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Evo Development at a standstill?

Well it seems not a lot is going on in the development thread anymore. Not much really new. It'll prob pick up after GB officially releases or another HC SDK is released with more features.

The odd thing is that I was thinking the exact opposite. A while back I was on warm rls2 and not finding the desire to flash. Now im flashing 3 times a week. Between the cm7 gingerbread combo, miuiu, elite, warm, ava, milk froyo, the desire hd rims, liquid... its a party.

I would have to agree with the above post... Despite the fact that I stick to CM7, when I browse the development section there are numerous updated roms. I was actually taking back by the comment that you feel there is a "standstill". If you only stick to sense then there not be much going on, But in the ASOP world there is plenty going on.

wrapkgb said:
I would have to agree with the above post... Despite the fact that I stick to CM7, when I browse the development section there are numerous updated roms. I was actually taking back by the comment that you feel there is a "standstill". If you only stick to sense then there not be much going on, But in the ASOP world there is plenty going on.
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Agreed. I flash almost every nightly on cm7. Development is still happening.
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kenfly said:
Well it seems not a lot is going on in the development thread anymore. Not much really new. It'll prob pick up after GB officially releases or another HC SDK is released with more features.
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as others have stated, CM7 GB nightlies, new MIUI, Wimax on CM, Full HDMI out port, JsChiSurf porting all kinds of stuff from CM into Sense, and the list could go on forever...
The sense based ROMs won't be updated until the next OTA/leak from HTC, however, there is a lot going on for the EVO.
I just got WiMax so I haven't tried out CM7 or the AOSP WiMax beta, once they are stable, I might make the AOSP jump permanetly.
Very exciting times

if this is a standstill....how would you describe the epic development ???

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this thread is beyond rediculous

I agree with the above post.

Yeah, what exactly was this thread supposed to accomplish??

it has to do with acceleration, the dev thread has been accelerating so fast that it has reached a peak, there is tons of new so it's not that it's stale but rather theres not even more new stuff.
months ago there was a new thing every day, then there were 2, then 3, now theres still 3 new everyday but no 4 new or 5 new

Between the development standstill and the Gingerbread setback, it's amazing people are still hanging around here.

I would not say stand still, things are pretty much refined nowadays. as for CM7 we are waiting for an offical update for the nexus one then that will be become stable and have good drivers written for it.
Standstill no,

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Between the development standstill and the Gingerbread setback, it's amazing people are still hanging around here.
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where else would we go except to the nexus s. only phone with 2.3,

I will welcome the day when development is actually at a standstill, because most likely it'll be when the evo is close enough to being "done"
I love tweaking my phone as much as the next nightly romfiend, but its nice when i can just use my device. I had a great time when i was using CM6.1.2 w/ wimax since that implementation was only on one build and so i couldn't flash nightlies. I am now having the same great time on CM7 wimax.
Its nice to just use my phone, and people can call me now and i won't be in recovery when they do, WOOT!

I too wish recovery had a dailer, I might actually use it as a phone instead of a small tablet with unlimited internet

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I too wish recovery had a dailer, I might actually use it as a phone instead of a small tablet with unlimited internet
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How significant are the nightly updates on CM? I just got a new replacement in today and I might consider trying it out (currently on Fresh on my current phone).
Call me crazy, but I feel a lot of the CM updates are stuff we've had with Sense a while back.

the nightlys you don't have to constantly update when a new one comes out, grab the newest and when you feel the urge to update then go for it, its mostly perfected

after summer i think development will slow down alot on the evo as it will be well over a year old. most including me will probably be on the next android device sprint offers.

fixxxer2008 said:
after summer i think development will slow down alot on the evo as it will be well over a year old. most including me will probably be on the next android device sprint offers.
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If sprint has a next device... :O
I probably will too.

[RANT] Epic phone not so epic

*RANT ALERT*
Ok. This makes me furious.
Cyanogenmod Hauwei Ascend
It's a 600 mhz processor. By a no-named manufacturer. WHAT THE H#*&??
Cyanogenmod can run on this android 2.1-flaunting pos and we can't have it? My bestfriends super crappy phone makes my phone look like crap because of the os. The Epic's got the hardware, but no software to match. Don't get me wrong, the devs here have worked MIRACLES on this phone. And the only thing holding me back from pawning whatever I can find for an evo is the amazing roms (frankenstein and anonymous, im looking at you) and the superbly friendly and miracle-working devs (Rodderik, ecooce, computerkid23, MysteryEmotionz, k0nane, chris41g, asdfghjkl, DRockstar, TexasEpic4G, qbking77, flimsy888, forgive me if I left you out).
Guess I'm just jealous that such a beast of a phone can't compare to such a pos of a phone.
*RANT OVER*

It shipped with AOSP android so it wasn't too much of a stretch to port Cyanogenmod onto it. One of the hardest parts of porting CM is getting an AOSP kernel that boots (part of what took the EPIC so long to reach where it is now).

I have CM7 on my Nook Color. It is nice but it's not a game changer, and stuff broke in some nightlies. Having working Netflix would be great but Epic screen is too small vs a tablet. ACS does it for me just fine, and whenever CM7, GB, AOSP makes its way to us it will make an already great phone better - but only that much.

Seriously? Even in stock form, the Epic still kicks ass. Tell me if CM can play ALL the codecs the Epic does? How about the performance of the camera? The Samsung camera is really pretty good. Can that phone play games made for the Tegra 2? I know the Epic can. CM would be great, but it's not the end all, be all. From a performance standpoint, CM is fast, but even it's missing some things that the Epic already has built in.

Oh trust me, I know. It's amazing even stock. But its like a car, you want the better parts for the best performance. And that amazing brand new engine won't fit in our car (idk alot about cars). It's also one of those "we do it because we can" things. It's a slap in the face to see it on these type of phones and not our epic.

At this point CM is very over-hyped. Would it be nice to have? Yes. Is it going to make the phone suck if we don't get it? No. The way people are making it out to be is like this will completely transform the phone.
I suspect when the Epic finally does get CM we will finally be done with the "where is CM?!" threads and flooded with the "this is it?!" threads.

It's not just Cyanogenmod. Its also MIUI and plain old AOSP. The epic is pretty amazing, but being able to say I can't run CM7 or MIUI makes me think twice about it actually being an evo-killer.

Personally, I will continue to run touchwiz roms even after cyanogen. Unless cm can make a serious enough difference in my battery stats to warrant removing tw and its features(which I find very useful).
cd's or tapes?

schnowdapowda said:
Personally, I will continue to run touchwiz roms even after cyanogen. Unless cm can make a serious enough difference in my battery stats to warrant removing tw and its features(which I find very useful).
cd's or tapes?
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Khemul said:
At this point CM is very over-hyped. Would it be nice to have? Yes. Is it going to make the phone suck if we don't get it? No. The way people are making it out to be is like this will completely transform the phone.
I suspect when the Epic finally does get CM we will finally be done with the "where is CM?!" threads and flooded with the "this is it?!" threads.
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Maybe CM7 isn't so different from what we use now but I just put MIUI on my sister's vibrant and believe me it's a BIG deal.
In a perfect world, I would have the newest official MIUI on my Epic with Wimax support both on my phone and actually available in my area. I hope some day to get to see a couple of those.
Official Gingerbread Kernel source needs to drop now.

HOW MANY OF YOU HAVE RAN CM7, because let me tell you I miss it greatly from my Evo, LOVE LOVE LOVE my Epic but seriously CM7 is where its at...Yes I like caps.

I'm intrigued by what I hear about CM7, but MIUI does not get my attention one bit. If I wanted my phone to look and act like an iPhone I probably would have bought an iPhone (and then promptly turned my man card in and spent the rest of my days settling for whatever the turtleneck told me was the best).
That being said, I don't care that these aren't available for the Epic. SRF is super fast and I haven't found any bugs to date. I get less FC's on my phone now than I did with the stock phone.

where to begin? cm is nice and having the option is nicer. but seriously its not some awe inspiring monolith of human achievement. the reason why cm7 looks so great on htc devices is because they need the speedup over sense.
as for miui, i too have taken great pleasure in bashing it, but recently i gave it a whirl and i have to say i am VERY impressed. the features present in that rom i hope someday make it into cm7. the customization you can do with such ease is amazing. the music app even blows away googles newest one.. (i mean cmon who doesnt like auto lyric lookups? ) contact management is a breeze and even syncs properly with facebook (something i cant get cm7 to do). alas the current version of miui lacks 4g and has a call bug where the call is muted (version 1.7.8) for the nexus s 4g. so im back to cm7 for now, til dreamsforgotten ports those lockscreen mods

shabbypenguin said:
where to begin? cm is nice and having the option is nicer. but seriously its not some awe inspiring monolith of human achievement.
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Yes, it is.

lol CM7 cant change the phone THAT much.

Decad3nce said:
Yes, it is.
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please, and what would you know about cm?

I'm not pressed for cm7, just a source code for 2.3.5 and we'd be rocking it
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Yes, it is.
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please, and what would you know about cm?
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Yeah I know right, that guys a n00b.
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I think there's more to life than software and operating systems. I'm very satisfied with what the devs have come up with for the Epic. The phone is fast, user-friendly, and easy on the battery. My buddy, who has an Evo, wishes he had my camera and super AMOLED. We're both stormchasers and are too cheap to buy real cameras. Mine takes noticeably better pictures on all settings. I guess it depends on what is important to you.

these types of posts make me furious.
These devs aren't going to waste their time building from scratch what they'll be able to piece together with a source release.
CyanogenMod is great and all, but try some other roms before you get all crazy angry. Do some research!
I am running my epic with SyndicateRomFrozen and the Genocide Kernel. I'm getting quadrant scores through the roof, and my Epic is a dream phone now.
CM7 will get to us. Until then, do something. Research. Flash. Experiment. Stop flaming start being proactive.

My display, camera, and audio quality trump anything that CM7 or MIUI brings that would make me want to switch to another Sprint phone right now.

Is Evo 4g on its last breath?

With less and less devs working on the Evo 4G nowadays, I ask, is Evo 4G officially being forced to retire? I myself even went to check on upgrading to the 3VO. It's no fun without any new Roms to play with. Being a flashoholic, I'm suffering from withdrawal, and it's hard to deal with.

What exactly leads you to say that devs are no longer supporting the EVO 4G? The development forum seems as hopping as ever to me.

MaxCarnage said:
What exactly leads you to say that devs are no longer supporting the EVO 4G? The development forum seems as hopping as ever to me.
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Check out the latest updates. I've seen only two in the last few days. Look at the 3D forum, it's on fire.

JKDLBC said:
Check out the latest updates. I've seen only two in the last few days. Look at the 3D forum, it's on fire.
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Newer devices are going to have more support than older.
However, it's also true that the source code for Gingerbread for the Evo was only released a few days ago.

This Guy must have missed the development thread....
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I don’t know, it looks like we shall be set free, in good time but in a "registered" kind of way. At least that is what I am getting from 3D forums and the f+Bk page.

I could be wrong about all of this, but to me, the writing is on the wall. I really feel the demise of EVO 4G, as far as development standpoint. The latest talks is that most of the devs are jumping ship. I mean, can you really blame them. Great phone that has been improved. I've even seen what could be called a collection plates to get certain devs 3VOs. No disrespect to anyone doing. Hard/good work should not go without its just reward.

I think there just isn't anything new really other then kernels no new OS atm to play we have sense up to 3.0 and why port much much more? I do see improvments in each ROM though just slower EVO 3d is hoping cause they don't have anything
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ckoadiyn said:
I think there just isn't anything new really other then kernels no new OS atm to play we have sense up to 3.0 and why port much much more? I do see improvments in each ROM though just slower EVO 3d is hoping cause they don't have anything
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Yeah, it is important to understand that the big rush in the beginning is:
1) Get root
2) Wait for Source code
3) Fix **** ups from the manufacturer
4) Make modifications [possibly from other devices] to improve Android overall.
It's been over a year, all that's been done. While improvements are still coming constantly...the bulk of that work for the Evo is, well, done.

mattykinsx said:
Yeah, it is important to understand that the big rush in the beginning is:
1) Get root
2) Wait for Source code
3) Fix **** ups from the manufacturer
4) Make modifications [possibly from other devices] to improve Android overall.
It's been over a year, all that's been done. While improvements are still coming constantly...the bulk of that work for the Evo is, well, done.
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I have to agree here. I think a lot of people have gotten into the habit of changing ROMs on a way too frequent basis, to the point where they're switching weekly with 4-6 Nandroid backups of different ROMs so they can jump around as much as they want.
That list above is the true goal of Android development. If I find a good ROM, and there's relatively little bugs (especially less than stock), looks great, gives me something flashy (like Sense 3.0) I can be satisfied for months at a time, not even updating most of that time.
Unless there is something that has yet to be perfected on the EVO, development could halt right now and it wouldn't hurt what we already have. Look at all the things that's been done for the EVO since release:
Wireless N
HDMI-to-TV mirroring
Hacked hotspot
Notification bar power controls
4G on CM7
Hacked Hulu (which is now pointless, but eh)
...and more I just can't remember right now because I haven't had my morning coffee yet. The EVO has actually evolved (no pun intended) over the last year and 2 months, and like any piece of hardware, we're going to reach the limits. But the EVO has shaped the future of Android forever, and that's what we need to remember most.
Our community has created some of the most amazing pieces of code Android has ever seen, and that will only get better with the 3D. Time to move on...if I had the money, I'd get the 3D too, but that's just because I can't root my replacement EVO...

mattykinsx said:
Yeah, it is important to understand that the big rush in the beginning is:
1) Get root
2) Wait for Source code
3) Fix **** ups from the manufacturer
4) Make modifications [possibly from other devices] to improve Android overall.
It's been over a year, all that's been done. While improvements are still coming constantly...the bulk of that work for the Evo is, well, done.
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That is my point. We have reached the pinnacle, when it comes to development for the EVO. As a dev, why wouldn't you feel it's time to move on? Their work here is done. The writing is on the wall guys. The most they can do is make minor mods here. The next challenge is 3VO or some other device. I will not mention those other devices by name, I am EVO.

I think there's a huge difference between "end of dev cycle" and "device is on last breath".
Is your evo having any problems running anything? Are you not on the latest android 2.3.5?
CM still has nightlies, miui still has weeklies, only thing really slower is sense and the only one to blame there is htc (and possibly yourself for wasting your time with sense).
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Justin.G11 said:
I think there's a huge difference between "end of dev cycle" and "device is on last breath".
Is your evo having any problems running anything? Are you not on the latest android 2.3.5?
CM still has nightlies, miui still has weeklies, only thing really slower is sense and the only one to blame there is htc (and possibly yourself for wasting your time with sense).
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I completely agree here. My EVO is doing everything I could possibly want! We "may" be seeing the end of OS development for this phone, but now their concentrating on kernels now that the source has been out for a couple of weeks.

I think saying last breath is alittle strong. As far as anything else that can be developed rom-wise maybe. This is still going to be a serviceable phone for quite some time. If you are a person with flash issues you might have a problem. To me once kernels get perfected you shouldn't have to flash like a maniac anyway. Honestly I think the only other thing to perfect now is hdmi and personally I could care less but that's just me. I'm going 3d later this month and the Mrs gets my OG EVO. For her this will be a beast of a phone. Writing on the wall yes, last breath, far from it.
Peace

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I think saying last breath is alittle strong. As far as anything else that can be developed rom-wise maybe. This is still going to be a serviceable phone for quite some time. If you are a person with flash issues you might have a problem. To me once kernels get perfected you shouldn't have to flash like a maniac anyway. Honestly I think the only other thing to perfect now is hdmi and personally I could care less but that's just me. I'm going 3d later this month and the Mrs gets my OG EVO. For her this will be a beast of a phone. Writing on the wall yes, last breath, far from it.
Peace
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I do not believe this statement is too strong at all. Technology moves at a very rapid pace. Once something hits the shelves it's already old technology. Lets take the iPad (yes, I dare to mention this) for example. This was once a revolutionary product, except now, we have the Tablet, the Eee Pad, the iPad2, etc. You yourself even call it by the name OG EVO, which usually signifies something old. So yes, SIR, I do dare say that the EVO is on its last breath.
P.S Trade-in your EVO for a $125 credit toward the 3VO

I guess we look at last breath differently. To me last breath means no more support. Apps no longer supported etc. But we are different people and view things differently.
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ATRIX forums dead lately

Has anyone else noticed that the ATRIX forums have been extremely dead lately? The development section mostly, nothing new has been coming out and things haven't been being updated in a while. are all the devastating focusing on getting cm7 fully functional or has everyone just disappeared?
Unlocked oc'd alien atrix

I think its most devs are working on cm7, but still satisfied with the development here
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College Football!!!!

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College Football!!!!
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Great point...GO NOLES!!!!
~Sent from My Unlocked, Rooted, Shady Blued, and Pi-Crusted 1.3gHz Atrix 4G~

No new ROMs for weeks, maybe over a month... webtop2sd project abandoned... aside from the CM7's prebetas and faux's OC, it's like everyone has moved on to brighter shores, like photon or bionic...

It's all over. Dead before it even got started. The developers have abandoned us.
Now we'll never be like one of the more "alive" forums, like the Captivate or the Inspire forums...we'll never have a bunch of the same ROM's that are just themed differently.

TheBassman369 said:
It's all over. Dead before it even got started. The developers have abandoned us.
Now we'll never be like one of the more "alive" forums, like the Captivate or the Inspire forums...we'll never have a bunch of the same ROM's that are just themed differently.
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Maybe I should consider selling my atrix, and wait to see what new phones will released.... lol na I love my atrix
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Not sure what y'all are expecting ... a rom every week?
Cm7 prebeta 3 dropped only a few weeks ago. Summers over soon, schools starting ... plus NO LOCKOUT BABY.
ROMS are gonna blow up when cm7 hits rc
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Love my Atrix (first Android phone), but once the Nexus Prime is released... why wouldn't you jump ship?? "Pure" Google Android experience (no bloat, MOTOBLUR, etc), grantueed "official" CM7 support, and top rated specs to boot... sorry, but I can't wait till October. Guess I can still my ATRIX to test dev builds and help out around here too
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The Atrix has 3 major waves.
The first was unlocking the bootloader, and that opened a whole set of new ROMS and excitement.
The second is for the long awaited CM7, and what it will bring to the table.
The final major wave will be Ice Cream Sandwich. Even if ICS never becomes "official", there will be many ROMS based upon it.
Still plenty of life and goodness coming down the road...
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The days of rapid development for one device are over. Custom ROMs used to add features you couldn't get anywhere else but the gap is closing. Android is becoming a mature OS. Pick your hardware and enjoy.

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Love my Atrix (first Android phone), but once the Nexus Prime is released... why wouldn't you jump ship?? "Pure" Google Android experience (no bloat, MOTOBLUR, etc), grantueed "official" CM7 support, and top rated specs to boot... sorry, but I can't wait till October. Guess I can still my ATRIX to test dev builds and help out around here too
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i'm sorry.... but that typo really made me cringe for the English languages sake....
And i'm not sure what you mean by "guaranteed "official" CM7 support". Last i checked, the Atrix has "official" CM7 support.... as much as you can call support for a modded ROM "official".

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i'm sorry.... but that typo really made me cringe for the English languages sake....
And i'm not sure what you mean by "guaranteed "official" CM7 support". Last i checked, the Atrix has "official" CM7 support.... as much as you can call support for a modded ROM "official".
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Yeah so much for the spell check; guess I have to get some what close
And by official CM7, I mean a build specifically for the prime, its hardware, etc. form the CM7 team themselves… not to knock the Atrix Dev teams release thus far, which I believe to be a wonderful effort.
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Swiftks said:
Love my Atrix (first Android phone), but once the Nexus Prime is released... why wouldn't you jump ship?? "Pure" Google Android experience (no bloat, MOTOBLUR, etc), grantueed "official" CM7 support, and top rated specs to boot... sorry, but I can't wait till October. Guess I can still my ATRIX to test dev builds and help out around here too
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Er, because I don't want to spend 100s of dollars on something of comparable spec, and I'm v happy with Atrix battery, form factor, screen res and voice quality/speaker quality?
Alien, Aura etc. is pretty much debloated, CM7 or further revisions of above will complete the picture.

They're playing coy but CM has hit its peak. We'll get it here, but beyond this generation of phones I wouldn't expect much.

CM can't really "hit their peak" as the very base they use for their releases, is virtually a constant beta test(...android). That being said, I don't see any reason why CM can peak, when new features are and will continue to be pushed into Android daily. Honeycomb was mainly a release to make Android viable to tablets, so in the phone scene, CM skipped a gen as there are no phones(to my knowledge) that run Android 3.0. The CM team can't hit their peak until Google hits their peak.
With that being said, it's true that the forums are quiet lately, but aside from a few very difficult features, we don't really have any gripes, do we? CM is the end of any androids open development in my opinion anyway, after that...the only next best thing is...a higher version CM.

I think everyone is just itching for something to flash.
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I simply mean their relevance has already crested. CM breathed new life into old hardware and extra features onto others to build their reputation but it seems Google and OEMs gave begun integrating many of CMs differentiatiors. Eventually it just can't have the impact it used to. That doesn't make it irrelevant, just less of a prime factor in purchasing decisions.
Don't get me wrong, I've been a CM faithful since before the Droid blew up Android.. but the reasons listed above combined with the extra projects they are all getting into seem to form an obvious case for lowered expectations.

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I think everyone is just itching for something to flash.
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Lol I know I am
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There is though. CM is Android without the manufacturers mess of a launcher. Google has definitely integrated lots of CM's contributions to Android, but those can be pretty hard to see if the launcher in question is a big piece of crap..like Motoblur.
Honestly, I find it hard to see why people are upset with things in their current form. Motorola is going to be adding Webtop into all of it's higher end handsets, and webtop is pretty awesome. It's functions like that, that make it worth jumping from a bustling community like the Captivate, to the dead Atrix community, like I did. I don't miss my Captivate at all. I just miss Cyanogenmod.

NS4G Noob here!

Coming from an EVO, it seems like the development of ROMs is a ghost town. I'm used to there being 15+ roms that are currently being developed at a time.
So, I decided to give the NS4G a try. Where do I get started? Which are the most stable JB/ICS builds? What ROMs are still active? Also, what's the word on the official JB OTA?(Kinda why I thought I'd try out the NS4G)

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Coming from an EVO, it seems like the development of ROMs is a ghost town. I'm used to there being 15+ roms that are currently being developed at a time.
So, I decided to give the NS4G a try. Where do I get started? Which are the most stable JB/ICS builds? What ROMs are still active? Also, what's the word on the official JB OTA?(Kinda why I thought I'd try out the NS4G)
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Welcome ... still lots going on here. You'll need to do some reading and searching to catch up a bit, but this will get you started. Most of the Jelly Bean development is being done with the gsm devices, because Sprint hasn't released ns4g stuff. With that said, an alpha version of cm10 is in the general forum. ICS is alive and well ... quite a bit to choose from. Since you like to try out different roms, jump in ... plenty of help available.

I think this being an actual google device, we Evo users have a different meaning of "alpha" lol. Alpha meant no camera, maybe no data, maybe no wifi, SOMETHING big isn't working yet. But the CM10 thread says everything works...Is that really the case? Also, where can I find the quickest root method?

qccoles said:
I think this being an actual google device, we Evo users have a different meaning of "alpha" lol. Alpha meant no camera, maybe no data, maybe no wifi, SOMETHING big isn't working yet. But the CM10 thread says everything works...Is that really the case? Also, where can I find the quickest root method?
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I came from the Evo world as well, and understand that people's opinions vary when it comes to definitions. The current cm10 work has all the major components functional ... but there are still issues to be worked out. You can use it as your daily driver, but expect some hiccups along the way. In my opinion, JB is a wonderful step forward in the android progression, and I'm really looking forward to everything being released for our Sprint versions.
edit: there is a giant sticky roundup that will help you with most everything, including root questions ...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1623481

As far as ICS roms go, you have a few choices. Bugless Beast by Peter Alfonso is a mostly stock, very stable ROM with a few small modifications.
AOKP is my personal choice for the most customized experience. Included is a theme chooser, statusbar and lockscreen weather widgets and much more.
Good luck and happy romming!
Congrats on your Nexus purchase!
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Now that binaries are out, your gonna see A LOT of traffic in the development forums
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Welcome to the club!
I have a NS4G as well and I've toyed around with a couple of JB ROMs and the best can be found in this forum (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1792218&page=75) but I agree with everyone above, just snoop around the pages and you'll find stuff...and I haven't heard anything about OTAs yet, but the CDMA kids are left way behind GSM devices so don't have high hopes -_-

Welcome! I had an Evo too. CM10 in the General Forum is running great. While your at it, go get your free $10 from Google Wallet and add any major credit/debit card you want.
Do you still have the Evo? If so use the NS4G for a month then fire up the Evo. You will like the size of the Evo but miss the screen on the NS4G. :thumbup:

Nick N said:
Welcome! I had an Evo too. CM10 in the General Forum is running great. While your at it, go get your free $10 from Google Wallet and add any major credit/debit card you want.
Do you still have the Evo? If so use the NS4G for a month then fire up the Evo. You will like the size of the Evo but miss the screen on the NS4G. :thumbup:
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Fully functional JB and the SAMOLED screen are the main reasons i'd use it. Here in ohio, I haven't seen the pads at registers for NFC. Maybe it's in the more popular cities.

I've had my nexus for over a year right now I have active backups for bugless beast and slim ics for stock and provision, aokp, and cm10 for custom options
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Nick N said:
Welcome! I had an Evo too. CM10 in the General Forum is running great. While your at it, go get your free $10 from Google Wallet and add any major credit/debit card you want.
Do you still have the Evo? If so use the NS4G for a month then fire up the Evo. You will like the size of the Evo but miss the screen on the NS4G. :thumbup:
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Well, I don't miss my EVO at all yet lol.
The only things I would take from my evo is the screen size, dual led flash, the HUGE development community, and....that's about it lol.
I still have the EVO on standby just in case I get phone sick
My NS4G is running MORE than fully functional CM10, stable at 1.4GHz(my evo could barely stand at 1.1), lag isn't a factor, 16GB of internal, and the screen...the screen...I'm in love.

Rom recommendations
Once you're all squared away and rooted, I have to say I loved the new Paranoid Android for JB and SlimICS. Overall it depends how you want to use your phone, if you care more about a custom UI with a tablet, or maxed out performance through Slim. I actually just went from JB back to ICS to test out which I'm happier with, and personally I love having the freedom to run super memory hog fancy launcher replacements and still have a zippy phone with the SlimICS rom. They should be coming out with jelly bean soon though