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Hey guys, just wanted to make this little post, as it will probably be my last on this forum.
Yesterday I traded my Vibrant for a Nexus One...
I just want to use this post to say goodbye to the Vibrant community. Since I no longer have a Vibrant, I won't be coming to this forum too often.
The phone was fantastic, and I really did love it. It performed flawlessly, and it was a true beauty. I just moved to the N1 because of the dev that's out there for it and the nice build of the phone. I wish I could have both.
I want to tip my hat off to all the developers that there are the this phone.
Eugene, Master, and Team Whiskey (that I can recall) really brought this phone to life, along with everybody else that contributes to this community.
Thank you all so much for being the ****ing brilliant group that you are, and hope to see you around elsewhere.
- nearblack
Im thinking of making the same trade. Nothing against the vibrant, just want to try something new.
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I would definitely advise you to do it.
The N1 really is a collectors item, and has some really great features.
The development for the N1 is unmatched and is guaranteed to get gingerbread.
How much space is there for apps? How is the N1's screen compared to the vibrant
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How much space is there for apps? How is the N1's screen compared to the vibrant
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That's the only thing that the Vibrant has over the N1. The screen is one of the best. The N1 is a better trade because of all the google support and rom support for the devs. It is, if not one of the most sought after Android phones out mainly because of the software support. I highly advise this trade.
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I just might have to do it. I have a trade lined up. An In box vibrant for an in box nexus.
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I just might have to do it. I have a trade lined up. An In box vibrant for an in box nexus.
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I recommend the trade unless you love the amoled display and can't live without it.
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I hope you'll grace us with at least one more post. After you've had the new phone for a week or so, I'd love to hear your impressions and a comparison to the Vibrant.
I too like the Nexus, but I'd never consider that trade. Doesn't the Vibrant have a superior cpu and gpu? I realize the Nexus is a great phone with loads of development, but unless the hardware is equivalent, I couldn't justify the trade-off of developement for lack of hardware.
The Vibrant may not be top priority for any future software updates, but the hardware is good enough to have nearly anything in the next 6 months ported to it.
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I too like the Nexus, but I'd never consider that trade. Doesn't the Vibrant have a superior cpu and gpu? I realize the Nexus is a great phone with loads of development, but unless the hardware is equivalent, I couldn't justify the trade-off of developement for lack of hardware.
The Vibrant may not be top priority for any future software updates, but the hardware is good enough to have nearly anything in the next 6 months ported to it.
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The N1 is actually quite a step down in terms of hardware but it has some really great ROMs out for it. I don't know if it will be the first to get Gingerbread but I am sure it won't be the last.
I wouldn't have done that trade either. Especially since the Vibrant now has an official build of Froyo that runs really good.
There are reports on engadget that n1 is already running 2.3
There are no errors, those are omissions
I just picked up a nexus one on Cl myself. I know on paper the vibrant is better, but honestly that's not translating in terms of user experience.
Now I know that many of the Galaxy S issues are due to lame software, and some day the user community might work many of them out, but I just got tired of waiting. The N1 running CM actually feels faster and more responsive than the vibrant in many situations (though when the gpu matters, the vibrant has a clear edge).
That last straw for me though was the idiotic GPS fix app that only reset agps settings. I need a device with a good GPS, and Samsung just couldn't deliver.
I'm going to hold onto the Vibrant for now as a backup, though. It's a great device despite its issues, and hopefully it will keep getting better. If the GPS worked properly, I could honestly have ignored everything else.
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I like my N1 also but the screen sucks after you get used to the Vibrant. I have 0 issues with my GPS. It actually locks faster and to more satellites than either my N1, G1 or TAB. Also it is way more accurate than either the G1 or N1 with the compass enabled.
You ever consider swapping the Vibrant under warranty? Because it seems the people who are having GPS issues with this phone still are few and far between so maybe there is something wrong with your hardware. I know several other people have reporting their GPS problems going away after swapping it out which further reinforces my thought that it is faulty hardware.
Samsung keeps up with these boards and they knew that a lot of people were tweaking their phones trying to get their GPS to work better and after they released the update that fixed GPS the customizations people made got in the way. So they made a little utility to return the settings to stock. The app wasn't aimed at everyone but rather the few who had messed with their settings. I just left mine alone and lived with it until the update fixed it so I have no use for the utility but if you were in there making changes then you are exactly the person they made that for.
It also has a function that tests the GPS hardware so if you haven't ran it yet give it a try. If it still doesn't work then have it replaced under warranty. You could be rocking GPS awesomeness on that Vibrant.
i would like to try a nexus one because it's always the first one to be updated. But i love my super duper amoled screen.
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i would've waited until the nexus s came out. it should also receive the latest updates since it is going to run vanilla android as well.
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The N1 is actually quite a step down in terms of hardware but it has some really great ROMs out for it. I don't know if it will be the first to get Gingerbread but I am sure it won't be the last.
I wouldn't have done that trade either. Especially since the Vibrant now has an official build of Froyo that runs really good.
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The hardware in the phone matter less than the performance of the software on that hardware.
When did people get so obsessed with "hardware and benchmarks?"
Someone here (like physically around my area) wants to trade a mint N1 to me but I'm holding off. I want to go to an N8 or WP7 device instead.
But I do think my opinion of Android as a platform would probably be different if I had used a stock phone with Google support, even if stock if rather ugly.
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i would've waited until the nexus s came out. it should also receive the latest updates since it is going to run vanilla android as well.
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Why spend money on a 6-8 month old technology if a better one (dual-core, better resolution screen, overall battery life, etc) is around the corner??
I currently own both. Old reliable N1 is just that though it does have a few things it beats the Vib at. The GPS is much better on the N1, it has LED flash (I never realize how convenient til I need it), and the trackball on the N1 though is susceptible to damage is nice even if only for notifications. Everything else on the Vib is better. The screen is far more accurate and just plain beautiful. That alone keeps me from using my N1 as a daily.
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I would definitely advise you to do it. The N1 really is a collectors item, and has some really great features. The development for the N1 is unmatched and is guaranteed to get gingerbread.
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I'm waiting on the Nexus S. When that comes out, I might be tempted to swap my Vibrant out for that. It'll likely already have Gingerbread on it too. Until then, there's currently nothing available on T-Mobile that I like better. Software can improved / updated with little to no cost involved but hardware typically can't. Whatever works for you, though.
have fun with the downgrade
Hey.
I am thinking of getting android phone, and samsung vibrant is on my list, but I want to know what is better than vibrant at the moment?
Any other andriod phones better than vibrant at the moment that has good features?
I cannot afford Nexus S at the moment as its very expensive without any contract.
Thanks.
You may find other phones that people claim is faster, such as g2 or mytouch 4g or something...but I have yet to see another android phone with the amazing gpu performance of the vibrant..plus, with a few tweaks, this phone is faster than lightning...
But to be fair, Samsung support for the phone isn't all the best. Don't expect timely updates and such. However, our dev community here is awesome and with it, you probably wont miss support from Samsung...
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Vibrant and Nexus S are bascily the same, a bit different.
umm... i really can't think of any other phone. Vibrant has filled my needs, but if you plan NOT to put a custom rom on it, or Root it... then... dont get the vibrant, samsung has quit on us, and the devs are the only reason this section is alive.
I dont know how to root or what roms are, etc, but I was waiting for 2.2 I heard it had good features.
So but now that 2.2 is not coming out are there any roms that can fill that gap?
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I dont know how to root or what roms are, etc, but I was waiting for 2.2 I heard it had good features.
So but now that 2.2 is not coming out are there any roms that can fill that gap?
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YES.
If your looking for a 2.2, there are some awesome ROMS.
Nero, Ginger Clone, and Axura are the most popular currently.
They DO have a FEW bugs, but they're pretty small ones.
there has been a LEAKED froyo(2.2) rom, if you want a stock one, there is one.
I think you'd love a Vibrant. Before you get irritated, when you buy it, open it right there, and in front of the guy who sold it to you check if the GPS works, some new ones still don't work, and if it doesn't ask for another, and another if you have to, but be sure to make the GPS work wether you use GPS or not, you'll get annoyed later.
Also, if you don't know how to root or flash custom ROMs, there are PLENTY of EASY STEP-by-STEP tutorials to do it.
Just get the nexus S if you don't want to root. Bad side of it is it doesn't have a external storage.
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Just get the nexus S if you don't want to root. Bad side of it is it doesn't have a external storage.
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Yup no ext SD was a definite deal breaker for me. Other then that it's a very nice phone.
The mt4g is a great phone for the casual person. But i wouldnt trade my vibrant for it, Im gonna wait for the fabled galaxy s2.
Fear the beard...
I actually went ahead and pulled the trigger on getting a Nexus S today. I love my Vibrant and I'm keeping it as I've had loads of fun with it because of all the community support. Macnut R14 was and is still my rom of choice with the phone and it's very smooth and not that buggy at all - and my GPS works.
Having said that, the reason I got the NS is due to direct Google support. Considering Gingerbread is out now and Samsung has yet to deliver Froyo to 3 of the 4 GS models stateside, I finally made the decision to drive something I know is going to get timely updates. If you're not going to root get the Nexus the trade offs make it about even. If you are going to root then the Vibrant could a strong choice considering what it has over the NS. I know I'll still be here flashing roms for my Vibrant even though I have a different phone to play on now.
If I didn't mind being on Sprint, I'd say the Sprint HTC EVO is better in some respects than the Vibrant. No other phones come to mind. I also still consider the Vibrant to be the best Android powered phone on T-Mobile ATM. FYI, I don't like phones with built-in physical keyboards so I tend to immediately rule those out. The lack of both the SD card slot and gorilla glass on the screen are deal killers for me on the Nexus S when comparing it to the Vibrant. The Nexus S offers nothing I want which I don't already have (EXT4 file system) or won't get in the future (Gingerbread). Timely updates aren't worth it to me.
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I actually went ahead and pulled the trigger on getting a Nexus S today. I love my Vibrant and I'm keeping it as I've had loads of fun with it because of all the community support. Macnut R14 was and is still my rom of choice with the phone and it's very smooth and not that buggy at all - and my GPS works.
Having said that, the reason I got the NS is due to direct Google support. Considering Gingerbread is out now and Samsung has yet to deliver Froyo to 3 of the 4 GS models stateside, I finally made the decision to drive something I know is going to get timely updates. If you're not going to root get the Nexus the trade offs make it about even. If you are going to root then the Vibrant could a strong choice considering what it has over the NS. I know I'll still be here flashing roms for my Vibrant even though I have a different phone to play on now.
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i envy you. i wish i have the money to buy nexus S. My mom wouldn't agree because my vibrant is 4 months old.
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i envy you. i wish i have the money to buy nexus S. My mom wouldn't agree because my vibrant is 4 months old.
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Maybe a job would help.
If you can, wait it out a few more months. There are indications that the LG Optimus phone is coming to T-Mobile in early March.
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Maybe a job would help.
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unfortunately, i can't take a job right now. it's a long story. lol
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For the price of the Vibrants right now this is the best bang for your buck stock or not. Fast processor, very customizable, 14gig storage STOCK with an external slot to increase that to only the limits of microSD cards.
My opinion is the casual user will not notice a difference in 2.1 2.2 or 2.3 aside from some cosmetics which can be imitated by many free market apps. Casual user.....
For the non casual user I will reiterate what my fellow enthusiast have already pointed out. We are blessed with some REALLY talented ROM developers that have been nothing but generous with their time and efforts.
I have never gone to a manufacturer for support on any phone I have owned. Majority of the time the communities solve the problem 1000x faster.
I would also like to point out I am not biased to this phone because I own it lol, it just happens to be the one I own currently. I for one LOVE my Vibrant. I have had a g1, my touch, every iphone and some in between.
I have only used two other android phones: the Mytouch 4G and the G2. Both are hands down a much better user/android experience than the Vibrant i now own.
The only thing that makes me think about keeping the vibrant over these other phones is that the vibrant kicks their asses when it comes to audio playback, the quality is noticeably better.
Appart from that, battery life on the vibrant is lame, the screen is big but the colors are off, withes are actually blueish. The stock software is horrible, touchwiz is a joke, seriously, so is the fact that this thing still runs 2.1.
For the more that people talk about the speed of this phone, i found it to be incredibly laggy and slow, from apps to file transfers.
Ironically the best thing about the vibrant is that it made me use my phone a lot less than the Mt4G or the G2. The G2 made me a very anti-social person.
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vibrant or nexus S
Currently have the iphone 4 from a trade I did with my nexus one. Going back to android! Stuck on which to choose the nexus S or the vibrant. Seems as if both phones are pretty much the same. Save a few hundred with the vibrant or go with the S
Thanks for all the answers, I got the Vibrant!!!!
Now, when it arrives, then need to do some reading on roms,flash,root, etc as I dont know anything about them....
To get full flash in browser, and to get GPS to work fully (if it does not work, hopefully it will) what ROM is the best to flash? And by flashing that rom, will I lose any of the stock rom features?
Because my vibrant will have stock 2.1
cthulion said:
Ironically the best thing about the vibrant is that it made me use my phone a lot less than the Mt4G or the G2. The G2 made me a very anti-social person.
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I said the same thing to the T-Mobile Reps. a couple months ago The phone has actually changed the way I use smartphones. Before I was always tethered to my smartphone, now I have to make sure I don't forget to pick it up when I go or leave some place. I don't really use it that much. It's just not fun. I tend to carry my notebook with me, now, and of course my ZuneHD
I think my next phone will almost certainly have a full QWERTY slide-out. Swipes way of automatically adding typos to the dictionary is annoying. I spent like an hour last night just removing typos that kept registering as words when trying to send texts and stuff.
My thought is that the Vibrant is the best media device on the market right now. Great codec support, best screen, excellent storage.
I've considered buying the Nexus S to use as a phone and to keep the Vibrant like it's an iPod Touch, just a movie/music/game device.
I'm still in the market for a new phone, and had my heart set on the Epic from the start. However, when I started delving deeper into the different phones, I started feeling apprehensive toward the Epic.
Why I want it:
Video/picture quality seems better than the other phones I was looking at
5row QWERTY
Non-smudgy back plate
Good stock SD card
Super AMOLED
Why I'm apprehensive toward it:
It's running 2.1 and people think Samsung is abandoning the phone
Ideally, I wanted a 4 or 4.3in display
To get 2.2 and faster speeds, I'd have to use a ROM -- I have no idea how to do it, and I also don't like the themes most of the community ROMs have.
The other phones I was interested in were the EVO 4g, the Nexus S, the Droid X, and maybe another Galaxy S phone.
So, my question to the Epic 4g community: How do you like the phone? Have you tried any of the other phones I've listed? Am I going to get shafted by Samsung and never get a 2.2 update, or is it just as easy to flash the leaked 2.2?
I lovemy epic. Greatest phone I've had. It does everything I want. I got the epic to future proof myself.
Itsvery easy to flash the leaked froyo. You don't even gotta be rooted! Also, theleaked froyo is bascally a release candidate, being almost complete but still lacking little things like bluetooth audio out.
If those are the phones on our short list, get the epic. When samsung finally releases official final froyo,those phones will have nothing on the epic.
If you can't wait for froyo, then a5least get a new dualcore phone so you can be sure you won't be left behind
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Agreed. The epic is absolutely fantastic. Even on 2.1 it's vastly better than the evo, which my girlfriend has. The nexus s however looks great and if that was on sprint it'd be a toss up for me. Don't listen to all the nay saying going on right now. Samsung easily had the best camera, screens and processor combo available for the current gen. Once you go oled it'd be hard to go back. I just recently flashed the new trulyepic 1.2 rom and imo, that's the way to go right now if want froyo. Runs fantastic.
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Well the first question I'd have for you is what carrier are you looking at? Because you just listed a bunch of phones in the OP that are on different carriers. As far as the Epic is concerned, I love it ... it has a LOT of issues, including Samsung's Froyo delay that you mentioned, but it's still one of the fastest phones out there (with a kick ass GPU mind you). Again, it depends on what you need. If you don't need QWERTY, then you might want to look at the Evo as that is one of the best supported phones on the market (in terms of the dev community).
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I'm still in the market for a new phone, and had my heart set on the Epic from the start. However, when I started delving deeper into the different phones, I started feeling apprehensive toward the Epic.
Why I want it:
Video/picture quality seems better than the other phones I was looking at
5row QWERTY
Non-smudgy back plate
Good stock SD card
Super AMOLED
Why I'm apprehensive toward it:
It's running 2.1 and people think Samsung is abandoning the phone
Ideally, I wanted a 4 or 4.3in display
To get 2.2 and faster speeds, I'd have to use a ROM -- I have no idea how to do it, and I also don't like the themes most of the community ROMs have.
The other phones I was interested in were the EVO 4g, the Nexus S, the Droid X, and maybe another Galaxy S phone.
So, my question to the Epic 4g community: How do you like the phone? Have you tried any of the other phones I've listed? Am I going to get shafted by Samsung and never get a 2.2 update, or is it just as easy to flash the leaked 2.2?
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the keyboard is convenient but i dont like it. my roommate has a g2 and it feels alot better..
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4 inch is fine. 2.2 might be out soon but the roms out leave very little to be desired anyway... then again u cant really go wrong with any of the phones on your list haha.
Thanks for the replies, guys.
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Well the first question I'd have for you is what carrier are you looking at? Because you just listed a bunch of phones in the OP that are on different carriers. As far as the Epic is concerned, I love it ... it has a LOT of issues, including Samsung's Froyo delay that you mentioned, but it's still one of the fastest phones out there (with a kick ass GPU mind you). Again, it depends on what you need. If you don't need QWERTY, then you might want to look at the Evo as that is one of the best supported phones on the market (in terms of the dev community).
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The carrier isn't important to me. It relies solely on the phone -- although, I think Sprint has one of the cheapest plans.
If trade my epic for a nexus s any day... The screen on both if my epics became loose after weeks and I harshly use the keyboard anyway
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I guess it really depends on what you are coming from. I was a die hard blackberry user.... *throws up a bit* came directly to and specifically waited for the epic after seeing several inferior android phones but knew it was where I wanted to settle once I was able to dig deeper helping a few friends mod.
Point being if it will be the first phone of this caliber, I think you will love the epic and there is no reason not to in most cases as the phone is blazing, couple it with some of the mods from the devs here.... it will be sweet. That being said, the same would likely apply to most of the other phones in your list.
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Only if you want a keyboard. I think that's all the Epic has over the Evo at this point. Yes it's faster, yes the screen is better, but.. Samsung support is terrible, while 2.1 runs fine and there are 2.2 leaks its still a sorry state to be in for a "flagship" phone.
IF you're interested in Roms.. go with an HTC. While the Evo is running a 98% functional CM7 and MIUI, and (Insert popular rom name here), the Epic's (while the developers are all awesome! This is NOT a knock) are more or less just customizations and ported applications with a breakthrough here and there such as EXT4.
Samsung is absolutely ridiculous "#neveragain". The keyboard skips letters, the GPS is moody and only works when it wants to, updates are pretty much MIA. Yes the epic is a little bit faster, with a more colorful screen, but at what cost.
Thanks to the Skippy keyboard I've become a professional on the onscreen keyboards and am highly considering a Evo off of Ebay while I can still sell the Epic for more. Maybe that gives you an idea of what it's like to own a Samsung.
</endrant> All rants aside... it's not a bad phone by any stretch of the imagination. Samsung is just better at products that don't need much support after release... like TV's...
The epic (galaxy s phone) has the best diplay and fastest GPU on the market as of posting this.
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Well after almost a week with the new Sprint Nexus-S 4G, I plan to return it and get my EVO going again. My EVO was rooted with the best Sense based ROM, "Myn's RS 5" I still think the EVO 4G is one of the better smartphones on the market ( if rooted, and good ROM installed ) even a year after it's release, and the EVO-3D should be even better yet.
I wanted the Nexus for the lightweight form factor, and easy fit in pocket...beautiful screen...and better battery life.
Well a week later I can NOT stand "vanilla" Android, didn't realize how much I took "Sense UI" for granted, basic Android feels so, uh basic, and years outdated. I mean come on the default Voice mail is to call a phone # to access messages, lol that's from the 90's man. The dialer and contacts also seem super basic and like iPhone1 or Android 1.5, and the default e-mail for non gmail is horrible, the standard e-mail widget on the EVO is perfect, and ten million times better.
So many things on "vanilla" Android just seems to be done so poorly and outdated, makes me wonder what people like about ? I know it is meant to be tweaked and played with, and add all your own custom apps and widgets, but that is stupid to me, that is just saying stock Android sucks.
Plus the battery life on my Nexus-S is not stellar like expected, sure it is better than my EVO, but barely, and the screen is actually harder to see outside in the sunlight.
Will go back to my EVO 4G, and upgrade to the EVO-2 ( 3d ), can only imagine a Myn's based ROM on that beast, with Android 2.3...dual cores...1gb memory...4gb storage...higher res screen...
Only thing I don't like on the EVO is it's thick and bulky size, it is borderline just too heavy, and big, not the 4.3" screen, I mean look at the new Galaxy S-2, that is 4.3 but super thin and lightweight, wish HTC could slim it down a bit.
Opinions ?
To each their own, I guess. I haven't tried the Nexus and don't plan to get one. I'm holding out hope we'll get we'll get the Galaxy S 2. I prefer AOSP over Sense. Sense feels gaudy to me and forces an aesthetic I don't care for. I like a lean, minimalistic approach that I can customize and make my own.
Either way. Welcome back.
You know you can put different ROMs on the Nexus S right?
I won't go with the Nexus S because it doesn't have a notification led [RETARDED] and because it's a minor bump from the Evo [not worth the loss of an upgrade] but it seems like most of your issue is the ROM itself.
Unfortunately, I read on the EVO 3D forum that if Myn can't get his hands on an EVO 3D for the upgrade price, he probably won't be devving for it. He technically doesn't qualify for an upgrade yet I believe.
So...hey, donate some money so he can buy one I guess or figure out a way to get him one for the upgrade price.
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To each their own, I guess. I haven't tried the Nexus and don't plan to get one. I'm holding out hope we'll get we'll get the Galaxy S 2. I prefer AOSP over Sense. Sense feels gaudy to me and forces an aesthetic I don't care for. I like a lean, minimalistic approach that I can customize and make my own.
Either way. Welcome back.
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That's what Myn's ROM "Warmtwopointtwo" is for, it is still "Sense" based, but gets rid of all the crapware and bloatware, and streamlines everything in the background, just keeping the core "Sense" stuff. It is a very clean and stripped down look, and then can still be themed and customized to your hearts content.
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Unfortunately, I read on the EVO 3D forum that if Myn can't get his hands on an EVO 3D for the upgrade price, he probably won't be devving for it. He technically doesn't qualify for an upgrade yet I believe.
So...hey, donate some money so he can buy one I guess or figure out a way to get him one for the upgrade price.
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hmm...I am surprised on this forum, there isn't a Sprint rep that can cut Myn a deal, get him one for the upgrade price and not pay full retail ? I thought after one year you can upgrade to a new phone by renewing on a new 2yr contract and get the phone for the $199 price ? And usually most people have a $150 gift certificate by staying with Sprint after like 10 months, I know I got one.
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That's what Myn's ROM "Warmtwopointtwo" is for, it is still "Sense" based, but gets rid of all the crapware and bloatware, and streamlines everything in the background, just keeping the core "Sense" stuff. It is a very clean and stripped down look, and then can still be themed and customized to your hearts content.
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I've tried it before. It by far is my favorite Sense rom, but I still prefer AOSP roms.
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I've tried it before. It by far is my favorite Sense rom, but I still prefer AOSP roms.
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So whats the best AOSP ROM ? CM 7 ?
Wish Cyanogen 7 was ready for the Nexus-S 4G, but they say have to wait for CM 7.1 that has official support for 2.3.4 that is on the Sprint Nexus-S.
I also got the nexus s two days ago and to be honest I love it. It a lot slimmer and lighter than the evo and it actually does not feel like its bulky in the pocket. The screen it very nice, but at times it seems a little oversaturated. Even thou it's got a 5mp camera it takes great pics and the video recording it's pretty good as well, granted it's not recording at 720p. Overall I am really enjoying a smaller phone ( didn't realize the evo was so massive compared to other phones) and hope that sprint gets a dual core 4 inch phone. I was saving my upgrade for the evo 3d but after having the nexus s I might just keep this and skip the evo 3d. Hopefully there will be a nexus 3 by the end of the year?? who knows.
in caparison to the evo;
...stock vanilla is just fine for me, straight to the point. Battery has lasting longer than the evo, nexus s does not have notification led but there is an app called "noled" which has been working just fine, love the phone design.
To be honest the evo is capable of doing everything i ever needed from a phone, and so does the nexus s ( but better for gaming) but with new and bigger tech coming out every 6months you always feel like you "need" the latest. So far the thing I'm really enjoying about the nexus is the size, it feels like the perfect size.
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So whats the best AOSP ROM ? CM 7 ?
Wish Cyanogen 7 was ready for the Nexus-S 4G, but they say have to wait for CM 7.1 that has official support for 2.3.4 that is on the Sprint Nexus-S.
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I've been using Deck's AOSP rom. There's a link to it in the Android Development forums. I use 1.0 because GB 2.3.4 roms have a MMS issue. I use Savages Zen BFS 2.1.0. You may like it.
CM7 has been unusually shaky, consider their track record. I have hope 7.1 will being more stable than the past releases.
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hmm...I am surprised on this forum, there isn't a Sprint rep that can cut Myn a deal, get him one for the upgrade price and not pay full retail ? I thought after one year you can upgrade to a new phone by renewing on a new 2yr contract and get the phone for the $199 price ? And usually most people have a $150 gift certificate by staying with Sprint after like 10 months, I know I got one.
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UT OH! Someone hasn't been paying much attention for the last three months...
I was almost going to get Nexus. Glad I didn't. EVO 3d will be beast.
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I feel the opposite I'm keeping the nexus
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here's wishing there was a 'you must be borderline MR' button...
you do realize you can put almost whatever UI you want on almost any android phone, right?
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CM7 has been unusually shaky, consider their track record. I have hope 7.1 will being more stable than the past releases.
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I agree. CM is the only thing that makes AOSP any good. Without it, it does kinda suck. Unfortunately, CM hasn't been very good for me since CM6, forcing me to go back to Sense.
timothydonohue said:
here's wishing there was a 'you must be borderline MR' button...
you do realize you can put almost whatever UI you want on almost any android phone, right?
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Try putting a Sense based ROM or UI on my Nexus-S, there is only one that I know of, and it is in beta, with a lot of features still not working. Don't know of any other "Sense UI" for the Nexus-S ?
Nice thing with Sense based phones, is they get the Sense ROM's of course, but also can easily install the AOSP ROM's too.
Watch this good hands on video of the new EVO 3D, mainly showing off Sense 3.0, which I what I wanted to see more of, I could give two ****s about the 3D on the phone. Actually I wish Sprint sold two versions, the "Sensation" non 3D version is slightly thinner, but exact same hardware.
But Sense 3.0 looks very ncie
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emdKBaC9sao&feature=related
Lol that video is like us trying to get Virus's rom to work right
Eh, it's only boring if you have no imagination and/or no ability to make things how you want them.
Vanilla android does one thing nicely, that's let you do anything you want. ADW and themes is a great example of that. I'm on AOSP right now and here's my homescreen, you may not like it, but if you don't think you could have made it how you wanted then you just didn't want to try. This is why we like Android over iOS, because we have freedom of expression, not conformity to look like everyone else's.
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Eh, it's only boring if you have no imagination and/or no ability to make things how you want them.
Vanilla android does one thing nicely, that's let you do anything you want. ADW and themes is a great example of that. I'm on AOSP right now and here's my homescreen, you may not like it, but if you don't think you could have made it how you wanted then you just didn't want to try. This is why we like Android over iOS, because we have freedom of expression, not conformity to look like everyone else's.
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So when I click your image on my evo is that the difference in screen size to scale? Or has the size of the image been reduced a bit?
Currently on an EVO 4g trying to decide if I want the Evo 3d, Moto Photon, NS4G, or stay on my Evo 4g and wait to see if the next Nexus comes in the upcoming months to Sprint.
My question to the members here, what is the NS4G community base like? Man NS4g users and devs out there? My hesitation is that the phone may have been passed up by many for the upcoming "super phones" resulting in less of a community = less community dev work for the device.
Thank you
For the nexus s 4 g we got miui and cm7. There are also some cm7/aosp based roms as well. We also got Trinity kernel and also netarchy. Honestly we got all the big names it just may seem like we have a little amount of roms. As for if you should get it, it's all up to you. I for one will only use a nexus product, I'm too attached to aosp to go use sense or touchwiz. But I heard the sgs2 might be coming out soon, that device is wow.
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Seems like there is a great community here. If you coming from a EVO 4g you might want to stick with another phone like EVO 3D. The Nexus S 4G comes very bland. However you can customize it very easy. You have to be better than a advanced user to stick the NEXUS S 4G. As far as something like touchwiz, there is a mod.. Touchwiz needs alot of work to be done to have it completely ported over. People in this community seem more concerned with other things and have a bad taste for something like touchwiz.
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Currently on an EVO 4g trying to decide if I want the Evo 3d, Moto Photon, NS4G, or stay on my Evo 4g and wait to see if the next Nexus comes in the upcoming months to Sprint.
My question to the members here, what is the NS4G community base like? Man NS4g users and devs out there? My hesitation is that the phone may have been passed up by many for the upcoming "super phones" resulting in less of a community = less community dev work for the device.
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Thank you for the replies, they have helped but still not sure which way I am going to go.
Been looking at the benchmarks and see they are fairly even, some say the adreno is better, others say the 540 is better.
I had horrible luck with CM7 on my original Evo, while other AOSP roms ran like a dream. Leads me to wonder how AOSP will be on the 3d. But with Ice cream comes dual core support and I would assume the 3d at that point would pull ahead of the NS4g in performance, making it more future proof for me over the next 2 years.
Anyways, thank you for the responses.
Is the miui bugfree for the nexus s 4g yet? Ive still yet to root my phone lol, been waiting on miui to be stable...
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fraspas said:
Is the miui bugfree for the nexus s 4g yet? Ive still yet to root my phone lol, been waiting on miui to be stable...
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MIUI, Salvage Mod, Ultimate Droid, and VaelPak AOSP preview were the most stable AOSP roms I ran on my Evo.
Now, each have their own issues, but they were stable and responsive. One thing that seems to be a mess across all of them is a less than stellar wifi signal compared to when running Sense, yet another thing that makes me worried about going with eh 3d, it's horribly annoying on the Evo 4g.
How "future proof" would you say the NS4G is? Will hardware acceleration keep the phone capable for another 2 years yet? I also want to check out the 3d screen in sunlight, huge geocacher and the Evo was terrible in sunlight.
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MIUI, Salvage Mod, Ultimate Droid, and VaelPak AOSP preview were the most stable AOSP roms I ran on my Evo.
Now, each have their own issues, but they were stable and responsive. One thing that seems to be a mess across all of them is a less than stellar wifi signal compared to when running Sense, yet another thing that makes me worried about going with eh 3d, it's horribly annoying on the Evo 4g.
How "future proof" would you say the NS4G is? Will hardware acceleration keep the phone capable for another 2 years yet? I also want to check out the 3d screen in sunlight, huge geocacher and the Evo was terrible in sunlight.
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Can't speak for the Evo 3D but the NS4G is nothing short of fantastic in sunlight... YMMV though.
The NS4G will have more developer support most likely, performance isn't going to leave you hanging, however the Evo3D does win the specs war.
Future proof in what way? The hardware is going to be capable for years to come I imagine... software wise a Nexus phone is the definition of future proof. You will be getting updates directly from Google, likely for a very long time to come.
The Evo3D has more bells and whistles, while the NS is more of a enthusiasts phone for those that want pure Android, the latest updates, a large development scene, etc. Gotta pick your poison from there.
And honastly there alot orf "CUSTOM" sense roms for the evo that have the alot of the same tweaks with just different themes already mixed in. But to not to discredit anyone i cant make hide or hair of software
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