Holy crap, I knew Tmobile was starting to roll out HSPA+ in this area, Long Island, New York, but I didn't actually think it would be already available
This is what I got today sharing the phone's data through the Wi-Fi Router application to my laptop!
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And your phone isn't even HSPA+ compatible, just 7.2.
I get about the same here. The HSPA+ stuff is supposed to be a bit faster.
Will our phone be HPSA compatible?
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Will our phone be HPSA compatible?
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They are "HSPA 7.2" compatible (which has already been available for a few months). They are not HSPA+ compatible (which is what's just now being rolled out in NY and other markets gradually).
However, as many users in NY are seeing, the HSPA+ turnup adds backend capability that ends up helping out the current HSPA 7.2 users reach the full potential of their connections too.
anyone in
Newjersey? im in nj never not once seen a H or anything and my fone is always in my hand, and i know i enabled it but i dont think i did after the 2.13 upgrade anyone in nj get any hspda?
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Newjersey? im in nj never not once seen a H or anything and my fone is always in my hand, and i know i enabled it but i dont think i did after the 2.13 upgrade anyone in nj get any hspda?
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You won't see the "H" icon if you just have the stock icons on your taskbar up top...you'll need to install a custom set of taskbar icons before it will appear for you.
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You won't see the "H" icon if you just have the stock icons on your taskbar up top...you'll need to install a custom set of taskbar icons before it will appear for you.
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and how do we know if we're getting the HSPA if we're just using the stock rom? is there other way besides installing the custom taskbar?
booo!
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and how do we know if we're getting the HSPA if we're just using the stock rom? is there other way besides installing the custom taskbar?
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word yooo? i mean my coverage is great i just wanna know if i get what im payin for hahah cuz im in i guess metro nj like 10 mins from nyc and near all types of cell towers 07011
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and how do we know if we're getting the HSPA if we're just using the stock rom? is there other way besides installing the custom taskbar?
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jiggahj said:
word yooo? i mean my coverage is great i just wanna know if i get what im payin for hahah cuz im in i guess metro nj like 10 mins from nyc and near all types of cell towers 07011
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word. yes that's a good question...
I'm gonna see if the euro HD2 displays the stock "H" icon...if so then it should be easy to track down where it gets called up and recreate that in the US model.
Most people DON'T see anything CLOSE to 5.79Mb/s down.
The "H" icon in custom ROMs comes up erroneously. (Search, that's in plenty of old discussions in the ROM forum. I see the H daily although it's not here in Chattanooga, TN.) You can't count on the "H" in custom ROMs and you wont' see an "H" in the stock ROM. Speed testing is the only method of really knowing.
The only reliable test is tethering to a laptop or using it as a WiFi router to a laptop and doing a speed test from the laptop. Then you'll know how much your HD2 is pulling in your area, but trying to test on the HD2 its self won't give reliable numbers.
We can only get 7.2 from what I've read, but people in areas with HSPA+ are getting way closer to that 7.2 than people in any other areas. I'm seeing about 1.6Mb/s down. I'm excited about HSPA+ rollout, it gets us in good competition with Sprint 4G speeds. And reports are that the EVO is only showing the low end of those Sprint 4G speeds. So with HSPA+ we may very well be doing better than the EVO on Sprint 4G!
Darnell_Chat_TN said:
Most people DON'T see anything CLOSE to 5.79Mb/s down.
The "H" icon in custom ROMs comes up erroneously. (Search, that's in plenty of old discussions in the ROM forum. I see the H daily although it's not here in Chattanooga, TN.) You can't count on the "H" in custom ROMs and you wont' see an "H" in the stock ROM. Speed testing is the only method of really knowing.
The only reliable test is tethering to a laptop or using it as a WiFi router to a laptop and doing a speed test from the laptop. Then you'll know how much your HD2 is pulling in your area, but trying to test on the HD2 its self won't give reliable numbers.
We can only get 7.2 from what I've read, but people in areas with HSPA+ are getting way closer to that 7.2 than people in any other areas. I'm seeing about 1.6Mb/s down. I'm excited about HSPA+ rollout, it gets us in good competition with Sprint 4G speeds. And reports are that the EVO is only showing the low end of those Sprint 4G speeds. So with HSPA+ we may very well be doing better than the EVO on Sprint 4G!
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Thanks for the info Darnell, I didn't know the custom icon sets were displaying it incorrectly. What's funny is that some sets even show me a "3G+" icon on rare occasion.
I have to agree that a hard-wired test using a laptop is the best way to show how much you can shove down your phone's pipe. I find though that testing from the phone may give a more accurate indication of what your real-world effective speed will be in on-board apps.
I do feel confident too that once more of us are enjoying what these network upgrades can provide on our HD2's, we'll actually enjoy getting asked "Hey, is that an EVO??"
"No. This is faster"
just for the record 7.2 is not all we can get.
as sir has been advising me on the other thread similar to this one.
i have gotten 8.5mbps using hd2 in nyc,ny so either the hd2 is capable of hspa+ or theres isnt cap or block at 7.2
i must say great news ither way. im coming from sprint w touch pro, to a hd2 and do not regret leaving even with Evo coming one bit. T mobile has suprised me with there upgrade over previous years.
edit* i just did this one more time after posting, tethered to mac book pro and got this on a 7mb test.
Your speed: 9003.215 Kbps
Your latency: 0.307 seconds
Transferred 7000 KB in 6.22 seconds
Share your results with everyone!
28.8 kbps dial-up
33.6 kbps dial-up
40 kbps GPRS
56 kbps dial-up
128 kbps ISDN
144 kbps 1xRTT
236.8 kbps EDGE
384 kbps Low DSL
400 kbps 3G ( EVDO / HSDPA )
768 kbps Broadband
1000 kbps Fast 3G
1500 kbps Basic DSL
9003 kbps YOU
im in Soho nyc.. anyone else near me that can test as wel?
Actually the phones displaying H on a custom rom is 100% right, the network is all HSPA regardless of speed right now.
9000Kbps is impossible with a device only capable of maybe 7400Kbps, max. You need to use a different method because mobilespeedtest.com is not accurate. Use speedtest.net
Darnell_Chat_TN said:
Most people DON'T see anything CLOSE to 5.79Mb/s down.
The "H" icon in custom ROMs comes up erroneously. (Search, that's in plenty of old discussions in the ROM forum. I see the H daily although it's not here in Chattanooga, TN.) You can't count on the "H" in custom ROMs and you wont' see an "H" in the stock ROM. Speed testing is the only method of really knowing.
The only reliable test is tethering to a laptop or using it as a WiFi router to a laptop and doing a speed test from the laptop. Then you'll know how much your HD2 is pulling in your area, but trying to test on the HD2 its self won't give reliable numbers.
We can only get 7.2 from what I've read, but people in areas with HSPA+ are getting way closer to that 7.2 than people in any other areas. I'm seeing about 1.6Mb/s down. I'm excited about HSPA+ rollout, it gets us in good competition with Sprint 4G speeds. And reports are that the EVO is only showing the low end of those Sprint 4G speeds. So with HSPA+ we may very well be doing better than the EVO on Sprint 4G!
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And on top of Sprint's so-called 4G network. They rely on Clear and their WiMax Network. Without Clear, Sprint's 4G network would be non-existent.
This is what i am getting with my phone tetherd with usb on my desktop. I am in brooklyn, ny. and i am happy as hell
Just for comparison this is what i get from my home cable connection.
a few years ago 10/1 was my home connection, now i get that on my phone. sprint 4g, WHAT? they should have just gone EvDo Rev B cheaper and faster than there so called 4g
man...
i cant wait to get my hd2 rockin..
these speeds got me feelin goooood...
Here, south of Indianapolis, got 250-310 data transfer yesterday with the Wi-fi
router option and Firefox browser. After being with 70-110 max I was really
amazed. This was indoors and with an average 2-3 bars H signal strength.
Can't wait for further improvements.
Maybe the HD2 has 10Mbps HSPA? That would explain the speed. The specs say otherwise but..
300Kb/s is good.. real good. Especailly when you consider that this network is being utilized by everyone with a 3G phone/smartphone. Sprint "4G" shows off really fast speed but when people actually start to get on the network it's far less impressive.. 3Mbps before the HTC Evo puts it's HD streaming load on the network.
jiggahj said:
Newjersey? im in nj never not once seen a H or anything and my fone is always in my hand, and i know i enabled it but i dont think i did after the 2.13 upgrade anyone in nj get any hspda?
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I live in NJ too... Morganville (Marlboro area) and HSPA is all over here
Edison and princeton areas not so much tho...
ericm115 said:
This is what i am getting with my phone tetherd with usb on my desktop. I am in brooklyn, ny. and i am happy as hell
Just for comparison this is what i get from my home cable connection.
a few years ago 10/1 was my home connection, now i get that on my phone. sprint 4g, WHAT? they should have just gone EvDo Rev B cheaper and faster than there so called 4g
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Something doesn't seem right, I'm pretty positive the HD2 is not capable of 7.2mbps+
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i have searched and found several people claiming to have access to tmobile's HSPA+ ("4G") service with their HD2 running android.
can anyone confirm this? and if so, what are the steps i need to take to access the same network speeds?
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i have searched and found several people claiming to have access to tmobile's HSPA+ ("4G") service with their HD2 running android.
can anyone confirm this? and if so, what are the steps i need to take to access the same network speeds?
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You read my mind. I was wondering the same thing. I know that most of the towers where I live are already ready for 4G. So id like to know myself.
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i have searched and found several people claiming to have access to tmobile's HSPA+ ("4G") service with their HD2 running android.
can anyone confirm this? and if so, what are the steps i need to take to access the same network speeds?
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if u have "H" instead of 3G then... DUH
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if u have "H" instead of 3G then... DUH
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There is an H for "3.5G" and theres a H for "4G". So H doesnt mean 4G right now on our HD2s.
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if u have "H" instead of 3G then... DUH
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In that case, DAMN! I have an EVO 4G!! FTW
H on your HD2 doesn't exploit the full benefits of HSPA+... It is better than 3G but not full board HSPA+. The HD2 will never be fully compatible with HSPA+.But our version of HSPA is still a heck of alot faster than 3G, especially upload speed wise. I believe the first T-Mobile phone to be fully compatible with HSPA+ speeds is the G2.
As I understand it, T-Mobile's "4G" is HSPA+ which is considered by many to be 3.5G in technicalities but it is actually faster than Sprints WiMax 4G technology.
T-Mobile only recently started calling it 4G, I kinda wish they wouldnt because I thought it was cool to have 3G that was better than 4G but I cant say that I blame them for doing it from a marketing standpoint because it will attract attention from uninformed comparison shoppers.
And as I understand it, the HD2 hardware supports the fastest speeds T-Mobile can supply so I'm sure that if there is any tweaking that can be done to the kernel to make Android support it then the Devs will take care of it.
The H in the notification bar actually means HSDPA (High Speed Downlink Packet Access) or basically 3.5G or Turbo 3G, more info here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HSDPA
HSPA+ (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HSPA%2B) as I'm aware isn't available in a huge amount of places yet, and I'm not even sure if the HD2 supports it? Would appreciate clarification on the either way.
Does anyone know when UK rollout of HSPA+ is happening?
(I can't post links yet, but you know what to do with the wiki links above)
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And as I understand it, the HD2 hardware supports the fastest speeds T-Mobile can supply so I'm sure that if there is any tweaking that can be done to the kernel to make Android support it then the Devs will take care of it.
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This is true. The HD2 can support all the speeds, that t-mobile can supply at the moment. But, 4th generation is different than HSDPA.( 3.5g) although it may be as fast or faster, its a different technology if im not mistaken. I cant remember where i read that.
But yes, if you can see the "H" instead of the 3G, you are taking hold of the HSDPA network speeds. "H" is the new 3G.
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The H in the notification bar actually means HSDPA (High Speed Downlink Packet Access) or basically 3.5G or Turbo 3G, more info here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HSDPA
HSPA+ (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HSPA%2B) as I'm aware isn't available in a huge amount of places yet, and I'm not even sure if the HD2 supports it? Would appreciate clarification on the either way.
Does anyone know when UK rollout of HSPA+ is happening?
(I can't post links yet, but you know what to do with the wiki links above)
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From what I understand, most of the United States will have HSPA+ by the end of the year. They have already announced the rollout here in Southern California. All 3G T-Mobile phones automatically support HSPA+ and the HD2 supports speeds up to 56Mbps.
Here is a post about the rollout.
http://androidontmobilehd2.wordpres...hspa-goes-live-with-21mbps-theoretical-speed/
Here's a post showing 4+ Megabit and I think I've seen one that is 5+ or even 6+.
http://androidontmobilehd2.wordpress.com/2010/09/04/more-testing-shows-t-mobile-superior/
with one of the sense builds i hit about 5Mbps...
I just did a speed test and it was 11mbps...
I think there needs to be some clarifcation on this. HSPA+ is NOT true 4G. speeds on HSPA+ are potentially faster than 3G or HSDPA but not comparable to true 4G.
LTE 4G is about 64Mb/sec (but can be up to 100Mb/sec)
WiMax enabled 4G is 128Mb/sec.
The HD2 supports NEITHER of these as the hardware does not exist in the phone itself.
i have had it in my area, and i can say it is damn fast! way faster then 3g. you tube videos are almost instant in winmo. i havnt found android to be stable for more than a day before it locks up, so i dont use it much, but in the miri v22 rom the internet is blazingly fast...except up the hill at my girlfriends house, im lucky to get EDGE up there. im in southern california about 30 miles north of LA. i had been wondering what the H was for a few days when i got a text from t-mo telling me that they had just activated 4G in our area, and that some phones (like the HD2) were already compatable. i would quote the text exactly, but i have flashed since then.
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From what I understand, most of the United States will have HSPA+ by the end of the year. They have already announced the rollout here in Southern California. All 3G T-Mobile phones automatically support HSPA+ and the HD2 supports speeds up to 56Mbps.
Here is a post about the rollout.
http://androidontmobilehd2.wordpres...hspa-goes-live-with-21mbps-theoretical-speed/
Here's a post showing 4+ Megabit and I think I've seen one that is 5+ or even 6+.
http://androidontmobilehd2.wordpress.com/2010/09/04/more-testing-shows-t-mobile-superior/
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This dudes about as right as it gets. HSPA+ rollout will increase the data speeds of all current 3G phones on Tmobile. Not meaning you will get the FULL benefit of HSPA+ though, it'll just be faster than HSDPA. Phones such as the G2 will have the ability to take full advantage of HSPA+ due to additional hardware\software or whatever. Believe me, I'm in the Austin area and you can tell the difference and if you run mobile speedtest weirdly enough your speeds will increase as you run higher test. But, I've gotten 6-8 mbps easily with various test and if I go up to the 2mb and above the speeds starting showing 11 mbps and up, which I don't believe though. Could be though.
Here is info about it right on t-mobiles website http://t-mobile-coverage.t-mobile.com/#
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This dudes about as right as it gets. HSPA+ rollout will increase the data speeds of all current 3G phones on Tmobile. Not meaning you will get the FULL benefit of HSPA+ though, it'll just be faster than HSDPA. Phones such as the G2 will have the ability to take full advantage of HSPA+ due to additional hardware\software or whatever. Believe me, I'm in the Austin area and you can tell the difference and if you run mobile speedtest weirdly enough your speeds will increase as you run higher test. But, I've gotten 6-8 mbps easily with various test and if I go up to the 2mb and above the speeds starting showing 11 mbps and up, which I don't believe though. Could be though.
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Yeah, he was nowhere close to being correct. NO current tmobile phone except for the G2 is HSPA+ compatible. The HD2 is a HSDPA and the 'H' on your screens means that you are connected to HSDPA which theoretically supports up to 7.2 Mbps as opposed to original 3G which was just 3.6 Mbps. Yes, if you are in an area that is upgraded to HSPA+ you will see an increase in speeds because the infrastructure has been upgraded to support higher speeds, but your phone will NEVER support HSPA+ and will thus never reach speeds above 7.2 Mbps. Which brings me to my next point below .....
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I just did a speed test and it was 11mbps...
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You are a f%$king idiot. Turn off wifi. Your HD2 will not connect at 11 Mbps on a cellular network.
I am not sure if this is on WiFi or regular 3G or H mode.
On my phone the WiFi is turned off, but I am not sure if the ROM has the WiFI build in it .
But it clearly shows on Androit it is lighting fast.
I was curious and then tested it againts a PC, and the HD2 was way faster to execute the tests.
What do you guys think about speed. Is T-Mobile capable of it?
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Apache0c said:
From what I understand, most of the United States will have HSPA+ by the end of the year. They have already announced the rollout here in Southern California. All 3G T-Mobile phones automatically support HSPA+ and the HD2 supports speeds up to 56Mbps.
Here is a post about the rollout.
http://androidontmobilehd2.wordpres...hspa-goes-live-with-21mbps-theoretical-speed/
Here's a post showing 4+ Megabit and I think I've seen one that is 5+ or even 6+.
http://androidontmobilehd2.wordpress.com/2010/09/04/more-testing-shows-t-mobile-superior/
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Is the upgrade in Southern Cali currently affecting data connections now? I'm having issues with consistent data connections on both Android and Windows Mobile, and the Windows Mobile I just noticed today!
so, can anyone confirm HSPA+ speeds on the hd2? HSDPA speeds are nice (PPP) much better than HSPA/HSUPA. just wondered if i could get even better, more reliable connections.
So I was reading a news article that said that t-mobile would be doubling the speed of hspa+ every year(or was it every two years?) Would the boost allow us to get faster speeds(past 14mb) or just help the phone get to 14mb like what hspa+ does for non hspa+ phones example being the vibrant getting speeds close to hspa 7.2?
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You won't see the G2 benefit that much since the hardware only supports up to 14 mbps. You may see the latency drop though with T-Mobile increasing the speeds of their network.
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It would allow us to utilize the full potential of the current max speed but unless the chip we have supports faster than 21.1Mbps or hspa++ then that's the best we could get and would need to upgrade to a different phone to go any faster. 21.1 Mbps is by no means slow though, so I wouldn't see a need to go faster other than simply because we can. That's just over 2.6 MBps by the way and the average cable internet is 15-25Mbps (1.875 - 3.125MBps), plenty fast for most of us.
By the way, it's 21.1 for 4G according to T Mobile, 14Mbps is *just* fast 3G which I was able to get on my slide, though I never saw those speeds. UMTS is 3G, HSPA is fast 3G and HSPA+ is 4G. Or that's how I've always understood it.
Yup our network, the way the cores are built are actually capable of (theoretical) speeds of over 100mbps I don't think we will ever push it that far, but as soon as we can support the output it will be updated. However most phones can only support up to 14 mbps so the next update will be the only one that matters for a while. I'm sure as you know we will try to expand the curent 4g network as much as we can befor we will up the juice. In the next upcoming year you will see a new line of phones come out with some pretty impressive stats to go along with the update.
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It would allow us to utilize the full potential of the current max speed but unless the chip we have supports faster than 21.1Mbps or hspa++ then that's the best we could get and would need to upgrade to a different phone to go any faster. 21.1 Mbps is by no means slow though, so I wouldn't see a need to go faster other than simply because we can. That's just over 2.6 MBps by the way and the average cable internet is 15-25Mbps (1.875 - 3.125MBps), plenty fast for most of us.
By the way, it's 21.1 for 4G according to T Mobile, 14Mbps is *just* fast 3G which I was able to get on my slide, though I never saw those speeds. UMTS is 3G, HSPA is fast 3G and HSPA+ is 4G. Or that's how I've always understood it.
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HSPA+ is still 3G.
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HSPA+ is still 3G.
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HSPA+ is most definitely 4G. Are you living in a box? Stop feeding into hype and do some research. HSPA+ is just as 4G as WiMAX and LTE.
http://www.itu.int/net/pressoffice/press_releases/2010/48.aspx
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HSPA+ is still 3G.
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Sure, according to the 4G standards released a short while back - no phone carrier even comes close to 4G and won't for a very long time. 100Mbps is just insane, that's 12.5 MBps which far exceeds any persons needs on a cell phone and even for home/business usage. Maybe if you're trying to run a data center from your G2 it would be useful.
From a marketing standpoint, 21.1 is 4G - it's the next step up (and the fastest). After that is HSPA++ at 48Mbps, still not even close to the PC 4G definition but what do we care - it's fast as hell!
True either way were still getting faster speeds! I think I'm gonna stick to my g2 for awhile then. My speeds are already fast and constant.
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HSPA+ is most definitely 4G. Are you living in a box? Stop feeding into hype and do some research. HSPA+ is just as 4G as WiMAX and LTE.
http://www.itu.int/net/pressoffice/press_releases/2010/48.aspx
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Technically hspa is not real 4g, but what people really care about from 4g is speed, hspa is proven as fast and in the majority of tests prove it to be faster than any current 4g network so I'm not sure why people have the need to point this out. Some people just need to nit pick everything. And yes 100 mbps isn't realistic for phones however for some applications like web connect sticks or new devices like galaxy tabs online gaming from everywhere will be a real posibilty. 100 mbps would be peak real average speeds would be more like 60 mbps still crazy fast. All in all don't expect anything like this anytime soon.
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What speeds do you guys get in your city? Ive never seen anyone close to 14mbps. I get about 3-4mbps in houston.
I live in saginaw,texas 5 miles away from downtown fort worth. I average around 5-6 mbs normally. I get great signal as the tower is down the road from me. My phone recently just got the hspa+( my phone had a bug that would only allow it to connect to 3g). And I was getting 2mb and down. Is your phone rooted with sense by any chance?
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omarsalmin said:
HSPA+ is most definitely 4G. Are you living in a box? Stop feeding into hype and do some research. HSPA+ is just as 4G as WiMAX and LTE.
http://www.itu.int/net/pressoffice/press_releases/2010/48.aspx
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Sorry, HSPA+ is most definitely not 4G. It's no more 4G than EDGE was 3G. It's still using 3G technology.
In that press release, LTE-Advanced is proper 4G, as it refers to. I can't see anything there saying that HSPA+ is 4G.
Edit - ok, I take all that back. Looks like the ITU have done a U-turn and decided that because so many companies started calling HSPA+ 4G, to make that a legal definition. Sounds bizarre to me :facepalm:
http://www.intomobile.com/2010/12/18/itu-reverses-its-decision-lte-wimax-and-hspa-are-now-4g/
steviewevie said:
Sorry, HSPA+ is most definitely not 4G. It's no more 4G than EDGE was 3G. It's still using 3G technology.
In that press release, LTE-Advanced is proper 4G, as it refers to. I can't see anything there saying that HSPA+ is 4G.
Edit - ok, I take all that back. Looks like the ITU have done a U-turn and decided that because so many companies started calling HSPA+ 4G, to make that a legal definition. Sounds bizarre to me :facepalm:
http://www.intomobile.com/2010/12/18/itu-reverses-its-decision-lte-wimax-and-hspa-are-now-4g/
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Hehe that's why I gave my source so I didn't sound like a *complete* idiot
It used to be that 4g was 100mbps but the itu downgraded the classification so now technically vzw lte, sprint wimax, and tmob hspa+ can all be classified as 4g. With that said, most tmob customers are still seeing threshold speeds of like 3 or 4 mbps and at most 6 or 7mbps. Vzw lte speeds under ideal conditions aren't much better - maybe 12 - 14mbps from what I have heard (but prob more widespread and no 2mbps speeds being billed as 4g). I believe under ideal conditions and current tech, wimax produces the fastest real world speeds but vzw and tmob should be catching up soon.
However, with an hspa+ capable radio the g2 (if you hang onto it for another year or two) should see full hspa+ speeds and I guess its technically capable of anything that radio spectrum can push out with firmware/radio software updates.
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lol @ people who didn't realize ITU updated their definition of 4G - I actually think that the 3GPP considers EDGE to be a "3G technology" in some regards - don't ask.
Regardless, in 2011 TMO is going to be rolling out HSPA+ 42 - that should merit a speed increase slightly on HSPA+ enabled devices and most certainly a latency drop.
tvdang7 said:
What speeds do you guys get in your city? Ive never seen anyone close to 14mbps. I get about 3-4mbps in houston.
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check my sig below
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lol @ people who didn't realize ITU updated their definition of 4G - I actually think that the 3GPP considers EDGE to be a "3G technology" in some regards - don't ask.
Regardless, in 2011 TMO is going to be rolling out HSPA+ 42 - that should merit a speed increase slightly on HSPA+ enabled devices and most certainly a latency drop.
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yupp.. then after HSPA+ (21, 42, 84, 168 mbps) is LTHE (Long Term HSPA Evolution [336-672mbps])
http://www.tmonews.com/2010/12/forget-hspa-and-lte-lthe-is-the-way-to-go/
http://www.nokiasiemensnetworks.com...HSPA_evolution_white_paper_low_res_141220.pdf
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holy **** nice.
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holy **** nice.
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Yeah T-Mo in the Seattle area is the ish. My sig is at my house with only 3 bars of reception...
The terms "3G" and "4G" are worthless. All that really matters is what the actually speed of the network is. It is ridiculous to argue over what is or what isn't 4G.
Im letting you know ahead of time that this is a random rant. So I have been wondering what's the real deal holyfield with sprints so called wimax. I read somewhere that wimax really isn't TRUE 4g as it doesn't even max out at true 4g speeds. The most I've hit was about 5mbps. So is it really even 4g? And tmobile hspa + network is that faster that our wimax? My sister comes to my apt in my 4g area and her g2 gets about 6 mbps with her hspa. Why does it seem like gsm has way better data. We all know sprints 3g isn't really 3g its piss poor. If this LTE is supposed to beat out wimax why did sprint roll with it over LTE. I'm thinking sprint wanted to get a **** ton of subscribers so they just went with wimax cause it would roll out way before LTE but I definitely don't think wimax/clear is true 4g. I also heard the clear ceo jumped ship or something lol. If the national standard is supposedly going LTE what would sprint/clear do, will they adopt new technologied in their phones and leave wimax phones out to dry? So the real 4g is LTE and wimax just seems like it should be labeled pre4g, cause I hear LTE will be able to get 10mbps down and 3-5mbps up. That's stronger than most peoples internet eh? I am kind of pissed for paying an extra 10 bucks for 5mbps in a strong area and in my area my 4g hits only about 2. Is sprint going to be the only provider using wimax? The moral of this pointless rant is just to get my knowledge and others about the future/truth of wimax. I just want to understand how this service compares to this new LTE and tmobiles and atts new 4g network. It would be nice just to come in and drop comments on any question asked in this post instead of flame me, or post non sense.
A small search woudl have answered all questions....
First, nobody has a "true" 4G network as no 4G network reaches 100mbps yet. Another thing, Sprint is working on a WiMax/LTE hybrid network, or so it goes. Speed depends where you live. I hit 10mbps easily here in Orlando, some people can't hit above 1. Some goes for ANY network on earth.
DirtyShroomz said:
A small search woudl have answered all questions....
First, nobody has a "true" 4G network as no 4G network reaches 100mbps yet. Another thing, Sprint is working on a WiMax/LTE hybrid network, or so it goes. Speed depends where you live. I hit 10mbps easily here in Orlando, some people can't hit above 1. Some goes for ANY network on earth.
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10mbps? Wtf you gotta be ****tin me man
But thanks for your input bro
Get an iPhone on Verizon. That will solve ALL your issues.
PS. I've hit 12mbit on Sprint's "4G".
Vivix729 said:
Get an iPhone on Verizon. That will solve ALL your issues.
PS. I've hit 12mbit on Sprint's "4G".
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Nah I'm pretty happy with my evo I got it late, xmas to be exact but hands down best phone I've ever owned. Just disappointed with sprints 3g because you would expect it to perform but it doesn't. Way to rub in your 12mbps against my 2 lol
I got almost 12 as you can see in my signature.
I hit 9-10 all the time in Houston. Hell I get 1-2 on 3g. And you can bet Verizon will charge for lte.
funny you should mention that gsm is always faster than sprint cdma. i was in denton tx last night for an interview and compared my evo on 3g(running gingerbread with no wimax) and i got 1566 kb down compared to his 447 kb down. denton is a college town but not exactly small. i usually get 2-5 mbps down on 4g but havent tested it lately as i am doin the gb thing
I don't mind... if Sprint goes under because of this failed investment, we'll be able to jump ship without ETFs anyways... no worries. ;P
i get 2-3 on 4g in orlando area it sucks my 3g is 1 m
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I hit 9-10 all the time in Houston. Hell I get 1-2 on 3g. And you can bet Verizon will charge for lte.
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How the hell you get 9-10 in Houston I live in Houston. When I lived in pearland I could barely get 1 mbps, now I moved to the woodlands area and barely get 3.
akarol said:
I don't mind... if Sprint goes under because of this failed investment, we'll be able to jump ship without ETFs anyways... no worries. ;P
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That couldn't happen....could it?
tangstang said:
funny you should mention that gsm is always faster than sprint cdma. i was in denton tx last night for an interview and compared my evo on 3g(running gingerbread with no wimax) and i got 1566 kb down compared to his 447 kb down. denton is a college town but not exactly small. i usually get 2-5 mbps down on 4g but havent tested it lately as i am doin the gb thing
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Yeah I know Denton I took a visit to meet this chick at Texas women college one time I drove all the way from Houston and she was on her rag. Ill never forget Denton. Imagine how my weekend went. Never again lmfao
i live in Miami and the 3G is decent as far as comparing it with that pos "3G" t-mobile used to give me. with tmo i was lucky to get 600kbps. with sprint i get 600-1600 average on 3G, and 2400-5600 average on 4G. and peak 4G speedtest is on my signature lol
I live in Houston and on 4g I get around 8-9.
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sounds intresting
http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/09/wsj-clearwire-moving-away-from-retail-will-concentrate-on-netw/
djnarcotics said:
sounds intresting
http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/09/wsj-clearwire-moving-away-from-retail-will-concentrate-on-netw/
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Nice, this is good news
Here in the south of Puerto Rico we have decent speeds
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maybe because there's not alot of people connected to these antennas
You guys all seem to be getting pretty good speeds. Me on the other hand I rely on 3g I might get 1 mbps on a good day and I'm happy.
The server you use on speedtest makes a huge difference as well, try to use one that has an internet backbone near it like Atlanta, DC or Chicago for the east coast. I get maybe 2 or 3mbps on speedtest with a server that is not 30 miles from here yet I get 8mbps on another that is almost 1000 miles away.
WiMAX and LTE are still considered pre-4G atm but it's an actual 4G network, all we need is a firmware update to have true 4G. at&t & t-mo on the other hand will Never have real 4G with HSPA+. btw, I get 8mbps in Orlando and on the east coast near there all the time using the atlanta and harold, ky servers, actual speeds during use vary though.
http://phandroid.com/2011/04/14/analyst-sprint-must-buy-clearwire-or-move-on-without-them/
I agree I've had a 4g device for almost a year now with 4g not even driving distance away...I have to travel about a little over an hour, maybe a little more, to get 4g in the city, they got to do something or have a backup plan...I don't think the kyoceras working...
I though it was Sprint's plan to move on without them? I read an article a couple weeks ago that a bunch of Sprint execs had resigned from Clearwire's board. This was just before they announced (or at least rumors began) of moving to LTE.
Doesn't surprise me that Verizon will have their 4g reaching more customers in 1 year than we have now.. I love Sprint, but, they are behind at&t/verizon for a reason.
I have had an EVO since launch and only used 4g on a brief trip out of town. It now looks like I will be upgrading to another phone without ever really using 4g on my EVO. That's sad.
I guess people thought VZW was lying when they said they'd have their entire 3G network covered with LTE by 2013.
Same here. On a trip to pa I used in pa in a certain spot for about 5 minutes
Batman58 said:
Doesn't surprise me that Verizon will have their 4g reaching more customers in 1 year than we have now.. I love Sprint, but, they are behind at&t/verizon for a reason.
I have had an EVO since launch and only used 4g on a brief trip out of town. It now looks like I will be upgrading to another phone without ever really using 4g on my EVO. That's sad.
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its not that big of a deal
Clear has been having LTE tests in AZ and the wimax equipment as I understand it will be super easy to upgrade to LTE - then sprint releases the LTE devices and BOOM LTE is everywhere that WIMax Was..
http://www.clear.com/blog/size-matters/
sprint always tries to bring new tech first...
but always seem to fail in the follow through.
What spectrum was that phoenix testing done on? 2400mhz??
What speeds does Wimax have when there's only 1 user on it?
That video seems very promising considering how those speeds were faster than my Uverse.
slag02 said:
its not that big of a deal
Clear has been having LTE tests in AZ and the wimax equipment as I understand it will be super easy to upgrade to LTE - then sprint releases the LTE devices and BOOM LTE is everywhere that WIMax Was..
http://www.clear.com/blog/size-matters/
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That's part of the problem - there isn't much coverage and where there is coverage, quite frankly it sucks. I live in Houston and leave 4g off because the coverage is so spotty.
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http://phandroid.com/2011/04/14/analyst-sprint-must-buy-clearwire-or-move-on-without-them/
I agree I've had a 4g device for almost a year now with 4g not even driving distance away...I have to travel about a little over an hour, maybe a little more, to get 4g in the city, they got to do something or have a backup plan...I don't think the kyoceras working...
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What's up with you and the kyocera posts?
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Lol idk I just feel they had a good idea but it wasn't the right hardware to put out with it, you see my point, I will definitely give it a chance but my opinion is no as of right now, I'm just gonna have to wait
I would rather have the expanded backend like T-Mobile has, where a normal 3g phone will pull down 5mbps. 21 mbps down is nice but what would I need that bandwidth on a phone. Embedded in a laptop nice, used in the middle of the country where alot of.people don't even have internet access that would be amazing
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After Tmobiles new plan trotting after 2gb of use, I could care less about 4g as long as I'm not throttled. I could eat 2 gigs in a day if there's enough music to download.
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It is almost embarrassing how many people have not gotten to use their 4g on their Evo. I went to San Diego from Phoenix and I still wasn't even able to find any 4g connection. I've really enjoyed the rom experience with the Evo, but I was really looking forward to the 4g stuff.
Luckily bay area has 4g. It is amazing how just a few years ago dsl was screaming fast now my phone can blow it away.
I'll be another upgrading to an evo3d without ever really using 4g on my htc evo......4G!
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BrianDigital said:
I would rather have the expanded backend like T-Mobile has, where a normal 3g phone will pull down 5mbps. 21 mbps down is nice but what would I need that bandwidth on a phone. Embedded in a laptop nice, used in the middle of the country where alot of.people don't even have internet access that would be amazing
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I agree with this, in my area Sprint consistently pulls about 200-400 kbps down on 3G. A friend with VZW showed me his 3G speed test results - routinely around 1500-1700. If I had speeds like that, I wouldn't ever even want or need 4G.
I like Sprint, but man their 3G is very disappointing. During lunch hour on weekdays, I've seen it drop to nearly 50 kbps. It makes me yearn for the days of blazing fast dialup modems... :/
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I agree with this, in my area Sprint consistently pulls about 200-400 kbps down on 3G. A friend with VZW showed me his 3G speed test results - routinely around 1500-1700. If I had speeds like that, I wouldn't ever even want or need 4G.
I like Sprint, but man their 3G is very disappointing. During lunch hour on weekdays, I've seen it drop to nearly 50 kbps. It makes me yearn for the days of blazing fast dialup modems... :/
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This is what I used to say about T-Mobile where I live in Utah. I average what your friend is getting on Verizon with Sprint's 3G network here.
Speed test sitting at my desk at work right now (about my average 3G speeds, usually a little higher):
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And with a really weak 4G signal:
Further north 4G I can hit up to 6,000-7,000. Not that I ever use it.
EDIT: Interesting that the upload speeds were the same lol
ffolkes said:
I agree with this, in my area Sprint consistently pulls about 200-400 kbps down on 3G. A friend with VZW showed me his 3G speed test results - routinely around 1500-1700. If I had speeds like that, I wouldn't ever even want or need 4G.
I like Sprint, but man their 3G is very disappointing. During lunch hour on weekdays, I've seen it drop to nearly 50 kbps. It makes me yearn for the days of blazing fast dialup modems... :/
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Sprint in my area is fine. Holds around 1mpbs so not to bad. However Verizon in this area kinda sucks cause there is so many people on it. Two of my friends had to tether to me while tailgating just to get some.bets off
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They are saying they will have 4g in my area by the end of the year ... I will believe it when I see it lol
I've searched the forum and have done my share of "Google-ing" but have not yet found a fix for my issue. My hands feel tied on this device as I was used to manually changing settings on my HTC Evo 4G before leaving Sprint.
My download speeds according to Speedtest.net's app indicate the worse. They have fluctuated between 36kbps to 256kbps, but just now went up to 590kbps.
Download: 36kbps
Upload: 299kbps
Ping: 362ms
Download: 256kbps
Upload: 31kbps
Ping: 215ms
Download: 590kbps
Upload: 82kbps
Ping: 128ms
I'm currently using the following ROM:
[ROM]Glacier_Gingerbread_S_TMOUS_2.32.531.1[Rooted and deodexed][12-09-11]
thanks to Football, tw39515 & dsixda.
with Radio version 26.13.04.19 pulled by krazie1, found at:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20150354&postcount=10.
Prior to flashing the ROM I did a Full Wipe. My phone is also Rooted.
That's just you. Where are you located ? For Me sometimes the mobile network is better then my own WiFi
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Couple questions.
- Have you gone over your data limit and been throttled?
- How strong is your signal when performing those tests?
- Do you know anyone else with a 4G T-Mobile phone that has gotten similar speeds on the same tower?
I sympathize with your issue as data speeds have always been bad for me as well. Not just in my current city, but throughout the state. I get up to about 3mbps now, but two months ago I would get speeds similar to yours (well under 1mbps), with the upload sometimes faster than the download (not the way it's supposed to be). My only suggestion is to call T-Mobile and complain. Tell them you're not getting the data speeds you're paying for.
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Couple questions.
- Have you gone over your data limit and been throttled?
- How strong is your signal when performing those tests?
- Do you know anyone else with a 4G T-Mobile phone that has gotten similar speeds on the same tower?
I sympathize with your issue as data speeds have always been bad for me as well. Not just in my current city, but throughout the state. I get up to about 3mbps now, but two months ago I would get speeds similar to yours (well under 1mbps), with the upload sometimes faster than the download (not the way it's supposed to be). My only suggestion is to call T-Mobile and complain. Tell them you're not getting the data speeds you're paying for.
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Hey TeeJay!
I'm at 22% (455 MB used of unlimited (2.00 GB w/Included High Speed Data Usage. My New Bill Cycle starts on January 9, 2012. I actually thought I might have gone over, but checked it out right now.
Signal strength DBM: -105
The friends that I have in my neighborhood and surrounding areas, are with AT&T and those who have T-Mobile, don't have a smart phone.
I'm starting to think it has something to do with the actual ROM. I didn't have these issues on previous ones. What do you think?
Anything is possible, although that strikes me as unlikely. If you haven't already, try asking in your ROM's thread if anyone else notices similarly slow data speeds. As an experiment, I'd try flashing a different ROM and doing some speed tests. If you make a Nandroid backup first, it's very to go back to your current setup.
I might be stating the obvious, but make sure your Mobile Network mode is NOT set to ”GSM only”.
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RobertVanHagar said:
Hey TeeJay!
I'm at 22% (455 MB used of unlimited (2.00 GB w/Included High Speed Data Usage. My New Bill Cycle starts on January 9, 2012. I actually thought I might have gone over, but checked it out right now.
Signal strength DBM: -105
The friends that I have in my neighborhood and surrounding areas, are with AT&T and those who have T-Mobile, don't have a smart phone.
I'm starting to think it has something to do with the actual ROM. I didn't have these issues on previous ones. What do you think?
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If you're on -105 dbms, that's really low signal. Its not even full bars om my device at those dbms. I get full bars around -80 dbms on my device.
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Heres my results on that Rom, im at work data sux here.
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Anything is possible, although that strikes me as unlikely. If you haven't already, try asking in your ROM's thread if anyone else notices similarly slow data speeds. As an experiment, I'd try flashing a different ROM and doing some speed tests. If you make a Nandroid backup first, it's very to go back to your current setup.
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I did a Nandroid last night, download speeds have been fluctuating today. I may try flashing a different ROM later tonight.
Thank you, TeeJay!
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I might be stating the obvious, but make sure your Mobile Network mode is NOT set to ”GSM only”.
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Hey Unhappybirthday! My default settings were set to 'GSM/WCDMA' auto. I have been testing in that mode and also 'WCDMA only'.
Thank you though. Appreciate it!
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Heres my results on that Rom, im at work data sux here.
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Hey tw39515! That's pretty cool compared to my results! I'm gonna keep testing this. I should have posted in the ROM thread. My apologies.
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If you're on -105 dbms, that's really low signal. Its not even full bars om my device at those dbms. I get full bars around -80 dbms on my device.
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Dang. Then mine's off big time.
Well, here's what I did:
Wiped Data, Cache, Dalvik, formatted SDCard, mounted USB and copied gazalan's [ROM]HoneySense 8 for Glacier: Reboot Edition [Version 1][September 22] to SD, and flashed the ROM.
Upon booting up I went ahead and created a new Google Account in order to access the Market, and downloaded the Speed Test app and to my surprise have been getting download speeds that I longed for! :
Download: 1165kbps
Upload: 869kbps
Ping: 130ms
Download: 1288kbps
Upload: 779kbps
Ping: 120ms
Download: 1053kbps
Upload: 934kbps
Ping: 441ms
I downloaded and installed APN Backup & Restore in order to backup the current APN settings, as a precaution.
Signal strength fluctuates between -108 dBm and -101 dBm. I've attached three snapshots with info pertaining to Phone Info page and Software Info. Here's the link to the APN file I backed up:
http://www.mediafire.com/?tnr5n8pr699phu2
It's a pretty long list.
I was thinking of maybe just flashing a Radio-less ROM on top of this without doing the Data Wipe. What do you think? You think I'll be able to keep my download speeds if I try it? I'm still gonna make a back-up of this ROM.
On a side note: I have yet to play with the following since they are mentioned in the HoneySense 8 thread:
Unity v9 Kernel (Fixes WiFi, according to users)
- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1121939
Demonspeed Sense Kernel, also fixes WiFi according to users
- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1214489
I may not even, if I don't have to.
coupetastic-droid said:
If you're on -105 dbms, that's really low signal. Its not even full bars om my device at those dbms. I get full bars around -80 dbms on my device.
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The higher the dbms the lower the signal?
3 out of 4 BARS im at -91. 4 bars -89
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The higher the dbms the lower the signal?
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Put attention to the "-" sign. It's negative, and the lower the number - the higher the value.
Also, for anyone willing to know what dBm stands for:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DBm
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Put attention to the "-" sign. It's negative, and the lower the number - the higher the value.
Also, for anyone willing to know what dBm stands for:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DBm
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Well i learned something new today, thanx added
RobertVanHagar, I see you are in El Paso Tx. I am in San Antonio Tx.
My speed results have been the same for about a month. Also, loosing all signal regularly, like the towers are rebooting. Lots of people here are having the same issue. It has been happening on and off all year for everyone I know with T-Mobile here.
I placed 2 tickets with T-Mobile for both of my MyTouch 4G devices.
Of course they never called me back as promised and just closed the ticket.
The notes state that this is a known issue in the area and they are working on it.
No ETA. I know that Time Warner telecom is having lots of network capacity issues and am wondering if T-Mobile uses them as a backhaul in San Antonio. That could explain the slow data here at least. I am running MIUI stable and latest radio that came out this month.
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RobertVanHagar, I see you are in El Paso Tx. I am in San Antonio Tx.
My speed results have been the same for about a month. Also, loosing all signal regularly, like the towers are rebooting. Lots of people here are having the same issue. It has been happening on and off all year for everyone I know with T-Mobile here.
I placed 2 tickets with T-Mobile for both of my MyTouch 4G devices.
Of course they never called me back as promised and just closed the ticket.
The notes state that this is a known issue in the area and they are working on it.
No ETA. I know that Time Warner telecom is having lots of network capacity issues and am wondering if T-Mobile uses them as a backhaul in San Antonio. That could explain the slow data here at least. I am running MIUI stable and latest radio that came out this month.
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Hey Kevev, thanks for the info. I spoke with a few family members here in EP and they've shared with me that their 4G and 3G signals have dropped considerably in the past 3 weeks. Two are with T-Mobile, 1 with Virgin Mobile and a last one with Sprint. Makes me wonder what the heck is going on.
As of right now, I'm using Myn's [ROM] Synergy - [RC1 07/01/2011] - The Result Is Greater Than The Sum Of Its Parts for the myTouch 4G, and haven't had any issues. Download speeds have been pretty consistent, between 1100 and 1200 kbps. Never had any issues when I had this ROM on my HTC Evo with Sprint, and when I saw Myn had one for the Glacier, I jumped on it!
Thank you all for your replies and recommendations. I love this Forum!
RobertVanHagar said:
Hey Kevev, thanks for the info. I spoke with a few family members here in EP and they've shared with me that their 4G and 3G signals have dropped considerably in the past 3 weeks. Two are with T-Mobile, 1 with Virgin Mobile and a last one with Sprint. Makes me wonder what the heck is going on.
As of right now, I'm using Myn's [ROM] Synergy - [RC1 07/01/2011] - The Result Is Greater Than The Sum Of Its Parts for the myTouch 4G, and haven't had any issues. Download speeds have been pretty consistent, between 1100 and 1200 kbps. Never had any issues when I had this ROM on my HTC Evo with Sprint, and when I saw Myn had one for the Glacier, I jumped on it!
Thank you all for your replies and recommendations. I love this Forum!
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Glad to hear data is working better. I wiped my phone last night and made sure not to restore anything. Data is more consistent everywhere except my house. That has always been a bad area. I was just reading over at the Howard Forums that T-Mobile has lowered the transmission power on their 1700Mhz/2100Mhz antennas. That along with the loss of some towers is probably the reason why we are seeing weaker signals and slower data.