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Can I duplicate a sim card?

I love my wizard, but sometimes I want to take something smaller with me. I have another cellphone, but I don't want to have to pull them apart and switch the sims every time I swap them. Is there anything out there that will make an exact copy of a sim card so i could keep one in both of them and then just turn off one when I'm not using it?

guttrhead said:
I love my wizard, but sometimes I want to take something smaller with me. I have another cellphone, but I don't want to have to pull them apart and switch the sims every time I swap them. Is there anything out there that will make an exact copy of a sim card so i could keep one in both of them and then just turn off one when I'm not using it?
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they do that here in Bulgaria, but you have to be VEERY careful to switch off the unused one..
I know it is a lenghty process and takes a day to clone the card

guttrhead: what country are you in?
Have a search on the board for multi sims or clone sims.
Basically, in Western Europe, you're unlikely to have much success due to the encryption system used in the SIM.
V

Most providers here in europe offer DUO SIM solutions, where they provide you with a second sim with your telephone number so you can put that in a second phone or a car system. Most of them only charge a small one-time fee for it.
Of cource only one of the SIM's can be active.
Cheers
Cactus

I'm in the US on cingular. I'm thinking about just buying something like this from ebay. If it doesn't work, at least I could use the sim utilities it has, considering the wizard doesnt really have any.

guttrhead: as le_cactus says, if you can get a 2nd sim, get one.
However, cloning a sim requires cracking its protection. In this country at least, that can be destructive to the sim, and even then, not successful.
I've posted a number of posts on this issue. But I have no experience with US sims...
V

guttrhead said:
I'm in the US on cingular. I'm thinking about just buying something like this from ebay. If it doesn't work, at least I could use the sim utilities it has, considering the wizard doesnt really have any.
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Holy crap! This sounds awesome! Have you tried it? I'm thinking of just getting it too!

guttrhead said:
I'm in the US on cingular. I'm thinking about just buying something like this from ebay. If it doesn't work, at least I could use the sim utilities it has, considering the wizard doesnt really have any.
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Holy crap! This sounds awesome! Have you tried it? I'm thinking of just getting it too!

Multi SIM Cards avalible here in Thailand as well. Switch by *100# from Phone to Phone (up to 4 phones. Check with your provider!

I've just ordered one of these super sims. Looks like the donkey's dangler, then I can keep my wizard and universal on the go and switch as desired.
If it works of course... :lol:

I have a similar card reader + card... from another copmpany...
It works fine with portuguese cards... I have it for 2 years now...
As naugthy said, it really takes quite a few hours to read(crack) the original... just depends on how fast is your computer... mine took about 8-10 hours per card (2 years ago...)...
But they also warn that cracking the card *may* be destructive for the card... But if it happens, you can try to contact you network provider and ask for a replacement because it «just stopped working»... or something...

Cloner on ebay
It looks good .... but does it allow you to use your telephone service? Reading the details on the advert it seems to me that it only copies the data from your sim but mentions nothing about using it for calls/GPRS/GSM etc.
If it works let us know. I am a bit wary about swapping my sim between my MDA Pro and 6515 and this gadget looks an ideal solution if it really does work (I have my doubts :? ).

I will report back. And out of geek interest, I will be doing the cracking on an AMD FX55 processor with 4Gb of dual channel RAM, so I will time the cracking process.
Joe

joebongo said:
I will report back. And out of geek interest, I will be doing the cracking on an AMD FX55 processor with 4Gb of dual channel RAM, so I will time the cracking process.
Joe
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We just cant wait to hear from y m8! :lol:

Joost39 said:
joebongo said:
I will report back. And out of geek interest, I will be doing the cracking on an AMD FX55 processor with 4Gb of dual channel RAM, so I will time the cracking process.
Joe
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We just cant wait to hear from y m8! :lol:
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Same here. Guess I'll wait a bit on my purchase to see how it worked for you.

Re: Cloner on ebay
cranny said:
It looks good .... but does it allow you to use your telephone service? Reading the details on the advert it seems to me that it only copies the data from your sim but mentions nothing about using it for calls/GPRS/GSM etc.
If it works let us know. I am a bit wary about swapping my sim between my MDA Pro and 6515 and this gadget looks an ideal solution if it really does work (I have my doubts :? ).
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The kit I have has a card reader/writer and copying software. You need to copy/crack the sim card and save it into a file in your disk. You do this for the sims you want to copy (I have 2 cards, one for each network).
After that, you copy these files into the multi-card using the same software, and you're ready to use it.
It works perfectly for calls, gprs, gsm... In the SIM apllications area I have an extra app that enables me to switch between cards.
The card I own (not the one that was posted) only has one problem: it cannot have a PIN.

Can i just get another cingular sim and load the settings onto it, or does it have to be the super sim that comes with it.

guttrhead said:
Can i just get another cingular sim and load the settings onto it, or does it have to be the super sim that comes with it.
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It has to be the superSIM that comes with it...

At first I thought I'd wait for someone else to try the super-sim. Now I am regretting changing my mind.
No problem with the order - nice and quick. Super-Sim, USB sim reader, Installation CD and instruction card in a neat bubble pack. The instructions were not very clear to me (poor translation?) and contained warnings that some sims were not compatible and the copying process may destroy them. The instructions on the CD were a little clearer so I decided to take a chance.
Tried it with the T-Mobile sim from my MDA Pro. 3 Hours later it told me it wasn't going to work. Same for the o2 sim from my XDA2.
Both sims still appear to be working but as I understand it, the more cycles of trying to 'crack' the sims, the more chance of destroying them. This makes me reluctant to try again with different settings.
Sorry if I seem a bit vague but I didn't really know what I was doing. I could have done with better instructions.
Anyone know a little more about this please?

http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=190220#190220
V

Anyone tried the SD corruption fix from HTC website?

As per title, has anyone tried the fix yet:
SD Corruption fix
Cheers,
BS...

it's only for artemis (3300)

It says:
"Support: HTC P3600"
and has a:
"Related items
* P3300 SD card enhancement"

you are in right, but look inside cab, are OMAP850.dll file (the processor of 3300 NOT 3600)

pyro963 said:
It says:
"Support: HTC P3600"
and has a:
"Related items
* P3300 SD card enhancement"
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Whatever you want
http://www.europe.htc.com/support/faq.html?id=545&device=htcp3600
http://www.europe.htc.com/support/faq.html?id=545&device=htcp3300
http://www.europe.htc.com/support/faq.html?id=545&device=htcs310
http://www.europe.htc.com/support/faq.html?id=545&device=htcs710
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FAQ no. 545 is found under the P3300 section, but you can get the same answer for any valid device by adding '&device=htcxxxx' to the URL

i did...i've noticed faster access to the card and i can access the card without issue after the device has been in "sleep" mode for long periods of time.

Does this solve a "4GB card problem"?

safer than safe said:
Does this solve a "4GB card problem"?
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The patch is for the Artemis.
It will have no effect at all on a Trinity.

lts said:
The patch is for the Artemis.
It will have no effect at all on a Trinity.
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HTC nor Orange don't intent to do anything about this by the looks of it. I spoke to both and Orange has no idea and HTC (UK) said that Trinity only supports up to 2GB cards. So I am now using two 2GB sandisc cards and had no probs since.

cortezzi said:
i did...i've noticed faster access to the card and i can access the card without issue after the device has been in "sleep" mode for long periods of time.
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You installed in on Trinity, right?

Maybe not the best thread for this, but thought it might be of interest.
I have had 3 mini SD cards for my Orange M700 (Trinity/HTC 3600). An O2 branded 1Gb card worked fine. A 2Gb Transcend card was unusable, it would become corrupted after a few hours use. I tried reformatting many times to no avail.
After reading another thread which suggested that Topram cards seemed OK, I bought a 4Gb one which has been fine for about 3 weeks now. It was also the cheapest 4Gb mini SD card I could find on ebay!

Any Dual Sim holder ?

Hi,
I'm wondering if there is a dual sim holder that fit in the kaiser.
I'd like one with no cut options. I've googled my question, but no answers...
Any ideas ?
Thanks for your help

I too would be extremely interested in this...

Still no ideas ???

dual sim
with no cut i think is impossebel
but wizh cut's
go to
http://www.simore.ch/fr/accessoires_pour_mobiles/HTC/P4550.html

certainly look impressive, but for tytn 2 you can only cut cards. have you tried one?

this looks awesome. anyone tested it yet?

or you can try to clone your card
other options is cloning the card. I did that couple years ago in my tmobile-usa card.

leeky said:
other options is cloning the card. I did that couple years ago in my tmobile-usa card.
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How could you manage this !!!
Very interresting

woaloo said:
How could you manage this !!!
Very interresting
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im using this tools since 4 years ago ...
http://sim-max.biz/store/index.php
cheers
indra9110

leeky said:
other options is cloning the card. I did that couple years ago in my tmobile-usa card.
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AFAIK this is only possible for networks and SIM cards using the COMP128 algorithm for authenticating the SI to the network. I don't know who still uses COMP128 but certainly in the UK no provider uses it on recent SIMs.
Highly unlikely to work with any USIM for the same reason - COMP128 is potentially insecure (obviously, if you can clone the SIM) so has been replaced with newer algorithms.
Just my 2p'th.

epninety said:
AFAIK this is only possible for networks and SIM cards using the COMP128 algorithm for authenticating the SI to the network. I don't know who still uses COMP128 but certainly in the UK no provider uses it on recent SIMs.
Highly unlikely to work with any USIM for the same reason - COMP128 is potentially insecure (obviously, if you can clone the SIM) so has been replaced with newer algorithms.
Just my 2p'th.
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Yes you are right! I bought an old Tmobile card, before 2001 production, then I made clone and call tmobile to made a change to clonen-able tmobile card. I tried a couple of card before finally succesful. The new card have new algorithma and it is less likeable to be force to read for longer period of time than old one.

so getting back on track, has anyone used a dual card adapter in a TyTn II?
i assume you have a program to switch cards

I've been trying to find a Dual SIM Holder that can be used in the Kaiser without Cutting the SIM cards, but I don't think such a Dual Sim Holder exists, there is just too little space where the Kaiser holds its SIM
I really cannot cut my SIM as I have a work and personal SIM I want to use, and if i cut/loose the work one it will take em ages to get a replacement which is very bad...
Plus I suck at cutting SIMS lol, tried to cut my personal one and it killed it, had to get a replacement.

And, what about the cloning solution.
Is there any news ?

HTC Trinyti do not detect SIM Card. any ideas?

Hello. One friend just gave to me and old HTC P3600 he not use so much... I already set free of operator and load a cooked rom. When ti arrive my hands I put a new cooked rom, FInixNOver 3.7.2M2D Radio 1.50.08.11. The sim card work fine in others cell phones... Sim card it is new one, around 18 months... And it is fine... Any others idea also clean it with air? Best regards.

naghtan said:
Hello. One friend just gave to me and old HTC P3600 he not use so much... I already set free of operator and load a cooked rom. When ti arrive my hands I put a new cooked rom, FInixNOver 3.7.2M2D Radio 1.50.08.11. The sim card work fine in others cell phones... Sim card it is new one, around 18 months... And it is fine... Any others idea also clean it with air? Best regards.
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Well I think i find the problem... but right now dont know how to fix it... These HTC P3600 can not recognize SIMs of 64K. Any ideas?
best regards!

naghtan said:
Well I think i find the problem... but right now dont know how to fix it... These HTC P3600 can not recognize SIMs of 64K. Any ideas?
best regards!
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to overcome the SIM card is not detected you should use the SIM CID Unlock
you can download it at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=293957

Hakim Rahman said:
to overcome the SIM card is not detected you should use the SIM CID Unlock
you can download it at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=293957
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Hello... well teh terminal was already free with that program to i could change the rom... but anyways I already did that again... but it is the same... Terminal was from vodafone, and simcard cant recognize it is from vodafoen. I try Orange sim card and it work perfect!
Thank you anyway...

Hi,
I had similiar troubles with my Trinity. In this case the solution was trivial - the SIM did not touch the contacts in the device properly (the SIMs from different providers can have differences in thickness). Try to insert a piece of thick paper behind the SIM. Good luck

karmangul said:
Hi,
I had similiar troubles with my Trinity. In this case the solution was trivial - the SIM did not touch the contacts in the device properly (the SIMs from different providers can have differences in thickness). Try to insert a piece of thick paper behind the SIM. Good luck
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Thanks! I will try... but it is sim card from Vodafone and terminal origianl from Vodafone too... jajaja I will let u know how it works...
Thanks so much.... best reagrds

My storm request several times a day to add the sim card password

My storm request several times a day to add the sim card password (for the two sim cards). Do you know why? Can i do something?

Toksotis20 said:
My storm request several times a day to add the sim card password (for the two sim cards). Do you know why? Can i do something?
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Which rom? Maybe reboots? You can turn off the security question for your sim or try another rom.

mcflyle said:
Which rom? Maybe reboots? You can turn off the security question for your sim or try another rom.
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Cyanogen OS 13.1.5-znh2kas7ec-kipper
CyanogenMod API level: Elderberry

Toksotis20 said:
Cyanogen OS 13.1.5-znh2kas7ec-kipper
CyanogenMod API level: Elderberry
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That seems to be original, sorry no special idea from me, never used it.

mcflyle said:
That seems to be original, sorry no special idea from me, never used it.
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Yes, is original...

According to Wileyfox, the hardware only supports one 3G/4G/LTE SIM, the other will operate at 2G. I had the same problem when I used two 3G SIM cards together (2 x three cards). Even CM ROMs were the same. Switching to another provider was the only solution for me.