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Telstra HD2 (T9193) Canadian 3G - SCREENSHOTS

I see a lot of talk on the forums about AT&T and the T9193, but there's been very little concrete data about Canadian 3G (Rogers, Bell/Telus).
I've been in Australia for the past month, and there I picked up a T9193, and had it on a pre-paid SIM with Vodafone. Apparently Vodafone's roaming partner in Canada is Rogers, so when I got off the plane in Vancouver I -- a Telus customer -- was able to confirm that Rogers works with this phone on 3G.
When I arrived home -- Victoria -- and got my Telus 3G SIM, it started working immediately.
I don't know much about coverage yet...seems solid in Victoria.
So, the phone works with Rogers and Telus (and therefore Bell), so Canadians should buy away!
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Did it come with 6.5.3 ROM? Im assuming you have already flashed it. How much and where did you buy it while you were there? Did it come with the 16GB card installed already? I know that was alot to ask, but I want to get one. since I have ATT in US or considering switching carriers to Tmo when they launch theirs.
Thanks

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How is the reception?

Spike15 said:
I see a lot of talk on the forums about AT&T and the T9193, but there's been very little concrete data about Canadian 3G (Rogers, Bell/Telus).
I've been in Australia for the past month, and there I picked up a T9193, and had it on a pre-paid SIM with Vodafone. Apparently Vodafone's roaming partner in Canada is Rogers, so when I got off the plane in Vancouver I -- a Telus customer -- was able to confirm that Rogers works with this phone on 3G.
When I arrived home -- Victoria -- and got my Telus 3G SIM, it started working immediately.
I don't know much about coverage yet...seems solid in Victoria.
So, the phone works with Rogers and Telus (and therefore Bell), so Canadians should buy away!
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hey man...stumbled across this, and its info i was lookin for. im with bell and was curious if anyone was runnin the telstra one yet...thanks!

vwauditech said:
Did it come with 6.5.3 ROM? Im assuming you have already flashed it. How much and where did you buy it while you were there? Did it come with the 16GB card installed already? I know that was alot to ask, but I want to get one. since I have ATT in US or considering switching carriers to Tmo when they launch theirs.
Thanks
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I ordered mine online from personal digital, out of Australia for $834USD delivered. It came with a 16GB micro sd in the box. I don't know what ROM it had because it was Telstra branded and I flashed it to a WWE ROM & now Dutty's 1.5. It works great with AT&T, my screen has an H on top for the most part since I'm getting HSDPA. I was considering switching to T-Mobile to get it as well, but now I don't have to, and I have it now.

Telstra HD2 (T9193) on Bell
I bought the Telstra HD2 and i am with Bell and the coverage is excellent. Bell will tell you that it is not compatible, but that is not the case. All towers broadcast 850 and 1900MHz so there is no reduction in coverage with the limitation to 850MHz (and the lower frequency bands have better building penetration anyway). I am very happy with the phone I am getting about 6.5Mbps download and 1.5 upload with Bell in Ottawa when i run through the built-in router feature.

blakemurphy said:
I bought the Telstra HD2 and i am with Bell and the coverage is excellent. Bell will tell you that it is not compatible, but that is not the case. All towers broadcast 850 and 1900MHz so there is no reduction in coverage with the limitation to 850MHz (and the lower frequency bands have better building penetration anyway). I am very happy with the phone I am getting about 6.5Mbps download and 1.5 upload with Bell in Ottawa when i run through the built-in router feature.
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Sorry for making an old topic bump.
I am looking for an HD2 T9193 used on ebay, just to end up my contract with Bell. Now i know i can buy one, i was having the same answers from Bell about compatibility. Thanx alot!

Hi all,
Now i got my T9193, i can tell it works partially on Bell's network. I got the ''3G'' on top, i can make voice calls and SMS but ABSOLUTELY NO DATA. Bell told me they use both frequencies UMTS850 and UMTS1900, 850 for voice and SMS, and 1900 for data. Its strange. Maybe because i roam on Telus towers here, this give me trouble big time since 10 years. I will break my contract with them. I have also tried a Telus SIM card in my Telstra and you know what? Everything works. 3G, 3.5G; HSPA (H on top) and data connect and let me navigate the web. Maybe if i could move my house to roam on a Bell tower instead of a Telus one i could have 3.5G....since Telus and Bell share their towers it gives many glitches like that.
Thank you for reading!

Works well on Bell Mobility!
Hi again, finally, got it to work properly, Bell's emplyees sometimes just don't care about foreing phones...

Jammo said:
Hi again, finally, got it to work properly, Bell's emplyees sometimes just don't care about foreing phones...
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Why would any other carrier be? If it's not their phone, why would they support it? Glad you got it to work.

lude219 said:
If it's not their phone, why would they support it?
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Because even though it's not their phone, and they made no money selling the phone, you're still their customer, and you're still paying them for their wireless services...

Spike15 said:
Because even though it's not their phone, and they made no money selling the phone, you're still their customer, and you're still paying them for their wireless services...
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Yea, you're paying for their wireless services, not their undying support for foreign hardware.
It's not their obligation/requirement to bend over backwards and support every phone that comes their way. I mean, hell, most CSRs don't even know how to troubleshoot their own carrier phones, what make you think they have enough exposure/training for foreign phones?
That's like saying that your Internet Service Provider should be held accountable because you werent able to configure your PS3/Xbox360 online. Just because they provide you internet services, doesn't mean it's their job to support hardware that they dont carry.

T-Mobile US HSPA+ Speed !

Holy crap, I knew Tmobile was starting to roll out HSPA+ in this area, Long Island, New York, but I didn't actually think it would be already available
This is what I got today sharing the phone's data through the Wi-Fi Router application to my laptop!
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And your phone isn't even HSPA+ compatible, just 7.2.
I get about the same here. The HSPA+ stuff is supposed to be a bit faster.

Will our phone be HPSA compatible?

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Will our phone be HPSA compatible?
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They are "HSPA 7.2" compatible (which has already been available for a few months). They are not HSPA+ compatible (which is what's just now being rolled out in NY and other markets gradually).
However, as many users in NY are seeing, the HSPA+ turnup adds backend capability that ends up helping out the current HSPA 7.2 users reach the full potential of their connections too.

anyone in
Newjersey? im in nj never not once seen a H or anything and my fone is always in my hand, and i know i enabled it but i dont think i did after the 2.13 upgrade anyone in nj get any hspda?

jiggahj said:
Newjersey? im in nj never not once seen a H or anything and my fone is always in my hand, and i know i enabled it but i dont think i did after the 2.13 upgrade anyone in nj get any hspda?
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You won't see the "H" icon if you just have the stock icons on your taskbar up top...you'll need to install a custom set of taskbar icons before it will appear for you.

sirphunkee said:
You won't see the "H" icon if you just have the stock icons on your taskbar up top...you'll need to install a custom set of taskbar icons before it will appear for you.
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and how do we know if we're getting the HSPA if we're just using the stock rom? is there other way besides installing the custom taskbar?

booo!
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and how do we know if we're getting the HSPA if we're just using the stock rom? is there other way besides installing the custom taskbar?
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word yooo? i mean my coverage is great i just wanna know if i get what im payin for hahah cuz im in i guess metro nj like 10 mins from nyc and near all types of cell towers 07011

danxtian said:
and how do we know if we're getting the HSPA if we're just using the stock rom? is there other way besides installing the custom taskbar?
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jiggahj said:
word yooo? i mean my coverage is great i just wanna know if i get what im payin for hahah cuz im in i guess metro nj like 10 mins from nyc and near all types of cell towers 07011
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word. yes that's a good question...
I'm gonna see if the euro HD2 displays the stock "H" icon...if so then it should be easy to track down where it gets called up and recreate that in the US model.

Most people DON'T see anything CLOSE to 5.79Mb/s down.
The "H" icon in custom ROMs comes up erroneously. (Search, that's in plenty of old discussions in the ROM forum. I see the H daily although it's not here in Chattanooga, TN.) You can't count on the "H" in custom ROMs and you wont' see an "H" in the stock ROM. Speed testing is the only method of really knowing.
The only reliable test is tethering to a laptop or using it as a WiFi router to a laptop and doing a speed test from the laptop. Then you'll know how much your HD2 is pulling in your area, but trying to test on the HD2 its self won't give reliable numbers.
We can only get 7.2 from what I've read, but people in areas with HSPA+ are getting way closer to that 7.2 than people in any other areas. I'm seeing about 1.6Mb/s down. I'm excited about HSPA+ rollout, it gets us in good competition with Sprint 4G speeds. And reports are that the EVO is only showing the low end of those Sprint 4G speeds. So with HSPA+ we may very well be doing better than the EVO on Sprint 4G!

Darnell_Chat_TN said:
Most people DON'T see anything CLOSE to 5.79Mb/s down.
The "H" icon in custom ROMs comes up erroneously. (Search, that's in plenty of old discussions in the ROM forum. I see the H daily although it's not here in Chattanooga, TN.) You can't count on the "H" in custom ROMs and you wont' see an "H" in the stock ROM. Speed testing is the only method of really knowing.
The only reliable test is tethering to a laptop or using it as a WiFi router to a laptop and doing a speed test from the laptop. Then you'll know how much your HD2 is pulling in your area, but trying to test on the HD2 its self won't give reliable numbers.
We can only get 7.2 from what I've read, but people in areas with HSPA+ are getting way closer to that 7.2 than people in any other areas. I'm seeing about 1.6Mb/s down. I'm excited about HSPA+ rollout, it gets us in good competition with Sprint 4G speeds. And reports are that the EVO is only showing the low end of those Sprint 4G speeds. So with HSPA+ we may very well be doing better than the EVO on Sprint 4G!
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Thanks for the info Darnell, I didn't know the custom icon sets were displaying it incorrectly. What's funny is that some sets even show me a "3G+" icon on rare occasion.
I have to agree that a hard-wired test using a laptop is the best way to show how much you can shove down your phone's pipe. I find though that testing from the phone may give a more accurate indication of what your real-world effective speed will be in on-board apps.
I do feel confident too that once more of us are enjoying what these network upgrades can provide on our HD2's, we'll actually enjoy getting asked "Hey, is that an EVO??"
"No. This is faster"

just for the record 7.2 is not all we can get.
as sir has been advising me on the other thread similar to this one.
i have gotten 8.5mbps using hd2 in nyc,ny so either the hd2 is capable of hspa+ or theres isnt cap or block at 7.2
i must say great news ither way. im coming from sprint w touch pro, to a hd2 and do not regret leaving even with Evo coming one bit. T mobile has suprised me with there upgrade over previous years.
edit* i just did this one more time after posting, tethered to mac book pro and got this on a 7mb test.
Your speed: 9003.215 Kbps
Your latency: 0.307 seconds
Transferred 7000 KB in 6.22 seconds
Share your results with everyone!
28.8 kbps dial-up
33.6 kbps dial-up
40 kbps GPRS
56 kbps dial-up
128 kbps ISDN
144 kbps 1xRTT
236.8 kbps EDGE
384 kbps Low DSL
400 kbps 3G ( EVDO / HSDPA )
768 kbps Broadband
1000 kbps Fast 3G
1500 kbps Basic DSL
9003 kbps YOU
im in Soho nyc.. anyone else near me that can test as wel?

Actually the phones displaying H on a custom rom is 100% right, the network is all HSPA regardless of speed right now.
9000Kbps is impossible with a device only capable of maybe 7400Kbps, max. You need to use a different method because mobilespeedtest.com is not accurate. Use speedtest.net

Darnell_Chat_TN said:
Most people DON'T see anything CLOSE to 5.79Mb/s down.
The "H" icon in custom ROMs comes up erroneously. (Search, that's in plenty of old discussions in the ROM forum. I see the H daily although it's not here in Chattanooga, TN.) You can't count on the "H" in custom ROMs and you wont' see an "H" in the stock ROM. Speed testing is the only method of really knowing.
The only reliable test is tethering to a laptop or using it as a WiFi router to a laptop and doing a speed test from the laptop. Then you'll know how much your HD2 is pulling in your area, but trying to test on the HD2 its self won't give reliable numbers.
We can only get 7.2 from what I've read, but people in areas with HSPA+ are getting way closer to that 7.2 than people in any other areas. I'm seeing about 1.6Mb/s down. I'm excited about HSPA+ rollout, it gets us in good competition with Sprint 4G speeds. And reports are that the EVO is only showing the low end of those Sprint 4G speeds. So with HSPA+ we may very well be doing better than the EVO on Sprint 4G!
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And on top of Sprint's so-called 4G network. They rely on Clear and their WiMax Network. Without Clear, Sprint's 4G network would be non-existent.

This is what i am getting with my phone tetherd with usb on my desktop. I am in brooklyn, ny. and i am happy as hell
Just for comparison this is what i get from my home cable connection.
a few years ago 10/1 was my home connection, now i get that on my phone. sprint 4g, WHAT? they should have just gone EvDo Rev B cheaper and faster than there so called 4g

man...
i cant wait to get my hd2 rockin..
these speeds got me feelin goooood...

Here, south of Indianapolis, got 250-310 data transfer yesterday with the Wi-fi
router option and Firefox browser. After being with 70-110 max I was really
amazed. This was indoors and with an average 2-3 bars H signal strength.
Can't wait for further improvements.

Maybe the HD2 has 10Mbps HSPA? That would explain the speed. The specs say otherwise but..
300Kb/s is good.. real good. Especailly when you consider that this network is being utilized by everyone with a 3G phone/smartphone. Sprint "4G" shows off really fast speed but when people actually start to get on the network it's far less impressive.. 3Mbps before the HTC Evo puts it's HD streaming load on the network.

jiggahj said:
Newjersey? im in nj never not once seen a H or anything and my fone is always in my hand, and i know i enabled it but i dont think i did after the 2.13 upgrade anyone in nj get any hspda?
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I live in NJ too... Morganville (Marlboro area) and HSPA is all over here
Edison and princeton areas not so much tho...

ericm115 said:
This is what i am getting with my phone tetherd with usb on my desktop. I am in brooklyn, ny. and i am happy as hell
Just for comparison this is what i get from my home cable connection.
a few years ago 10/1 was my home connection, now i get that on my phone. sprint 4g, WHAT? they should have just gone EvDo Rev B cheaper and faster than there so called 4g
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Something doesn't seem right, I'm pretty positive the HD2 is not capable of 7.2mbps+

Tmobile HSPA+ ("4G") on HD2?

i have searched and found several people claiming to have access to tmobile's HSPA+ ("4G") service with their HD2 running android.
can anyone confirm this? and if so, what are the steps i need to take to access the same network speeds?

malaeus said:
i have searched and found several people claiming to have access to tmobile's HSPA+ ("4G") service with their HD2 running android.
can anyone confirm this? and if so, what are the steps i need to take to access the same network speeds?
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You read my mind. I was wondering the same thing. I know that most of the towers where I live are already ready for 4G. So id like to know myself.

malaeus said:
i have searched and found several people claiming to have access to tmobile's HSPA+ ("4G") service with their HD2 running android.
can anyone confirm this? and if so, what are the steps i need to take to access the same network speeds?
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if u have "H" instead of 3G then... DUH

S3BAZ10 said:
if u have "H" instead of 3G then... DUH
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There is an H for "3.5G" and theres a H for "4G". So H doesnt mean 4G right now on our HD2s.

S3BAZ10 said:
if u have "H" instead of 3G then... DUH
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In that case, DAMN! I have an EVO 4G!! FTW

H on your HD2 doesn't exploit the full benefits of HSPA+... It is better than 3G but not full board HSPA+. The HD2 will never be fully compatible with HSPA+.But our version of HSPA is still a heck of alot faster than 3G, especially upload speed wise. I believe the first T-Mobile phone to be fully compatible with HSPA+ speeds is the G2.

As I understand it, T-Mobile's "4G" is HSPA+ which is considered by many to be 3.5G in technicalities but it is actually faster than Sprints WiMax 4G technology.
T-Mobile only recently started calling it 4G, I kinda wish they wouldnt because I thought it was cool to have 3G that was better than 4G but I cant say that I blame them for doing it from a marketing standpoint because it will attract attention from uninformed comparison shoppers.
And as I understand it, the HD2 hardware supports the fastest speeds T-Mobile can supply so I'm sure that if there is any tweaking that can be done to the kernel to make Android support it then the Devs will take care of it.

The H in the notification bar actually means HSDPA (High Speed Downlink Packet Access) or basically 3.5G or Turbo 3G, more info here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HSDPA
HSPA+ (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HSPA%2B) as I'm aware isn't available in a huge amount of places yet, and I'm not even sure if the HD2 supports it? Would appreciate clarification on the either way.
Does anyone know when UK rollout of HSPA+ is happening?
(I can't post links yet, but you know what to do with the wiki links above)

Apache0c said:
And as I understand it, the HD2 hardware supports the fastest speeds T-Mobile can supply so I'm sure that if there is any tweaking that can be done to the kernel to make Android support it then the Devs will take care of it.
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This is true. The HD2 can support all the speeds, that t-mobile can supply at the moment. But, 4th generation is different than HSDPA.( 3.5g) although it may be as fast or faster, its a different technology if im not mistaken. I cant remember where i read that.
But yes, if you can see the "H" instead of the 3G, you are taking hold of the HSDPA network speeds. "H" is the new 3G.

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The H in the notification bar actually means HSDPA (High Speed Downlink Packet Access) or basically 3.5G or Turbo 3G, more info here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HSDPA
HSPA+ (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HSPA%2B) as I'm aware isn't available in a huge amount of places yet, and I'm not even sure if the HD2 supports it? Would appreciate clarification on the either way.
Does anyone know when UK rollout of HSPA+ is happening?
(I can't post links yet, but you know what to do with the wiki links above)
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From what I understand, most of the United States will have HSPA+ by the end of the year. They have already announced the rollout here in Southern California. All 3G T-Mobile phones automatically support HSPA+ and the HD2 supports speeds up to 56Mbps.
Here is a post about the rollout.
http://androidontmobilehd2.wordpres...hspa-goes-live-with-21mbps-theoretical-speed/
Here's a post showing 4+ Megabit and I think I've seen one that is 5+ or even 6+.
http://androidontmobilehd2.wordpress.com/2010/09/04/more-testing-shows-t-mobile-superior/

with one of the sense builds i hit about 5Mbps...

I just did a speed test and it was 11mbps...

I think there needs to be some clarifcation on this. HSPA+ is NOT true 4G. speeds on HSPA+ are potentially faster than 3G or HSDPA but not comparable to true 4G.
LTE 4G is about 64Mb/sec (but can be up to 100Mb/sec)
WiMax enabled 4G is 128Mb/sec.
The HD2 supports NEITHER of these as the hardware does not exist in the phone itself.

i have had it in my area, and i can say it is damn fast! way faster then 3g. you tube videos are almost instant in winmo. i havnt found android to be stable for more than a day before it locks up, so i dont use it much, but in the miri v22 rom the internet is blazingly fast...except up the hill at my girlfriends house, im lucky to get EDGE up there. im in southern california about 30 miles north of LA. i had been wondering what the H was for a few days when i got a text from t-mo telling me that they had just activated 4G in our area, and that some phones (like the HD2) were already compatable. i would quote the text exactly, but i have flashed since then.

Apache0c said:
From what I understand, most of the United States will have HSPA+ by the end of the year. They have already announced the rollout here in Southern California. All 3G T-Mobile phones automatically support HSPA+ and the HD2 supports speeds up to 56Mbps.
Here is a post about the rollout.
http://androidontmobilehd2.wordpres...hspa-goes-live-with-21mbps-theoretical-speed/
Here's a post showing 4+ Megabit and I think I've seen one that is 5+ or even 6+.
http://androidontmobilehd2.wordpress.com/2010/09/04/more-testing-shows-t-mobile-superior/
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This dudes about as right as it gets. HSPA+ rollout will increase the data speeds of all current 3G phones on Tmobile. Not meaning you will get the FULL benefit of HSPA+ though, it'll just be faster than HSDPA. Phones such as the G2 will have the ability to take full advantage of HSPA+ due to additional hardware\software or whatever. Believe me, I'm in the Austin area and you can tell the difference and if you run mobile speedtest weirdly enough your speeds will increase as you run higher test. But, I've gotten 6-8 mbps easily with various test and if I go up to the 2mb and above the speeds starting showing 11 mbps and up, which I don't believe though. Could be though.

Here is info about it right on t-mobiles website http://t-mobile-coverage.t-mobile.com/#

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This dudes about as right as it gets. HSPA+ rollout will increase the data speeds of all current 3G phones on Tmobile. Not meaning you will get the FULL benefit of HSPA+ though, it'll just be faster than HSDPA. Phones such as the G2 will have the ability to take full advantage of HSPA+ due to additional hardware\software or whatever. Believe me, I'm in the Austin area and you can tell the difference and if you run mobile speedtest weirdly enough your speeds will increase as you run higher test. But, I've gotten 6-8 mbps easily with various test and if I go up to the 2mb and above the speeds starting showing 11 mbps and up, which I don't believe though. Could be though.
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Yeah, he was nowhere close to being correct. NO current tmobile phone except for the G2 is HSPA+ compatible. The HD2 is a HSDPA and the 'H' on your screens means that you are connected to HSDPA which theoretically supports up to 7.2 Mbps as opposed to original 3G which was just 3.6 Mbps. Yes, if you are in an area that is upgraded to HSPA+ you will see an increase in speeds because the infrastructure has been upgraded to support higher speeds, but your phone will NEVER support HSPA+ and will thus never reach speeds above 7.2 Mbps. Which brings me to my next point below .....
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I just did a speed test and it was 11mbps...
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You are a f%$king idiot. Turn off wifi. Your HD2 will not connect at 11 Mbps on a cellular network.

I am not sure if this is on WiFi or regular 3G or H mode.
On my phone the WiFi is turned off, but I am not sure if the ROM has the WiFI build in it .
But it clearly shows on Androit it is lighting fast.
I was curious and then tested it againts a PC, and the HD2 was way faster to execute the tests.
What do you guys think about speed. Is T-Mobile capable of it?
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Apache0c said:
From what I understand, most of the United States will have HSPA+ by the end of the year. They have already announced the rollout here in Southern California. All 3G T-Mobile phones automatically support HSPA+ and the HD2 supports speeds up to 56Mbps.
Here is a post about the rollout.
http://androidontmobilehd2.wordpres...hspa-goes-live-with-21mbps-theoretical-speed/
Here's a post showing 4+ Megabit and I think I've seen one that is 5+ or even 6+.
http://androidontmobilehd2.wordpress.com/2010/09/04/more-testing-shows-t-mobile-superior/
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Is the upgrade in Southern Cali currently affecting data connections now? I'm having issues with consistent data connections on both Android and Windows Mobile, and the Windows Mobile I just noticed today!

so, can anyone confirm HSPA+ speeds on the hd2? HSDPA speeds are nice (PPP) much better than HSPA/HSUPA. just wondered if i could get even better, more reliable connections.

unlocked Dell Streak and Tmobile 3G (voice/data) ?

Hi,
I have never understood the frequencies on the Dell Streak well enough....
Can someone pls tell me if the unlocked Dell Streak (purchased from Dell.com) will operate on both 3G voice and 3G data on Tmobile's network?
I just put in a Prepaid Tmobile sim card and it only works on non-3G voice and GPRS data.
The unlocked Dell Streak works great on AT&T's 3G network.
Thanks!

You bought a US streak, you need to buy an AWS streak to get 3g on tmobile

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You bought a US streak, you need to buy an AWS streak to get 3g on tmobile
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I purchased a "factory" Unlocked Streak which does not come with a carrier plan, not the AWS streak version with the plan. What frequency does the AWS version have that the factory unlocked does not?
I mean, it's supposed to be unlocked right?

'Factory unlocked', aka retail, models are by default the US model, though AWS streaks arnt available as retail type models
US: 850/1900/2100mhz
AWS: 900/1700/2100mhz
At&t: 850/900mhz
Tmobile: 1700mhz

I have the aws version. Its pretty dang cool.
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Vinsane said:
I have the aws version. Its pretty dang cool.
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Do you have a custom rom on it or stock?
I dont have much info at all on cincinnati bell streak roms, and that's the only current source of new AWS streaks. I was wondering what stock rom you have if you're still on stock

Thanks TheManii. And, I am crying now....
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'Factory unlocked', aka retail, models are by default the US model, though AWS streaks arnt available as retail type models
US: 850/1900/2100mhz
AWS: 900/1700/2100mhz
At&t: 850/900mhz
Tmobile: 1700mhz
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Thanks for the info!
Argh!!!!! I am crying now..... I assumed the "unlocked" Streak will work with any carrier, after all, in plain english, that's what it meant to me.... BUT now it does not seem to be the case.
Here's the sw info, and I am on stock ROM:
Android 2.2.2
Baseband GAUSB1A135100-US
Build 15609
What are my options?
Thanks again.

me4tux said:
Thanks for the info!
Argh!!!!! I am crying now..... I assumed the "unlocked" Streak will work with any carrier, after all, in plain english, that's what it meant to me.... BUT now it does not seem to be the case.
Here's the sw info:
Android 2.2.2
Baseband GAUSB1A135100-US
Build 15609
What are my options?
Thanks again.
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Unlocked means that it will work with any carrier that supports the radio bands it uses, unlocking the phone won't change the frequencies it will operate on. Your options are to use T-Mobile without 3G or AT&T with 3G, unless you find another carrier that supports the Streak's hardware.
Buying an unlocked Streak direct from Dell also meant less crud on the phone, no carrier mandated apps or limited settings (think AT&T) and no contract.

marvin02 said:
Unlocked means that it will work with any carrier that supports the radio bands it uses, unlocking the phone won't change the frequencies it will operate on. Your options are to use T-Mobile without 3G or AT&T with 3G, unless you find another carrier that supports the Streak's hardware.
Buying an unlocked Streak direct from Dell also meant less crud on the phone, no carrier mandated apps or limited settings (think AT&T) and no contract.
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marvin,
does this mean i am SOL? i.e. i cannot re-flash my rom to get the AWS frequencies?
thx.

Reflashing your baseband to support new frequencies is as likely as flashing wp7 and expecting it to work.
Simple answer: no
Long answer: if you spend a couple years dissecting the device and learn everything hardware it might be possible, if at all

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Reflashing your baseband to support new frequencies is as likely as flashing wp7 and expecting it to work.
Simple answer: no
Long answer: if you spend a couple years dissecting the device and learn everything hardware it might be possible, if at all
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Ok. Thanks for the clarification.

I have a stock rom... Rooted.. But otherwise stock. Im new to the Streak.
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TheManii said:
Reflashing your baseband to support new frequencies is as likely as flashing wp7 and expecting it to work.
Simple answer: no
Long answer: if you spend a couple years dissecting the device and learn everything hardware it might be possible, if at all
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That's true on the streak. Some phones have quad band basebands (like the streak 7), but unfortunately not the 5.
On some phones the hardware solution is relatively simple, just a matter of replacing the wcdma amplifiers with news ones with the correct frequencies. However the streak 5 needs a whole new wwan chip in addition to the amplifiers.
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Me4tux....
In my experience, most GSM cellular network speeds vary wildly.... even with the same device, location, time of day, etc... I will add this: My wife's iPhone 4 (on aTnT), is HARDLY EVER faster than my factory-unlocked Streak on T-Mobile (seriously). I laugh when the monthly DeathStar's debit hits every month..... Her bill is always $127-something per month....... While mine, with tax, is $68.77. I cannot imagine wanting to pay nearly double for essentially the same service. Just my own opinion / personal experience.
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What I didn't state outright in my above post is that about half the time, T-Mobile's 2G network is absolutely as fast, and occasionally FASTER than aTnT's "3G" network.... Google it, and you'll see that a lot of other people have also experienced this.....
In other words, me4tux, don't return your Streak because the perception is it'll be too slow on T-Mobile.... Sometimes, it may be.... but not the vast majority of the time "It's all good" at half the price of aTnT
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SHildebrandt said:
What I didn't state outright in my above post is that about half the time, T-Mobile's 2G network is absolutely as fast, and occasionally FASTER than aTnT's "3G" network.... Google it, and you'll see that a lot of other people have also experienced this.....
In other words, me4tux, don't return your Streak because the perception is it'll be too slow on T-Mobile.... Sometimes, it may be.... but not the vast majority of the time "It's all good" at half the price of aTnT
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Thanks for posting your firsthand experience. I believe what you see is true. One of my daughters (I have 4!) wanted an iPhone and fled TMO for that. She isn't a happy camper there for sure.
On the other hand, we should point out to the OP that TMO's 3G/4G is much faster than TMO's own 2.5G (EDGE). So he'll still have to cry like me.
I have a Japanese version (Softbank 001DL) and my wife has an AWS version. Both on TMO. I don't think I need to describe the differences in web brawsing speed, but the point is, I went back to using my G1 as my primary phone and use wifi tether to route G1's 3G connection to my Streak.
Actually it works amazingly well. What I see is that my Streak's connection on tethered thru G1 is faster than what I get on the G1 which is directly connected to the 3G network. I don't know why, but it seems like G1 can tether data more efficiently than it can process for its own use.
So if you can't return your device, get a cheap/used 3G phone and tether. Don't forget to buy some extra batteries for full time tethering. G1 batteries are like couple of dollars a piece nowadays.
I hope it helps... Please don't argue like 'Hey, I don't want to carry two phones.' I know that, but this is the next best option if you ALREADY own an incompatible device as far as I know.

Ringochan.....
I think that's a clever solution, however in my case, I would need to have two active SIM cards with the same phone number (because I bought the Streak soley because it can also be used as a voice phone). To sign up for yet another separate T-Mobile account for the singular purpose of accessing their 3G data network (even without voice capabilities on the new account), would be tantamount to killing a mosquito with a sledge hammer..... not to mention then having to carry around two separate devices and pay for a second account/number every month. Perhaps others still may find that a viable alternative.
Personally, I'm going to keep my "2G" Streak.... because it is truly an all-in-one device that, even on T-Mobile's 2G network, runs absolutely as fast (sometimes faster), than aTnT's network at almost half the price
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That works in general with all devices that have wifi.
You could buy a evo 3d and use it on at&t in the same manner. It doesnt matter then the former is CDMA and the latter is GSM as they could both do wifi tethering. Hell you could buy like an ipod and jailbreak and load a voip app and use it like an iphone this way. (there's comparatively few android equivilents to the itouch )
Just that carrying one extra device specifically to use as a tethering device isnt for everyone. I was considering tethering my iphone 3g and buying a desire HD last year but decided against it.
Phone generally tether faster then they can use data themselves. They can only handle speeds as fast as their cpus can make use of it. Tethering means it's simply passing packets from A to B and not doing much inbetween.
My streak can only get approximately 2mb/500kb down/up on wifi to a 15mb/3mb connection because it cant process fast enough to use it

TheManii said:
'Factory unlocked', aka retail, models are by default the US model, though AWS streaks arnt available as retail type models
US: 850/1900/2100mhz
AWS: 900/1700/2100mhz
At&t: 850/900mhz
Tmobile: 1700mhz
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A quick re-visit to the AWS versions of Streaks...
I am currently in Asia (Malaysia) and I happen to come across an unlocked Dell Streak selling for about USD$300 new.
How can I tell if this model sold in this part of the world has the AWS frequencies- 900/1700/2100mhz ?
Thanks for all the help.

Who is using a Verizon G2 on T-Mobile?

I just learned that the Verizon version comes SIM unlocked and should work on T-Mobile and AT&T. Anyone here using it on T-Mobile? What are your results? I know LTE is a no-go, but do you get decent speeds in a refarmed area? I can't find any T-Mobile versions on Craigslist, but there are a ton of Verizon versions for pretty cheap so I was thinking of snatching one up if you guys have had any luck.
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Actually I'm pretty sure u can use lte on Tmo as they use aws bands for lte which is one of the 2 bands the vzw model supports. If u go to the g2 Wikipedia page it shows compatible bands for all varients
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Instead of creating a new thread I decided to bump yours.
While I still have unlimited data on Verizon, I know it won't last forever, so I bought a SIM and activated it on the $30/mo plan. Today is the first day with it, and while I don't get coverage at work which I already knew, GPRS and EDGE seem to work, just very, very slowly. I went into an LTE area and I did not have LTE, but had HSPA+ and as I drove away it switched to HSPA, then back to EDGE. While on HSPA+ I ran two speed tests, pings were around 60ms but the download speed was about 1-1.5Mbps, and upload was well under 1Mbps.
I'm running CM 10.2 (CM11 has BT issues for me), does anyone else use their Verizon phone on T-Mobile and gets better speeds? Last year I bought a Nexus 4 and in a close location I got 15-20Mbps on HSPA+, so I think it's something with this phone.
I also noticed that despite being connected to GPRS, EDGE, or HSPA+ in about phone it says the signal strength is -120dBm and doesn't move.

I think the G2 doesn't have the AWS LTE bands enable yet. Maybe in a future update.

SmiLey497 said:
I think the G2 doesn't have the AWS LTE bands enable yet. Maybe in a future update.
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Turns out I just didn't give it enough time. Running 12b radio and now I can access their LTE network.

geoff5093 said:
Turns out I just didn't give it enough time. Running 12b radio and now I can access their LTE network.
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How much time did you need to give it, and are there any modes that need to be enabled? I'm on stock ROM with 12b but can't seem to get past HSPA. If switch the phone to LTE/CDMA, it doesn't find any service but will find HSPA when in Global mode.
My Verizon S4 would find T-Mobile LTE when switched to LTE/CDMA, but wouldn't find the GSM networks unless switched to Global. Using the phone info app, I was able to set it to LTE/GSM auto PRL, but that app doesn't seem to work for the G2.

willstilson said:
How much time did you need to give it, and are there any modes that need to be enabled? I'm on stock ROM with 12b but can't seem to get past HSPA. If switch the phone to LTE/CDMA, it doesn't find any service but will find HSPA when in Global mode.
My Verizon S4 would find T-Mobile LTE when switched to LTE/CDMA, but wouldn't find the GSM networks unless switched to Global. Using the phone info app, I was able to set it to LTE/GSM auto PRL, but that app doesn't seem to work for the G2.
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I think it was just because I was in a poor 4G/LTE coverage area. Later that day I went into the city and it jumped right to LTE.

geoff5093 said:
I think it was just because I was in a poor 4G/LTE coverage area. Later that day I went into the city and it jumped right to LTE.
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Gotcha, but this was using CM10, correct?

TJBunch1228 said:
I just learned that the Verizon version comes SIM unlocked and should work on T-Mobile and AT&T. Anyone here using it on T-Mobile? What are your results? I know LTE is a no-go, but do you get decent speeds in a refarmed area? I can't find any T-Mobile versions on Craigslist, but there are a ton of Verizon versions for pretty cheap so I was thinking of snatching one up if you guys have had any luck.
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I had some odd connection display issues with the stock rom from verizon.
It seems to try to check for it cdma network. And the annoying ?Sim Simbol.
I just flashed the t-mobile stock rom with the flex patch.
Been using it as if its a tmobile phone.
Blazingfast stable and it was dirt cheap.
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So I've got a similar question, but if I got a verizon version of this phone (due to cost - the verizon one sells for ~30-50 cheaper) can I use it with straight talk for data/talking/text/mms/etc.? Or does ONLY data work when using an ATT/T Mobile sim?
My plan is to use the phone with a ATT straight talk sim card.

This is a nice bit of information considering ill be switching to T-mobile next month... so your telling me i just pop a T-mo sim in this g2 and boom thats the end of it?

Germanese said:
I had some odd connection display issues with the stock rom from verizon.
It seems to try to check for it cdma network. And the annoying ?Sim Simbol.
I just flashed the t-mobile stock rom with the flex patch.
Been using it as if its a tmobile phone.
Blazingfast stable and it was dirt cheap.
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Can I buy this model of Swappa and just use it right away? I don't know if I can tell if locked or not with any of Verizon devices.. it's my first time and I want to this phone soon on t-mobile as soon I cancel sprint.

SupremerosesXO said:
Can I buy this model of Swappa and just use it right away? I don't know if I can tell if locked or not with any of Verizon devices.. it's my first time and I want to this phone soon on t-mobile as soon I cancel sprint.
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Yes u can. Just bypass the activation screen with that "volume upvdown combo"(search for instructions) and u can use with verizon stock rom.
No sim unlock needed.
Flashing will make it easier to deal with stock bloatware.
Since verizon ware is pretty deep integrated.
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Cyko.Tech67 said:
This is a nice bit of information considering ill be switching to T-mobile next month... so your telling me i just pop a T-mo sim in this g2 and boom thats the end of it?
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Pretty much. I been using 3 generation verizon phones now on tmo.
Customer service is always puzzled.

Germanese said:
Yes u can. Just bypass the activation screen with that "volume upvdown combo" and u cam use with verizon stock rom.
No sim unlock needed.
Flashing will make it easier to deal with stock bloatware.
Since verizon ware is pretty deep integrated.
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Pretty much. I been using 3 generation verizon phones now on tmo.
Customer service is always puzzled.
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That's great! Thanks for the Info!

I'm excited now, I will get verizon G2.. I always wanted to G2 since it came out but I had Optimus G in April 2013.. their service sucks ass >.< I just wanted a better coverage since in Hampton Roads there's more Verizon and T-mobile LTE coverage. Will it work with LTE correct? I'm thinking if it doesn't have LTE I can just pop in straight talk sim? sorry I am a total noob lol

SupremerosesXO said:
I'm excited now, I will get verizon G2.. I always wanted to G2 since it came out but I had Optimus G in April 2013.. their service sucks ass >.< I just wanted a better coverage since in Hampton Roads there's more Verizon and T-mobile LTE coverage. Will it work with LTE correct? I'm thinking if it doesn't have LTE I can just pop in straight talk sim? sorry I am a total noob lol
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Flash the Stock T-Mobile Rom and Patch it with the Flex Patch.
I am getting stable LTE 4G. 3G where no LTE present.
I don't know if I was on LTE on Verizon rom, I couldn't tell the antenna indication apart LOL

Germanese said:
I had some odd connection display issues with the stock rom from verizon.
It seems to try to check for it cdma network. And the annoying ?Sim Simbol.
I just flashed the t-mobile stock rom with the flex patch.
Been using it as if its a tmobile phone.
Blazingfast stable and it was dirt cheap.
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Can you tell me if you are getting HSPA+ in non-refarmed areas? Thinking of picking one up but not sure if I'll get HSPA+ in the 1700 areas... Just not a lot of 1900 around here.
THANK YOU SO MUCH! Nobody wants to seem to answer this... I'd love it if you could.

KlausWillSeeYouNow said:
Can you tell me if you are getting HSPA+ in non-refarmed areas? Thinking of picking one up but not sure if I'll get HSPA+ in the 1700 areas... Just not a lot of 1900 around here.
THANK YOU SO MUCH! Nobody wants to seem to answer this... I'd love it if you could.
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I think It uses 1700 for the 4G ?
But when i venture towards Louisiana I loose stable 4G and i get 3G. (But then its like Ghost town of GSM towers there)
I reside in Houston Area at the moment where most parts of it are 4G/H+/LTE
The Version i want to get my hands on is the D805 it seems to match 2 antennas from T-Mobile if its the same mhz no idea.

Germanese said:
I think It uses 1700 for the 4G ?
But when i venture towards Louisiana I loose stable 4G and i get 3G. (But then its like Ghost town of GSM towers there)
I reside in Houston Area at the moment where most parts of it are 4G/H+/LTE
The Version i want to get my hands on is the D805 it seems to match 2 antennas from T-Mobile if its the same mhz no idea.
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Wow... Thanks so much. I really appreciate it.
The funny thing is even the specifications for the T-Mobile variant say nothing about 1700 either. They only talk about 1900. Yet, mine obviously works in non-refarmed areas.
You don't notice that you can't get HSPA+ less than anyone with a T-Mo device, right? All I want is for it to work just as well, not better.

KlausWillSeeYouNow said:
Wow... Thanks so much. I really appreciate it.
The funny thing is even the specifications for the T-Mobile variant say nothing about 1700 either. They only talk about 1900. Yet, mine obviously works in non-refarmed areas.
You don't notice that you can't get HSPA+ less than anyone with a T-Mo device, right? All I want is for it to work just as well, not better.
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It wouldn't work any worse than a Normal Tmobile phone from what I have noticed.
It does work better than a AT&T iPhone 4S variant used on Tmobile when it comes to Data.
It seems to be getting about the same performance in Data than the iPhone 5 T-Mobile Variant.
There are areas where the iPhone 5 Picks up 4G faster, there are areas where LG G2 is Faster in Download speed. (Basic Difference between phones)
But normal use I have no issues, I have not taken LG G2 on an international Trip yet.
I do use 4G Data Alot I jsut reached my 2gb mark for the month with 8 days to go.