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nothing has changed..

so the streak has been released in the US now and for quite some time in the UK/euro and nothing has changed.
we got a few companys making cases that are neither unique or exciting but basically we are still stuck with a niche device with a small user base. now i love my streak but i cant help but feel is only a matter of time before it gets pulled from sale and all support/updates axed. i know at the moment its a hot device but you have to admit there is a air of death in the air compared to say the galaxy S.
i hope im wrong but i really dont think i am.

Isnt 2.2 suppose to be released in September for streaks in America? Then again I don't think it's confirmed. Once 2.2 is out things should speed up also the fact the streak doesn't appeal to a massive audience it seems to appeal more to us geeks that's all we need. It shouldnt be to long before dell release the source i would imagine.
Also no offense to the galaxy s but it has its fair share of problems and that really doesn't do it any favors so I wouldn't be writing about that .
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if Dell get the marketing right they could have a hit on their hands. here in the UK i've been out the field the last week (literally, camping) and the Streak proved it's mettle and a great talking point. now, at this juncture i think Dell suffer a bit from being branded a "box shifter" but i honestly think if Dell get their values correct with the Streak it will be around for a long time.
however, i am the first to admit that Dell does not have a great track record at leading a category - they tend to do whatever Microsoft and intel tell them to do (to the tune of a few tens of millions of dollars if anyone's been following the court case).
you just know when Apple release a 5" pocket computerphone that the pod people will buoy the marketing along for Apple ... Dell just does not inspire that kind of loyalty, or, is/has been getting the grass roots/astroturfing balancing act totally wrong.

It very much reminds me the story of N900.
Great hardware with great potential killed by the lack of interest of manufacturer, caused by the inability of big corporations to follow up on innovation.

I think the reason it does not move so fast at the moment is the lack if an updated os, but having mine for about an week now, I have to say the old os is somehow conceiled very good. The only lacks are the newest features that I have become used to via eclair and froyo..
And I am very sure that a lot of people are waiting to buy until froyo arrives. And as more and more people get tech interested, these " niche" gadgets get more popular.. So my two cents say that Dell will have the success they intended with the device.
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Godo_PPL said:
So my two cents say that Dell will have the success they intended with the device.
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I just don't see it. This device caters to geeks basically. Most consumers don't want a gigantic phone. My personal experiences have been normal consumers saying the device is too big, too ugly, and too niche.

uberamd said:
I just don't see it. This device caters to geeks basically. Most consumers don't want a gigantic phone. My personal experiences have been normal consumers saying the device is too big, too ugly, and too niche.
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This is what I heard from a regular Mac+iPhone user. And non-pocketable.
Until he took streak to a hand noticing how thin it is. And it fits into my pocket! Amazing. And the touch screen is very nice...
Overall reception was "it's not that stupid as it looks"

Godo_PPL said:
I think the reason it does not move so fast at the moment is the lack if an updated os
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It bugs me that so many reviewers cite old "firmware" (presumably they mean OS) as a reason to mark down the Streak. That's a crap reason, and a hallmark of a crap reviewer IMHO. I bought my Streak over the Desire because I knew that any (ok... most) software issues can and will be corrected, either by Dell or by us lot over here... but no software update will allow the Desire to browse the internet so comfortably, or be a reasonable e-reader, or enhance the (slightly) weaker battery, or make it such a beautiful platform for CoPilot, etc. In face, the only thing I did not like was the proprietary connector (because that can't be fixed by software). That is, until I found out it's a PDMI port.
A friend of mine recently crowed about updating his Desire to Froyo. I asked if it'd upgraded him to a 5" screen. He looked sad.
I just can't help feeling that over the next few months, we will find the Streak becoming greater and greater as cooked ROMs emerge. Good times ahead.

Honestly I think our best hope for Froyo is to keep bugging Dell about their GPL violations until they release their source so the community can get it up and running themselves (and yes, that's not such a great option either). Given what I have seen so far, I wouldn't really trust Dell on this.

flumps said:
so the streak has been released in the US now and for quite some time in the UK/euro and nothing has changed.
we got a few companys making cases that are neither unique or exciting but basically we are still stuck with a niche device with a small user base. now i love my streak but i cant help but feel is only a matter of time before it gets pulled from sale and all support/updates axed. i know at the moment its a hot device but you have to admit there is a air of death in the air compared to say the galaxy S.
i hope im wrong but i really dont think i am.
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You are not wrong. And that's why I haven't bought one yet. I even get a 10% Dell discount because I'm a student. But the lack of buzz and adoption of the Streak almost guarantees it to obscurity or failure. At that time I'll happily pick one up. I feel it's just priced too high and will slide down the closer we get to super/hot/awesome/fire greatness or the next thing. I'd like it to succeed as well, but I think Dell has screwed this from the start.

uberamd said:
I just don't see it. This device caters to geeks basically. Most consumers don't want a gigantic phone. My personal experiences have been normal consumers saying the device is too big, too ugly, and too niche.
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I will assume the idea from Dell was not to release this as an "mainstream" device, but a device to appeal to geeks and such. It is no way that Dell thinks 5" is a phone for the mass market!
I am pretty sure this is a device launched to make Dell look like an serious actor to be reckoned with in the future. Genius would I say starting on the top of the pack.
But, just my opinion....
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bmstrong said:
I feel it's just priced too high and will slide down the closer we get to super/hot/awesome/fire greatness or the next thing.
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Well you get a lot more for your money than an HTC Desire, Samsung Galaxy or an iphone,
suposed to be the greatest phones ever
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the Streak makes them look 'tacky n nasty little boys toys', which is what they are.
The Streak is like owning a top of the range BMW, you're not going to find accessories for it in Halfords/Wallmart

With a lot of bug...

I think the real failure in north america is the device is locked to at&t used only.
At the end, it's a nice device to have.

I think that is a good product too but the network driver is very buggy in 2.1 (8023) and if this release is the final release, it's a very bad things....
It is BMW not finished.....

mirrdhyn said:
the network driver is very buggy in 2.1 (8023) and if this release is the final release, it's a very bad things....
It is BMW not finished.....
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Well that's not finished yet either you muppet.
I don't think i've ever visited a forum where people download an OBVIOUSLY UNFINISHED AND UNTESTED ITEM then all winge about it
All the BS about it being official and how you should send the 'leaker' a donation makes me want to puke.
NEWS: the official one (when released) will be mentioned on the official websites, them being Dell or 02 themselves which will have a link, might be a bit obvious for some!
If Dell Streak owners are all that gullible, i'm going to start buying all the old first release 1.6 seconhand ones on ebay i can find, install 2.1 then sell them as BNIB just delivered from factory. As they obviously believe everything they are told.

In the End
I'm going with ATT, t-mobile is foobared on this phone

mirrdhyn said:
I think that is a good product too but the network driver is very buggy in 2.1 (8023) and if this release is the final release, it's a very bad things....
It is BMW not finished.....
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On my X5 they had to exchange 2 shocks in the first 18 months (fortunately they did for free even though after the warranty expired).
Besides, was there ever a perfect product?? Look at the iphone, took them a whole year just to get cut and paste, 3 years to get even basic multi-tasking.

cut and paste are not here on my Dell Streak...
Only on specific application but not on email...
Yes, I know that this build is a "beta" but from this topic and an other this build (8023) is a GM build, isn't it ?
So, If this build is a GM, I think the network driver is not finished, that all !
I have full network at home with my iPhone and my HTC and my Dell Streak too, but I lost the network on my Dell Streak frequently...

HansTWN said:
Besides, was there ever a perfect product?? Look at the iphone, took them a whole year just to get cut and paste, 3 years to get even basic multi-tasking.
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And it's still a pos, totally buoyed up by advertising and hype....
I think it's cool that the streak it's under promoted.. makes me laugh when people ask if it's an iPhone, then when I laugh ask is it a HTC then?
Tbh community is what makes a great device, I've said it before and will repeat it again, dell could really do something amazing and really get involved with the community to work together to make it an amazing device..
experts knowledge and volunteer enthusiasm makes a formidable team.

Look and read !!

You all bought this phone not even knowing there was gonna be a 2.1. SO why the heck are you complaining just because it can have it you still bought it regardless so why not Desire which did have 2.1 So please all stop your bloody moaning its doing my head in I like too answer questions asked on here and not look at stupid posts all the TIME !!!!!!!!!

thats for sure!
+1

Tada! Good job
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I remember we were promised a 2.1 update officially from SE when I bought the phone. I recently spoke with a programmer for SE though, so I understand why it's taking them so long, and I'm not that mad about it.

When I bought this phone, the whole reason I bought it was for the promised upgrade too 2.1 at the end of Q3. If I had known they were going to delay it, then yes I would have just gotten a Desire.
I have every right to moan and complain when they promised something and then didn't deliver.

I knew the phone was loaded with 1.6, but I also took solace in the fact that an update was imminent. This however hasn't been fulfilled, hence the frustration. Iv never posted about 2.1 on the x10, but your anger is misplaced

Tell ya what though - I'm glad they postponed the release of 2.1
While SE might have released it before the end of September, there was then going to be country changes, and the my carrier was bound to hold onto it for well over a month or two, and I'd probably still be waiting until mid 2011
So now I can just relax and enjoy 1.6 again, instead of getting hung up on an update.
See, I don't give two craps about the difference between 1.6 and 2.1 and 8.7, I just like shiny stuff.
Now I'm off to play with myself.

k1sr said:
Tell ya what though - I'm glad they postponed the release of 2.1
While SE might have released it before the end of September, there was then going to be country changes, and the my carrier was bound to hold onto it for well over a month or two, and I'd probably still be waiting until mid 2011
So now I can just relax and enjoy 1.6 again, instead of getting hung up on an update.
See, I don't give two craps about the difference between 1.6 and 2.1 and 8.7, I just like shiny stuff.
Now I'm off to play with myself.
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this you?

got my white x10i in the first week it released and i dun even know anythung about android os version (this is my first android device) so i was just quietly being patience waiting for the update...however now i start getting frustrated on these non-sense threads.
too many complaining in this forum now and i think MODS should start taking further actions to clean up some threads.....
the forum initally has some useful information...but now trying to search the forum for some specific topics and/or solutions will yield to so many useless threads in return....
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chris_knows said:
I remember we were promised a 2.1 update officially from SE when I bought the phone. I recently spoke with a programmer for SE though, so I understand why it's taking them so long, and I'm not that mad about it.
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I'm curious though... why is it taking them so long?

same here i really really really want to know why its taking so long

tetracortica said:
same here i really really really want to know why its taking so long
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Because they want to make sure we get the best experience out of the phone.
Because it's SE's first attempt at Android
Because there's a lot of customisations, rather than just plain old 2.1
Because sometimes things take longer than expected
Because if you ever had Windows Mobile, you'd know you never ever ever get an update
Because sometimes companies release 1000s of updates, mainly to fix issues the introduced with the previous update - SE want's to release an update without bugs
Because it's not really taking that long
Because there's nothing wrong with 1.6
Because some of the x10 community have become impatient, it seems like a long time
Because good things take time
Because they can
Because they have more to do in their time than just give you 2.1
Because it's interesting to watch the reactions of people
Because they might have to reprogram a lot of their UI to work with 2.1
Because 2.1 ain't perfect anyway
Because there should be another point here but I can't remember
Because I like making bullet points
Instead of whining about the problem, why not become part of the solution.
Ask yourself "what can I do to help Sony along?"

k1sr said:
Because they want to make sure we get the best experience out of the phone.
Because it's SE's first attempt at Android
Because there's a lot of customisations, rather than just plain old 2.1
Because sometimes things take longer than expected
Because if you ever had Windows Mobile, you'd know you never ever ever get an update
Because sometimes companies release 1000s of updates, mainly to fix issues the introduced with the previous update - SE want's to release an update without bugs
Because it's not really taking that long
Because there's nothing wrong with 1.6
Because some of the x10 community have become impatient, it seems like a long time
Because good things take time
Because they can
Because they have more to do in their time than just give you 2.1
Because it's interesting to watch the reactions of people
Because they might have to reprogram a lot of their UI to work with 2.1
Because 2.1 ain't perfect anyway
Because there should be another point here but I can't remember
Because I like making bullet points
Instead of whining about the problem, why not become part of the solution.
Ask yourself "what can I do to help Sony along?"
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+1. Guess that sum up everything
[*]Because they SE...

...........Because they are completely redesigning the UI

What I can't wrap my head around is if people wanted 2.1 or 2.2, why didn't they just buy a device that was already at the higher version.
It's not like there weren't any available. 99% of the countries where the X10 is officially sold have had a pretty nice selction of devices. And the world isn't lacking in unlocked devices....Even in Japan, the Desire came out only 3 months after the X10. (And was quickly pulled from the shelves. Apparently it's being re-released in October, with 2.2 preinstalled)
If these same people are so willing to sell their X10s just so they can have a newer Android version now instead of in a few weeks, why did they buy the phone in the first place???
I just can't understand.

@chris_knows... What did the SE programmer tell you?
Sent from my x10 using XDA and swype.

What:s wrong with Android 1.6? It still make my X10 looks good.
if we compare with other x series..x2 for instance. I must say "OH MY GOD"
Gunawan, GN Mutimedia & X10i

I dont really want to be back to an UnRooted phone, so I will wait a bit to try the 2.1 until the Root is fully tested

k1sr said:
Instead of whining about the problem, why not become part of the solution.
Ask yourself "what can I do to help Sony along?"
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Incase I wasn't clear enough in my previous post, I don't care for smart-ass answers. I wanted to know what caused the delay from a SE programmer's point of view. I said I was 'curious'. How is that whining?
@chris_knows: perhaps I'll just pm you since this forum has changed drastically since when I joined it. People will now attack you if they think there's even the slightest chance of someone attacking their beloved X10 (just for the record, I have no problems with my phone, I'm just CURIOUS)
Edit: If you really want to see whining, here you go: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VyN7O5jURgo

When I bought the X10 T-Mobile told me..
2.1 is coming
MT is not supported by 1.6
16m colors not supported by 1.6
Getting FroYo was my own dream, not that crazy...
**** the 16m colors, give me MT and FroYo!!!!!!! (dreaming..)
k1sr said:
Because they want to make sure we get the best experience out of the phone. MY ASS, BEST SE experience..
Because it's SE's first attempt at Android. PS3 software OK. But Android?? I'ts not that new or cutting edge. No new development needed. Especially not for Sony.
Because there's a lot of customisations, rather than just plain old 2.1. Localization? Timescape? Mediascape? LOL!
Because sometimes things take longer than expected. Right...
Because if you ever had Windows Mobile, you'd know you never ever ever get an update. Please don't compare these..
Because sometimes companies release 1000s of updates, mainly to fix issues the introduced with the previous update - SE want's to release an update without bugs. Nice, as expected for a high end phone??
Because it's not really taking that long. It DOES!
Because there's nothing wrong with 1.6. There is! Come on!!! Software compatibility? Speed?...
Because some of the x10 community have become impatient, it seems like a long time. High end phone, budget software support..
Because good things take time. Good? where?
Because they can
Because they have more to do in their time than just give you 2.1 Right!
Because it's interesting to watch the reactions of people
Because they might have to reprogram a lot of their UI to work with 2.1. Crap!
Because 2.1 ain't perfect anyway. Its beter than 1.6. And thats so perfect as you mentioned..?
Because there should be another point here but I can't remember. Bla bla
Because I like making bullet points Bla bla
Instead of whining about the problem, why not become part of the solution.
Ask yourself "what can I do to help Sony along?" ARE YOU SERIOUS??
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Sony SE WONT help you, you just keep buying..
XDA CAN help us getting at least FroYo on the X10. MT and 16m colors? Who knows!?

SONY should return our money back

SONY should return our money back
I dont want to get stuck with X10(no Froyo or next versions) for SGD 1088/.
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For the 1st time i m just pissed off with SONY

When did SE ever say they were updating beyond 2.1 when you bought your phone? They even told us that there was no multi-touch because of hardware constraints when we bought our phones, but they went out of their way to bring it to us anyways. We bought this device already behind the Android curve with 1.6, but now you expect it to have the newest version??? If you feel entitled to continuous updates, you must not have been around the past 20 years of the technology revolution. This is how it works. We have to pay for the research and development of new technology. If you don't want to buy something, just to have something better from the same manufacturer come out around the corner, then you either need to not buy anything or wait 10 years until the technology is not in its infant stage of development. The Xperia is nearing the end of its lifecycle, so this is to be expected. Did you complain to Microsoft when Windows 7 came out and you didn't get your pc upgraded for free?

agentJBM said:
The Xperia is nearing the end of its lifecycle, so this is to be expected.
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Please stop spreading such silly quotes. The X10 was first shown in November of 2009. It was released in 2010 around March. It is nowhere near the end of it's life cycle. Besides, that's a horrible excuse on Sony's part.

xperiax10.awesome said:
SONY should return our money back
I dont want to get stuck with X10(no Froyo or next versions) for SGD 1088/.
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For the 1st time i m just pissed off with SONY
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to start with, it is NOT Sony....it is Sony Ericsson. Completely different. Secondly, they never promised anything above 2.1. Thirdly, we are a very small part of the user base for the x10 handset. the vast majority of x10 users do not even know of xda developers let alone how to install the xrecovery menu or flash 2.2.1 beta onto their handset - let alone care. Sony Ericsson are all about selling handsets and appeasing the market.
we are **** out of luck.
For me, its time to leave SE behind and jump ship to a manufacturer that is actually interested in supporting the modding community, instead of one that actively tries to block it.

ok, im sorry, im getting sick of these "I effin hate sony" threads.
so i am finally going to put my .02 in.
first of all, is this the only thing you have ever bought in your life? how many purchases do you make in a week that you can step back and say, man this is awesome im so glad i bought this, this will be perfect for years to come.
exactly, none, have you ever bought a phone/pda that was perfect that would last you forever? and if so why did you buy the X10 if you were so perfectly happy?
i just dont understand how people can buy a $500 device, that in all honesty DOES impress, and DOES what its supposed to do pretty god damned well, and still freakin complain that 9 months later theres better technology out there.....SHEESH! welcome to life people! you can never have the "best" of something for more than a week. there will always be something "better" or "newer".
so i just bought new tires for my dodge ram, they cost hella lot more than my x10, so i guess i should go to my local tire store again in 9 months and whine about how my 9 month old tires dont look brand new anymore right?
come on man seriously, if you think sony lied to you or you hate this device so bad, freakin sell it buy an ifail 4 and leave us the fack alone. because im sure im not the only one here who's getting sick of the same lame "eff sony!!" bullishhh.
/vote kick op
/endrant

xperiax10.awesome said:
SONY should return our money back
I dont want to get stuck with X10(no Froyo or next versions) for SGD 1088/.
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For the 1st time i m just pissed off with SONY
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my god will this ever end! This is why I hardly come on here and post anymore. Every thread turns into some kind of SE bashing nonsense. I said it before...they said they would give us 2.x and they did...thats not good enough now people want 2.2/2.3. They shouldn't give us our money back because they have delivered what they said they would. They NEVER said we would get froyo or above. We will get some more updates for the X10 before it EOL. And if froyo or gingerbread are not part of it...im totally cool with that.

Agree
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Mr Patchy Patch said:
my god will this ever end! This is why I hardly come on here and post anymore. Every thread turns into some kind of SE bashing nonsense. I said it before...they said they would give us 2.x and they did...thats not good enough now people want 2.2/2.3. They shouldn't give us our money back because they have delivered what they said they would. They NEVER said we would get froyo or above. We will get some more updates for the X10 before it EOL. And if froyo or gingerbread are not part of it...im totally cool with that.
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+1 to my fellow well spoken albertan

xperiax10.awesome said:
SONY should return our money back
I dont want to get stuck with X10(no Froyo or next versions) for SGD 1088/.
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For the 1st time i m just pissed off with SONY
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As a fellow Singaporean, I'm ashamed that you are making a fool out of yourself here.
Let me get this fact straight -
The initial promise to upgrade WAS because they could not churn out a 2.0 or higher OS and sold us 1.6 instead, so they had to promise us an upgrade.
Being said by an upgrade, there already were hints that it would be 2.1, despite the hordes of kids around the world whining and setting up petitions for 2.2.
This news was all over the net last year. A promised 2.1.
But after that, people got greedy and asked for further upgrades. There WERE lots of topics with people being delusional trying to give themselves hope about having further upgrades.
Some even went ahead and emailed Sony Ericsson, already with replies that "there are no plans of further upgrades" and such, but still, they still maintained in delusion.
you think your $1,088 can last them for 2 years? It's barely 1 month's worth of pay for 1 staff. If they don't come up with new phones with better OS to entice you to buy them, they might close down their company since you won't spend another $1,088 on them for the next 2 years.
If you want a solution to this, fine. Email to them and tell them you don't mind paying them for receiving upgrades. In this case, I'm sure they will churn out a 2.2 exclusively for you.

What I don't get is, why do they have to feed us such bullsh*t about why we aren't getting any more android updates? There's no way they can claim that their ROM is better than vanilla 2.2. Sure, it has a few features that aren't found in stock 2.2, but there's a reason google released 2.2. And there is a reason more than 50% of the current android phones are running on 2.2. We, on the other hand, are stuck on a version of android that was announced before the phone launched. (or around the same time)
I have no problem with no further android os updates, since we can just flash 2.2 roms and soon 2.3. But please, don't give us that nonsense about 'no drastic change in user experience'. Let them admit that they are too lazy to go back and redo Timescape and Mediascape for 2.2 and I'll be happy.
Having said that, I was a happy X10 user until this morning. Now I just feel like an ass for defending my phone against all my friends who have already got 2.2 long ago on their phones and they taunt me with voice actions and flash

xperiax10.awesome said:
SONY should return our money back
I dont want to get stuck with X10(no Froyo or next versions) for SGD 1088/.
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For the 1st time i m just pissed off with SONY
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I saw it when it was 1st released at SGD$1088...
IMO, no phones are worth more than SGD$700.

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like little boys comparing the size of their dicks behine the shed. My disck bigger than yours. Grow up

mentat6059 said:
like little boys comparing the size of their dicks behine the shed. My disck bigger than yours. Grow up
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Keep your dicks to yourself. We are talking about phones here. While I don't agree with the OP about returning money..(seriously..lmao) SE should give us a better explanation..

They should do smthing like iPhone..ppl are getting iPhone4 for iPhone 3GS..(those on contract)
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pngface said:
Keep your dicks to yourself. We are talking about phones here. While I don't agree with the OP about returning money..(seriously..lmao) SE should give us a better explanation..
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+1 SE is too hazy.
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wow, seriously.
everyone should know by now that any tech item you buy, is out dated a few weeks after it's released.
and WHAT IF SE miraculously gives us 2.2, or even 2.3? when 2.4 comes out, are we to complain again?
my x10 came free as an upgrade with my contract. it had 1.6, and att x10's still don't have a native 2.1 upgrade. but again, it's a free phone (yes, i understand that the phone is eventually paid for throughout the contract in some ways).
unless you plan on purchasing a new device every month, don't expect to always have something that is running the latest and greatest. SE would lose money and shut down if they put 100% of their time and effort into 1 device and not into developing new devices. you can't expect SE to update the phone for as long as you decide to keep it.
seriously, why in the hell couldn't commodore release a windows 7 upgrade for the commodore 64?

I'm quite happy, as long as they sort out audio glitches, which I'm sure they will, remember the 0.4 second audio sync problem with video playback?
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I agree to the first thread . The phone is and was to much expensive.
The Hardware in the phone is great, but the service from SE is realy bad ...
I dont think that i will buy a SE phone again.
Launcherpro plus is much! better than the SE Launcher wich is not smooth and lagging ...
The Moxier stuff on the phone sucks and a needed to install 3rd party apps ...
And the Android Version is not up to Date what i would expect for this price ..

pngface said:
Keep your dicks to yourself. We are talking about phones here. While I don't agree with the OP about returning money..(seriously..lmao) SE should give us a better explanation..
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They really SHOULD give us a better reason. Even lesser phones are getting froyo now, why doesn't this so-called superphone get it too?

What now?

I have now had my X10 for 23 months.
It has been a turbulent old relationship, when I first got it I was blown away (as I'm sure most of you were with your first smart phone) A few months in when I started to get interested the Android operating system I was outraged to be left on 2.1, while phones I'd decided against were all getting 2.3! So like any self respecting technology junky I rooted with z's incredible 2.2 OS
By this time last year, after continued pressure from it's customers (me included), Sony had announced the release of 2.3 for my by now beloved X10. Joy of Joys!
When I finally got the official update I was mightly impressed it had everything that I felt Android was all about; apps2sd and flashplayer. I did try to root my phone after updating to 2.3 but the procedure was more difficult than with 2.1 and I never pulled it off. To be perfectly honest the fact that the stock OS did everything I wanted probably meant that the desire to get root access was no longer consuming my every waking minute.
23 months ago I kind of stumbled upon the Android operating system. I wanted a smartphone and everyone I met with an Iphone was a ****. I had been loyal to Sony Erricsson for my last 4-5 handsets so the X10 was the obvious choice for me. 2 years on and I'm in, it's android all the way as far as I am concerned.
I write this on my Motorola Xoom (still waiting for ICS by the way Google [tut tut]) and could never see myself with an windows phone or iproduct. I have never tried the Windows OS and dont care if I ever do. I have tried the iOS and while I admit it is an amazing bit of kit, apples attitude towards business and toward it's customers leave me cold. Coupled with the fact that anyone I've met with an iPhone has insisted in telling me aaallllll about it, I can't ever see myself locked in iPrison.
Rant over. My point is this: what now? My contract is up in 36 days and I am going to have to decide on a new handset. My loyalty to Sony Ericcson has dwindled somewhat but my loyalty to the Handset Alliance is now set in stone.
I quite like the idea of getting a Motorolla to go with my Xoom but the last Motorolla handset I owned was gash, although that was many generations ago.
I'd like to know any ex-X10ers opinions. What did you upgrade to? What would you reccomend?
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Hey there FormBee! I myself am a Sony junkie (thus the rather biased opinion that shall ensue) and had my X10 for little over a year now. The X10 has indeed had quite a bumps in its career (especially for AT&T customers in the States, where Ericsson denied the 2.3 update...) but when I found the world of ROMs and custom kernels, it transformed into a technological dewdrop of heaven.
Now, Sony has a rather strange history of making relatively sub-par devices when it pushes out some new line of devices. I bought a Sony VAIO laptop back in 2003-04 and it was dissapointing when I compared to it competitors. I now own another Sony VAIO laptop ('11 model) and its easy to see how far they have gotten. With phones, I feel the same way. With Sony now starting to release their NXT line of smartphones, (Xperia S/ ion...) I can only expect every good aspect of the X10 to be exemplified, whether it be hardware specs (dual core 1.5 GHz proc., 12.1 MP cam) or simply the pure aesthetics. Sony had a lot to learn from the X10 and I believe it shows in the new line of phones (though they'll all be shipping with Android 2.3 w/ ICS update in Q3 i think).If you have not checked out their new line of phones, I suggest you do!
As for Motorola, I can't really give an opinion on that since I've only owned one of their flippy-phones back in the day. However, I've some pretty good stuff from the Moto Droid Maxx: fast, easily customizable, and a rather long-lasting battery. Personally, I'm eagerly waiting for the Xperia ion (S won't be shipping here, sadly).
Just my 2 cents (or pence, what have you). Hope it helps!

Hi, as a recommendation, I wouldn't keep a sony ericsson. I still feel i did wrong decision in buying the x10, I don't get how can it be so laggy (I've tried every solution possible since 1.6) I know it's not very powerful, but I find it laggy still with 1.6 when it's supposed to run perfectly smooth. My point is the user experience quality given by sony, is not very... Good. I think they are just producing one phone after another, without stopping and truly giving everything to one and make it flawless.

FormBee said:
I'd like to know any ex-X10ers opinions. What did you upgrade to? What would you reccomend?
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i'm not yet giving up my X10, but..
as roaming around in this forum, i've read many threads about like x10 vs. samsung galaxy S2, and showing in their S2s and they say it totally rocks more than the x10. my friend has an S2 and tried it, maybe they're right, as compared to the x10 it's much faster and stronger, and not to mention, a latest one.
but I think to compare an S2 to the new Xperia S, I think the new Xperia S wins. really never tried that one though.. but Sony did a good job all over these years in between gadgets, and their new product will be an A-OK as usual

kensixx said:
i'm not yet giving up my X10, but..
as roaming around in this forum, i've read many threads about like x10 vs. samsung galaxy S2, and showing in their S2s and they say it totally rocks more than the x10. my friend has an S2 and tried it, maybe they're right, as compared to the x10 it's much faster and stronger, and not to mention, a latest one.
but I think to compare an S2 to the new Xperia S, I think the new Xperia S wins. really never tried that one though.. but Sony did a good job all over these years in between gadgets, and their new product will be an A-OK as usual
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Lol
S2 is much powerful and better than Xperia s also #UMADBRO?
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I've got a Galaxy S2 Skyrocket. (1.5 Ghz Dual Core, 1Gb Ram, LTE, 4.5 Inch Screen running ICS Leak) and my friends got an X10...
Get an S2 and your mind will be blown.

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Lol
S2 is much powerful and better than Xperia s also #UMADBRO?
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Really.. ahhh.. okay, sorry

I think I'll go for Xperia S in a few months, love that phone, I recommend you do that too, unless you like sammy's bricks

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I think I'll go for Xperia S in a few months, love that phone, I recommend you do that too, unless you like sammy's bricks
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Xperia s and x10 looks like a brick too
But that's my thinking, everyone thinks different
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Dude get the xperia s and get on with your life. You knouw you want to !

I am in the same place as yourself only my contract is up - today.
Xperia S is a non starter as it is a big ugly brick. The fruit phone is looking attractive (sadly). Roll on S3 I guess.

Bennachie said:
I am in the same place as yourself only my contract is up - today.
Xperia S is a non starter as it is a big ugly brick. The fruit phone is looking attractive (sadly). Roll on S3 I guess.
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Just wait and see what SGS3 have to offer

Bennachie said:
I am in the same place as yourself only my contract is up - today.
Xperia S is a non starter as it is a big ugly brick. The fruit phone is looking attractive (sadly). Roll on S3 I guess.
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lol are you kidding? Xperia S looks like an ugly brick? and Samsung Galaxy (the whole line) don't? then we differ greatly in our definition of the "ugly brick" expression, For me Xperia S is a nice stylish phone with more than enough great specs & performance & an awesome camera unless you want to have a ugly super fast piece of brick that you don't even have any use for that much of perf & power but to show-off your benchmark & stuff

riginal said:
lol are you kidding? Xperia S looks like an ugly brick? and Samsung Galaxy (the whole line) don't? then we differ greatly in our definition of the "ugly brick" expression, For me Xperia S is a nice stylish phone with more than enough great specs & performance & an awesome camera unless you want to have a ugly super fast piece of brick that you don't even have any use for that much of perf & power but to show-off your benchmark & stuff
@Sahib: Do you even have the X10 still or you're just hanging around here when you don't even have the device anymore just to bash Xperias & praise samsung?
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I am not that idiot that i will write a fake tapatalk sig
and as i said everyone thinks different and i think xperia s and x10 looks like fat bricks but arc was super sexy
I know why you say samsung phones looks like bricks because they are broad...But very thin too
First many people said all samsung high and low end devices looks same but now see all xperia 2012 looks same
I just had bad experience with first sony phone and great experience with samsung phone so its not always about power(and i care a lot about development too)
If you need a proof that i have x10 then see the image
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Xperia s and x10 looks like a brick too
But that's my thinking, everyone thinks different
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The Whole Samsung line looks like ugly bricks(and clones too) compared to the entire xperia line
Not even the x10 despite being fat looks ugly but with galaxies they all look ugly except for the first one(awesome performance on all of them though)
Imo the xperia line has the majority of best looking droids compared to other brands
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Ha!
You lot are no help at all! X10 an ugly brick? Have you gone mental? I can see how by todays standards it may be cumbersome but the X10 is over 2 years old, practicaly an antique as far as mobile phones go.
I am not really all that bothered about asthetics anyway. If I rated form over function I'd be on an iforum. I was kind of hoping that I'd get some discussion on processor speeds and ICS updates. 2 years ago I made the mistake of not checking first and almost ended up with a phone stuck in the doldrums of 2.1. I want to make sure this time that I get something that'll last the duration of the contract before becoming painfully outdated..
I spoke to my provider (Orange) and they were laughably uninformed, the guy thought I was joking when I asked about the Ice Cream Sandwich update! He asked what features I needed, I told him it would need to be Android and he offered me a Nokia? A Nokia for crying out loud! On the plus side they did tell me that I could have any phone I wanted free of charge, including the iPhone 5 if I'm willing to wait (my chance to ask if he was joking).
Easy root access would be a plus for me although not a necessity if the updates are quick in coming round. Thats why I was considering Motorolla what with the Google buy out and all (although still waiting for ICS on my Xoom [tut tut Google]).
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FormBee said:
Ha!
You lot are no help at all! X10 an ugly brick? Have you gone mental? I can see how by todays standards it may be cumbersome but the X10 is over 2 years old, practicaly an antique as far as mobile phones go.
I am not really all that bothered about asthetics anyway. If I rated form over function I'd be on an iforum. I was kind of hoping that I'd get some discussion on processor speeds and ICS updates. 2 years ago I made the mistake of not checking first and almost ended up with a phone stuck in the doldrums of 2.1. I want to make sure this time that I get something that'll last the duration of the contract before becoming painfully outdated..
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Dude, no matter which handset you settle on, it will definitely be outdated well before your contract expires, most handsets are lucky to last 6-12 months before the there a bigger and better one released, take itwat-phones for example there's guaranteed to be a new one released each year and even tho the brainwashed population are locked into a 2yr contract they all must have it! And if they don't crapple just push new IOS version to there old handset to lag the hell out of it so they are pretty much forced to upgrade. chumps haha
All in all i've had my X10a coming up 2 years, it was my first android device which taught me alot about android and now I wouldn't get anything but, and for what I currently use my X10 for its still very capable (with help from the brilliant devs on this site of course ), but yes, I would still love to upgrade to the latest tech but at the end of the day I don't desperately need too. Ive also had a XOOM but flicked it off for top dollar while i could after owning it 6 months once i heard rumours of the XOOM2.
Another thing, I do love the concept of the ASUS Padfone cause it basically covers all bases without having to buy 3 separate devices (smartphone, tablet, laptop) which could be a game changer, (answering phone calls with the stylus is pretty cool haha) but then you never hear much feedback about ASUS smartphones, even tho their tablets seem to get alot of great reviews. But Im leaning towards that myself (wanting a new phone and another tablet eventually) but If a better known phone manufacturer came to the table with something like that I would be all over it.

Of course it will be outdated at the end of the contract. Thing is though I'v had my X10 for 2 years and it only just over the last few months has started to feel outdated (and that is only because of the ICS update), but this is due to luck (Sony Ericcson relenting) rater than design (me doing some research before deciding on a handset). So I thought I would swot up so I could make an informed decision.
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Most phones all have similar specs I can only think of three different types of cpu's in mobiles I guess four if you count the apple cpu. Point is find something that you think is nice looking and feels good in your had. I never buy in contract so it is harder for me to try before i buy. But if you buy inside a contract make sure that you make a call or two before you buy it that way you know if the sound is good for you. I tend to buy a phone that has good support here in xda and the sony xperia s is only released in one or four countries right now and already has a pretty good start. I am leaning towards the p4s or ascend quad. P4 I like because I want to try a phone with gorilla glass. Samsung has some nice phones out.

Anyone got experience of the HTC one x? It looks awesome.
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No ICS for Sony Ericsson Xperia Play. Boycott Sony

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This page is for people disappointed by S/Fonys (formerly Sony Ericsson) decision to pull the Xperia Play from the ICS update list, several months after committing to it.
For those Xperia Play users our there, make sure Sony knows you won't forget this and won't just be walked over.
Join the boycott. #SONYmakeforget

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Join the boycott. #SONYmakeforget
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Umm, it's a little late for that. They got your money for the Xperia Play, and since there are few enough of us Play users, our boycott will not many any bit of a difference to Sony.

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Umm, it's a little late for that. They got your money for the Xperia Play, and since there are few enough of us Play users, our boycott will not many any bit of a difference to Sony.
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Just because they already got our money for the Xperia Play doesn't mean we can't deny them any future custom.
If its a choice out of doing something but failing or doing nothing and being a doormat, I choose the former. Each to their own.

I'll be getting the Hayabusa.

Its threads like these that are making me loose faith in most of the Xplay community.

Leraeniesh said:
Its threads like these that are making me loose faith in most of the Xplay community.
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Its posts like these that help me understand why companies get away with half of the antics they currently get away with. Damn fanboys

LordBattleBeard said:
Its posts like these that help me understand why companies get away with half of the antics they currently get away with. Damn fanboys
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What's with this sense of entitlement? You bought a product. You didn't sign a contract. Sony can make any call they want. As much as you don't like it, Sony did it to help xperia users. You'd probably want to boycott Sony if they released ICS and it was worse than gingerbread. Just cut the crap with these stupid threads.
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I bought the xplay on the commitment given by sony that the phone would see the ICS update. Sure, no contract but definitely covered under consumer law here in the UK.
As much as you don't like it, not everyone believes every word Sony says as if its holy scripture. Nor does everyone believe that they put enough effort into fulfilling their commitment to update the device.
To answer your last comment; no.

Boycott???
Please, grow up.

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Join the boycott.
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Erm......no! Grow up. So we don't get one meaningless update. Why is this bothering people so much? If Sony didn't announce that we were getting it, people wouldn't care. There's still gonna be custom ICS roms, so what's the problem?
What's worse are the babies who say they're never buying Sony phones again. Over one update? Ok, by all means give up on the best make of phones over one little update.

Miles Wolf said:
Boycott???
Please, grow up.
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Yes Mr Wolf, boycott.
I am not boycotting Sony, but ppl who do have reason, the Other OS PS3 thing, the X10 eclair/froyo thing, and now this.
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KeiranFTW said:
Yes Mr Wolf, boycott.
I am not boycotting Sony, but ppl who do have reason, the Other OS PS3 thing, the X10 eclair/froyo thing, and now this.
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Other OS on PS3 annoyed the hell outta me. Due to not having a laptop at the time my PS3 became my desktop. Then they removed it...Then my PS3 broke
Then I started using OnLive instead well, abusing the 30min Free Trials XD
Still, I'm not boycotting. Sony have a good reason for not updating. However, I do think they should release the code that they have now so that devs can work on it some more for people who want it.
Me, I'm sticking to Gingerbread...Makes my games work

Miles Wolf said:
Boycott???
Please, grow up.
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Always bound to hit a nerve with some fanboys. Come again
The Alpha Gamer said:
Erm......no! Grow up. So we don't get one meaningless update. Why is this bothering people so much? If Sony didn't announce that we were getting it, people wouldn't care. There's still gonna be custom ICS roms, so what's the problem?
What's worse are the babies who say they're never buying Sony phones again. Over one update? Ok, by all means give up on the best make of phones over one little update.
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If your fine with the news, good for you, im glad. As it happens, some of us aren't, that's ok also... see how that works?
You need to realize that not everyone shares your every opinion or view on some things, deal with it
KeiranFTW said:
Yes Mr Wolf, boycott.
I am not boycotting Sony, but ppl who do have reason, the Other OS PS3 thing, the X10 eclair/froyo thing, and now this.
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This. Though you forgot to mention the YLOD on the original phat PS3s.
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Other OS on PS3 annoyed the hell outta me. Due to not having a laptop at the time my PS3 became my desktop. Then they removed it...Then my PS3 broke
Then I started using OnLive instead well, abusing the 30min Free Trials XD
Still, I'm not boycotting. Sony have a good reason for not updating. However, I do think they should release the code that they have now so that devs can work on it some more for people who want it.
Me, I'm sticking to Gingerbread...Makes my games work
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No ones forcing anyone to join the boycott mate. Your entitled to your own views on the matter and I respect that.
As for Sony releasing their source for it, I'd say there is more chance in Syria stop killing their own people. Not very likely in other words.

I'm in on the boat. Quite frankly - if I had known Xplay to not get any update I would consider buying a phone that would or already has like G.Nexus. I thought since X.play will be on par in terms of software why the heck not when I'm getting the gamepad.
What sony did was -dare I say- fraudulent. They have advertised on false information - on the premise of which people have - TRUSTED - and bought their phone. That is a VERY legit reason to be pissed about.

KeiranFTW said:
Yes Mr Wolf, boycott.
I am not boycotting Sony, but ppl who do have reason, the Other OS PS3 thing, the X10 eclair/froyo thing, and now this.
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First of all, if we are not getting ICS is not directly Sony's fault:
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Let's start from the beginning. The Play, from a pure hardware view, can run ICS. Sony, HTC and other companies are releasing hardware with ICS and lower specs than the Play (Tapioca, Desire C). We've seen that the beta runs mighty fine in the performance department, and it's obvious that the job can be finished if Sony cares to do so.
However, this is a matter of the gaming ecosystem. In short: the only companies Sony cares about are the big names like EA, Gameloft, Rockstar, etc. as they make the big majority of the Play game sales.
However, with regard to development, the Play is not important to those big names: they see it as "the redheaded stepchild Android", because they have to make extra effort to make it work with the game pads, instead of easily deploying the code in it like they do in the whole different platforms they code for (not only mobile phones, but smart TV's, console-related app stores, Steam and so on). Sony bribed those big developers with a lot of cash (remember all those free EA games and temporary exclusives?) so that the Play remained visible.
Fast forward to now. Gingerbread is present in a good 60% of Android Play Store-running hardware. ICS has only like.a 4%. Android is the best selling platform, with, let's say 500 million active devices. If my numbers are not wrong, that gives 300M GB devices 20M ICS ones. Developing with ICS in mind implies higher development costs, because you have to study the new features and use them. And of course, big name developers target wide audiences: by default they'll program with Gingerbread in mind, so they couldn't care less about ICS right now.
Someone mentioned Windows 7 incompatibility with old games: there is actually a Compatibility mode which was mainly designed for the purpose of using older games. Now Steam has taken care of that, which suits MS fine.
With the ICS upgrade, Sony probably contacted their "partners" and asked them to update their software (basically switch from the Sony custom gamepad framework to Google's standard one which Sony probably contributed themselves) for it to work properly in ICS, like they do in Sony gaming platforms. But unlike the PlayStations, it's those big name developers who are in control now, particularly in Android. Therefore, they showed Sony the middle finger.
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TL;DR this is a power struggle between Sony and the big name game developers. The latter have won here, at the expense of the users. Support independent developers but make sure they don't make the "big name" status, because they'll get the need to control everything and screw users like this.
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So I don't know why the hell you should boycott Sony, while they where trully wanting to launch the update (there you have the beta as a proof of it).
Second, the Sony that disabled the "Other OS" option on PS3 (Sony Computer Entertainment) is not the same Sony that decided to not launch ICS (Sony Mobile), so don't mix these two things, because it's like saying "OMG that movie from Sony Pictures is horrible, I'll boycott Sony without buying any of their smartphones!". Lol.
Ah, and as last point, the called "YLOD" (Yellow Light Of Death) of PS3 that somebody said is not the same as the red lights of death of Xbox 360. The YLOD was the most of times just a warning from the console, and not a signal of fatal failure. My PS3 showed the YLOD once and after disconnecting and reconnecting it here it is working fine since 2006 when I bought it.

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Interesting statements from Sony:
Back in the early days of Android upgrades, the company decided not to provide the Android 2.2 upgrade to its Xperia X10 phone -- which launched three months after the 2.2 platform's release -- saying that it believed "the features included in the Android 2.1 phone" were "on par with, and in many cases better than, a vanilla installation of 2.2." Um, right.
Sounds familiar?

Nocturnuz said:
I'm in on the boat. Quite frankly - if I had known Xplay to not get any update I would consider buying a phone that would or already has like G.Nexus. I thought since X.play will be on par in terms of software why the heck not when I'm getting the gamepad.
What sony did was -dare I say- fraudulent. They have advertised on false information - on the premise of which people have - TRUSTED - and bought their phone. That is a VERY legit reason to be pissed about.
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Precisely this. I suspect people wouldn't have been half as mad if they hadn't promised it beforehand. I certainly wouldn't have been because I simply wouldn't have bought it without some sort of commitment to at least one big update. It was the last and most important factor in why I took the plunge and bought the phone.
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First of all, if we are not getting ICS is not directly Sony's fault:
So I don't know why the hell you should boycott Sony, while they where trully wanting to launch the update (there you have the beta as a proof of it).
Second, the Sony that disabled the "Other OS" option on PS3 (Sony Computer Entertainment) is not the same Sony that decided to not launch ICS (Sony Mobile), so don't mix these two things, because it's like saying "OMG that movie from Sony Pictures is horrible, I'll boycott Sony without buying any of their smartphones!". Lol.
Ah, and as last point, the called "YLOD" (Yellow Light Of Death) of PS3 that somebody said is not the same as the red lights of death of Xbox 360. The YLOD was the most of times just a warning from the console, and not a signal of fatal failure. My PS3 showed the YLOD once and after disconnecting and reconnecting it here it is working fine since 2006 when I bought it.
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Your view is based on taking Sony on their word. I have a hard time trusting them on it for various reasons, least of which because it just sounds like a half arsed excuse to me.
As for the beta, the idea of a beta is to find problems and bugs and make efforts towards resolving them with further builds, when did that happen? we sure as hell didn't see or hear about that happening. It seems to me as though the Sony dev dept realised it wouldnt just be a simple bodge job with the Play and bailed out without any real effort at it. Again, this is my view... you're welcome to disagree.
Although I didn't make that point, and I do agree that they are ofcourse different things, the two incidents were handled by the same company and so the reputation carries and is relevent.
Onto the YLOD, good for you... nobody I know with a 1st gen PS3 was so lucky (myself included). Do a quick search on ebay and see how many PS3s are being sold as faulty with the YLOD issue.
I couldn't care less whether these issues are linked to Sony, Microsoft, Apple, Samsung, whoever... loyalty to any company is a mugs game. I'll take issue when any of them when they take decisions that I don't agree with.
Nocturnuz said:
Interesting statements from Sony:
Back in the early days of Android upgrades, the company decided not to provide the Android 2.2 upgrade to its Xperia X10 phone -- which launched three months after the 2.2 platform's release -- saying that it believed "the features included in the Android 2.1 phone" were "on par with, and in many cases better than, a vanilla installation of 2.2." Um, right.
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Very familiar. Its actions like these that don't instil trust and reinforce peoples reluctance to trust them on their word.

I don't want to be taking sides. But there are still people who don't want to gamble with flashing custom ROMS and stick to 'stock-with-a-little-mod' ROMS. And by that I mean stock ROM with bloatware removed, launcher modified, and the like.
Just like me. For now I don't think I could gamble with playing around with my phone. Nonetheless, I think I'm pretty satisfied with the GB I have now. I admit I'm a lil disappointed with Sony pulling the plug on the Xperia PLAY. But hell, I'm contented with my GB. I don't think I can stand a day with my phone showing off epic UI but can't even properly play my games. After all, the PLAY was supposed to show off with games, not some fancy UI. End of story.