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4G on HD-2 with T-Mobile

Locally there's some HD-2 seller's on craigslist that claim that their HD-2's are connecting to the New T-Mo 4G network.
For example: http://orlando.craigslist.org/mob/2168051796.html
Is it true? I am using the Nexus One but I am considering seriously buying a HD-2 because they are selling cheap these days.
Just want some clarification.
Thanks.

Doubtful, the HD2 is not 4g capeable to my knowledge. I know T-Mobile has renamed their data packages to 4G unlimited media but I spoke with a rep last night for another issue and they assured me that this don't mean you will recieve 4G and you would need a capable 4G device...the HD2 is not 4G capable.

Nope not possible..Our HD2's can go up to 3.5G but that's about it. There is an H for 3.5G and an H for 4G. The H doesn't mean 4G on our phones. HD2 doesn't exploit the full benefits of HSPA+ It is definitely faster than 3G but not full board..Our version of HSPA is a lot faster than 3G especially upload speed wise

cmarti said:
Locally there's some HD-2 seller's on craigslist that claim that their HD-2's are connecting to the New T-Mo 4G network.
For example: http://orlando.craigslist.org/mob/2168051796.html
Is it true? I am using the Nexus One but I am considering seriously buying a HD-2 because they are selling cheap these days.
Just want some clarification.
Thanks.
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I got a text when they first broke out with "4G" saying that my phone would support it. Since it came out I have noticed a serious pick up in speed. My wife has a MT4G and our speed is about the same. Not sure what the other guys are talking about but from an extremely non-technical point of view, I would say yes based on the text I received and MY personal experience. I also noticed Orlando was on the list and I vacationed there in Dec., my wife and I both got the HSPA+ service while we were there, just FYI. If you are thinking about getting one to take advantage, you will notice a considerable difference.

jayton said:
I got a text when they first broke out with "4G" saying that my phone would support it. Since it came out I have noticed a serious pick up in speed. My wife has a MT4G and our speed is about the same. Not sure what the other guys are talking about but from an extremely non-technical point of view, I would say yes based on the text I received and MY personal experience. I also noticed Orlando was on the list and I vacationed there in Dec., my wife and I both got the HSPA+ service while we were there, just FYI. If you are thinking about getting one to take advantage, you will notice a considerable difference.
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You have an HD2. NO HD2 in the world is 4G capable. Our phones use HSDPA. Their phones use HSPA+. The HD2 does NOT have the hardware for 4G. It will never have it.

rr5678 said:
You have an HD2. NO HD2 in the world is 4G capable. Our phones use HSDPA. Their phones use HSPA+. The HD2 does NOT have the hardware for 4G. It will never have it.
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I think my post was pretty clear in saying I received a text from T-Mobile stating that my phone would support the new network, and was also pretty clear that I said I am not sure if it "technically" is 4G, but I again reiterate that it is a considerable bump in speed, and that is undeniable. To each his own but I love my HD2 on the new network (as I had it well before the roll out) and to the OP, you won't regret the purchase.

jayton said:
and to the OP, you won't regret the purchase.
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That, I can agree with.

Sure, and a edge phone is also supported on a 3g network lol.
When there is 5g, you will even be able to call and use data. Only not at same speeds. Don't misinterpr.
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Thanks for the information guys, I will search for one now. Of course I want it to run Android and not winmo on it.
Thanks added to everyone that replied.

While you will not get HSDPA+ speeds which is Tmobile 4G you do benefit from having a tower upgraded to HSDPA+ with higher transfer speeds approaching the 7.2mbps HSDPA theoretical max and lower latency.
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HectiQ said:
Sure, and a edge phone is also supported on a 3g network lol.
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SO YOU MEEN MAH T-MOBILE WING CAN GET DA 3GEES? HOORAE!!!

To sum up this thread because some people are going to get mislead (or still don't understand) T-Mobile has 3G, 3.5G and 4G, the HD2 is a 3G phone with HSDPA capabilities (3.5) and I believe the HD2 is capable of 7.2Mb down and 2Mbit up.
The TEXT you receive saying you're 4G COMPATIBLE does not mean you're 4G capable, it means that because T-Mobile upgraded to 4G, you can still use the network (some older phones supposedly wouldn't work when they upgraded and they got free upgrades [my girlfriend was one of them who had this happen even though her phone was still working])
The HD2 as said is not and will never be 4G capable, the HARDWARE doesn't support it.
3.5G is more than enough for anything you need on the HD2 (or anything), you don't have video conferencing so it shouldn't matter to you (unless you get or make one of those mirror attachments).
That HD2 you see is nothing special, it's just an MDJ kernel (capable of those 1536Mhz speeds you see) with someone who doesn't know what 4G actually is and thinks the "H" icon means 4G instead of 3.5G.
Either way, get the HD2, it's worth it.

hd2k10 said:
To sum up this thread because some people are going to get mislead (or still don't understand) T-Mobile has 3G, 3.5G and 4G, the HD2 is a 3G phone with HSDPA capabilities (3.5) and I believe the HD2 is capable of 7.2Mb down and 2Mbit up.
The TEXT you receive saying you're 4G COMPATIBLE does not mean you're 4G capable, it means that because T-Mobile upgraded to 4G, you can still use the network (some older phones supposedly wouldn't work when they upgraded and they got free upgrades [my girlfriend was one of them who had this happen even though her phone was still working])
The HD2 as said is not and will never be 4G capable, the HARDWARE doesn't support it.
3.5G is more than enough for anything you need on the HD2 (or anything), you don't have video conferencing so it shouldn't matter to you (unless you get or make one of those mirror attachments).
That HD2 you see is nothing special, it's just an MDJ kernel (capable of those 1536Mhz speeds you see) with someone who doesn't know what 4G actually is and thinks the "H" icon means 4G instead of 3.5G.
Either way, get the HD2, it's worth it.
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I said the very same thing you just said in a shorter post and I got the bull**** "I was clear" response.

rr5678 said:
I said the very same thing you just said in a shorter post and I got the bull**** "I was clear" response.
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Maybe mine will get 5G when it rolls out in like 4 years.

hd2k10 said:
Maybe mine will get 5G when it rolls out in like 4 years.
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Naah, we gotta hope our HD2s live long and we can get 10G

rr5678 said:
Naah, we gotta hope our HD2s live long and we can get 10G
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True, maybe someone on Craigslist will find the setting to unlock our Quad-Core 28nm ultra-low power consumption processor that is hidden beneath secret features!

Only Edge working on EU LEO in the USA T-Mobile Network Why???
Hi Guys,
I have a speed problem on my HD2 while I am connected to the US T-Mobile network. (In Germany I have O2 everything is working fine.) I bought a prepayed sim card at the Time Square New York. My HD2 was original from Germany T-Mobile. I know there are 2 different HD2, a US version and a European version.
I have this Bootloader running:
PB81100 HX-BC
SPL-3.03.000 XE
MicroP(LED) 0x05
MicroP(TOUCH) 0x40
My Radio is:
R 2.15.50.14
Protokoll Version:
G 15.42.50.11U
3.14.04666
My Rom is:
Artemis 54.0 GER
I also use Android from SD-Card there I have the same speed "only Edge"
I think I need a diffrent Radio to get connected to the T-Mobile US, am I right? I understand your discussion here about the speed 3G or 4G. I would be happy with 3G even if the network provide 4G. So that is not my problem. Is there somebody who had the same problem? Or does anybody know how to get the US T-Mobile running fast Data connection on a EU LEO??
Thank you for help.
dyoll

usually an andriod built would tell u the requirements and which radio u have to have to use their built. i dink ur radio is fine believe mines is that version

I am downloading the T-Mobile US Stock ROM 3.14.1 from this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=655653
It takes some time with "Edge"
Do you guys think I can flash a T-Mobile US Stock on my EU Leo?

dyoll said:
I am downloading the T-Mobile US Stock ROM 3.14.1 from this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=655653
It takes some time with "Edge"
Do you guys think I can flash a T-Mobile US Stock on my EU Leo?
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I don't think so, because the EU models have less internal RAM so a stock Tmobile ROM won't fit, unless someone out there cooked it down to use extended partitions. However there are many really good ROMs that will work on your machine. I"m running DL DesireZ, and very happy with it.

AT&T HSPA+ vs Verizon/AT&T LTE - Nexus 4 worth the sacrifice?

I'm currently on T-Mobile and frustrated with reception in my area. I'm not knocking the company, it just isn't working for me. So I'm looking at switching next month and the Nexus 4 is one of my favorite phone options on the market.
My experience with the Nexus 7 has been pretty excellent. My one major holdup with the Nexus 4 is its lack of LTE. I am wondering if anyone has switched FROM an LTE phone to the Nexus 4. If you have, could you offer some impressions of how the difference in speed affects you - if at all?

Yes, and doesn't affect me... I think lte is a want, not a need. Sure, lte is nice if you download large files or stream video, but for everything I need, HSPA+ is great for me...
And I'm getting 4-12Mbps down in Denver. (T-Mobile was much slower when I tried it with my Gnex).
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Edit: you can also get a straight talk at&t Sim for a month to see how at&t is in your area... It'd cost ya $45 to try that...
Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 2

Went from first LTE phone with no one on the network to T-Mobile HSPA+, has not been a big deal at all.
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Not having the luck that some of you guys are having.
I have a ****berry that has H+. Took the SIM out and popped it into the GN4. No connection. Rebooted, connection came up fine. Calls, SMS, and data (gmail, web, apps, etc) all work fine. However, speedtest will not connect to do a speed test stating "network communication issues"
I went into the network selection and it shows two AT&T networks. Connecting to the upper one works fine, connecting to the lower one does not work.
Any ideas?

I'm in the Chicago area and at&t's LTE is very inconsistent with speeds, so going to hspa+ isn't a huge deal.
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I really don't think it is something anyone can answer for you since it depends so much on your area. It sucks there is no easy way to test every carriers reception in your area.
I personally just swapped from my GN on Verizon, in the Phoenix area (ie not the middle of nowhere). Granted outside, I'd sometimes see 14M+, but indoors, the GN would do like 1-3M down, or constantly be switching to 3G or just randomly losing its signal. Now granted, part (or most) of that could have been the radio's in the GN and not Verizon's network, but so far my N4 on T-Mobile is doing a constant 6-12M everywhere. I'm pretty satisfied so far.

I have a ipad 3 lte iphone 5 lte, and yes i can feel the difference, i get 40 to 50 mbps on lte... I might get 15 mbps on my Nexus 4 on dc-hspa+... Which is not that bad... Ill live with it, it's more than enough for streaming hd or whatever the hell you wanna do wirelessly.
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First I must say I have never had 4G LTE so I can't speak to the differences between the two technologies. I have AT&T 4G (3.5G) and have been trying the T-Mobile $30 4G prepaid plan. Both plans seem to offer me similar speeds, ranging between 6Mbps to 12Mbps and that is fine for me. The T-mobile plan seems to have more latency issues. But anyway, I don't really see what the big deal with LTE is. I mean, yeah, I can brag and say i get 70+Mbps, but doesn't that mean you will hit the limits on the "unlimited" plans faster and be throttled down? I mean really, I don't plan on downloading massive files, doing bit torrent or file sharing, I save that for home. The speeds I get now are fine for streaming Netflix and music and even Skype. So, when I was considering the Nexus 4G, the lack of LTE was not an issue for me at all. Love my Nexus 4!

ynnek63 said:
First I must say I have never had 4G LTE so I can't speak to the differences between the two technologies. I have AT&T 4G (3.5G) and have been trying the T-Mobile $30 4G prepaid plan. Both plans seem to offer me similar speeds, ranging between 6Mbps to 12Mbps and that is fine for me. The T-mobile plan seems to have more latency issues. But anyway, I don't really see what the big deal with LTE is. I mean, yeah, I can brag and say i get 70+Mbps, but doesn't that mean you will hit the limits on the "unlimited" plans faster and be throttled down? I mean really, I don't plan on downloading massive files, doing bit torrent or file sharing, I save that for home. The speeds I get now are fine for streaming Netflix and music and even Skype. So, when I was considering the Nexus 4G, the lack of LTE was not an issue for me at all. Love my Nexus 4!
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What are you doing other than selecting LTE from the phone info screen to get it to connect?
If I switch to LTE and reboot it boots as WCDMA as discussed here. I've tried all the usual options such as airplane mode etc to get it. The only thing I'm left with is thinking that my SIM may not support LTE as ATT like to give out an LTE SIM, but not sure if this is really needed.

gotzaDroid said:
I'm in the Chicago area and at&t's LTE is very inconsistent with speeds, so going to hspa+ isn't a huge deal.
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In Chicago AT&T is the worst possible carrier you can be on. Their LTE is only 5x5Mhz so it's already loaded and slow, and their HSPA has always been insanely slow. Your better bet is T-Mobile, or Verizon.

integramodder said:
What are you doing other than selecting LTE from the phone info screen to get it to connect?
If I switch to LTE and reboot it boots as WCDMA as discussed here. I've tried all the usual options such as airplane mode etc to get it. The only thing I'm left with is thinking that my SIM may not support LTE as ATT like to give out an LTE SIM, but not sure if this is really needed.
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The 4G I am referring to from AT&T and T-mobile is HSPA+ and not true 4G LTE. Some refer to it as 3.5G. And it suits my needs fine. I am not doing anything in the phone settings.

I came from VZW LTE to Straight Talk AT&T HSPA+ and I can say that I'm actually much happier. The LTE is lightning fast no doubt, but it sucked my batteries down too fast on my phone for it be of any use. I've had 3 different LTE phones and all of them were battery suckers. HSPA+ seems to be much more effecient.
With all that said, I'll take the reduction in speed to get significantly better battery life. No more carrying around a charger all day for me! BTW, HSPA+ is more than plenty to stream HD content and that will please the majority of people.

It would mostly depend on your area. On my Skyrocket as fast as LTE blasting through bandwidth is as fast as it drains the battery. On my N4 I can browse, load the pages pretty fine. Granted LTE will have better ping and/or bandwidth in a congested area but for the things I use: Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, Tapatalk, Flipboard, Pandora, Google Talk/+/Hangout (video chat) etc.. those have all been loading fine and don't notice much of difference.
Now if I'll be downloading a large file then yeah thats where LTE will shine. One day my CM10 build was crapping up and I downloaded the next build in a few minutes and that saved me some time but as far as small instances as just browsing webpages I can do fine with HSPA+.
I'm in an area where I get about:
30/30 LTE
8/1 HSPA+

Recently AT&T turned on LTE in my area and I can tell you there is a noticeable difference on my s3. Using just HSPA+ I pretty much top out at 5-6Mbps but speed tests on LTE see incredible! I can usually get around 22Mbps. For some things I do (Netflix, etc.) it is a noticeable difference and totally worth it.
Though it is great in my area I know it depends heavily on where you live. As more users tax the system I'm sure speeds well be affected even where I live.
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computerslayer said:
I'm currently on T-Mobile and frustrated with reception in my area. I'm not knocking the company, it just isn't working for me. So I'm looking at switching next month and the Nexus 4 is one of my favorite phone options on the market.
My experience with the Nexus 7 has been pretty excellent. My one major holdup with the Nexus 4 is its lack of LTE. I am wondering if anyone has switched FROM an LTE phone to the Nexus 4. If you have, could you offer some impressions of how the difference in speed affects you - if at all?
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I came from a Galaxy S2 Skyrocket and I can't really say it matters that much. This phone is so fast and so smooth that the loss of LTE is now just an afterthought. I was very worried about this though before I got my Nexus 4. I'm am so glad I made the jump and bought this phone. Trust me if u choose to not buy this phone cause of it not having LTE u are making a huge mistake.
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well, i had Sprint, and because they had slow 3G i went with Vz.... and loved LTE.... but since they are assholes and treat their customers like **** i went ahead and left them after 7 months... my exit was the Nexus 4 with TMo... i do not regret it one bit...
at my work, i had 3G ~100kb connection on sprint and also Vz... if i went outside i had 4G LTE... my nexus 4 gets H+ 7mb connection at the same location.
heres a screenshots of my GNEX and N4 compared... for real world use, its great! no regrets
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oh yeah... one thing i have been noticing... and dont know is if its like that with TMo.... but i jump from 3G to H often.. like all the time... but not while using it... all this on areas of full bars
for example..i unlock phone and it says 3G.... when i start messing with it and click an app, it inmediately switches to H.... and stays there...
i dont know yet if the phone does it on purpose to conserve battery, but it doesnt bother me yet since it has yet to take long to switch or be bad reception.

Using t-mobile H+
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milan03 said:
In Chicago AT&T is the worst possible carrier you can be on. Their LTE is only 5x5Mhz so it's already loaded and slow, and their HSPA has always been insanely slow. Your better bet is T-Mobile, or Verizon.
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I have to ask, are you actually in Chicago? I live close to the border of Wisconsin, work in the north suburbs, have family that I visit in the west suburbs and the actual city of Chicago and I've never had an issue with att. I see LTE speeds from about 5-30 Mbps and hspa+ is about 2-5 usually. I came from sprint, which was absolutely terrible. I've tried T-Mobile, which had more dead zones than att but similar speeds, and no experience with Verizon.
I'm not trying to get into a pissing contest, but what are you basing your comment on?
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[Q] Best Options for Contract-Free in Chicago?

I'll be moving from Shanghai, China, to Chicago, IL, in three weeks. I'm working on figuring out all of the logistical aspects of my move, and one thing I need to sort out is my mobile carrier situation. The most talked about options I see are T-Mobile, ATT pre-paid, and Straight Talk (I might be missing some other options). I've been reading through many threads trying to get information, and I've seen a lot of conflicting information. I think a lot of it comes from people having different needs and priorities. Anyway, I'd like some clarity and some suggestions.
I'm looking for a good deal, but I also want excellent, reliable service. I use almost no minutes. I text some. My primary resource is data. I ported my number to Google Voice when I moved to China, so I am very comfortable using that as my primary method of communicating, along with Hangouts and Whatsapp. I'll also have about a 45 minute commute each way to work on the train every day, so I will be streaming music and browsing a lot. Having hotspot capabilities for my wifi-only N7 would be a plus, but I don't consider it essential. My employer can get me a discount with ATT, but I'm not sure about T-Mobile.
What do you recommend? Why? What have you learned that might be useful to someone coming in? Doesn't need to be Chicago-specific, but that would certainly help. Thanks for your help.

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I'll be moving from Shanghai, China, to Chicago, IL, in three weeks. I'm working on figuring out all of the logistical aspects of my move, and one thing I need to sort out is my mobile carrier situation. The most talked about options I see are T-Mobile, ATT pre-paid, and Straight Talk (I might be missing some other options). I've been reading through many threads trying to get information, and I've seen a lot of conflicting information. I think a lot of it comes from people having different needs and priorities. Anyway, I'd like some clarity and some suggestions.
I'm looking for a good deal, but I also want excellent, reliable service. I use almost no minutes. I text some. My primary resource is data. I ported my number to Google Voice when I moved to China, so I am very comfortable using that as my primary method of communicating, along with Hangouts and Whatsapp. I'll also have about a 45 minute commute each way to work on the train every day, so I will be streaming music and browsing a lot. Having hotspot capabilities for my wifi-only N7 would be a plus, but I don't consider it essential. My employer can get me a discount with ATT, but I'm not sure about T-Mobile.
What do you recommend? Why? What have you learned that might be useful to someone coming in? Doesn't need to be Chicago-specific, but that would certainly help. Thanks for your help.
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Due to the nature of Chicago (high volume), none of the carriers would be classified as excellent, reliable service. It also depends on your commute as the trains usually get worse service to begin with.
I would definitely look into the discount but I hung out with my friends yesterday is various spots around the loop. I have tmobile and the other two have verizon and att (these last two have pretty abysmal contract free plans). I got better speeds at every location and ATT was consistently in the middle. Verizon is garbage is the city.
Now, if you'll be traveling to rural areas then verizon or att might be better.
Tmoble on the other hand just put their LTE live last week. The signal is heaps better than using the H+. make sure you have the flashed .33 radio!

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Due to the nature of Chicago (high volume), none of the carriers would be classified as excellent, reliable service. It also depends on your commute as the trains usually get worse service to begin with.
I would definitely look into the discount but I hung out with my friends yesterday is various spots around the loop. I have tmobile and the other two have verizon and att (these last two have pretty abysmal contract free plans). I got better speeds at every location and ATT was consistently in the middle. Verizon is garbage is the city.
Now, if you'll be traveling to rural areas then verizon or att might be better.
Tmoble on the other hand just put their LTE live last week. The signal is heaps better than using the H+. make sure you have the flashed .33 radio!
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This is great information. Thank you. I'll be living in Gold Coast and working just south of downtown, so I won't be getting rural too often. Would you recommend the T-Mobile Unlimited Nationwide plan then? I'll need to call to see if they offer any discounts for my employer.

Don't go t-mobile.
Go with att go phone. T-mob has almost no signal anywhere there. They data is great, I'll give it that, but no signal.
I have fought with tombile no siginal, data drops, and loss of signal. I rma'd 2 devices, tried multpile sim cards, and nothing worked.
Then I switched to prepaid att go phone. Full signal everywhere I go, and it stays in "H" mode. Unlike tmoble that goes from 3g/h everytime it uses data so there is a 2 second delay, then if you don't get that your getting "E" but t-mobile won't let data go through on "E" mode, even though they say they do.
ATT, $60 month, unlimited talk text, and 2gb of data. Then $10 for each addtional gb of data. You won't be dissappointed.
I went through all the hassles so you can get good service.

Looks as if it's not a straight discount if I go with ATT through my employer, but rather a series of plan options that come at a discounted price. They are all DataPro Enterprise plans, and they range from 2GB-5GB with tethering options. Prices range from $34-$55/month for these plans. Would this essentially be the same service that is offered with a pre-paid plan? Sorry if that's a dumb question.

i live in chicago and have had them all.
sprint 3g is unusable. never had sprint LTE. someone said recently that sprint added an LTE tower downtown and they had indoor coverage where they used to be dead, but all I know is when I moved to Chicago I had to get rid of sprint right away.
AT&T 3g is almost unusable downtown but great everywhere else. never had their LTE either
verizon is great everywhere, LTE coverage everywhere, decent speeds everywhere. Pricy
I just moved from verizon to tmobile and I am happy. The coverage is not as good as verizon, no question. But I have only been inside 1 building anywhere in the city where I dont have at least 2g coverage on tmobile. The LTE speeds also beat any other carrier in the city. coverage in that one building isnt worth it to me to double my monthly cost.
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Then I switched to prepaid att go phone. Full signal everywhere I go, and it stays in "H" mode. Unlike tmoble that goes from 3g/h everytime it uses data so there is a 2 second delay, then if you don't get that your getting "E" but t-mobile won't let data go through on "E" mode, even though they say they do.
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you misunderstood what you're seeing, and it sounds like you have some isolated issues with your devices that arent relevant to the carrier. my nexus drops from h+ to 3g to conserve battery when data isnt active. it doesnt take 2 seconds to switch back, its instant, but occasionally there is a delay of milliseconds for the icon to change.
and EDGE data works for me on tmobile everywhere in the city, including subway

dcd1182 said:
i live in chicago and have had them all.
sprint 3g is unusable. never had sprint LTE. someone said recently that sprint added an LTE tower downtown and they had indoor coverage where they used to be dead, but all I know is when I moved to Chicago I had to get rid of sprint right away.
AT&T 3g is almost unusable downtown but great everywhere else. never had their LTE either
verizon is great everywhere, LTE coverage everywhere, decent speeds everywhere. Pricy
I just moved from verizon to tmobile and I am happy. The coverage is not as good as verizon, no question. But I have only been inside 1 building anywhere in the city where I dont have at least 2g coverage on tmobile. The LTE speeds also beat any other carrier in the city. coverage in that one building isnt worth it to me to double my monthly cost.
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Go Wings! I'm originally a Michigander.
What made ATT almost unusable? Just overcrowded towers?
Do you experience the delays and 3g/h/edge switches that the joker talked about experiencing?

ejchis said:
Go Wings! I'm originally a Michigander.
What made ATT almost unusable? Just overcrowded towers?
Do you experience the delays and 3g/h/edge switches that the joker talked about experiencing?
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yes, when you're downtown with ATT, during workday, you'll have full bars but top out at 1kbit. voice always works though, but can take 60 seconds to place a call. i seriously dont know a single person in chicago with ATT who doesnt hate the data (besides that guy above i guess)
yes, my nexus switches from 3g/h+, but thats as designed. there is no delay at all. LTE is everywhere now anyways.
oh yeah, i know you said prepaid already, but just to second that, note this:
tmobile led me to believe that I would get roaming if i signed contract/went postpaid so I did, but then found out after the fact that you wont be able to roam ANYWHERE in chicagoland because they believe they have full coverage everywhere and thus have no roaming agreements anywhere. i wish i had gone prepaid so i wouldnt have a 2 year contract, but oh well.

I use VOIP for all my calls on T-mobile. I used spotify as my daily radio and it works flawless.
usually 4g/LTE and rarely 3g....Pretty good quality although My speeds rarely hit 20 mps down(more like 5-10mps average) but latency is usually excellent. Upload is decent.

This is all really helpful. Thanks, Guys.
Just to be clear. This is T-Mobile/ATT through T-Mobile/ATT, correct? Not Straight Talk? I don't think ST existed when I was last in the States, so I'm not totally clear on what that is other than that it is a company that uses other carriers' towers.

ejchis said:
This is all really helpful. Thanks, Guys.
Just to be clear. This is T-Mobile/ATT through T-Mobile/ATT, correct? Not Straight Talk? I don't think ST existed when I was last in the States, so I'm not totally clear on what that is other than that it is a company that uses other carriers' towers.
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Someone correct me if I'm wrong but I believe in chi, simple mobile and straight talk are just T-Mobile, but T-Mobile customers get QoS priority.

kthejoker20 said:
Don't go t-mobile.
Go with att go phone. T-mob has almost no signal anywhere there. They data is great, I'll give it that, but no signal.
I have fought with tombile no siginal, data drops, and loss of signal. I rma'd 2 devices, tried multpile sim cards, and nothing worked.
Then I switched to prepaid att go phone. Full signal everywhere I go, and it stays in "H" mode. Unlike tmoble that goes from 3g/h everytime it uses data so there is a 2 second delay, then if you don't get that your getting "E" but t-mobile won't let data go through on "E" mode, even though they say they do.
ATT, $60 month, unlimited talk text, and 2gb of data. Then $10 for each addtional gb of data. You won't be dissappointed.
I went through all the hassles so you can get good service.
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Where are you at in Chicago? I've gotten a T Mobile signal everywhere i've been.
I guarantee your ATT phone goes to 3G when you're not using it. The difference being that the nexus 4 is designed to show you exactly whats happening. The carrier phones usually do the same thing but they don't show it as switching from H to 3G because they don't want to confuse the customer.
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dcd1182 said:
Someone correct me if I'm wrong but I believe in chi, simple mobile and straight talk are just T-Mobile, but T-Mobile customers get QoS priority.
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Yes, considering the price of T-Mobile's service (cheap), it's best to go directly from them since you get priority.

thfreedumb said:
Yes, considering the price of T-Mobile's service (cheap), it's best to go directly from them since you get priority.
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Okay, thanks. That makes sense to me too. Very helpful.
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I also recommend going to t-mobile for your service needs. I live about 1.5 hours away from Chicago and travel frequently. I haven't noticed any issues with the T-Mobile service there, the service is very good in the suburbs and decent in the city.
As for the plan that you should get. There is the $30 a month prepaid for unlimited text, 5GB data, and 100 minutes. Our you could go with the standard plans which I am sure you know about. Good luck!
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THEindian said:
I also recommend going to t-mobile for your service needs. I live about 1.5 hours away from Chicago and travel frequently. I haven't noticed any issues with the T-Mobile service there, the service is very good in the suburbs and decent in the city.
As for the plan that you should get. There is the $30 a month prepaid for unlimited text, 5GB data, and 100 minutes. Our you could go with the standard plans which I am sure you know about. Good luck!
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Oh, that's good to know. I should look into that plan. I don't remember seeing that one discussed before. Thanks.

I also have had excellent results with TMobile in Chicago, even on a 1900 device.
Edit- my average speeds are 18/2 on my S2 and 13/4 with a low ping on my i717, pre LTE. I now get LTE in the Note almost everywhere I go in the city but it doesn't seem polished yet. I just did a speed test on that and got this, I do get a lot of single digit LTE speeds still though and it appears that Chicago T-Mobile LTE is capped at 37mbps.
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ejchis said:
Oh, that's good to know. I should look into that plan. I don't remember seeing that one discussed before. Thanks.
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Yeah, T-Mo did a good job of hiding it on their website.

You can also google 'rootmetrics.' That site will let you check all the major carriers signal strength and data speeds in the places you'll be at most.

Is lte included in that thirty bucks a month plan? The description says up to 4g speeds.
Right now with employment discount I'm paying fifty for the unlimited everything.
Do you just get Google voice or whatever for phone calls?
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I'm getting pretty good T-Mobile LTE coverage in Chicago (at least where I go) on my AT&T Note on the $30 plan, though it still seems a little immature. Download speeds aren't super fast compared to HSPA 42 and upload will stutter during speedtests. I did get pretty good 42 speeds on my S2 here.

Verizon vs T-Mobile

Here, service is comparable coverage wise and getting even better by TMobile as time goes by. Verizon has had good LTE coverage for several years. I don't travel much any more so that is not as big of an issue as it has been in the past.
I'm currently on Verizon and have been with them for a long time. My current agreement is up on Oct 22 and I am going to get the GN3 to replace my still very usable HTC Rezound. So near the end of Oct I will make the change.
So my options are open. Stay with Verizon or switch to T-Mobile
Pros for VZW
o Existing Service
o Existing Emp Discount
o "free" calling with many family members using VZW
o Solid service for both data and voice.
Cons VZW:
o Past devices GN2 for example were crippled
o Locked bootloader
Pros for T-Mobile
o Emp discount available
o Unlocked bootloader assumed
o Devices tend to be full (not crippled like VZW does)
o Less expensive service plan
o Better device upgrade plan.
Cons T-Mobile
o could cost other family members more for calls (don't really care)
o Unknown Service available though it looks good
o ???
I am really looking at porting my number over and moving to T-Mobile...
Curious what others are doing.

dont go to tmobile man. i live in cincinnati and friend has that has htc one x on tmobile and service is terrible. my bionic im using now is faster on 4g then his if it can ever even get 4g. I wont leave verizon cause the lte is so fast and reliable

i live in cincinnati
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Located in Phoenix which most likely has better coverage than many cities..
Comparison chart for Phoenix.... I get better than what is listed on Verizon.
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Located in Phoenix which most likely has better coverage than many cities..
Comparison chart for Phoenix.... I get better than what is listed on Verizon.
Ref:
http://www.techhive.com/article/2039452/atandt-has-fastest-lte-service-t-mobile-off-to-strong-start.html
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It depends on the area. If Phoenix is like Detroit, then you definitely want T-Mobile. T-Mobile absolutely destroys everything else in my area.

Phoenix Area LTE
krelvinaz said:
Here, service is comparable coverage wise and getting even better by TMobile as time goes by. Verizon has had good LTE coverage for several years. I don't travel much any more so that is not as big of an issue as it has been in the past.
I'm currently on Verizon and have been with them for a long time. My current agreement is up on Oct 22 and I am going to get the GN3 to replace my still very usable HTC Rezound. So near the end of Oct I will make the change.
So my options are open. Stay with Verizon or switch to T-Mobile
Pros for VZW
o Existing Service
o Existing Emp Discount
o "free" calling with many family members using VZW
o Solid service for both data and voice.
Cons VZW:
o Past devices GN2 for example were crippled
o Locked bootloader
Pros for T-Mobile
o Emp discount available
o Unlocked bootloader assumed
o Devices tend to be full (not crippled like VZW does)
o Less expensive service plan
o Better device upgrade plan.
Cons T-Mobile
o could cost other family members more for calls (don't really care)
o Unknown Service available though it looks good
o ???
I am really looking at porting my number over and moving to T-Mobile...
Curious what others are doing.
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I have had very good service with T-Mobile in the Phoenix area. T-Mobiles LTE in phoenix is very fast. Here are a few speed test screen shots taken from the Chandler, AZ area. (Only one of the speed tests were taken with GPS on Lat 33.28753 Lon -111.97256)

dixonwa said:
I have had very good service with T-Mobile in the Phoenix area. T-Mobiles LTE in phoenix is very fast. Here are a few speed test screen shots taken from the Chandler, AZ area. (Only one of the speed tests were taken with GPS on Lat 33.28753 Lon -111.97256)
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Until you drive through a rural area late at night and break down, with T-mobile you will be hitchhiking for miles.

krelvinaz said:
Located in Phoenix which most likely has better coverage than many cities..
Comparison chart for Phoenix.... I get better than what is listed on Verizon.
Ref:
http://www.techhive.com/article/2039452/atandt-has-fastest-lte-service-t-mobile-off-to-strong-start.html
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that is surprising. tmobile sucks bad here

I do agree that some remote locations does have poor data speeds on T-Mobile but I have never had an issue were I could not make a call. I travel a lot between Phoenix and San Diego and have never had a problem (Other areas may be different). I believe T-Mobile has come a long way in Phoenix. I made the jump from Sprint 1 ½ years ago when T-Mobile started offering their unlimited data and have been happy with them since. Every person uses there phone differently and I am just giving some information about my personal experience with T-Mobile.

Even if Data is gone - the Voice Calling is Not
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I do agree that some remote locations does have poor data speeds on T-Mobile but I have never had an issue were I could not make a call. I travel a lot between Phoenix and San Diego and have never had a problem (Other areas may be different). I believe T-Mobile has come a long way in Phoenix. I made the jump from Sprint 1 ½ years ago when T-Mobile started offering their unlimited data and have been happy with them since. Every person uses there phone differently and I am just giving some information about my personal experience with T-Mobile.
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I second this - even if data is gone voice calling is not. I have switched to T-Mo - because it is very workable. There is cheaper family plans. There is greater device freedom. Please do not think any device will work. One has to look for the 1700 / 2100 mhz bands - notably - the S4 Google Version and possibly the Nexus 5 will have them.
Now to devices on Verizon - you know how restrictive that is.

It really depends on what kind of price you can get with your discount. I found an awesome discount for T-Mobile (no activation fee, $50 credit, 10% off service), so the Unlimited Everything plan from T-Mobile is $36 cheaper per month (Before the phone is paid off, then it becomes $57 cheaper) than what I'd pay for Verizon's 4GB plan. At that price it's crazy to go with Verizon, despite their generally great voice/data network (IMO). Anything is an improvement over Sprint in Colorado for me, at least
If the difference in price is small, maybe $10/mo or so, I'd opt for Verizon. If the difference is $20+ I'd opt for T-Mobile. If money were no issue, I'd opt for Verizon.

WIFI calling on tmobile is a plus.

I live in the Tampa Bay area of Florida and left Verizon for Sprint (horrible choice when it came to coverage) but now I'm with T-Mobile and could not be happier.
If T-Mobile has coverage in your area I say make the jump. I can't stand Verizon's politics! I believe they were the only carrier in the world to lock the bootloader on the Galaxy S3.
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bp328i said:
I live in the Tampa Bay area of Florida and left Verizon for Sprint (horrible choice when it came to coverage) but now I'm with T-Mobile and could not be happier.
If T-Mobile has coverage in your area I say make the jump. I can't stand Verizon's politics! I believe they were the only carrier in the world to lock the bootloader on the Galaxy S3.
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flat terrain down there, and you should be more worried about getting into a traffic accident by a grey hair or a drunk-druggie or your home or car robbed down there by a thug or Oxy snorter..

oneandroidnut said:
dont go to tmobile man. i live in cincinnati and friend has that has htc one x on tmobile and service is terrible. my bionic im using now is faster on 4g then his if it can ever even get 4g. I wont leave verizon cause the lte is so fast and reliable
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The HTC one has a horrible radio to begin with.
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Wifi calling is a bit of underrated feature. You can travel abroad, connect to wifi and use your phone to call, send SMS, etc... Used it on my vacation in Roatan and it worked pretty well.

I agree, WiFi calling works great. I have found it very useful in the large office building where I work. Cell service in my office has been horrible with all 3 of the carriers that I have been with over the years. Now that I have WiFi calling I have great signal all over the building.

The rezound is an old phone with an old antenna. I had a gs4 that I sold so I can get the Note 3. Currently, I am using a galaxy nexus, and the speeds are not the same. The GS4 speeds are much faster and more consistent. In places I had LTE with the S4 the Galaxy Nexus has 3g speeds. You may want to check on that before making the switch. If you are doing it to save money and speed is no concern, then T-Mobile is your best bet.

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The rezound is an old phone with an old antenna. I had a gs4 that I sold so I can get the Note 3. Currently, I am using a galaxy nexus, and the speeds are not the same. The GS4 speeds are much faster and more consistent. In places I had LTE with the S4 the Galaxy Nexus has 3g speeds. You may want to check on that before making the switch. If you are doing it to save money and speed is no concern, then T-Mobile is your best bet.
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Hey, if any of you feel like it, can you tell me about t-mobile's wifi calling? Is that something they specifically endorse and works with your phone's phone number? Heard of wifi calling before but never used in conjunction with T-mobile.

Wifi calling is a home grown Tmo app that lets you place calls over a wifi connection instead of cellular network. Works great if you get a spotty signal. Downside is it's proprietary like Samsung's TW apps. Once you flash to another ROM you lose it.
To the OP, all I can do is reiterate the point about Tmo coverage in your area. Coming from ATT I love Tmo's prices but I find a lot more deadzone here in NYC. Seems to be a problem with penetration. In my apartment I get 87 dbm ATT signal but zero Tmo without a repeater attached to the window. Many buildings in midtown Manhattan have zero signal which is weird since it should be a well blanketed area. Leaving the city is a crap shoot. But then again it forces me to live life like its 1999 ;p

boshindo said:
Wifi calling is a home grown Tmo app that lets you place calls over a wifi connection instead of cellular network. Works great if you get a spotty signal. Downside is it's proprietary like Samsung's TW apps. Once you flash to another ROM you lose it.
To the OP, all I can do is reiterate the point about Tmo coverage in your area. Coming from ATT I love Tmo's prices but I find a lot more deadzone here in NYC. Seems to be a problem with penetration. In my apartment I get 87 dbm ATT signal but zero Tmo without a repeater attached to the window. Many buildings in midtown Manhattan have zero signal which is weird since it should be a well blanketed area. Leaving the city is a crap shoot. But then again it forces me to live life like its 1999 ;p
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wow, that's really nifty, thanks. Does it affect battery life when it's on? Or in other words does it prevent deep sleep when its running? I'm not sure how it keeps listening for calls over wifi.

Well guys, after 10 years I switch to Tmo

After 10 years on ATT and 5 years on XDA ATT I made the jump to TMobile :crying:. With there official press release on Bootloaders and Samsung intent to take over more corporate land, I just don't see a future mod base with ATT. But I hope you guys don't get stuck with a safestrap only like the Droid X.
See you guys on the other side

A lot of us, like myself are staying with att but using a T Mo phone instead. I can understand leaving though. I would to if they had better coverage.

phobic99 said:
A lot of us, like myself are staying with att but using a T Mo phone instead. I can understand leaving though. I would to if they had better coverage.
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I would be on Tmobile in a heartbeat but my work has a company plan with ATT and they pay for my service. So I'm kinda stuck with them. That doesn't prevent me from getting a Tmobile Note 3 though!

The development for the S4 is now pathetic. It only benefits those on May 2013 firmware (MDL). If the AT&T Note 3 is like the S4, the development will suck. We got lucky the first 3 months with the S4, then it just went down hill. There is still no custom recovery yet for the latest ATT update.
I'm tempted by T-Mobile too, trust me. But their higher bands mean worse coverage, especially indoors. AWS requires a lot of cell sites for proper performance. When I had T-Mobile, having 1 bar of 4G was a good day, it was then EDGE city. They are the only carrier without any lower spectrum.
Hopefully they don't suck by you.

My dad used T-Mobile for the last 2-3 years and recently switched over to AT&T...
On T-Mobile he was getting 2g, 3g sometimes, and half the time no service at all.
This is why I didn't make the switch, ****ty coverage, oh and the reason I didn't buy a T-Mobile note is because I would rather shell out $299 than over $800...

MattMJB0188 said:
The development for the S4 is now pathetic. It only benefits those on May 2013 firmware (MDL). If the AT&T Note 3 is like the S4, the development will suck. We got lucky the first 3 months with the S4, then it just went down hill. There is still no custom recovery yet for the latest ATT update.
I'm tempted by T-Mobile too, trust me. But their higher bands mean worse coverage, especially indoors. AWS requires a lot of cell sites for proper performance. When I had T-Mobile, having 1 bar of 4G was a good day, it was then EDGE city. They are the only carrier without any lower spectrum.
Hopefully they don't suck by you.
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I get what yur saying but by that logic development for us early adopters should be good. Once they get this f/w figured out just dont upgrade. Naturally theres a possibility we may be stuck for a bit but even MF3 got set up with safestrap which is great for what it is. Some would say it re-enforces the argument of "if you wanna google phone get a nexus."
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Bladerunner1825us said:
I get what yur saying but by that logic development for us early adopters should be good. Once they get this f/w figured out just dont upgrade. Naturally theres a possibility we may be stuck for a bit but even MF3 got set up with safestrap which is great for what it is. Some would say it re-enforces the argument of "if you wanna google phone get a nexus."
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See my response here and why I am switching to a T-Mo device..but the future for Carrier supplied devices is pretty bleak, we would forced to go to the developer edition route (aka full price) for any customization options..

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See my response here and why I am switching to a T-Mo device..but the future for Carrier supplied devices is pretty bleak, we would forced to go to the developer edition route (aka full price) for any customization options..
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I get what yur saying and do agree for the most part. My personal plan is to ride this out till tax time when if things havent changed and i have some throw around money cut my loss and get a device full price. I guess the ideologist in me doesnt wanna "jump ship" just yet haha yknow? Still wanna believe in our devs. Like i said though i do agree with yur thoughts on it.
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I tried to switch once about 5 months ago to T-Mobile. Service was absolute garbage.

ya i think it would be good to just get t mobile one and run on att or just get the full price developer one. i had tmobile for about a year, but much better signal with att .what is the full unlock developer model number? i seen some on ebay but wasnt sure on which one is right for usa ? thanks for any help on this .sorry not to take away from this thread

Don't blame you. I left the death star almost 18 months ago and wouldn't switch back for anything. Yeah, the ST sim I use, is on the at&t
tower, but it's CHEAPER by tons. Were I was paying 120+/month for unlimited voice "unlimited" data....I pay 50 bucks/month for the same
thing with ST. I was thinking of actually switching back to at&t's MVNO because of the N3's LTE (vs my current N1) but now that ST has
LTE, I'll just buy a t-mobile N3, and go that route.

I wouldn't switch carriers for a phone at all... T-Mobile has horrible service where I live and work. I'll rather keep paying $200+ for quality service rather than save and have to walk 5 blocks to get service.
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I wouldn't switch carriers for a phone at all... T-Mobile has horrible service where I live and work. I'll rather keep paying $200+ for quality service rather than save and have to walk 5 blocks to get service.
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I am very jealous of all of you guys who can leave AT&T and go to T-Mobile. I wish I could use T-Mobile, but when half my home town is covered in EDGE/GPRS I just can't use them. Knowing I'll never have their 4G at my house because of their frequencies don't reach that far doesn't exactly sit well either. Anyway, best of luck to you guys on T-Mobile. Enjoy your truly unlimited data.

@YellowGTO, sorry to hear that. I think that was a bit impulsive and there is no way Tmobile has better coverage then AT&T. The most I would be willing to do is buy the Tmobile N3. I did not even do that one. I got the AT&T Note 3 and we will see how my mileage goes.
I enjoy custom ROMs, kernels, and recoveries too. I spent most of the time with the Note II with Touchwiz ROMs and loved it. Root is probably the most pressing for me but I can do without it for while. This phone is a beast, I did not think it could get any better but I guess it can.

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@YellowGTO, sorry to hear that. I think that was a bit impulsive and there is no way Tmobile has better coverage then AT&T. The most I would be willing to do is buy the Tmobile N3. I did not even do that one. I got the AT&T Note 3 and we will see how my mileage goes.
I enjoy custom ROMs, kernels, and recoveries too. I spent most of the time with the Note II with Touchwiz ROMs and loved it. Root is probably the most pressing for me but I can do without it for while. This phone is a beast, I did not think it could get any better but I guess it can.
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You're right actually. I have all 3 right now. ATT, Tmo and Vzw (Sprints not even a contender). And while ATTs LTE service is indeed the best. Tmo has pretty much had at least cell service in the same area.. Verizon is and Tmobile are much closer in terms of performance. They actually seem to have the same LTE areas unlike ATT who has LTE everywhere. What Tmobile has going for it is the wifi calls, this is truly a life saver if you do business in any sort of convention centers.
Im still testing and mapping service areas with Signal tracker, so its not concrete yet. If you can manage with 3G+/4G Tmobile is the way to go on the east coast. The service is considerably cheaper, single is decent, and bootloaders unlocked.
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P.S. That WiFi calling gives me AMAZING battery. I will update with graphs at the end of the experiment.

T-Mobile sucks in my area. There's no way that I could switch back to them. Sure, it'd be cheaper. But I hate search for signals. They are better than Sprint, but I'm not a fan of spotty.

YellowGTO said:
You're right actually. I have all 3 right now. ATT, Tmo and Vzw (Sprints not even a contender). And while ATTs LTE service is indeed the best. Tmo has pretty much had at least cell service in the same area.. Verizon is and Tmobile are much closer in terms of performance. They actually seem to have the same LTE areas unlike ATT who has LTE everywhere. What Tmobile has going for it is the wifi calls, this is truly a life saver if you do business in any sort of convention centers.
Im still testing and mapping service areas with Signal tracker, so its not concrete yet. If you can manage with 3G+/4G Tmobile is the way to go on the east coast. The service is considerably cheaper, single is decent, and bootloaders unlocked.
P.S. That WiFi calling gives me AMAZING battery. I will update with graphs at the end of the experiment.
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Wow, it must be nice to have funds to blow:laugh:. I heard about wifi calling and I think that would be the next big thing. We have root now on the AT&T Note 3 so I have reason to venture else where in the near future. Let me know what you have uncovered during your research on this.

linkgx1 said:
T-Mobile sucks in my area. There's no way that I could switch back to them. Sure, it'd be cheaper. But I hate search for signals. They are better than Sprint, but I'm not a fan of spotty.
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Wow, it must be nice to have funds to blow:laugh:. I heard about wifi calling and I think that would be the next big thing. We have root now on the AT&T Note 3 so I have reason to venture else where in the near future. Let me know what you have uncovered during your research on this.
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Yeah with the 5 lines, I figured it would be worth a month or two to see if the move is worth it. 5 lines on ATT is about 360 and tmo is about 210. I figured it was worth the investigation. :laugh: