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memory problem

Hello I have had a look at the wiki and still could not find the answer to my problem, so I decided to post.
I seem to be having trouble with my new Memory card for my TyTn. I just bought a 4gb microSDHC from the shop. I put a single song on it and put it in my phone. When I checked the memory it says this:
“Total storage card memory: Not installed”
Does this mean there is something wrong with the card or do I need to install something.
Cheers

Are you running a wm6 rom? high capacity sd is not supported on a stock tytn. Check the Windows Mobile 6 forum and look for a cooked rom that supports SDHC. I recommend the schaps 3.60a cooked rom. Been runnin it for a couple weeks now and im pleased with the speed/stability.

Thanks for your response Surrept, I have installed the schaps 3.60a-0823_full and the phone looks great now…but I still have the same problem with the memory, any other suggestions?

Umm, should I take the memory card back to the shop, and if so what is the best one that will work with my phone?

Can anyone help please

applecorn said:
Can anyone help please
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Last thing to try:
Reformat the card using the PC Fat 16 or 32
Check size shown on PC is correct.
Try again on your Hermes.
If it does not show up, reset with the card in place.
Try again.
If it fails again - do a hard reset with the card in place.
If all that fails, then return to the shop. There is no more you can do. Since the card is not faulty, you will be a bit at their mercy. It will be a gamble to get another 4gb card, a 2 may be safer. However if it's the contacts in the phone then no card will work correctly.
Mike

Thanks!
My friend had a look at the phone and said he had no idea what to do, he handed it back and the card just started working! Wow! Is it great how that works some times.

Storage card "Error 13 changing to dir"

I got a new 8GB MicroSDHC (kingston),
and I received this error several times, on several occations,
even after re-formatting the card in the HD2.
Most of the time, it occured after writing to the StorageCard while connected with "ActiveSync" and using windows (XP) explorer to write to the card.
Another occation was when I tried moving files (with the device's file explorer) from one directory to another on the storage card.
I have tested the card - "Search for bad sectors" (with the HD2 connected as a storage device) - and the report came out clean.
Did anyone else encountered this ?
Does the hotfix for the storage card has anything to do with this ?

Som30ne said:
Does the hotfix for the storage card has anything to do with this ?
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The hotfix for the storage card was to address the issue with 8gig+ cards when the camera application miscalculated the amount of storage space left for photos or video capture.

morpheus1982 said:
The hotfix for the storage card was to address the issue with 8gig+ cards when the camera application miscalculated the amount of storage space left for photos or video capture.
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Ok, So I guess the hot-fix would not fix this.
Thanks for the reply.
Anyone else had this problem ?

Oh, another thing -
it hapened mostly (maybe only) after the card had more than (or close to) 2GB in use.
(Up to ~ 2 GB, everything seemed to work just fine)

That sounds like a dodgy card. You can reprogram the cards to say they have more memory on them than they actually do.
Where did you get it from? (Please don't say eBay )
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Try this - with the HD2 connected as a storage device, fill the card with 8GB worth of files (or near enough), and make sure you can copy all those files back off. If that doesn't work then it's the card and it will need to be replaced.

johncmolyneux said:
That sounds like a dodgy card. You can reprogram the cards to say they have more memory on them than they actually do.
Where did you get it from? (Please don't say eBay )
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Try this - with the HD2 connected as a storage device, fill the card with 8GB worth of files (or near enough), and make sure you can copy all those files back off. If that doesn't work then it's the card and it will need to be replaced.
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That's a nice Idea.
I'd try it.
No, I did not buy it from eBay.
I bought it in a store that I buy computer stuff from for several years . . .

Som30ne said:
No, I did not buy it from eBay.
I bought it in a store that I buy computer stuff from for several years . . .
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That's good then. At least if there is a fault in the card then you can take it back. If you trust the store though, I'd doubt they'd be selling spoofed cards.

johncmolyneux said:
That's good then. At least if there is a fault in the card then you can take it back. If you trust the store though, I'd doubt they'd be selling spoofed cards.
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Well, I did just that.
I went there, and requested a replacement.
We (the store's lab guy and me) checked the card, in the device, and in a card reader - in both it acted the same.
The interesting thing is - we tried 2 more cards (of the same brand and type) - the other two acted just the same.
I still have to check this with a different brand card and see how things turn out . . .

Sandisk 16GB broken

This is now my 3rd micro sd card that stops working.
In one year 3 cards stopped working 1 with blackstone and 2 with Leo.
What is wrong with this type of cards. Is it normal that they break so often????
Any tools you recommend to let them go live again (the card is totally unrecognized by the LEO)
Now I put the microSD card with adapter on computer, and it reads it but is very very slow. Any software tool recommended?
p.s. trying now to scan/fix/reformat and so on

many users are reporting that hd2 are corrupting memory card. mine too was corrupted. the problem is with hd2 itself. i was using sandisk 8gb in xperia x1 for 3 years without having any problem. my card lasted only 1 week in the hd2

it most definatley seems to be a problem, in which the HD2 is making memory cards dead. Regardless of their Size, Class and Brand

Dojomaster1984 said:
it most definatley seems to be a problem, in which the HD2 is making memory cards dead. Regardless of their Size, Class and Brand
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any user got this problem from other brand than sandisk?

yeah, am having the same problem here. when i try to copy data onto the card from my PC, it takes ages and then when i pop it into my HD2, it doesnt read the files. i have formatted the card over and over again. i have just purchased another 16gb card. i will let you know if i encounter the same problem again.

I haven't suffered a card failure in my HD2 yet but have with other phones and iPAQs. SanDisk and Lexar replaced the cards in question but didn't say what had happened to them.
I have had success recovering cards with Rescue Disk Pro but most failures like this cannot be fixed.

Ive been using the Sandisk 16gb mobile ultra class 4 card on my Leo and its been perfect since i bought it, fast and realible. Works just as well on my HD 1.

mine 16gb works like a charm.
p.s. flash cards tend to get corrupted if you dont use "eject" feature. at least sometimes it had happend that, not "ejecting" the usb flash, would result in complete data loss./

flunik said:
mine 16gb works like a charm.
p.s. flash cards tend to get corrupted if you dont use "eject" feature. at least sometimes it had happend that, not "ejecting" the usb flash, would result in complete data loss./
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You are completely right, ive had a couple of incidents with my HTC HD and HTC HERO, where by altering the data of the sd card while it was out of the phone, it would corrup the information on the device, and not let me install any new programs, hard reset :S andd on my Hero constant safe mode :S
Anywho, Flunik is correct it would be much safer to eject safely from the computer, before, it might just save ou those sd cards.

I noticed that my card wouldn't work properly when it was formatted on a PC!
If I let the Leo format the card it runs fine!!

Hd2 has ruined my 8gb sd card

Alrite peeps,
I hope someone can help me here as I have had no luck anywhere else.
I have had the hd2 for over a month now, it came with a 2gb Sdhc card but I decided to purchase an 8gb sandisk sdhc card.
Ok, I have not encountered any problems so far until today as I scrolled to view some pictures it froze at a pic for 5secs then suddenly to my shock I discovered that it had deleted all my files from my sd card! Now I took it out when I put it back it in, it requested a reformat to make the card readable! So I tried it on my Pc and again it asked to reformat- I had no choice to reformat when I did this I had an error message unable to reformat?! I noticed the capacity had also changed to 30.6mb and when I tried to reformat it in the hd2 it was succesful but still not readable ! Has Anyone else come across this problem and what can I do or is my card messed up?might check if it came with warranty.
Thanks in advance
P.s I'm running the tmobile 1.72 stock rom if that's makes any difference.

Yes, I had the same problem. And it turned out to be a fake card. Where did you buy it?

I had the same problem with the 8Gb card that came in the box from HTC. I have opened a case with HTC, and waiting to see what they say...

incredible ... the same thing happened to me, my guess the card is a fake, yet how does it work before that? I dont know how much data I had in there, it was not a lot, but the moment I tried to put about 15 songs in there, thats when it crashed afterward when I tried to play the songs. I havent had it for 2 weeks when it happened.

Omg.. that is serious thing...

Try to get your pictures back!
I work in a supermarket for home electronics and we've several failures of SD-/Memorycards per week. Even if you've formatted your (micro) SD-card, you can get your data back (esp. pictures) in the most cases. Very important: DO NOT USE THE CARD B4 MAKE A RESCUE TRIAL!
I use a free programm called DIR (Digital Image Recovery) in a special free version (from Foto Erhardt search via heise.de) to rescue the datas. It seems rly lowlevel but fails if it finds heavy memory errors. In such cases I try the free version of recuva, which you could use for other files too. PC Inspector Smart Recovery is the second possibility, but seems to me a bit unstable.
However, in a Windows OS you have to expect in evry second with a bluescreen, data loss, weird errors...
P.S.: All progs should be available in English or as ML.
P.P.S.: Not able to out links in, removed.
greetz foxy

SD CARD
Well i have to say this my card is also a disgrace as sandisk was bought with one of the store here in cambodia together with my HTC HD2 and after 2 days my whole input in it gone and requested for reformat..i did and tried for how many times then no luck at all. i returned to the shop and explain to them luckily they understood. same brand but till now its ok 1month passed

I have to say from experience that i wouldn't be surprised if all these failed cards were sandisk branded. I've had 3 sandisk sd cards of varying sizes over the years and they have all failed. They were all bought from reputable stores and never got using for anything other than data storage so spent most of their time in the plastic cases. Since then i've stayed away from sandisk kit and never had a failure and saved some cash in the process coz sandisk also like to charge you more.
This maybe something to test.

exactly the same problem here. Even the 30,6 Mb. matches. I bought from e-Bay, some prik in Korea. escalated at Paypal bust still no money back

Moschino02: change the title of the thread, please
not the HD2 ruins the microsd cards... the cards gives problems(fake / defective / no name brands)

M3PH said:
I have to say from experience that i wouldn't be surprised if all these failed cards were sandisk branded. I've had 3 sandisk sd cards of varying sizes over the years and they have all failed. They were all bought from reputable stores and never got using for anything other than data storage so spent most of their time in the plastic cases. Since then i've stayed away from sandisk kit and never had a failure and saved some cash in the process coz sandisk also like to charge you more.
This maybe something to test.
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Pooh, then I'll be a lucky guy cuz I've bought a Samsung 8GB Class6. I'll test the card with H2testw b4 I'll use it evry day and put my backups on it...
Full ack for changing the thread name! HD2 didn't suxxx nor ruin some cards!
greetz foxy

i have had problems with a sd card. especially when files are damaged
look here. this is a formatter specially for sd cards.
http://www.sdcard.org/consumers/formatter_3/SDFormatterEN2905.zip
run this with your card in a card reader after a recovery described above.
see if it helps to get the card working

Dust2Dust said:
exactly the same problem here. Even the 30,6 Mb. matches. I bought from e-Bay, some prik in Korea. escalated at Paypal bust still no money back
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I opened a case at eBay (within 45 days) and they returned my money in a day (great service)! My seller was from Hong Kong and pretended to be a friendly, reasonable guy, but by the time he knew I had returned the card there was no communication anymore whatsoever. As soon as I told the seller about the problem he had the item removed from eBay so I couldn't give negative feedback. eBay mailed me a warning about that too, but by that time I had already paid, received and returned the item.

Ok maybe it was not the hd2 but a faulty card I don't know? Please ignore the title(Im not sure how to amend it) Thanks for the zip file il give that a go..
I see that others have experienced this fault.I was always aware of fake cards prior to making the purchase off eBay, i thought it was geniune as it stated that it had a 5year warranty however the uk business shop/seller who specialises in these products has not replied to me since the fault in regards with the warranty. So I'm having doubts now
Anyways, just be careful and Sync regularly - luckily I did not have much on there exact a few apps and a few pics.

Now I am not so sure if my 8gb micro sd hc card is a fake after all, a friend has a similar card and they look exactly alike. I got my card bundled with the phone, and it did work for quite a while until I copied some music into it, and the card failed after I tried to play the songs. Now my notebook doesnt recognize the micro sd card (sd card adaptor) therefore cant format it since no disk detected, and my hd2 formatted it to a 30mb capacity yet i cant see it in file explorer.

hadiyaakub said:
Now I am not so sure if my 8gb micro sd hc card is a fake after all, a friend has a similar card and they look exactly alike. I got my card bundled with the phone, and it did work for quite a while until I copied some music into it, and the card failed after I tried to play the songs. Now my notebook doesnt recognize the micro sd card (sd card adaptor) therefore cant format it since no disk detected, and my hd2 formatted it to a 30mb capacity yet i cant see it in file explorer.
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same problem for me. have been using the bundled 8gb card for a mth when suddenly it died 5days ago. I panicked and tried reading it on my laptop. nothing detected. I thought all my files are gone for good. I pulled out the card and reinserted over 10times. all of a sudden, autoplay started and the card and its files were detected! immediately copied and backed up all my files onto my laptop.
true enough to my prediction, this morning I woke up and the card died once more... this time its dead for real. changed to a Toshiba 4gb card this time..
could it be its the phone causing cards to corrupt? regardless of brand? so many ppl have this problem.

Same for me here,
I think it's related to cht scheduler or to cht. I've read something @ pocketpc.ch
so now my 16 gig scandisc sd-card only has 30.6mb
I'm gonna send it back...

I wonder how many of you guys do not use the safely remove hardware or the eject option when you remove your phone from your PC....
I have a multitude of microSD cards and ALL of them still work and most of them are sandisk cards....
failure to use the safely remove hardware or eject option will always end in the card getting corrupted. It may not happen the first time but it will eventually happen and when it does get corrupted the HD2 will not show the card as being present until it is formatted.

More info on this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=646731

Here is something intresting somebody wrote in the thread "Dojomaster1984" linked to:
Ravishan2008 said:
Hey Guys!!
I work at a retails shop where we sell heaps of memory cards and cameras a day .. So im pretty experienced with this issue. The microSD card you get with HTC HD2 is a Class (4) card, which transfers about 5mb/s. which means that it has higher transfer rate compared to the normal everyday microSD cards you buy from your retail shops/ebay which are Class (2) which transfers about 2mb/s.
This is the reason that your HD2 kills all those Class (2) cards.. because when the phone doesn't get the enough transfer rate to read.. after couple of days they all stuff up.
Recommendations:
Try getting the new PANASONIC (JAPANESE MADE) microSD card which has a transfer rate for about 20mb/s these cards will work like butter..
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so if this guy is right the HD2 only wants class 4 cards...
I for myself bought a class 2, that died (it was a fault, I did want at least a class 4 one)
so good luck altogether!

[Q] Memory Issue

So I have a 2gb card in my HD2 right now while running live and according to my sync with my computer, i have .16 gigs left on it.
Isn't there memory onboard the HD2? I know that WP7 uses the memory from the card, but i would at least think it would use some of the memory from the HD2. Do I need to go buy a larger card? I mean I hate to spend $20 on a card if I don't need to. Right now im at the point where I cannot even transfer a photo.

bnd10706 said:
So I have a 2gb card in my HD2 right now while running live and according to my sync with my computer, i have .16 gigs left on it.
Isn't there memory onboard the HD2? I know that WP7 uses the memory from the card, but i would at least think it would use some of the memory from the HD2. Do I need to go buy a larger card? I mean I hate to spend $20 on a card if I don't need to. Right now im at the point where I cannot even transfer a photo.
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WP7 in it's present incarnation only recognizes and uses 512MB of the the HD2's 1GB so you need a larger SD card if you have one. What happened to your factory SD that came with the HD2...I believe it was a 4GB microSD?

I got this phone for free, so im using an old sd card i had laying around. im gonna probably just go to radio shack while they are having this sale to get the 16g scan disk.

Here is a question. In my sync, it says the capacity on my card is .16g, I had android on there before. Is android still on there? If so, is there a way to remove it? i want to make sure i am getting all the memory out of my card

bnd10706 said:
Here is a question. In my sync, it says the capacity on my card is .16g, I had android on there before. Is android still on there? If so, is there a way to remove it? i want to make sure i am getting all the memory out of my card
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WP7 installation is supposed to reformat your SD card. In Zune, under view settings or one of the lists of what you can you do with your phone, there is a way to view how much memory you have to play with and also be able to re-allocate memory for specific uses. Check it out.

hjhjhj said:
WP7 installation is supposed to reformat your SD card. In Zune, under view settings or one of the lists of what you can you do with your phone, there is a way to view how much memory you have to play with and also be able to re-allocate memory for specific uses. Check it out.
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I cant use zune since i have an Apple iMac. Im using the windows phone 7 connector software off the windows site. It supposedly is the zune version for mac. I just find it hard to believe that ONLY the rom is taking up 2gb of space.

OK, very interesting senerio here. I took out SD card and booted up the phone. The phone actually loaded into windows just fine. Not only that, my wifi was detected. But with the SD card in, no wifi. My SD card must not work

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OK, very interesting senerio here. I took out SD card and booted up the phone. The phone actually loaded into windows just fine. Not only that, my wifi was detected. But with the SD card in, no wifi. My SD card must not work
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yeah that is correct, your SD card hasnt been recognised at the initial setup, you need to try one of two things, try formatting the card in a digital camera (to be honest even this isnt a great idea) or two, you need a new SD card
SD cards even within the same brands and models may or may not work, some will not install at all, others will install but with issues, wifi, random reboots, lagging, to name a few.
The reason i mention the formating isnt an ideal solution is because, yes it may work, but the underlying issue of the card not originally working is still there, all you have done is moved the bar a bit, the card its self may still generate errors.

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yeah that is correct, your SD card hasnt been recognised at the initial setup, you need to try one of two things, try formatting the card in a digital camera (to be honest even this isnt a great idea) or two, you need a new SD card
SD cards even within the same brands and models may or may not work, some will not install at all, others will install but with issues, wifi, random reboots, lagging, to name a few.
The reason i mention the formating isnt an ideal solution is because, yes it may work, but the underlying issue of the card not originally working is still there, all you have done is moved the bar a bit, the card its self may still generate errors.
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OK, i may reformat, i may just get a new card tomorrow. If I reformat, or get a new card, i need to reload the rom dont I? i cant just install the card and be done with it?

bnd10706 said:
OK, i may reformat, i may just get a new card tomorrow. If I reformat, or get a new card, i need to reload the rom dont I? i cant just install the card and be done with it?
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correct, what ever you do you will need to reformat it

Well, I have tried the 3, 2g SD cards I had from getting phones. I also went and bought a $30 SD card and it did not work, so I returned it and got a different $30 SD card, which also did not work.
I am getting pretty fed up.
Does anyone have a spare SD card, that they know works that they want to sell/give me? I don't care the size, i just want to be able to load peoples pictures into the phone..
I just hate wasting my money on cards that don't seem to work

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Well, I have tried the 3, 2g SD cards I had from getting phones. I also went and bought a $30 SD card and it did not work, so I returned it and got a different $30 SD card, which also did not work.
I am getting pretty fed up.
Does anyone have a spare SD card, that they know works that they want to sell/give me? I don't care the size, i just want to be able to load peoples pictures into the phone..
I just hate wasting my money on cards that don't seem to work
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First of all, since you live in Trinity, it would be nice if you knew how to writer proper sentence to get your question across.
Secondly, why you're spending $30 for an SD card is beyond me.
Third, you need to consider the brand and speed of the SD cards you are supposedly purchasing. Are you buying a brand from a reputable manufacturer and are you buying a card with sufficient speed for WP7? I would recommend at a minimum a Class 4 card (Class 6 highly suggested). Also, a 2GB card probably won't buy you anything on WP7 since WP7 on an HD2 uses the SD card a the primary source of working memory. Thus, at a bare minimum a 4GB card is recommended.
And as most of the posting on the forum have indicated, the SD card issue on the HD2 is a hit and miss affair. And I really do hope you have the SD card in the phone when you install WP7, otherwise, no amount of changing will work.

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.... Are you buying a brand from a reputable manufacturer and are you buying a card with sufficient speed for WP7? I would recommend at a minimum a Class 4 card (Class 6 highly suggested). Also, a 2GB card probably won't buy you anything on WP7 since WP7 on an HD2 uses the SD card a the primary source of working memory. Thus, at a bare minimum a 4GB card is recommended....
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i would highly NOT recomend a class 6 card, there is less chance of that working.
The class ratings define sustained sequential speed, WP7 doesnt need that, it needs high random speeds, the two are not always compatible, go for a class 2 or 4 card and you are more LIKELY to get a card that works, as teh above poster mentioned, it is hit or miss and there is no compatible list, there is apparently a AT&T card branded for WP7, good luck finding a place that sells that outside of an actual shop and expect to pay a premium for it.

hjhjhj said:
First of all, since you live in Trinity, it would be nice if you knew how to writer proper sentence to get your question across.
Secondly, why you're spending $30 for an SD card is beyond me.
Third, you need to consider the brand and speed of the SD cards you are supposedly purchasing. Are you buying a brand from a reputable manufacturer and are you buying a card with sufficient speed for WP7? I would recommend at a minimum a Class 4 card (Class 6 highly suggested). Also, a 2GB card probably won't buy you anything on WP7 since WP7 on an HD2 uses the SD card a the primary source of working memory. Thus, at a bare minimum a 4GB card is recommended.
And as most of the posting on the forum have indicated, the SD card issue on the HD2 is a hit and miss affair. And I really do hope you have the SD card in the phone when you install WP7, otherwise, no amount of changing will work.
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Yes I have installed WP7 with the SD card in. First with the 2g card that came with my HD2, then with a Scandisk 4g one, and then with a $30 Kingston 16g one.
Honestly, im going to radioshack tomorrow and going to buy a 4g kingston class 4 one. In the sd card forum it says it works. So we will see.

bnd10706 said:
Yes I have installed WP7 with the SD card in. First with the 2g card that came with my HD2, then with a Scandisk 4g one, and then with a $30 Kingston 16g one.
Honestly, im going to radioshack tomorrow and going to buy a 4g kingston class 4 one. In the sd card forum it says it works. So we will see.
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did you honestly read those threads? there isnt any 100% compatible cards, all these, "confirmed working cards" threads are about as confirmed as the paper its been wrote on. Buy what you can afford, because the only way you are getting a "confirmed" card is if someone has actually tried it and has given it to you. Also its worth noting that getting it installed on the card is only half the battle, if WP7 has the slightest issue with thecard it it can course several different issues.
As i said, its very much luck if you can get it working, it absolutely flys and is super smooth if you can get it perfect