POWERVR SGX 540 galaxy S open source driver - Captivate Android Development

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=OTAzNg

I am definitely not a developer but it sure seems like that would help with a pure AOSP build for our phones. I can only hope

Is this something newly released? Didnt the CM guys need this source?
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cchant said:
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=OTAzNg
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This article just links to an article saying there "might be" an open PowerVR Driver in Q3'11 (http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=ODk4Ng). The rest of the article is about reverse engineering a driver for the S3C6410 found in the Galaxy Spica. The title of the article is very misleading, since most Samsung Galaxy phones have a completely different GPU.

This is for the "Galaxy" line of phones, not the "Galaxy S"... the driver/GPU they're talking about is in the Galaxy Spica and is the S3C6410. We with Galaxy S's have the PowerVR SGX 540. If you read the article, there's the possibility that there MIGHT be an open source PowerVR driver out by quarter 3 of 2011 (late fall), but that we shouldn't hold our breath.
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=ODk4Ng

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OMAP4 Galaxy S2

Apparently there may be an obscure OMAP4 version of the S2.
http://phandroid.com/2011/06/01/samsung-prepping-galaxy-s-ii-variant-with-omap4/
What happened to the galaxy s II mini? Last I heard it was getting a 1.4 or 1.5 ghz single core processor but maybe its something to do with this different phone?
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This actually really irritates me. The S2 should be the S2 and nothing else. If they want to use a Tegra or OMAP CPU then fine, but call the phone something else! Fragmentation within the same model now??
rovex said:
This actually really irritates me. The S2 should be the S2 and nothing else. If they want to use a Tegra or OMAP CPU then fine, but call the phone something else! Fragmentation within the same model now??
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I totally agree.
This actually might be very true.
I have seen a lot of OMAP_ENHANCEMENT optimizations in the webkit source code for the I9100 that are disabled for our device but exist in the source code nevertheless.
Technical Manager, Eros Electronics (samsung dealer in UAE) said that OMAP is coming in UAE model? but He didnt confirmed.. as no specs officially available to them..
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This actually might be very true.
I have seen a lot of OMAP_ENHANCEMENT optimizations in the webkit source code for the I9100 that are disabled for our device but exist in the source code nevertheless.
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I wonder if it'll have dual channel memory like the lg optimus 3d.

New galaxy s2, cpu question

Hello fellow galaxy comrades. I've finally bought myself a galaxy s2, I absolutely adore it. But I just have a question, when I use android system info ap its says that I have an ARMv7 processor, however when I check the Internet many sites say it should have an cortex arm9.
My gpu is mali400 which seems fine but I'm just worried i've picked up a variant. I'd rather have the original beast.
Have a picked up a variant?
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You have the correct phone .
Question been asked before .
jje
Hero Yu said:
Hello fellow galaxy comrades. I've finally bought myself a galaxy s2, I absolutely adore it. But I just have a question, when I use android system info ap its says that I have an ARMv7 processor, however when I check the Internet many sites say it should have an cortex arm9.
My gpu is mali400 which seems fine but I'm just worried i've picked up a variant. I'd rather have the original beast.
Have a picked up a variant?
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As legit as a bar of gold my friend...the terms you see are purely technical terms hence the variance. Not to worry, the other variant (cut down version) has LCD rather than LED (not as bright, vibrant or wow factor), has Nvidia chipset (slower than Mali). So I would be surprised if you were even able to purchase the variant (Samsung I9103) since it has not been released for sale. Specification of the variant...
Thank you for your quick reply, I'll be hitting that thanks button when I get to a computer
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ARMvX is the architecture, the cortex A9 is an ARMv7 design.
Also you may notice that some programs say only 1 core, but thats due to the phone hotpluging (aka adding and removing while the power is on) the 2nd core as and when needed to save power.
Just make sure the box says GT-9100 and you're all good. There were no CPU variants with this product code.
I think the Nvidia Tegra II version is the GT-9103
what if you get i9250!!!
omg droolz~~
well just incase the OP take this seriously; its in IFA consumer electronics Samsung device lineup.
Samsung I9250 (W48) - 4.65" SuperAMOLED of HD resolution (1280x720 pixels), Android Ice Cream sandwich, 5 MP camera.
lol thank you all for your kind responses,puts me at ease. I shall be thanking you all.

I9100 vs I9100G !!!!

I bought my Galaxy SII, a few days back. At that time i had option to choose between I9100 and I9100G, as the vendor had both. So, i preferred I9100 over I9100G.
Many of you, may have got I9100G, recently, as it is the new stock available. Samsung is trying to replace the original SII, i.e. I9100 with I9100G, in the markets of INDIA, MALAYSIA & SINGAPORE.
This is to fulfill the demands of GALAXY SII, which has increased vastly. So, to fulfill the demand, before it dies out, SAMSUNG has quietly slipped I9100G version, which has PowerVR TI OMAP 4430 processor, and not the Exynos 4210.
So, what i have researched and found out is that, it is better, if you can get an I9100, before it extincts, instead of getting stuck with "G".
By no means, i am saying that, I9100G, is bad, what i am trying to say here is that, its not as good as I9100's Exynos.
Some major differences which i found out are:-
1. Galaxy SII I9100 will be the first in the GALAXY family, to get an ICS update.
2. Exynos processors still have huge RAW power.
3. The isuue is GPU used in I9100G has PowerVR540 TI OMAP 4430, at 300 MHz,which is single core and weak, compared to MALI400MP+, which is quadcore inside Exynos.
******I am talking about GPU, and not single or dual core CPU******
4. Regarding future updates, I9100G users may be isolated, as I9100G is not replacing original I9100 in EU, and so many other countries.
5. Also, the development support for I9100, is much much much greater than I9100G. As majority of the community still uses I9100.
6. The overheating problem is very less in I9100G, as compared to I9100.
7. Battery, too performs well in I9100G.
8. But, both overheating, and battery improvement, doesn't comes without cost. I9100G doesn't gets overheated, because its cpu is clocked max at 1.008 Ghz, unlike 1.2Ghz in I9100. Same, helps with improved battery.
Well, these were the major issues which i pointed out.
Also, here i am just trying to convey knowledge, which i gained to others.I have not posted this to decide whats superior, its just a comaprison.
Any Opinions, or views is warmly welcomed.
Nice post. I suggest you head to Indian Galaxy SII owner thread for more details.
The Indian I9100G got an official 2.3.6 update via Samsung KIES and I9100 DIDNT get any update. Its still stuck on 2.3.3 in India, where as most of the world got 2.3.6 1-2 weeks back. So in short, Samsung has stopped supporting FW update for I9100 via KIES and OTA.
Check the thread for more details. Members are posting Samsung India on Facebook, Twitter, their customer support chat etc etc. Only way to upgrade Indian I9100 is to flash European Firmware.
spoiltz said:
I bought my Galaxy SII, a few days back. At that time i had option to choose between I9100 and I9100G, as the vendor had both. So, i preferred I9100 over I9100G.
Many of you, may have got I9100G, recently, as it is the new stock available. Samsung is trying to replace the original SII, i.e. I9100 with I9100G, in the markets of INDIA, MALAYSIA & SINGAPORE.
This is to fulfill the demands of GALAXY SII, which has increased vastly. So, to fulfill the demand, before it dies out, SAMSUNG has quietly slipped I9100G version, which has PowerVR TI OMAP 4430 processor, and not the Exynos 4210.
So, what i have researched and found out is that, it is better, if you can get an I9100, before it extincts, instead of getting stuck with "G".
By no means, i am saying that, I9100G, is bad, what i am trying to say here is that, its not as good as I9100's Exynos.
Some major differences which i found out are:-
1. Galaxy SII I9100 will be the first in the GALAXY family, to get an ICS update.
2. Exynos processors still have huge RAW power.
3. The isuue is GPU used in I9100G has PowerVR540 TI OMAP 4430, at 300 MHz,which is single core and weak, compared to MALI400MP+, which is quadcore inside Exynos.
******I am talking about GPU, and not single or dual core CPU******
4. Regarding future updates, I9100G users may be isolated, as I9100G is not replacing original I9100 in EU, and so many other countries.
5. Also, the development support for I9100, is much much much greater than I9100G. As majority of the community still uses I9100.
6. The overheating problem is very less in I9100G, as compared to I9100.
7. Battery, too performs well in I9100G.
8. But, both overheating, and battery improvement, doesn't comes without cost. I9100G doesn't gets overheated, because its cpu is clocked max at 1.008 Ghz, unlike 1.2Ghz in I9100. Same, helps with improved battery.
Well, these were the major issues which i pointed out.
Also, here i am just trying to convey knowledge, which i gained to others.I have not posted this to decide whats superior, its just a comaprison.
Any Opinions, or views is warmly welcomed.
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I9100G is better for porting cyanogenmod etc.
TI is a very good Soc vendor
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^Yeah, that is a plus point of I9100G. The TI OMAP processor is very dev friendly, thanks to its source being released and its presence in many phones like Optimus 2X, Galaxy Nexus, Nexus S, Moto Razr etc. This is one of the reasons why 2.3.6 update of I9100G was released earlier than I9100 in India. I bet ICS porting will also be easy as Galaxy Nexus is also using Ti OMAP (4460 instead of 4430) but same Power VR GPU.
Expect ports of all major ROMS soon. CM9 and MIUI ports are already confirmed.
Also, the I9100G sound quality is better than I9100, thanks to OMAP processor. We all know about the audio quality of S2 from the Anandtech article, which criticizes the Ymaha DAC used on I9100.
The Mali GPU isn't quad core, doesn't mean it says 4 cores its quad, e.g my amd gpu has 600 cores, so whats that?
The Mali GPU is a single core in the SGS2, it is better than the SGX543 which Apple A5 chip uses but has 2 SGX543 which is why it outperforms all GPU even Tegra 3 which atm is the best single GPU.
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Nice post. I suggest you head to Indian Galaxy SII owner thread for more details.
The Indian I9100G got an official 2.3.6 update via Samsung KIES and I9100 DIDNT get any update. Its still stuck on 2.3.3 in India, where as most of the world got 2.3.6 1-2 weeks back. So in short, Samsung has stopped supporting FW update for I9100 via KIES and OTA.
Check the thread for more details. Members are posting Samsung India on Facebook, Twitter, their customer support chat etc etc. Only way to upgrade Indian I9100 is to flash European Firmware.
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The official support for indian i9100, is not closed.
Still, the phone will get ICS, confirmed it via Samsung India.
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^Yeah, that is a plus point of I9100G. The TI OMAP processor is very dev friendly, thanks to its source being released and its presence in many phones like Optimus 2X, Galaxy Nexus, Nexus S, Moto Razr etc. This is one of the reasons why 2.3.6 update of I9100G was released earlier than I9100 in India. I bet ICS porting will also be easy as Galaxy Nexus is also using Ti OMAP (4460 instead of 4430) but same Power VR GPU.
Expect ports of all major ROMS soon. CM9 and MIUI ports are already confirmed.
Also, the I9100G sound quality is better than I9100, thanks to OMAP processor. We all know about the audio quality of S2 from the Anandtech article, which criticizes the Ymaha DAC used on I9100.
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Both the phones got pro's as well as con's.
I9100 still got better development support, as it is available in majority of countries. Whereas, I9100G will only be pushed to India, Vietnam, Malaysia & Singapore Markets.
Updates which are being developed, will be first pushed to I9100, as its community is vast.
It doesn't matters, if an update is being pushed to India or not.Actually, this is the point of us being here, that if we don't get something, and are not satisfied, we can look at development at xda. A EU firmware, or any other firmware, doesn't really matters.
Same thing applies, with I9100G, it really doesn't matters, what you have got with it, there is always development, as long as devs support it.
For now, I9100 got better support, as it was here from a long time. Now, that I9100G is here, it too will get supported.
Rest TI OMAP4430 PoverVR540, too is on par with Exynos 4210.
I9100G replacing I9100 is not true, Until the stock arrives for I9100 , the"G" series will be replacing it.
bala_gamer said:
I9100G replacing I9100 is not true, Until the stock arrives for I9100 , the"G" series will be replacing it.
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The thing is, to meet the demands of I9100, Samsung pushed I9100G, quietly, so that the demand doesn't dies out.
Also, as i was informed by the Samsung People, was that I9100G, will be available from now on.
malaysia
in my state, no more non-G version
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The official support for indian i9100, is not closed.
Still, the phone will get ICS, confirmed it via Samsung India.
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Can you confirm why 2.3.6 or 2.3.5 or even 2.3.4 not released for I9100 in India?
Also, all online retailers selling I9100 have increased their prices in one day, hinting that I9100 stocks are limited.
I9100G replacing I9100 is not true, Until the stock arrives for I9100 , the"G" series will be replacing it.
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Unfortunately, most Asia-Pacific markets wont be having I9100 anymore. Its already stopped in Malaysia, even proper I9100G boxes are there. They announced it on their Facebook as well. Soon, it will be the same in India.
OMAP is better than Samsung chipset.
Okay, the processor is almost equal to Exynos.
Only Mali 400 is beating SGX540 (I've it good?).
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netchip said:
OMAP is better than Samsung chipset.
Okay, the processor is almost equal to Exynos.
Only Mali 400 is beating SGX540 (I've it good?).
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Wrong. The Exynos chipset is the fastest processor on a phone to date.
The OMAP4430 in the G is not anywhere near as good as the Exynos.
The Mali-400 is faster then the SGX540 by a mile.
The 9100G has inferior performance then the 9100.
khartaras said:
Wrong. The Exynos chipset is the fastest processor on a phone to date.
The OMAP4430 in the G is not anywhere near as good as the Exynos.
The Mali-400 is faster then the SGX540 by a mile.
The 9100G has inferior performance then the 9100.
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OMAP 4430 == OMAP 4460 the last one get 7000 antutu WITHOUT OCing, LOL
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netchip said:
OMAP 4430 == OMAP 4460 the last one get 7000 antutu WITHOUT OCing, LOL
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Guys, guys.... the thread really doesn't make sense if we get back at each other like this.
Being in a community, every one has right to express their views.Be it Wrong or Right.
netchip said:
OMAP is better than Samsung chipset.
Okay, the processor is almost equal to Exynos.
Only Mali 400 is beating SGX540 (I've it good?).
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U are right buddy, Mali 400 beats SGX540.
Also, Exynos was the chipset designed for best phones of samsung. TI OMAP, is comparitively not so new, and nxt gen.
I've seen Mali lose in some open gl benchmarks to sgx 540 in the optimus 3D an when it does beat Mali its not by a lot an I think To has best gpus that's y Samsung used it in the Og Galaxy
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And here i was worrying so much that ive gotten myself a i9100g. After hearing that the CPU was only clocked at 1ghz, and was built with a completely different chipset, i felt cheated. I was also worried about the amount of DEV support that my phone would be receiving...But after reading this thread a little i guess it gave me some confidence in my phone
Is there a reason why the i9100g version was only clocked at 1gz? because ive clocked it to 1.2ghz most of the time...im afraid that might cause problem
Im from Malaysia here.. its a quite a debate seeing galaxy nexus potential users saying the exynos aint that superb compared to the G variant.. but im not seeing any ICS yet to it despite it having omap just like galaxy nexus itself..
And they compared about the DAC.. is yamaha dac is that bad and is the one in the G variant is damn good till voodoo sound applicable? Thats a debate indeed
I own a 9100 non G and happy with the support it has from the devs for now.. best to say that for now if ur flashing custom roms and kernel, go for the original sgs2 instead of the G variant.. thats all.. the rest is too argumentative
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hakgao said:
And here i was worrying so much that ive gotten myself a i9100g. After hearing that the CPU was only clocked at 1ghz, and was built with a completely different chipset, i felt cheated. I was also worried about the amount of DEV support that my phone would be receiving...But after reading this thread a little i guess it gave me some confidence in my phone
Is there a reason why the i9100g version was only clocked at 1gz? because ive clocked it to 1.2ghz most of the time...im afraid that might cause problem
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I9100G , is clocked at 1ghz, is a good thing for "G".
It doesn't overheats, easily, as I9100 variant.
Also, the battery life is better.

[Q] Snapdragon 800: 8974 or 8974AB?

Which CPU does the Note 3 use? Please enlighten me
MSM8974 or MSM8974AB?
MSM8974: Adreno 330 @ 450Mhz and dual channel LPDDR3 @ 800Mhz
MSM8974AB: Adreno 330 @ 550Mhz and dual channel LPDDR3 @ 933Mhz
Most likely the 8974, only the meizu mx3 will have the AB version check anandtech.com that'll have all the info on the Soc. It does however have a low power radio which should save battery.
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That's an interesting question. If there's a "better" S-800 it would be odd that with Samsung's purchasing power with Qualcomm that they wouldn't use it in their flagship and allow a Chinese upstart to tout a more powerful phone. The S-600 Samsung used in the SGS4 was "AB" so let's hope the S-800 in the N3 is also. We'll find out when Anandtech does their testing. This is from their review of the SGS4...
That brings us to the Galaxy S 4. It's immediately apparent that something is different here because Samsung is shipping the Snapdragon 600 at a higher frequency than any other OEM. The Krait 300 cores in SGS4 can run at up to 1.9GHz vs. 1.7GHz for everyone else. Curiously enough, 1.9GHz is the max frequency that Qualcomm mentioned when it first announced Snapdragon 600.
Samsung is obviously a very large customer, so at first glance we assumed it could simply demand a better bin of Snapdragon 600 than its lower volume competitors. Looking a bit deeper however, we see that the Galaxy S 4 uses something different entirely.
Digging through the Galaxy S 4 kernel source we see references to an APQ8064AB part. As a recap, APQ8064 was the first quad-core Krait 200 SoC with no integrated modem, more commonly referred to as Snapdragon S4 Pro. APQ8064T was supposed to be its higher clocked/Krait 300 based successor that ended up with the marketing name Snapdragon 600. APQ8064AB however is, at this point, unique to the Galaxy S 4 but still carries the Snapdragon 600 marketing name.
If we had to guess, we might be looking at an actual respin of the APQ8064 silicon in APQ8064AB. Assuming Qualcomm isn't playing any funny games here, APQ8064AB may simply be a respin capable of hitting higher frequencies. We'll have to keep a close eye on this going forward, but it's clear to me that the Galaxy S 4 is shipping with something different than everyone else who has a Snapdragon 600 at this point.​
The one I played with had the AB S800.
Fingers crossed!
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The one I played with had the AB S800.
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The wiki snapdragon chipset shows the AB s800 only in xiaomi mi-3
The official note 3 global site only says 2.3 ghz quad-core processor....not mentioning what quad-core...
so it's 50-50......since they both have identical frequencies...here is for hoping for the best) AB version!
Hopefuly you are right!
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vladleo said:
The wiki snapdragon chipset shows the AB s800 only in xiaomi mi-3
The official note 3 global site only says 2.3 ghz quad-core processor....not mentioning what quad-core...
so it's 50-50......since they both have identical frequencies...here is for hoping for the best) AB version!
Hopefuly you are right!
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He later said this:
Actually I looked into this some more - the network guy I was in contact with said it was the AB binning as it was clocked at 2.3Ghz. I took that as read and hence posted that information here, however I see even at the 2.3Ghz clockspeed it looks like there are two binnings for the GPU speed. Bottom line I can't categorically state this is AB bin, my apologies for that - OP updated.
Here is what the Voodoo Report says, as you can see it depends on whether the 0007 revision corresponds to the AB bin:
Hardware : Qualcomm MSM 8974 (Flattened Device Tree)
Revision : 0007
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The table in the referenced Anandtech article shows the CPU of the MSM8974AB as being 100MHz faster. It shows the MSM8974 at 2.2GHz, and the MSM8974AB at 2.3. Given this, I would assume that the note would have the MSM8974AB processor.
edit: Just checked the specs on the G2 and Z1. Those phones list their CPU speeds at 2260 MHz and 2200MHz respectively and both of them have the S800. Samsung lists the Note 3's CPU at 2.3GHz.
Can anyone who has received their s800 note3 please confirm whether or not the note 3 carries the 8974AB soc? I'm really interested to see if they added AB soc like they did with the S4...
servantz said:
Can anyone who has received their s800 note3 please confirm whether or not the note 3 carries the 8974AB soc? I'm really interested to see if they added AB soc like they did with the S4...
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Are you sure that S4 has AB? Because if it did then it will be a paranoia not to do the same thing on Note 3 especially that Note 3 is more suited for this tweaked processor due to its thermal advantages over S4. Lets see....
SAVVAS. said:
Are you sure that S4 has AB? Because if it did then it will be a paranoia not to do the same thing on Note 3 especially that Note 3 is more suited for this tweaked processor due to its thermal advantages over S4. Lets see....
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Yeah, I am sure that the S4 uses the 8064AB soc. It's well documented on Wikipedia, XDA, etc. Samsung has already set the precedent of using the AB soc in the S4 so I would be surprised if they did not utilize the 8974AB in the Note 3. I'm fairly certain they did use the AB soc in the Note but I still am waiting for someone with a N9005 to confirm. I'm surprised more people aren't clamoring to know this.
servantz said:
Yeah, I am sure that the S4 uses the 8064AB soc. It's well documented on Wikipedia, XDA, etc. Samsung has already set the precedent of using the AB soc in the S4 so I would be surprised if they did not utilize the 8974AB in the Note 3. I'm fairly certain they did use the AB soc in the Note but I still am waiting for someone with a N9005 to confirm. I'm surprised more people aren't clamoring to know this.
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Then that's very good news.I was quite hesitated at first because as far as I am concerned Anandtech and many other tech sites and even Xiaomi in itself promoted/reported Xiaomi Mi3's S800 AB like it was the chosen one and the first on the market and none of them bother to report or had clue that S4 has already the AB variant! Hmm...
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Then that's very good news.I was quite hesitated at first because as far as I am concerned Anandtech and many other tech sites and even Xiaomi in itself promoted/reported Xiaomi Mi3's S800 AB like it was the chosen one and the first on the market and none of them bother to report or had clue that S4 has already the AB variant! Hmm...
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The Xiaomi Mi3 was the first phone (maybe the only?) to announce the use of the s800AB (8974AB) variant. The S4 and HTC Butterfly S use the S600AB variant (8064AB). I really hope the Note 3 has the AB variant of the S800, although you would think Samsung might advertise the soc a little more as it does include an overclocked GPU and uses higher frequency ram. Anyways...someone please confirm!
servantz said:
The Xiaomi Mi3 was the first phone (maybe the only?) to announce the use of the s800AB (8974AB) variant. The S4 and HTC Butterfly S use the S600AB variant (8064AB). I really hope the Note 3 has the AB variant of the S800, although you would think Samsung might advertise the soc a little more as it does include an overclocked GPU and uses higher frequency ram. Anyways...someone please confirm!
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I agree, but Samsung may not want to advertise the S800 SoC too much, because if they say "the S800AB has incredible GPU!" then the Exynos markets would be Plus, Exynos is samsung's SoC brand, and I'm sure they'd rather promote their product over qualcomm's.
The unit in this review doesn't use AB.
See mark 9:30
eustilou said:
The unit in this review doesn't use AB.
See mark 9:30
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:crying: Thanks for confirming. Shame they didn't use the AB soc. Why let Mi-3 have it but not Note 3??
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:crying: Thanks for confirming. Shame they didn't use the AB soc. Why let Mi-3 have it but not Note 3??
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Maybe Qualcomm can't make that many?
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servantz said:
:crying: Thanks for confirming. Shame they didn't use the AB soc. Why let Mi-3 have it but not Note 3??
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This is why.
http://gsminsider.com/2013/09/xiaomi-mi3-snapdragon-800-delays/
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eustilou said:
This is why.
http://gsminsider.com/2013/09/xiaomi-mi3-snapdragon-800-delays/
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Now it's starting to make sense. Thanks for posting this. i found an article somewhere on google that talked about how all Chinese Note 3's would come with the AB variant, but that clearly cannot be the case...still sucks. I am on tmobile so im stuck with the s800 variant. i kind of wish I could get the octo core variant, but i know i wont get LTE and i'm not sure if i would get HSPA+. I've got a preorder in for the note 3 but I'm considering waiting for the new nexus phone. Choices choices....
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:crying: Thanks for confirming. Shame they didn't use the AB soc. Why let Mi-3 have it but not Note 3??
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because Note 3 is much expensive in china, not many people will buy it
and xiaomi has much lower price point at 1999 RMB
also xiaomi has Tegra 4 version this year
so Qualcomm feels NVIDIA will take over the partnership with xiaomi
if they do not offer something real good soc
also Qualcomm is one of the investor of xiaomi
techinsights.com/samsung-galaxy-note-3
I don't know if the site is reliable or not. But it seems that their tear down reveal that sm n9005 is using the AB chip.
Sorry that I can't post links as I am new. but please do take a look!

Will we realistically get development?

With Knox and the snapdragon version coming out. What are the realistic chances of getting quality custom ROMs for our awesome tablets.
thoughts?
Snapdragon? The current 2014 has a Snapdragon. Is there another version of the 10.1 coming?
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The Note 10.1 2014 only comes with a Snapdragon 800 as far as I know...
The currently released version (WiFi) of the GN10.1 2014 has an octa-core Exynos5. NOT the new Snapdragon. Considering just how much coverage went into the big.LITTLE architecture, an the various enquiries and wariness on the parts of reviewers about the Exynos Chip as compared to the Snapdragon, just how many people DIDN'T know about it?
I mean, it's a MAJOR decision maker/breaker for some people!
My thought exactly. I am considering this tablet but am worried that there will be no development since its exynos and not snapdragon.
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I have seen nothing suggest there's a Snapdragon version coming out.
That said, can someone tell me why that would halt development?
AFAIK Samsung does not release any source code for exynos stuff while Qualcomm does release code for the snapdragon processors. But I could be mistaken.
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Sorry, I thought it as common kmowledge. The wifi models have two quad core processors rather than one snapdragon 800 chip set.
The result is a component developers are not experienced in working with and no available source code (?).
The potential of the dual quad core (octa core) is huge! We just need to get devs on board.
Romokos said:
Sorry, I thought it as common kmowledge. The wifi models have two quad core processors rather than one snapdragon 800 chip set.
The result is a component developers are not experienced in working with and no available source code (?).
The potential of the dual quad core (octa core) is huge! We just need to get devs on board.
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Unfortunately, I don't think the price is going to help :fingers-crossed:
Honestly, The Note is the only one of my devices where I never got rid of TW. Not that I like it, I hate it and will theme it out so it's not so ugly, use a different launcher etc.. but the TW features on the note is what I buy the note for. Especially how deeply integrated the S-pen features are. Sure there are other note taking apps out there (lecture notes.. etc) but I always preferred s-note, and now on the 2014 model even more so, s-note is a lot better now. I think using an AOSP based rom on this type of device is kinda a waste but that's just my opinion. I usually will theme it out to look as much as stock android as I can.. All my other devices I'm constantly flashing stuff on. My old note 10.1 has been running the same rom for about a year. haha
ckelly33 said:
Snapdragon? The current 2014 has a Snapdragon. Is there another version of the 10.1 coming?
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Actually, both the Note 10.1 2014 Edition and the Galaxy Note III have an Exynos 5420 Octa Core-
http://www.samsung.com/global/business/semiconductor/minisite/Exynos/products5octa.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exynos
californiarailroader said:
Actually, both the Note 10.1 2014 Edition and the Galaxy Note III have an Exynos 5420 Octa Core-
http://www.samsung.com/global/business/semiconductor/minisite/Exynos/products5octa.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exynos
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You are right.
As far as the OP goes, I don't think there is any word that a snapdragon version is coming out, is there?
As far as I know, Wifi-only versions (P600) get Exynos while 3G (P603) et 4G (P605) have Snapdragon S800.
I have a 4G version and it clearly has a S800 in it.
Now looking forward to get root and remove most of Samsung bloatware...
NM, delete this.
According to this Engadget review
With the 2014 Note 10.1, you'll find yourself using one of two chips: the 3G and WiFi-only versions come with an octa-core Exynos 5420 chipset built in, while the LTE unit features a 2.3GHz quad-core Snapdragon 800.
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http://www.engadget.com/2013/10/01/samsung-galaxy-note-10-1-review-2014-edition/
allan1313 said:
My thought exactly. I am considering this tablet but am worried that there will be no development since its exynos and not snapdragon.
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I wouldn't worry too much....
The previous WiFi version of the Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 was also an Exynos chip, and Development for it seems to be just fine here on XDA.
Mr_Armageddon said:
I wouldn't worry too much....
The previous WiFi version of the Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 was also an Exynos chip, and Development for it seems to be just fine here on XDA.
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Good to know. I think I will wait to see what the new nexus 10 will offer and decide then.
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