Hey guys, just wanted to make this little post, as it will probably be my last on this forum.
Yesterday I traded my Vibrant for a Nexus One...
I just want to use this post to say goodbye to the Vibrant community. Since I no longer have a Vibrant, I won't be coming to this forum too often.
The phone was fantastic, and I really did love it. It performed flawlessly, and it was a true beauty. I just moved to the N1 because of the dev that's out there for it and the nice build of the phone. I wish I could have both.
I want to tip my hat off to all the developers that there are the this phone.
Eugene, Master, and Team Whiskey (that I can recall) really brought this phone to life, along with everybody else that contributes to this community.
Thank you all so much for being the ****ing brilliant group that you are, and hope to see you around elsewhere.
- nearblack
Im thinking of making the same trade. Nothing against the vibrant, just want to try something new.
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I would definitely advise you to do it.
The N1 really is a collectors item, and has some really great features.
The development for the N1 is unmatched and is guaranteed to get gingerbread.
How much space is there for apps? How is the N1's screen compared to the vibrant
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How much space is there for apps? How is the N1's screen compared to the vibrant
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That's the only thing that the Vibrant has over the N1. The screen is one of the best. The N1 is a better trade because of all the google support and rom support for the devs. It is, if not one of the most sought after Android phones out mainly because of the software support. I highly advise this trade.
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I just might have to do it. I have a trade lined up. An In box vibrant for an in box nexus.
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I just might have to do it. I have a trade lined up. An In box vibrant for an in box nexus.
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I recommend the trade unless you love the amoled display and can't live without it.
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I hope you'll grace us with at least one more post. After you've had the new phone for a week or so, I'd love to hear your impressions and a comparison to the Vibrant.
I too like the Nexus, but I'd never consider that trade. Doesn't the Vibrant have a superior cpu and gpu? I realize the Nexus is a great phone with loads of development, but unless the hardware is equivalent, I couldn't justify the trade-off of developement for lack of hardware.
The Vibrant may not be top priority for any future software updates, but the hardware is good enough to have nearly anything in the next 6 months ported to it.
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I too like the Nexus, but I'd never consider that trade. Doesn't the Vibrant have a superior cpu and gpu? I realize the Nexus is a great phone with loads of development, but unless the hardware is equivalent, I couldn't justify the trade-off of developement for lack of hardware.
The Vibrant may not be top priority for any future software updates, but the hardware is good enough to have nearly anything in the next 6 months ported to it.
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The N1 is actually quite a step down in terms of hardware but it has some really great ROMs out for it. I don't know if it will be the first to get Gingerbread but I am sure it won't be the last.
I wouldn't have done that trade either. Especially since the Vibrant now has an official build of Froyo that runs really good.
There are reports on engadget that n1 is already running 2.3
There are no errors, those are omissions
I just picked up a nexus one on Cl myself. I know on paper the vibrant is better, but honestly that's not translating in terms of user experience.
Now I know that many of the Galaxy S issues are due to lame software, and some day the user community might work many of them out, but I just got tired of waiting. The N1 running CM actually feels faster and more responsive than the vibrant in many situations (though when the gpu matters, the vibrant has a clear edge).
That last straw for me though was the idiotic GPS fix app that only reset agps settings. I need a device with a good GPS, and Samsung just couldn't deliver.
I'm going to hold onto the Vibrant for now as a backup, though. It's a great device despite its issues, and hopefully it will keep getting better. If the GPS worked properly, I could honestly have ignored everything else.
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I like my N1 also but the screen sucks after you get used to the Vibrant. I have 0 issues with my GPS. It actually locks faster and to more satellites than either my N1, G1 or TAB. Also it is way more accurate than either the G1 or N1 with the compass enabled.
You ever consider swapping the Vibrant under warranty? Because it seems the people who are having GPS issues with this phone still are few and far between so maybe there is something wrong with your hardware. I know several other people have reporting their GPS problems going away after swapping it out which further reinforces my thought that it is faulty hardware.
Samsung keeps up with these boards and they knew that a lot of people were tweaking their phones trying to get their GPS to work better and after they released the update that fixed GPS the customizations people made got in the way. So they made a little utility to return the settings to stock. The app wasn't aimed at everyone but rather the few who had messed with their settings. I just left mine alone and lived with it until the update fixed it so I have no use for the utility but if you were in there making changes then you are exactly the person they made that for.
It also has a function that tests the GPS hardware so if you haven't ran it yet give it a try. If it still doesn't work then have it replaced under warranty. You could be rocking GPS awesomeness on that Vibrant.
i would like to try a nexus one because it's always the first one to be updated. But i love my super duper amoled screen.
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i would've waited until the nexus s came out. it should also receive the latest updates since it is going to run vanilla android as well.
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The N1 is actually quite a step down in terms of hardware but it has some really great ROMs out for it. I don't know if it will be the first to get Gingerbread but I am sure it won't be the last.
I wouldn't have done that trade either. Especially since the Vibrant now has an official build of Froyo that runs really good.
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The hardware in the phone matter less than the performance of the software on that hardware.
When did people get so obsessed with "hardware and benchmarks?"
Someone here (like physically around my area) wants to trade a mint N1 to me but I'm holding off. I want to go to an N8 or WP7 device instead.
But I do think my opinion of Android as a platform would probably be different if I had used a stock phone with Google support, even if stock if rather ugly.
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i would've waited until the nexus s came out. it should also receive the latest updates since it is going to run vanilla android as well.
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Why spend money on a 6-8 month old technology if a better one (dual-core, better resolution screen, overall battery life, etc) is around the corner??
I currently own both. Old reliable N1 is just that though it does have a few things it beats the Vib at. The GPS is much better on the N1, it has LED flash (I never realize how convenient til I need it), and the trackball on the N1 though is susceptible to damage is nice even if only for notifications. Everything else on the Vib is better. The screen is far more accurate and just plain beautiful. That alone keeps me from using my N1 as a daily.
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I would definitely advise you to do it. The N1 really is a collectors item, and has some really great features. The development for the N1 is unmatched and is guaranteed to get gingerbread.
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I'm waiting on the Nexus S. When that comes out, I might be tempted to swap my Vibrant out for that. It'll likely already have Gingerbread on it too. Until then, there's currently nothing available on T-Mobile that I like better. Software can improved / updated with little to no cost involved but hardware typically can't. Whatever works for you, though.
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Hey.
I am thinking of getting android phone, and samsung vibrant is on my list, but I want to know what is better than vibrant at the moment?
Any other andriod phones better than vibrant at the moment that has good features?
I cannot afford Nexus S at the moment as its very expensive without any contract.
Thanks.
You may find other phones that people claim is faster, such as g2 or mytouch 4g or something...but I have yet to see another android phone with the amazing gpu performance of the vibrant..plus, with a few tweaks, this phone is faster than lightning...
But to be fair, Samsung support for the phone isn't all the best. Don't expect timely updates and such. However, our dev community here is awesome and with it, you probably wont miss support from Samsung...
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Vibrant and Nexus S are bascily the same, a bit different.
umm... i really can't think of any other phone. Vibrant has filled my needs, but if you plan NOT to put a custom rom on it, or Root it... then... dont get the vibrant, samsung has quit on us, and the devs are the only reason this section is alive.
I dont know how to root or what roms are, etc, but I was waiting for 2.2 I heard it had good features.
So but now that 2.2 is not coming out are there any roms that can fill that gap?
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I dont know how to root or what roms are, etc, but I was waiting for 2.2 I heard it had good features.
So but now that 2.2 is not coming out are there any roms that can fill that gap?
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YES.
If your looking for a 2.2, there are some awesome ROMS.
Nero, Ginger Clone, and Axura are the most popular currently.
They DO have a FEW bugs, but they're pretty small ones.
there has been a LEAKED froyo(2.2) rom, if you want a stock one, there is one.
I think you'd love a Vibrant. Before you get irritated, when you buy it, open it right there, and in front of the guy who sold it to you check if the GPS works, some new ones still don't work, and if it doesn't ask for another, and another if you have to, but be sure to make the GPS work wether you use GPS or not, you'll get annoyed later.
Also, if you don't know how to root or flash custom ROMs, there are PLENTY of EASY STEP-by-STEP tutorials to do it.
Just get the nexus S if you don't want to root. Bad side of it is it doesn't have a external storage.
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Just get the nexus S if you don't want to root. Bad side of it is it doesn't have a external storage.
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Yup no ext SD was a definite deal breaker for me. Other then that it's a very nice phone.
The mt4g is a great phone for the casual person. But i wouldnt trade my vibrant for it, Im gonna wait for the fabled galaxy s2.
Fear the beard...
I actually went ahead and pulled the trigger on getting a Nexus S today. I love my Vibrant and I'm keeping it as I've had loads of fun with it because of all the community support. Macnut R14 was and is still my rom of choice with the phone and it's very smooth and not that buggy at all - and my GPS works.
Having said that, the reason I got the NS is due to direct Google support. Considering Gingerbread is out now and Samsung has yet to deliver Froyo to 3 of the 4 GS models stateside, I finally made the decision to drive something I know is going to get timely updates. If you're not going to root get the Nexus the trade offs make it about even. If you are going to root then the Vibrant could a strong choice considering what it has over the NS. I know I'll still be here flashing roms for my Vibrant even though I have a different phone to play on now.
If I didn't mind being on Sprint, I'd say the Sprint HTC EVO is better in some respects than the Vibrant. No other phones come to mind. I also still consider the Vibrant to be the best Android powered phone on T-Mobile ATM. FYI, I don't like phones with built-in physical keyboards so I tend to immediately rule those out. The lack of both the SD card slot and gorilla glass on the screen are deal killers for me on the Nexus S when comparing it to the Vibrant. The Nexus S offers nothing I want which I don't already have (EXT4 file system) or won't get in the future (Gingerbread). Timely updates aren't worth it to me.
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I actually went ahead and pulled the trigger on getting a Nexus S today. I love my Vibrant and I'm keeping it as I've had loads of fun with it because of all the community support. Macnut R14 was and is still my rom of choice with the phone and it's very smooth and not that buggy at all - and my GPS works.
Having said that, the reason I got the NS is due to direct Google support. Considering Gingerbread is out now and Samsung has yet to deliver Froyo to 3 of the 4 GS models stateside, I finally made the decision to drive something I know is going to get timely updates. If you're not going to root get the Nexus the trade offs make it about even. If you are going to root then the Vibrant could a strong choice considering what it has over the NS. I know I'll still be here flashing roms for my Vibrant even though I have a different phone to play on now.
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i envy you. i wish i have the money to buy nexus S. My mom wouldn't agree because my vibrant is 4 months old.
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i envy you. i wish i have the money to buy nexus S. My mom wouldn't agree because my vibrant is 4 months old.
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Maybe a job would help.
If you can, wait it out a few more months. There are indications that the LG Optimus phone is coming to T-Mobile in early March.
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Maybe a job would help.
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unfortunately, i can't take a job right now. it's a long story. lol
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For the price of the Vibrants right now this is the best bang for your buck stock or not. Fast processor, very customizable, 14gig storage STOCK with an external slot to increase that to only the limits of microSD cards.
My opinion is the casual user will not notice a difference in 2.1 2.2 or 2.3 aside from some cosmetics which can be imitated by many free market apps. Casual user.....
For the non casual user I will reiterate what my fellow enthusiast have already pointed out. We are blessed with some REALLY talented ROM developers that have been nothing but generous with their time and efforts.
I have never gone to a manufacturer for support on any phone I have owned. Majority of the time the communities solve the problem 1000x faster.
I would also like to point out I am not biased to this phone because I own it lol, it just happens to be the one I own currently. I for one LOVE my Vibrant. I have had a g1, my touch, every iphone and some in between.
I have only used two other android phones: the Mytouch 4G and the G2. Both are hands down a much better user/android experience than the Vibrant i now own.
The only thing that makes me think about keeping the vibrant over these other phones is that the vibrant kicks their asses when it comes to audio playback, the quality is noticeably better.
Appart from that, battery life on the vibrant is lame, the screen is big but the colors are off, withes are actually blueish. The stock software is horrible, touchwiz is a joke, seriously, so is the fact that this thing still runs 2.1.
For the more that people talk about the speed of this phone, i found it to be incredibly laggy and slow, from apps to file transfers.
Ironically the best thing about the vibrant is that it made me use my phone a lot less than the Mt4G or the G2. The G2 made me a very anti-social person.
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vibrant or nexus S
Currently have the iphone 4 from a trade I did with my nexus one. Going back to android! Stuck on which to choose the nexus S or the vibrant. Seems as if both phones are pretty much the same. Save a few hundred with the vibrant or go with the S
Thanks for all the answers, I got the Vibrant!!!!
Now, when it arrives, then need to do some reading on roms,flash,root, etc as I dont know anything about them....
To get full flash in browser, and to get GPS to work fully (if it does not work, hopefully it will) what ROM is the best to flash? And by flashing that rom, will I lose any of the stock rom features?
Because my vibrant will have stock 2.1
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Ironically the best thing about the vibrant is that it made me use my phone a lot less than the Mt4G or the G2. The G2 made me a very anti-social person.
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I said the same thing to the T-Mobile Reps. a couple months ago The phone has actually changed the way I use smartphones. Before I was always tethered to my smartphone, now I have to make sure I don't forget to pick it up when I go or leave some place. I don't really use it that much. It's just not fun. I tend to carry my notebook with me, now, and of course my ZuneHD
I think my next phone will almost certainly have a full QWERTY slide-out. Swipes way of automatically adding typos to the dictionary is annoying. I spent like an hour last night just removing typos that kept registering as words when trying to send texts and stuff.
My thought is that the Vibrant is the best media device on the market right now. Great codec support, best screen, excellent storage.
I've considered buying the Nexus S to use as a phone and to keep the Vibrant like it's an iPod Touch, just a movie/music/game device.
Well, I was going to buy one of the new 4G phones because as it was rumored the Thunderbolt was supposed to be available this weekend.. but it is not to be I suppose SOOO..
I'm looking to buy a Fascinate off contract in order to save my upgrade.
Just wondering if there is anything I should know? I have an Incredible and I know depending on your model number it's either AMOLED or SLCD. Now I know all Fascinates are SAMOLED, but I was just using that as an example of something I would need to know if I was buying an Incredible.. if that makes any sense at all.
Thanks for your time
As far as I know there are no differences in the fascinates out here beyond best buys unique white model.
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Honestly wait for the iphone. Android is garbage in my opinion. I had the fascinate and well without the applications to spruce up a phone......well its just a phone. And i think we all want more!!!
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Honestly wait for the iphone. Android is garbage in my opinion. I had the fascinate and well without the applications to spruce up a phone......well its just a phone. And i think we all want more!!!
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And I guess the iPhone is so much more than a phone without applications to spruce it up Once again, stop trolling here. You have 20 posts and none of them have something besides bashing the Fascinate or Android.
Just another jealous Icrap fanboy who has nothing better to do than hang out in here...Get a life and a real PHONE!
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Hands down, better than the Incredible.
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If you're going to end up upgrading to a 4G phone soon after you buy the Fascinate, then why get it at all? It's just a waste of money when you already have an Incredible. Just wait for a good phone to come out.
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Yeah, if I hadn't just gotten the Fascinate I would probably prefer to wait for the i520. The new SAMOLED+ looks even more amazing than SAMOLED, and I'm probably one of the few who wishes the Fascinate had a bigger screen.
I have a fascinate and an incredible right now. The fascinate is better hardware wise. The only thing keeping me on the incredible is cyanogen.
The fascinate is STILL stuck on 2.1 and while it performs well it still feels like it's missing something. I also miss the track ball and the camera of the incredible. And the name is much better IMO
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Just wait for the new 4.3 inch beast phones coming out for Verizon right now.
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Dizfunky said:
If you're going to end up upgrading to a 4G phone soon after you buy the Fascinate, then why get it at all? It's just a waste of money when you already have an Incredible. Just wait for a good phone to come out.
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Well I can get a Fascinate for cheap without wasting my upgrade since a friend has it, and we need another phone in the family since my sister broke her original droid (it held up admirably for a good while).
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Just wait for the new 4.3 inch beast phones coming out for Verizon right now.
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None of the new phones introduced at CES will be released for several months...
Last I heard, the HTC Thunderbolt, an LTE phone, was going to be released later this month. I could be wrong though.
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Honestly wait for the iphone. Android is garbage in my opinion. I had the fascinate and well without the applications to spruce up a phone......well its just a phone. And i think we all want more!!!
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Why do you even come to these forums?
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Last I heard, the HTC Thunderbolt, an LTE phone, was going to be released later this month. I could be wrong though.
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At the press conference today they mentioned that all of the ten new devices they showed will be available the first half of the year, and "some as early as March"... So we are probably looking at April-May-June for most LTE devices
Guys no need to get angry. The guy asked for an opinion on the fascinate. And I think he needs one from someone who came from an Iphone on ATT to Samsung Fascinate on Verizon. What can he learn about a phone from ONLY people who are stuck with it........... Nothing. I think a negative review helps alot.
The fascinate has good hardware. But ive always said that android lacks in the applications department. Plain and simple.
Be smart the IPHONE is getting released on February 3rd. Wait try them both out....Then decide for yourself. Whats good for one person isnt good for another.
Another negative point SAMSUNG has the worst reputation with updating there android phones. Just a thought.
Your opinion does not make fact.
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Guys no need to get angry. The guy asked for an opinion on the fascinate. And I think he needs one from someone who came from an Iphone on ATT to Samsung Fascinate on Verizon. What can he learn about a phone from ONLY people who are stuck with it........... Nothing. I think a negative review helps alot.
The fascinate has good hardware. But ive always said that android lacks in the applications department. Plain and simple.
Be smart the IPHONE is getting released on February 3rd. Wait try them both out....Then decide for yourself. Whats good for one person isnt good for another.
Another negative point SAMSUNG has the worst reputation with updating there android phones. Just a thought.
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However, his question was not about which overall phone he should get. Just if there were anything specific to know about within the Fascinate family.
As for your opinion, its just that, you're personal opinion that only fits you. You were used to an iPhone and the apps you had. You got a completely different product that you are less happy with because you probably can't find the same apps or ones that worked comparably to what you had. Does that mean its automatically inferior, no, we as humans are just habitual and dislike change.
As for hardware, yeah, the iPhone's front camera and Apple's specific image software to tip the scales for the iPhone4 over the Fascinate. However, the EVO 4G easily bests the iPhone4.
If he were to wait on a different phone, he should do as others said and keep the Incredible and wait until later this year when a slew of LTE phones drop that ALL destroy iPhone4 and probably 5 as it will not be 4G.
As for iOS vs Android, meh, personal opinion. I like Android better as a techy guy and love the better inclusion of Google products. Again, we humans are habitual and my short stints with friends iPhones really don't do much.
For me, I'll stick with a far more open option that is rapidly surpassing anything iDevice has offered. Plus, I can create my own apps for free and without having to buy a Mac.
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Guys no need to get angry. The guy asked for an opinion on the fascinate. And I think he needs one from someone who came from an Iphone on ATT to Samsung Fascinate on Verizon. What can he learn about a phone from ONLY people who are stuck with it........... Nothing. I think a negative review helps alot.
The fascinate has good hardware. But ive always said that android lacks in the applications department. Plain and simple.
Be smart the IPHONE is getting released on February 3rd. Wait try them both out....Then decide for yourself. Whats good for one person isnt good for another.
Another negative point SAMSUNG has the worst reputation with updating there android phones. Just a thought.
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It's not about anger or hostility.
If you don't like this phone, why don't you go bug those people on the iphone forums. It just makes very little sense for you to come here and talk trash.
Didnt mean to talk trash guys. Wasnt my intention.
Hey guys,
I posted this in response to another forum post, but I wanted to get other people's opinions, as well:
Unfortunately, I am returning my Atrix tonight as well - day 27 of purchase. This is my first Android phone but I feel like I'm missing out on some of the best aspects of the XDA community and features of Android, in general. I like the Atrix, but not enough to keep it for two years on contract with most likely very meager updating by Motorola in the future. I also have some gripes about the hardware.
I consider this my introductory Android experience and absolutely love the OS. I love it so much, that I want to be able to experience more of it!
Since I sold my iPhone 4 (for a nice profit!), I will be using an old school Razr until something of interest comes along. The Inspire does not seem to warrant the use of my upgrade eligibility.
Also debating jumping ship altogether from AT&T. This whole HSPA thing, while not a deal breaker, certainly left a very bitter taste in my mouth. I have recently found AT&T store reps to be uninformed and fairly rude, especially on the phone. I have been a loyal customer since 2000.
I hope that the current locking trend we've seen from HTC and Motorola is not a sure sign of the future of Android. One of the main reasons I left my iPhone behind was because I enjoy tinkering with my phone a lot, and the Android OS is so well suited for it!
It seems like developer support is a key factor in ensuring the longevity of a device, far after the hardware company has moved on. I don't like to buy phones continuously off contract and I would like to ensure that my phone stays developmentally relevant for the duration off my contract.
This may not be the proper forum for this response, but I just felt the need to vent and am interested in hearing what you guys have to say. Not trying to bad-mouth the Atrix for those who like it, it's just not quite the Android experience I hoped for.
See you guys around XDA!!!
I'll second that
About the only thing the Atrix has going for it is the dual-core Tegra2. (being rant) Other than that, it's a piece of junk compared to cheaper phones, and what software even uses the dual-core feature? Faster browsing my a**! My iPhone 3gs had smoother and faster browsing! The screen sucks--yeah, it's got qHD, but with zig-zagged subpixels and a crappy response time, not to mention the darkest it gets is too bright and the brightest it gets is too dark. Bugs everywhere, if I leave the phone on for a day I stop getting text messages or data. I've never been able to get a google voice voicemail to play on my phone. I can't decline an update, I've been keeping the WiFi off for the last few days just to avoid it. I agree totally that Android is a nice OS, but I'm not going to hold my breath waiting for Motorola to give me something better than 2.2. (end rant)
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About the only thing the Atrix has going for it is the dual-core Tegra2. (being rant) Other than that, it's a piece of junk compared to cheaper phones, and what software even uses the dual-core feature? Faster browsing my a**! My iPhone 3gs had smoother and faster browsing! The screen sucks--yeah, it's got qHD, but with zig-zagged subpixels and a crappy response time, not to mention the darkest it gets is too bright and the brightest it gets is too dark. Bugs everywhere, if I leave the phone on for a day I stop getting text messages or data. I've never been able to get a google voice voicemail to play on my phone. I can't decline an update, I've been keeping the WiFi off for the last few days just to avoid it. I agree totally that Android is a nice OS, but I'm not going to hold my breath waiting for Motorola to give me something better than 2.2. (end rant)
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I can't really agree with any of that.....and I'm guessing you haven't heard the leak that the 2.3 update is coming very soon?
Even one star is generous.
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I can't really agree with any of that.....and I'm guessing you haven't heard the leak that the 2.3 update is coming very soon?
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I haven't had any of those issues. In my experience, it's a very stable phone. Which leak are you referring to? The DroidX ROM containing the At&t mention?
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I can't...
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I can't really agree with any of that.....and I'm guessing you haven't heard the leak that the 2.3 update is coming very soon?
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How dare you make me defend my statements! ;-) So, regarding the browsing, I'm sure you've noticed that when you scroll with several images on the page the images lag begind the text. As far as loading is concerned, it's hard for me to say that it's not my network conditions, but my 3gs definitely seemed faster. After a little bit of research, I've found that other people complained of this too, but apparently you can change flash to "on-demand" to make general browsing lag-free (haven't confirmed this personally)
As far as the zig-zagged subpixels are concerned, it's a well known fact that Motorola used a pentile pixel matrix to cut costs. It's harder to tell with black on white, but look at any blue hyperlink on a white background, especially when zoomed out (image originally referenced from here).
The display response time has been noticed by others. I couldn't find any official specs to confirm this, but if I'm right that it's a problem then the lack of published response time specs wouldn't be surprising.
Data dropping out is also a well known issue. There's also a post on Motorola's support forum.
The brightness issue is subjective, but I've read a few places that the screen doesn't do to well in daylight. I'm not going to bother referencing this or my google voice problem, their just straws on the camel's back.
Finally, I'm not going to use some rumor that 2.3 is coming soon (how soon?) to push me past my 30-day return limit. Too arbitrary.
So, maybe you don't agree with everything I say, but I hope I just made it really hard for you to say you don't agree with anything I say while keeping a straight face
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Hey guys,
I posted this in response to another forum post, but I wanted to get other people's opinions, as well:
Unfortunately, I am returning my Atrix tonight as well - day 27 of purchase. This is my first Android phone but I feel like I'm missing out on some of the best aspects of the XDA community and features of Android, in general. I like the Atrix, but not enough to keep it for two years on contract with most likely very meager updating by Motorola in the future. I also have some gripes about the hardware.
I consider this my introductory Android experience and absolutely love the OS. I love it so much, that I want to be able to experience more of it!
Since I sold my iPhone 4 (for a nice profit!), I will be using an old school Razr until something of interest comes along. The Inspire does not seem to warrant the use of my upgrade eligibility.
Also debating jumping ship altogether from AT&T. This whole HSPA thing, while not a deal breaker, certainly left a very bitter taste in my mouth. I have recently found AT&T store reps to be uninformed and fairly rude, especially on the phone. I have been a loyal customer since 2000.
I hope that the current locking trend we've seen from HTC and Motorola is not a sure sign of the future of Android. One of the main reasons I left my iPhone behind was because I enjoy tinkering with my phone a lot, and the Android OS is so well suited for it!
It seems like developer support is a key factor in ensuring the longevity of a device, far after the hardware company has moved on. I don't like to buy phones continuously off contract and I would like to ensure that my phone stays developmentally relevant for the duration off my contract.
This may not be the proper forum for this response, but I just felt the need to vent and am interested in hearing what you guys have to say. Not trying to bad-mouth the Atrix for those who like it, it's just not quite the Android experience I hoped for.
See you guys around XDA!!!
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I am actually a little unclear with what issues you have with the phone, most of this post just seems like you talking about liking the OS but not liking the AT&T service, HTC and motorola. You said very little about the phone itself.
to me it sounds like the best thing you should do is indeed jump ship from AT&T and go to verizon or something. As far as the "locking trend" from motorola and HTC.. i am assuming you are talking about the restrictions on sideloading and such. I may be wrong but i feel like this is an AT&T issue not motorola. Other providers that have HTC and Motorola dont seem to have as much issue (please correct me if i am wrong, i do not have too much experience with other providers) So dont worry this is not a sign of the future of android.
Sorry to hear you are not keeping the atrix, i have not had mine as long as you have but i love mine so far. Thanks for the input tho
I wasnt trying to write a post about my specific gripes with the Atrix, moreso I was trying to explain what I feel like I may be missing out on, with regards to Android.
I like HTC a lot, actually.
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I gotcha. Didn't mean to change the mood of your thread, just felt like ranting since I wish I could tell myself to keep the Atrix. I'm going to return my Atrix and hold out for six months at least to see what else comes out. I'm hoping the Galaxy S II will hit AT&T, but I am a bit jealous of my friend who gets 5mb+ on his Verizon iPhone4.
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I wasnt trying to write a post about my specific gripes with the Atrix, moreso I was trying to explain what I feel like I may be missing out on, with regards to Android.
I like HTC a lot, actually.
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Opera 11.
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I think threads like this should be moderated and closed.
To complain about little things like a bit of browser lag, etc - pretty much anything not related to the Atrix itself, is like WTF? Take it up with your carrier, don't blame the handset.
Who really cares if you want to take your Atrix back. Just do it, no need to tell the world about it..
For the record, I've had my Bell Canada Atrix now for a week, and I can't fault it. The last 3 phones I've owned have been HTC Desire HD, iPhone 4 and Nexus S - and other than the Nexus S's gorgeous SAMOLED screen, the Atrix kicks all of others hands down.
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I think threads like this should be moderated and closed.
To complain about little things like a bit of browser lag, etc - pretty much anything not related to the Atrix itself, is like WTF? Take it up with your carrier, don't blame the handset.
Who really cares if you want to take your Atrix back. Just do it, no need to tell the world about it..
For the record, I've had my Bell Canada Atrix now for a week, and I can't fault it. The last 3 phones I've owned have been HTC Desire HD, iPhone 4 and Nexus S - and other than the Nexus S's gorgeous SAMOLED screen, the Atrix kicks all of others hands down.
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Love my atrix too but... its a public forum they could ***** all they want
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Atrix is not what I expected either I had a better time when im using my captivate
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I love my captivate the Super AMOLED is amazing! but i feel like that is the only thing that beats the Atrix. Oh and the Captivate has a much better camera software.. but i shoot a DSLRs so it doesnt bother me.
Im thinking if AT&T gets the Galaxy S II, i might have to switch just cuz the Super AMOLED is AMAZING.
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Love my atrix too but... its a public forum they could ***** all they want
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I will also return 'cause its superlocked bootloader, can't be overclocked to thousands Ghz, can't install 3 roms one on top of each other and I can see the pixels of that pentile screen with my left eye. I just now realize that I don't really need a phone :-o
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i will also return 'cause its superlocked bootloader, can't be overclocked to thousands ghz, can't install 3 roms one on top of each other and i can see the pixels of that pentile screen with my left eye. I just now realize that i don't really need a phone :-o
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bwahahahaahahahahahahahahhahahahahha!!!
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I will also return 'cause its superlocked bootloader, can't be overclocked to thousands Ghz, can't install 3 roms one on top of each other and I can see the pixels of that pentile screen with my left eye. I just now realize that I don't really need a phone :-o
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oh come on, that isn't fair!
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well there is a lot of thread people dont like and so on. i dont like locked bootloader perhaps its an amazing phone fast and the screen its weird because you can see pixels on the screen (why???) perhaps the bright under de sun on clarity i like more than my nexus one, webtop on hdmi its cool, the multimedia HD its pretty nice too,im returning (maybe) but to get another since i guess have a bad battery seems it dont last too mucho or maybe im so heavy user lol
well anyways good luck next device.
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OMG, I can't believe little things ever matter! Seriously, the purpose of a forum is for discussion, and this one seems very one sided--everyone who likes their Atrix is just making smartass comments (except zen kun, thanks for contributing to the discussion).
If you don't like open discussion, why don't you move to China?
I was a big hater for Samsung due to their broken GPS (some fixes help but it's still broken), Samsung's denial of the GPS problem then their "the next update will fix it" NOT, slow software updates and RFS file system. I truly was #neveragain.
But all in all, I do like the SGS (our devs have helped with that). Screen is amazing, good cpu/gpu, nice storage, good camera. So why would I not consider the SGS II for my next phone? It has a better and bigger screen, blazing quick processor, new gps radio, no RFS.
My mind is saying #neveragain, get the G2X but the specs make me want forgive sammy and wait for the SGSII.
Oh, HTC Sensation is out if it has a locked bootloader.
Good question. I absolutely LOVE my SGS except for the GPS. When I let people hold it, they are amazed at the weight and i love the speed, screen response etc. Just pretty PO'd about the GPS. I have a work around but it takes between 10-15 for it to wake the heck up!
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I was a big hater for Samsung due to their broken GPS (some fixes help but it's still broken), Samsung's denial of the GPS problem then their "the next update will fix it" NOT, slow software updates and RFS file system. I truly was #neveragain.
But all in all, I do like the SGS (our devs have helped with that). Screen is amazing, good cpu/gpu, nice storage, good camera. So why would I not consider the SGS II for my next phone? It has a better and bigger screen, blazing quick processor, new gps radio, no RFS.
My mind is saying #neveragain, get the G2X but the specs make me want forgive sammy and wait for the SGSII.
Oh, HTC Sensation is out if it has a locked bootloader.
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If your mind says G2x than go for it. It does however have problems of its own at the moment. The common feeling around here these days is that Samsung seems to have learned from their mistake and are trying harder. Only time will tell for sure. If you dont wana wait for it get the G2x and hope the problems are cleared up soon. Worst comes to worst you can sell it and put that money towards the SGS2 when it finally comes out.
I started #NeverAgain
I would absolutely get the SGS2. The phone will be amazing.
All manufacturers have their issues, Samsung proved they would listen (they really did, trust me). They havent shown any signs of locking bootloaders and hopefully they continue improving with releasing source.
Timely updates is not their thing.
It also looks like an iPhone. Yuck (my opinion), only b/c everytime I look at it that's what I would think about.
get the international version so you can update faster.
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Well...
I don't know anymore after reading engadget's review. They said it's the best smartphone they've ever tested.
If engadget says that an they are hard to impress look at all of the reviews lately low an they said ever so I am most deff getting jus need one for tmo
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The galaxy s2 seems like it owns the g2x. In most reviews ive read like they say the battery life lasts 2 days with heavy use. That's ridiculous. And the GPS is fixed on the sgs2. Hell its even fixed on the galaxy s 4g which is what i have. And the screen looks amazing. 4.3 inch super amoled plus. keep in mind the g2x has many issues like major screen bleed and horrible battery drain in standby mode.
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Everyone cries about SGS being this and that, but it is one of the best phones on the market to date. Yes the GPS was flaky, but try the New G2x or any other of the phones and you will find lots of problems...... me ? I am waiting for the S-2 it will be better and it will be the hardware I am looking for, I really never cared about any of the operating systems...... they all suck one way or another. So, as long as the hardware is good, then Ill just load my own custon stuff and I am happy........ people whine too much and really expect perfection when there is not any anywhere in this world.............
I'm going to wait till the SGS II is out for a couple of months before I decide.
I jumped on the Vibrant on the first day it was released, but if I had known what I now know about the Vibrant, I'm not sure I would have gotten it.
So how will/is the build quality? Is it plastic, like ours, or more solid like htc phones?
Do we know how the processor compares to what will be in the htc Sensation or the Tegra 2's that are out?
duel core, 4.3" screen, 1gb of ram seem awesome, but is the phone able to actually effectively use all that power, or has the hardware been hindered by the software/code writing like our Vibrants were?
Thanks for any responses, just trying to get more info
Plastic, but apparently very good still. As mentioned before, Engadget thinks it might be the best smartphone ever.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/28/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-review/
SGS2 =Beast!!! Don't let anyone else tell you otherwise.... It will.be the best phone on the market when it comes out.
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SGS II is my next phone!
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The SGS II looks like it will be the best phone on the market when it's released and I might just buy one even though my partial subsidy for a new phone likely won't have gone into effect when it's released.
I do think I'll wait a month or so before i take the plunge to see which of the Dev's pick one up and begin customizing ROM's for this phone. I like my Vibrant but that's in large part due to Sombionix, Eugene and Birgertime (to name a few) who have taken their time to brew up ROM's that make the Vibrant perform at or near it's full ability. Without them and the other Dev's I'd like this phone a LOT less...
i'll definitely consider the sgs2, but will wait and see how/when the release happens in the us first. i was unhappy about samsung's lack of updates, but overall i don't think a new phone has come out that is good enough to warrant me ditching my vibrant. sgs2 may be enough of a tech leap forward.
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Plastic, but apparently very good still. As mentioned before, Engadget thinks it might be the best smartphone ever.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/28/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-review/
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thanks for the response. good read. so samsung got rid of the RFS file system?
My plan: wait until a different SGSII hits each carrier, considering a different SGS hit each major (and minor) carrier the first time around. Wait a solid two months while monitoring the XDA forums. Determine which SGSII on which carrier has the most enthusiastic support from the developer community.
Purchase accordingly.
Because **** AT&T-Mobile. #noloyalty
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My plan: wait until a different SGSII hits each carrier, considering a different SGS hit each major (and minor) carrier the first time around. Wait a solid two months while monitoring the XDA forums. Determine which SGSII on which carrier has the most enthusiastic support from the developer community.
Purchase accordingly.
Because **** AT&T-Mobile. #noloyalty
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that's part of my plan. i want to wait and see if they do the same dumb fragmentation thing with the us carriers or if we get a uniform release. if it's fragmented, i will see if i can get an international and if it works on tmob.
Hell yeah.
I'm getting one as soon as price of one (new or used) is under $500. My 1.5Ghz Vibrant is fast enough for the time being.
Anyone else slightly losing faith in their atrix?
I just put gingerbread on my cappy and I'm so impressed by the speed. I know I'm comparing froyo to gingerbread but for a dual core Id expect a bit betterr performance. The cappy handles live wallpapers much better than the atrix.
What's keeping me here is the fact that moto seems to actually care, the phone has gotten two updates already, and while second one has lower my phone down, I imagine that will be fixed.
Do you think the atrix is going to "fly" once gingerbread comes out for it? That's what I'm hoping for, or even if moto unlocked the bl
It will fly with gingerbread!
yea my buddy has an incredible and gingerbread made that phone buttery smooth.
this phone is still new.. I'll give it at least six months before I think about getting rid of it
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I'll give it at least six months before I think about getting rid of it
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This, I believe, refers to what the OP may be describing.
Smartphones are newer and better all the time. People on here buy every new phone! The Atrix new luster and excitement has worn off, and people are ready to move on to the next big thing(seems to be Galaxy S 2).
Thats the nature of the tech industry, and more specifically the smartphone industry.
I don't think I'd mind waiting 6 months, but also part of me says that 6 months is a long time to get the phone to a smooth point.
It will fly if we get the 2.4 gingerbread optimized for dual cores.
Hey,
I had my Evo for about a year before having to make the decision to switch to AT&T. Here in the USVI, AT&T is just plain out faster, calls are clearer, there are less issues with the service and so on and so forth. I would have kept my Evo until the Evo 3D came out or something.
The Atrix is a beast of a phone and the service is great! I'm satisfied with what I have and from this point on, it can only get better.
Have faith, man.
I never got all those comments about how unresponsive the Atrix is.. mine is super responsive. Granted I come from a Touch HD (WinMo) phone which was friggin' slow as molasses by today's standards so yeah.. but hey the iPhone 4 is supposed to be a snappyness reference yet I constantly see my friends iPhones lag doing some basic thing at some point, and I find my Atrix to be way up there, so i'm not sure about all the complaining.. I don't get it.
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Anyone else slightly losing faith in their atrix?
I just put gingerbread on my cappy and I'm so impressed by the speed. I know I'm comparing froyo to gingerbread but for a dual core Id expect a bit betterr performance. The cappy handles live wallpapers much better than the atrix.
What's keeping me here is the fact that moto seems to actually care, the phone has gotten two updates already, and while second one has lower my phone down, I imagine that will be fixed.
Do you think the atrix is going to "fly" once gingerbread comes out for it? That's what I'm hoping for, or even if moto unlocked the bl
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Things that I would like to change:
-Different Themed Notifications bar with GingerBread Update
-HSPA+
I like the phone, I dont have any other problems with it. I can live with a locked bootloader, to me its not that big of a deal anymore because we wont get it unlocked....
I lost faith in my phone months ago. Wish I held out for an actually good phone.
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I lost faith in my phone months ago. Wish I held out for an actually good phone.
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You have expensive taste.
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The thing that sucks about this phone is mostly just the locked bootloader... sure gingerbread may come, and we finally got the hspa+, but what I really want is to be able to flash custom roms. Until then we're basically crippled and are stuck with clunky and featureless motoblur which barely taps into this things potential.
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I lost faith in my phone months ago. Wish I held out for an actually good phone.
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Lol.. No matter how amazing a device is, there will always be those who criticize it.
The hardware specs and technological innovations implemented on this phone are unlike any phone ever produced. For you to imply that this is not "actually a good phone" makes you appear very ignorant. I don't mean that in a disrespectful way.
I think the main issue here is usability for the average non-tech savvy user.. When they don't understand why the phone isn't doing what they want it to do, they assume it can't or it just sucks.. There are some users such as myself who understand the progression of new hardware & the intricacies involved with getting software to interface correctly with it. We expect to run into issues & focus on solutions rather than complaining.
If you want an environment where everything just works without much input needed from you, consider steve jobs walled garden aka iOS
Otherwise, dig in, try to understand how android & the phone works.. It's only gonna get better.
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Most roms are just gingerbread with features that don't work. Flashing roms is fun until you needs to actually use your phone. Custom roms and kernals have so many bugs.
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im interested in the galaxy 2
Bell users have it worse.
We haven't even gotten a freakin update yet...
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Lol.. No matter how amazing a device is, there will always be those who criticize it.
The hardware specs and technological innovations implemented on this phone are unlike any phone ever produced. For you to imply that this is not "actually a good phone" makes you appear very ignorant. I don't mean that in a disrespectful way.
I think the main issue here is usability for the average non-tech savvy user.. When they don't understand why the phone isn't doing what they want it to do, they assume it can't or it just sucks.. There are some users such as myself who understand the progression of new hardware & the intricacies involved with getting software to interface correctly with it. We expect to run into issues & focus on solutions rather than complaining.
If you want an environment where everything just works without much input needed from you, consider steve jobs walled garden aka iOS
Otherwise, dig in, try to understand how android & the phone works.. It's only gonna get better.
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No one expects to run into issues with a 600 dollar piece of technology. They should, and rightfully so, expect it to work. THe G2x seems to have almost identical specs, and that phone performs much better under all situations. Android isn't about forcing the user to do unnecessary steps to make his phone work on par with any other on the market, its about giving you the opportunity to allow you to do more than whats on the the market. I can say right now, for the past 3 android phones i've boughten, i've never had to do anything special to make them work. Power on. Power off. Done. What makes the atrix different?
I know that sounds like a hateful post, but it's not. I just don't think it's fair for people to say a 600 dollar piece of electronic isn't gonna work right out of the box. I do still love my atrix, the form is great and the fingerprint scanner is very nice. But my concerns are legitimate and aren't solvable by steve jobs.
I'm fed up. Totally disappointed by the phone. The webtop mode remindes me of the carphone idea. Seemed good at the time buy useless shortly after. Hopefuly the galaxy S 2 will be announced tomorrow for att. If not on ordering from UK. This is the best android phone out right now for AT&T. Almost makes me wish I didn't jump ship for the iPhone 4 in June from T-Mobile (g2x & nexus s)
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I'm fed up. Totally disappointed by the phone. The webtop mode remindes me of the carphone idea. Seemed good at the time buy useless shortly after. Hopefuly the galaxy S 2 will be announced tomorrow for att. If not on ordering from UK. This is the best android phone out right now for AT&T. Almost makes me wish I didn't jump ship for the iPhone 4 in June from T-Mobile (g2x & nexus s)
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I think AT&T is announcing the samsung infuse tomorrow, not the SGSII, but who knows. I agree, webtop was cool for that first time you show your friends, but i've never used it since. While i have a HUGE grudge against samsung from the captivate debacle, i might try the SGSII but that probably won't hit until july like the cappy.
I switched to an inspire, I love the phone and everything about it, no lag with the latest cm. I'm switching back to the atrix for the ffc and battery life, battery life is abysmal on the inspire.
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