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Evo Development at a standstill?

Well it seems not a lot is going on in the development thread anymore. Not much really new. It'll prob pick up after GB officially releases or another HC SDK is released with more features.

The odd thing is that I was thinking the exact opposite. A while back I was on warm rls2 and not finding the desire to flash. Now im flashing 3 times a week. Between the cm7 gingerbread combo, miuiu, elite, warm, ava, milk froyo, the desire hd rims, liquid... its a party.

I would have to agree with the above post... Despite the fact that I stick to CM7, when I browse the development section there are numerous updated roms. I was actually taking back by the comment that you feel there is a "standstill". If you only stick to sense then there not be much going on, But in the ASOP world there is plenty going on.

wrapkgb said:
I would have to agree with the above post... Despite the fact that I stick to CM7, when I browse the development section there are numerous updated roms. I was actually taking back by the comment that you feel there is a "standstill". If you only stick to sense then there not be much going on, But in the ASOP world there is plenty going on.
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Agreed. I flash almost every nightly on cm7. Development is still happening.
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kenfly said:
Well it seems not a lot is going on in the development thread anymore. Not much really new. It'll prob pick up after GB officially releases or another HC SDK is released with more features.
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as others have stated, CM7 GB nightlies, new MIUI, Wimax on CM, Full HDMI out port, JsChiSurf porting all kinds of stuff from CM into Sense, and the list could go on forever...
The sense based ROMs won't be updated until the next OTA/leak from HTC, however, there is a lot going on for the EVO.
I just got WiMax so I haven't tried out CM7 or the AOSP WiMax beta, once they are stable, I might make the AOSP jump permanetly.
Very exciting times

if this is a standstill....how would you describe the epic development ???

Non existant
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this thread is beyond rediculous

I agree with the above post.

Yeah, what exactly was this thread supposed to accomplish??

it has to do with acceleration, the dev thread has been accelerating so fast that it has reached a peak, there is tons of new so it's not that it's stale but rather theres not even more new stuff.
months ago there was a new thing every day, then there were 2, then 3, now theres still 3 new everyday but no 4 new or 5 new

Between the development standstill and the Gingerbread setback, it's amazing people are still hanging around here.

I would not say stand still, things are pretty much refined nowadays. as for CM7 we are waiting for an offical update for the nexus one then that will be become stable and have good drivers written for it.
Standstill no,

conqu1stador said:
Between the development standstill and the Gingerbread setback, it's amazing people are still hanging around here.
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where else would we go except to the nexus s. only phone with 2.3,

I will welcome the day when development is actually at a standstill, because most likely it'll be when the evo is close enough to being "done"
I love tweaking my phone as much as the next nightly romfiend, but its nice when i can just use my device. I had a great time when i was using CM6.1.2 w/ wimax since that implementation was only on one build and so i couldn't flash nightlies. I am now having the same great time on CM7 wimax.
Its nice to just use my phone, and people can call me now and i won't be in recovery when they do, WOOT!

I too wish recovery had a dailer, I might actually use it as a phone instead of a small tablet with unlimited internet

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I too wish recovery had a dailer, I might actually use it as a phone instead of a small tablet with unlimited internet
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How significant are the nightly updates on CM? I just got a new replacement in today and I might consider trying it out (currently on Fresh on my current phone).
Call me crazy, but I feel a lot of the CM updates are stuff we've had with Sense a while back.

the nightlys you don't have to constantly update when a new one comes out, grab the newest and when you feel the urge to update then go for it, its mostly perfected

after summer i think development will slow down alot on the evo as it will be well over a year old. most including me will probably be on the next android device sprint offers.

fixxxer2008 said:
after summer i think development will slow down alot on the evo as it will be well over a year old. most including me will probably be on the next android device sprint offers.
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If sprint has a next device... :O
I probably will too.

[Q] Looking for NS4G info

Currently on an EVO 4g trying to decide if I want the Evo 3d, Moto Photon, NS4G, or stay on my Evo 4g and wait to see if the next Nexus comes in the upcoming months to Sprint.
My question to the members here, what is the NS4G community base like? Man NS4g users and devs out there? My hesitation is that the phone may have been passed up by many for the upcoming "super phones" resulting in less of a community = less community dev work for the device.
Thank you

For the nexus s 4 g we got miui and cm7. There are also some cm7/aosp based roms as well. We also got Trinity kernel and also netarchy. Honestly we got all the big names it just may seem like we have a little amount of roms. As for if you should get it, it's all up to you. I for one will only use a nexus product, I'm too attached to aosp to go use sense or touchwiz. But I heard the sgs2 might be coming out soon, that device is wow.
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Seems like there is a great community here. If you coming from a EVO 4g you might want to stick with another phone like EVO 3D. The Nexus S 4G comes very bland. However you can customize it very easy. You have to be better than a advanced user to stick the NEXUS S 4G. As far as something like touchwiz, there is a mod.. Touchwiz needs alot of work to be done to have it completely ported over. People in this community seem more concerned with other things and have a bad taste for something like touchwiz.
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Currently on an EVO 4g trying to decide if I want the Evo 3d, Moto Photon, NS4G, or stay on my Evo 4g and wait to see if the next Nexus comes in the upcoming months to Sprint.
My question to the members here, what is the NS4G community base like? Man NS4g users and devs out there? My hesitation is that the phone may have been passed up by many for the upcoming "super phones" resulting in less of a community = less community dev work for the device.
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Thank you for the replies, they have helped but still not sure which way I am going to go.
Been looking at the benchmarks and see they are fairly even, some say the adreno is better, others say the 540 is better.
I had horrible luck with CM7 on my original Evo, while other AOSP roms ran like a dream. Leads me to wonder how AOSP will be on the 3d. But with Ice cream comes dual core support and I would assume the 3d at that point would pull ahead of the NS4g in performance, making it more future proof for me over the next 2 years.
Anyways, thank you for the responses.

Is the miui bugfree for the nexus s 4g yet? Ive still yet to root my phone lol, been waiting on miui to be stable...
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fraspas said:
Is the miui bugfree for the nexus s 4g yet? Ive still yet to root my phone lol, been waiting on miui to be stable...
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MIUI, Salvage Mod, Ultimate Droid, and VaelPak AOSP preview were the most stable AOSP roms I ran on my Evo.
Now, each have their own issues, but they were stable and responsive. One thing that seems to be a mess across all of them is a less than stellar wifi signal compared to when running Sense, yet another thing that makes me worried about going with eh 3d, it's horribly annoying on the Evo 4g.
How "future proof" would you say the NS4G is? Will hardware acceleration keep the phone capable for another 2 years yet? I also want to check out the 3d screen in sunlight, huge geocacher and the Evo was terrible in sunlight.

Skitzi said:
MIUI, Salvage Mod, Ultimate Droid, and VaelPak AOSP preview were the most stable AOSP roms I ran on my Evo.
Now, each have their own issues, but they were stable and responsive. One thing that seems to be a mess across all of them is a less than stellar wifi signal compared to when running Sense, yet another thing that makes me worried about going with eh 3d, it's horribly annoying on the Evo 4g.
How "future proof" would you say the NS4G is? Will hardware acceleration keep the phone capable for another 2 years yet? I also want to check out the 3d screen in sunlight, huge geocacher and the Evo was terrible in sunlight.
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Can't speak for the Evo 3D but the NS4G is nothing short of fantastic in sunlight... YMMV though.
The NS4G will have more developer support most likely, performance isn't going to leave you hanging, however the Evo3D does win the specs war.
Future proof in what way? The hardware is going to be capable for years to come I imagine... software wise a Nexus phone is the definition of future proof. You will be getting updates directly from Google, likely for a very long time to come.
The Evo3D has more bells and whistles, while the NS is more of a enthusiasts phone for those that want pure Android, the latest updates, a large development scene, etc. Gotta pick your poison from there.

And honastly there alot orf "CUSTOM" sense roms for the evo that have the alot of the same tweaks with just different themes already mixed in. But to not to discredit anyone i cant make hide or hair of software
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ATRIX forums dead lately

Has anyone else noticed that the ATRIX forums have been extremely dead lately? The development section mostly, nothing new has been coming out and things haven't been being updated in a while. are all the devastating focusing on getting cm7 fully functional or has everyone just disappeared?
Unlocked oc'd alien atrix

I think its most devs are working on cm7, but still satisfied with the development here
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College Football!!!!

Swiftks said:
College Football!!!!
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Great point...GO NOLES!!!!
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No new ROMs for weeks, maybe over a month... webtop2sd project abandoned... aside from the CM7's prebetas and faux's OC, it's like everyone has moved on to brighter shores, like photon or bionic...

It's all over. Dead before it even got started. The developers have abandoned us.
Now we'll never be like one of the more "alive" forums, like the Captivate or the Inspire forums...we'll never have a bunch of the same ROM's that are just themed differently.

TheBassman369 said:
It's all over. Dead before it even got started. The developers have abandoned us.
Now we'll never be like one of the more "alive" forums, like the Captivate or the Inspire forums...we'll never have a bunch of the same ROM's that are just themed differently.
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Maybe I should consider selling my atrix, and wait to see what new phones will released.... lol na I love my atrix
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Not sure what y'all are expecting ... a rom every week?
Cm7 prebeta 3 dropped only a few weeks ago. Summers over soon, schools starting ... plus NO LOCKOUT BABY.
ROMS are gonna blow up when cm7 hits rc
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Love my Atrix (first Android phone), but once the Nexus Prime is released... why wouldn't you jump ship?? "Pure" Google Android experience (no bloat, MOTOBLUR, etc), grantueed "official" CM7 support, and top rated specs to boot... sorry, but I can't wait till October. Guess I can still my ATRIX to test dev builds and help out around here too
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The Atrix has 3 major waves.
The first was unlocking the bootloader, and that opened a whole set of new ROMS and excitement.
The second is for the long awaited CM7, and what it will bring to the table.
The final major wave will be Ice Cream Sandwich. Even if ICS never becomes "official", there will be many ROMS based upon it.
Still plenty of life and goodness coming down the road...
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The days of rapid development for one device are over. Custom ROMs used to add features you couldn't get anywhere else but the gap is closing. Android is becoming a mature OS. Pick your hardware and enjoy.

Swiftks said:
Love my Atrix (first Android phone), but once the Nexus Prime is released... why wouldn't you jump ship?? "Pure" Google Android experience (no bloat, MOTOBLUR, etc), grantueed "official" CM7 support, and top rated specs to boot... sorry, but I can't wait till October. Guess I can still my ATRIX to test dev builds and help out around here too
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i'm sorry.... but that typo really made me cringe for the English languages sake....
And i'm not sure what you mean by "guaranteed "official" CM7 support". Last i checked, the Atrix has "official" CM7 support.... as much as you can call support for a modded ROM "official".

elementaldragon said:
i'm sorry.... but that typo really made me cringe for the English languages sake....
And i'm not sure what you mean by "guaranteed "official" CM7 support". Last i checked, the Atrix has "official" CM7 support.... as much as you can call support for a modded ROM "official".
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Yeah so much for the spell check; guess I have to get some what close
And by official CM7, I mean a build specifically for the prime, its hardware, etc. form the CM7 team themselves… not to knock the Atrix Dev teams release thus far, which I believe to be a wonderful effort.
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Swiftks said:
Love my Atrix (first Android phone), but once the Nexus Prime is released... why wouldn't you jump ship?? "Pure" Google Android experience (no bloat, MOTOBLUR, etc), grantueed "official" CM7 support, and top rated specs to boot... sorry, but I can't wait till October. Guess I can still my ATRIX to test dev builds and help out around here too
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Er, because I don't want to spend 100s of dollars on something of comparable spec, and I'm v happy with Atrix battery, form factor, screen res and voice quality/speaker quality?
Alien, Aura etc. is pretty much debloated, CM7 or further revisions of above will complete the picture.

They're playing coy but CM has hit its peak. We'll get it here, but beyond this generation of phones I wouldn't expect much.

CM can't really "hit their peak" as the very base they use for their releases, is virtually a constant beta test(...android). That being said, I don't see any reason why CM can peak, when new features are and will continue to be pushed into Android daily. Honeycomb was mainly a release to make Android viable to tablets, so in the phone scene, CM skipped a gen as there are no phones(to my knowledge) that run Android 3.0. The CM team can't hit their peak until Google hits their peak.
With that being said, it's true that the forums are quiet lately, but aside from a few very difficult features, we don't really have any gripes, do we? CM is the end of any androids open development in my opinion anyway, after that...the only next best thing is...a higher version CM.

I think everyone is just itching for something to flash.
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I simply mean their relevance has already crested. CM breathed new life into old hardware and extra features onto others to build their reputation but it seems Google and OEMs gave begun integrating many of CMs differentiatiors. Eventually it just can't have the impact it used to. That doesn't make it irrelevant, just less of a prime factor in purchasing decisions.
Don't get me wrong, I've been a CM faithful since before the Droid blew up Android.. but the reasons listed above combined with the extra projects they are all getting into seem to form an obvious case for lowered expectations.

darkamikaze said:
I think everyone is just itching for something to flash.
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Lol I know I am
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There is though. CM is Android without the manufacturers mess of a launcher. Google has definitely integrated lots of CM's contributions to Android, but those can be pretty hard to see if the launcher in question is a big piece of crap..like Motoblur.
Honestly, I find it hard to see why people are upset with things in their current form. Motorola is going to be adding Webtop into all of it's higher end handsets, and webtop is pretty awesome. It's functions like that, that make it worth jumping from a bustling community like the Captivate, to the dead Atrix community, like I did. I don't miss my Captivate at all. I just miss Cyanogenmod.

ICS vs Gingerbread

Like many others, I jumped on the train to try out all these ICS roms. I have the Nexus S 4G, so I am more limited, but still.
So far, they are really impressive, all being built from source. Lots of people are saying they are super smooth and responsive.
So I tired out AOSP's build, Kwiboo's, Drew Garens, and some of the Kangs. I used Franco's kernel, Matrix, and Glados to see what all worked best.
Results? Nothing compares to CM7 Gingerbread. When people say the ICS roms are quick, they aren't compared to CM7. Clicking on apps open instantly in CM7, settings menu is snappy, and moving between screens has extremely little lag. The ICS roms all had issues of randomly slowing down, but thats almost no existent in CM7. The worst part was the battery life. I don't know if I wasn't doing things correctly, but with minimal use I was draining 8-9% per hour. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/27361088/batterylife.png
So I went back to CM7 to see if it was just my phone, or my kernel. I put on Matrix 11.5, and got all set up. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/27361088/batterylife2.png
In this picture I was at 76% battery life as well. As you can see, thats MUCH better life.
My question is, has anyone else experienced what I have? I COMPLETELY understand that the ROM's are not perfect, I am not worried about that. I just hear all these AMAZING things about these ICS roms, but I personally don't see it. Just looking for some discussion here, and some other peoples comparisons between Gingerbread and ICS. Thanks to all the devs out there, you guys are great!

Its a difference between a rom built from source without components from a actually device ota. The performance of ICS roms will take big turn for the better when devs have an official nexus s ota to work with.
If you want the quickest gingerbread experience try Pete's GPA19 bugless beast out.
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Perhaps most of us when saying it's quick and responsive, are not trying to make a battle over gingerbread roms......
Perhaps when the term alpha is used and the ROM runs really well it gets us excited for what's down the pipe line.
When I tell people the ics runs smooth on my nexus I'm commenting on how well it runs from the little amount of time that has been spent so far with out pre supplied drivers and kernel. And is described from the Dev as being buggy
Not everything is commented on being nice is not to be precieved as something else is bad.
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Of all the ICS roms I've tried, I give the best performance to aosp. Having said that, they're all still not as fast as GB (Oxygen, my preferred). Played with ICS for a few days, did a nandroid backup and went back to Oxygen.
I understand that the devs are working with what they've got but I'm not satisfied with the current iterations as a daily driver. Battery life is not the best, slow transistions sometimes...performance generally is not what I like. It was fun to play with though.
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It is obvious that GB is still faster, it is based on the OTA and it is here for like one year, devs had time to make it mature. ICS is on the beginning, and imo is running very well at this moment. I have installed CM9 alpha 11 with franco´s kernel and it is quite fast and with the same battery life than I was having with GB.

My ICS is running as fast as I need it for the most part.
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Please don't be stupid.
The Gingerbread ROM you are talking about are 1 year old and have been optimized by many ways!
ICS is just a few weeks old and as only be officially ported to one device (Galaxy Nexus)
Do you remember one year ago, the crappy gingerbread ROM we had?

profete162 said:
Please don't be stupid.
The Gingerbread ROM you are talking about are 1 year old and have been optimized by many ways!
ICS is just a few weeks old and as only be officially ported to one device (Galaxy Nexus)
Do you remember one year ago, the crappy gingerbread ROM we had?
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I understand it has been optimized, I am not saying it hasn't.
My point is that people are saying the ICS ROMS are "super fast" "no issues!." I would just like to find out how relative Gingerbread is to ICS. When I say that ICS is fast, I would compare it to Gingerbread fast, which is not the same at all.

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Its a difference between a rom built from source without components from a actually device ota. The performance of ICS roms will take big turn for the better when devs have an official nexus s ota to work with.
If you want the quickest gingerbread experience try Pete's GPA19 bugless beast out.
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Alright, I guess I don't understand the actual component side of it. I thought that source was decently close to what a final build would be like (besides drivers and stability of course).
Thanks for the suggestion.

When we get the OTA for the nexus s 3g & 4g and Devs get the actual kernel and drivers etc designed for our device we will see a major difference.
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I understand it has been optimized, I am not saying it hasn't.
My point is that people are saying the ICS ROMS are "super fast" "no issues!." I would just like to find out how relative Gingerbread is to ICS. When I say that ICS is fast, I would compare it to Gingerbread fast, which is not the same at all.
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then dont use other people may like the progress so far and comment on it threads related to the ROM. Not creating a thread to say other people are wrong comes off ignorant. Do you have a lot of participation trophies at home?
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BrianDigital said:
then dont use other people may like the progress so far and comment on it threads related to the ROM. Not creating a thread to say other people are wrong comes off ignorant. Do you have a lot of participation trophies at home?
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I never said anyone was wrong. Don't be so quick to be a douch.
I agree that there has been a lot of progress, but my point is - there is no relativity when people talk. They say its fast! What does that even mean? I'm not being ignorant, I am just wondering what other people say fast is.

For me it was the big turn it took from the SDK port. I tried that and it was slow and laggish and some components didn't work at all.
Then came along the first ICS version built from AOSP and that was already a massive performance increase compared to what we had.
After a few weeks, I call the latest releases 'fast', looking at the iterations it has made. ICS is running smooth-ish here now; no lags while flicking screen, minor lag when open some dialogs.
Lastly I think it helps the devs out a lot if they get feedback on whichever optimization script they put on their release to make it go a bit faster.
Greetz

I own my Nexus since four days now and I think that ICS ins a little bit faster than 3.3.6 Gingerbread. But I used only the Stock and prefer ICS now.
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thefangedkanga said:
I never said anyone was wrong. Don't be so quick to be a douch.
I agree that there has been a lot of progress, but my point is - there is no relativity when people talk. They say its fast! What does that even mean? I'm not being ignorant, I am just wondering what other people say fast is.
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oh so your just saying people that like the ICS roms and think they are fast are dead wrong. When I ran I tried it was fast and good battery life, I went back to gb cause of 4g and app compatablity. But your not being ignorant im sorry your telling me my opinion is wrong. Thank you for informing me what "my" opinions are
You must be new to this scene and hopefully you can learn from this. Not every comment on something that is positive is not meant to bash another thing. I can not even understand why if your not telling people they are wrong for forming their own opinion different from yours, that a thread needed to be created. Which even the topic title is flame bait

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oh so your just saying people that like the ICS roms and think they are fast are dead wrong. When I ran I tried it was fast and good battery life, I went back to gb cause of 4g and app compatablity. But your not being ignorant im sorry your telling me my opinion is wrong. Thank you for informing me what "my" opinions are
You must be new to this scene and hopefully you can learn from this. Not every comment on something that is positive is not meant to bash another thing. I can not even understand why if your not telling people they are wrong for forming their own opinion different from yours, that a thread needed to be created. Which even the topic title is flame bait
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Dude chill out.
I never said anyone is wrong. All I said is that the term fast is relative. I'm not here to bash anyone, or anything. I am just wondering what other peoples experiences are. Stop flaming because you have a different opinion. That's the whole point of this, to get other peoples OPINIONS. Relax.

Who's still disappointed by the keyboard? The response time is near perfect now. I just wish Google would implement some more settings and features, like custom auto corrections.

I used the stock keyboard for an entire day and it almost killed me, I hate it. Swiftkey X is miles ahead, I cant type in my phone without it.

You know what also bothers me? The fact that the letter "i" is not automatically capitalized in the middle of the sentence. For example, "Have i shown you my picture?" Why is the "i" not capped, Google?
Argh.

Yes, these ICS builds are no where close to the smoothness, snappiness, and fluidity of Gingerbread ROMs. I was hoping that when the official Ice Cream Sandwich OTA for the Nexus S was released this problem would be remedied. These AOSP builds have not been properly optimized and such to run perfectly on our devices, but for Alphas they are decent. Sadly not my cup of decent. They are annoyingly less quick than Gingerbread builds currently are.

Returning to the epic

After switching to a few other devices like the evo then the evo 3d and hating both of them I decided to reactivate my old epic. I plan on putting a JB rom onto it and using it until I decide what newer phone I want. (was thinking galaxy nexus) Anyhow I am looking forward to bringing my epic back to life with a new JB rom. I want to thank all the devs for their hard work and generosity. If anyone has any recommendations for a great rom please feel free.

themow said:
After switching to a few other devices like the evo then the evo 3d and hating both of them I decided to reactivate my old epic. I plan on putting a JB rom onto it and using it until I decide what newer phone I want. (was thinking galaxy nexus) Anyhow I am looking forward to bringing my epic back to life with a new JB rom. I want to thank all the devs for their hard work and generosity. If anyone has any recommendations for a great rom please feel free.
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not sure how long U been gone , but we've got a team of young guns who have been bringing us some nice goodies over the past month or so ..... try 'em all out and see which works best 4 U ... ( PACman / BakedBeans 9 / SlimBean / Xylon / JellyBeer / The Collective and our usual CM10 / AOKP / TPR and a couple of others , just go to the Development Threads )

themow said:
After switching to a few other devices like the evo then the evo 3d and hating both of them I decided to reactivate my old epic. I plan on putting a JB rom onto it and using it until I decide what newer phone I want. (was thinking galaxy nexus) Anyhow I am looking forward to bringing my epic back to life with a new JB rom. I want to thank all the devs for their hard work and generosity. If anyone has any recommendations for a great rom please feel free.
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Interesting. I still have my Epic 4G (activated on Page+). But for the last couple of years it took a back seat while I went thru (and still have) a Nexus s and a Nexus 4. I also got an older Droid Pro which I rooted etc. But, I kept playing with the Epic and I find that it does everything I need it to do. It is the correct size for me, it fits well in my hand (unlike the Nexus 4 which really is tooo big for me but great for web cruising). I don't know if I will get another Android device until my present ones are all used up. Of course I am a phone fanatic and have a collection of Blackberries that are awesome too. I have Miui and Marmite on both my Epic and Nexus S and my Epic is a lot smoother and seems to be real world speed faster than my Nexus S. The Epic 4G, although older, is still a good phone and there is lots of support on XDA for it. Good luck in your future choices.

The tw based jb roms are pretty good too. Smooth. Especially with the custom kernels being developed from source.
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Booted up my old Epic after upgrading to the S3 months ago.
It hardly seems like an old phone with new roms! I love it! Physical keyboard FTW!
The only problem is the battery life sucks, even with a E4GT battery.

I am currently running nexus aosp. Its snappy and fun and fully functional minus bluetooth and Pic texts. I may be switching soon to something with full functionality. What happened to the bug sections in the rom threads?

themow said:
I am currently running nexus aosp. Its snappy and fun and fully functional minus bluetooth and Pic texts. I may be switching soon to something with full functionality. What happened to the bug sections in the rom threads?
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I don't really know. Some threads have a bug section, some don't. Unjustified Dev doesn't have this phone, he just makes stuff for us and the Fascinate.
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I think we should start a petition for Samsung to make a new 4" Epic 4G II with a great physical keyboard (and the awesome hard buttons on the side)
If I crank my phone out to 1.4ghz (usually keep it at 1.1ghz as the battery life is noticeably better) then I hang right with my friend's S3 but I don't have to deal with the annoying virtual keyboard obstructing any screen EVER (unless I choose to use swype for some quick messages). Seriously, it could be the gamegripper giving the edge but no virtual solution will ever satisfy me for emualted gameplay to even a regular physical keyboard. Tactile feel >>>>>>>>haptic.
I wish they'd make an S4 mini with keyboard that was 4". The Relay would be an ok sidegrade but I'd like a higher resolution screen if possible (and to keep the hardware navigation buttons since I use them VERY often).
TLDR: IMHO there's no other phone out there I'd rather have then my Epic at this time (Sprint)