so the streak has been released in the US now and for quite some time in the UK/euro and nothing has changed.
we got a few companys making cases that are neither unique or exciting but basically we are still stuck with a niche device with a small user base. now i love my streak but i cant help but feel is only a matter of time before it gets pulled from sale and all support/updates axed. i know at the moment its a hot device but you have to admit there is a air of death in the air compared to say the galaxy S.
i hope im wrong but i really dont think i am.
Isnt 2.2 suppose to be released in September for streaks in America? Then again I don't think it's confirmed. Once 2.2 is out things should speed up also the fact the streak doesn't appeal to a massive audience it seems to appeal more to us geeks that's all we need. It shouldnt be to long before dell release the source i would imagine.
Also no offense to the galaxy s but it has its fair share of problems and that really doesn't do it any favors so I wouldn't be writing about that .
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if Dell get the marketing right they could have a hit on their hands. here in the UK i've been out the field the last week (literally, camping) and the Streak proved it's mettle and a great talking point. now, at this juncture i think Dell suffer a bit from being branded a "box shifter" but i honestly think if Dell get their values correct with the Streak it will be around for a long time.
however, i am the first to admit that Dell does not have a great track record at leading a category - they tend to do whatever Microsoft and intel tell them to do (to the tune of a few tens of millions of dollars if anyone's been following the court case).
you just know when Apple release a 5" pocket computerphone that the pod people will buoy the marketing along for Apple ... Dell just does not inspire that kind of loyalty, or, is/has been getting the grass roots/astroturfing balancing act totally wrong.
It very much reminds me the story of N900.
Great hardware with great potential killed by the lack of interest of manufacturer, caused by the inability of big corporations to follow up on innovation.
I think the reason it does not move so fast at the moment is the lack if an updated os, but having mine for about an week now, I have to say the old os is somehow conceiled very good. The only lacks are the newest features that I have become used to via eclair and froyo..
And I am very sure that a lot of people are waiting to buy until froyo arrives. And as more and more people get tech interested, these " niche" gadgets get more popular.. So my two cents say that Dell will have the success they intended with the device.
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Godo_PPL said:
So my two cents say that Dell will have the success they intended with the device.
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I just don't see it. This device caters to geeks basically. Most consumers don't want a gigantic phone. My personal experiences have been normal consumers saying the device is too big, too ugly, and too niche.
uberamd said:
I just don't see it. This device caters to geeks basically. Most consumers don't want a gigantic phone. My personal experiences have been normal consumers saying the device is too big, too ugly, and too niche.
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This is what I heard from a regular Mac+iPhone user. And non-pocketable.
Until he took streak to a hand noticing how thin it is. And it fits into my pocket! Amazing. And the touch screen is very nice...
Overall reception was "it's not that stupid as it looks"
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I think the reason it does not move so fast at the moment is the lack if an updated os
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It bugs me that so many reviewers cite old "firmware" (presumably they mean OS) as a reason to mark down the Streak. That's a crap reason, and a hallmark of a crap reviewer IMHO. I bought my Streak over the Desire because I knew that any (ok... most) software issues can and will be corrected, either by Dell or by us lot over here... but no software update will allow the Desire to browse the internet so comfortably, or be a reasonable e-reader, or enhance the (slightly) weaker battery, or make it such a beautiful platform for CoPilot, etc. In face, the only thing I did not like was the proprietary connector (because that can't be fixed by software). That is, until I found out it's a PDMI port.
A friend of mine recently crowed about updating his Desire to Froyo. I asked if it'd upgraded him to a 5" screen. He looked sad.
I just can't help feeling that over the next few months, we will find the Streak becoming greater and greater as cooked ROMs emerge. Good times ahead.
Honestly I think our best hope for Froyo is to keep bugging Dell about their GPL violations until they release their source so the community can get it up and running themselves (and yes, that's not such a great option either). Given what I have seen so far, I wouldn't really trust Dell on this.
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so the streak has been released in the US now and for quite some time in the UK/euro and nothing has changed.
we got a few companys making cases that are neither unique or exciting but basically we are still stuck with a niche device with a small user base. now i love my streak but i cant help but feel is only a matter of time before it gets pulled from sale and all support/updates axed. i know at the moment its a hot device but you have to admit there is a air of death in the air compared to say the galaxy S.
i hope im wrong but i really dont think i am.
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You are not wrong. And that's why I haven't bought one yet. I even get a 10% Dell discount because I'm a student. But the lack of buzz and adoption of the Streak almost guarantees it to obscurity or failure. At that time I'll happily pick one up. I feel it's just priced too high and will slide down the closer we get to super/hot/awesome/fire greatness or the next thing. I'd like it to succeed as well, but I think Dell has screwed this from the start.
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I just don't see it. This device caters to geeks basically. Most consumers don't want a gigantic phone. My personal experiences have been normal consumers saying the device is too big, too ugly, and too niche.
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I will assume the idea from Dell was not to release this as an "mainstream" device, but a device to appeal to geeks and such. It is no way that Dell thinks 5" is a phone for the mass market!
I am pretty sure this is a device launched to make Dell look like an serious actor to be reckoned with in the future. Genius would I say starting on the top of the pack.
But, just my opinion....
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I feel it's just priced too high and will slide down the closer we get to super/hot/awesome/fire greatness or the next thing.
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Well you get a lot more for your money than an HTC Desire, Samsung Galaxy or an iphone,
suposed to be the greatest phones ever
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the Streak makes them look 'tacky n nasty little boys toys', which is what they are.
The Streak is like owning a top of the range BMW, you're not going to find accessories for it in Halfords/Wallmart
With a lot of bug...
I think the real failure in north america is the device is locked to at&t used only.
At the end, it's a nice device to have.
I think that is a good product too but the network driver is very buggy in 2.1 (8023) and if this release is the final release, it's a very bad things....
It is BMW not finished.....
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the network driver is very buggy in 2.1 (8023) and if this release is the final release, it's a very bad things....
It is BMW not finished.....
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Well that's not finished yet either you muppet.
I don't think i've ever visited a forum where people download an OBVIOUSLY UNFINISHED AND UNTESTED ITEM then all winge about it
All the BS about it being official and how you should send the 'leaker' a donation makes me want to puke.
NEWS: the official one (when released) will be mentioned on the official websites, them being Dell or 02 themselves which will have a link, might be a bit obvious for some!
If Dell Streak owners are all that gullible, i'm going to start buying all the old first release 1.6 seconhand ones on ebay i can find, install 2.1 then sell them as BNIB just delivered from factory. As they obviously believe everything they are told.
In the End
I'm going with ATT, t-mobile is foobared on this phone
mirrdhyn said:
I think that is a good product too but the network driver is very buggy in 2.1 (8023) and if this release is the final release, it's a very bad things....
It is BMW not finished.....
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On my X5 they had to exchange 2 shocks in the first 18 months (fortunately they did for free even though after the warranty expired).
Besides, was there ever a perfect product?? Look at the iphone, took them a whole year just to get cut and paste, 3 years to get even basic multi-tasking.
cut and paste are not here on my Dell Streak...
Only on specific application but not on email...
Yes, I know that this build is a "beta" but from this topic and an other this build (8023) is a GM build, isn't it ?
So, If this build is a GM, I think the network driver is not finished, that all !
I have full network at home with my iPhone and my HTC and my Dell Streak too, but I lost the network on my Dell Streak frequently...
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Besides, was there ever a perfect product?? Look at the iphone, took them a whole year just to get cut and paste, 3 years to get even basic multi-tasking.
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And it's still a pos, totally buoyed up by advertising and hype....
I think it's cool that the streak it's under promoted.. makes me laugh when people ask if it's an iPhone, then when I laugh ask is it a HTC then?
Tbh community is what makes a great device, I've said it before and will repeat it again, dell could really do something amazing and really get involved with the community to work together to make it an amazing device..
experts knowledge and volunteer enthusiasm makes a formidable team.
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This phone has obviously got **** loads of issues, if it wasent for this forum then It would have been a piece of junk.
I have hopes that HTC will bring out firmware but now with this new Nexus kicking off im asking myself what support can we expect from HTC who is now fully in joint support with Googles Android.
From a business point of view it makes sense to realise that the HD2 was in fact a failure and to offer only the bare minimum support to enable a success of the nexus one.
Just like Vodafone decided to axe the HD2 and now a nice news flash comes through that Vodafone UK will be offering the Nexus one, which just further supports my theory.
Having said that I wonder if after enough complaining i would be able to get a Nexus one as like for like replacement for my HD2.
I was firm supporter of WM but with the current situation i cannot imagine HTC being arsed about a flawed product and development for WM7 either when they just done this Android deal.
Suppose the only real problem i have with android is unable to run TOMTOM.
Lets have a banter your views are welcome.
HTC will not lay its eggs in one basket
HD2 is a flawed product?
lmao. Get a grip man.
You do know most people who post on forums, post because they are unhappy with something.
There are plenty of people out there who think the HD2 is the best phone that they've ever owned, just because they dont clog up the forum with posts on how happy they are (or because they actually RTFM) doesnt make the device a piece of junk.
Thank you
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This phone has obviously got **** loads of issues, if it wasent for this forum then It would have been a piece of junk.
I was firm supporter of WM but with the current situation i cannot imagine HTC being arsed about a flawed product and development for WM7 either when they just done this Android deal.
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What type of ****load issue are you gripping about? This piece of flawed junk can beat the ****load out of iphone anytime.
DMAND said:
You do know most people who post on forums, post because they are unhappy with something.
There are plenty of people out there who think the HD2 is the best phone that they've ever owned, just because they dont clog up the forum with posts on how happy they are (or because they actually RTFM) doesnt make the device a piece of junk.
Thank you
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People that write on forums are tech savy and know whats cooking other people use it as a ****ing IPhone to show off, and cant be arsed about what it can actualy achieve.
The reception on this Phone is ****, Period! your an idiot that hasnt payed attention to it if u havent noticed. phone keeps on going should i go H no 3g no G no H no 3g no G it keeps on cycling through it like a spac when using data
The H reception is on 1 bar where with another phone on same providor its on full 5 bars.
conencting to my WIFI router i get oh waite ... 10% signal level. what does my laptop get thats in the same spot? ****ign 90% full speed.
The SMS issue where it takes ages to load messages is a FACT
SMS get stuck in the outbox and sends after x days ???!?!?!
Camera flash is OVEREXPOSED upclose night shots
All these faults has been Confirmed by other members on this forum, so dont go telling me its not a flawed product.
Edited rude name calling out, appologies.
hmm nice attitude.
seems we have another little troll.. please dont feed him
Vodafone is getting the nexus via google not via htc..they drop the hd2 because of apple request..
Roguexmg said:
This phone has obviously got **** loads of issues, if it wasent for this forum then It would have been a piece of junk.
Strange, but people who have not even heard of XDA-Developers, such as Chinese speakers in Taiwan who have the HD2 would strongly disagree with you.
I have hopes that HTC will bring out firmware but now with this new Nexus kicking off im asking myself what support can we expect from HTC who is now fully in joint support with Googles Android.
From a business point of view it makes sense to realise that the HD2 was in fact a failure and to offer only the bare minimum support to enable a success of the nexus one.
I suggest you do a search on Peter Chou's recent interviews. He is HTC's CEO. Since he has a better idea of what HTC is up to, I am inclined to believe what he says, not what you conceive to be reality.
Just like Vodafone decided to axe the HD2 and now a nice news flash comes through that Vodafone UK will be offering the Nexus one, which just further supports my theory.
Have you read any of the early reviews of the Nexus One?
Having said that I wonder if after enough complaining i would be able to get a Nexus one as like for like replacement for my HD2.
I was firm supporter of WM but with the current situation i cannot imagine HTC being arsed about a flawed product and development for WM7 either when they just done this Android deal.
Again, do a search on Peter Chou's recent interviews.
Suppose the only real problem i have with android is unable to run TOMTOM.
Lets have a banter your views are welcome.
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If you hate your HD2 so much why don't you just send it over my way.
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well said
Roguexmg said:
People that write on forums are tech savy and know whats cooking other people use it as a ****ing IPhone to show off, and cant be arsed about what it can actualy achieve.
The reception on this Phone is ****, Period! your an idiot that hasnt payed attention to it if u havent noticed. phone keeps on going should i go H no 3g no G no H no 3g no G it keeps on cycling through it like a spac when using data
The H reception is on 1 bar where with another phone on same providor its on full 5 bars.
conencting to my WIFI router i get oh waite ... 10% signal level. what does my laptop get thats in the same spot? ****ign 90% full speed.
The SMS issue where it takes ages to load messages is a FACT, once again if u havent noticed its because u have no friends and get no messages.
SMS get stuck in the outbox and sends after x days ???!?!?! once again u have no friends so u havent noticed.
Camera flash is OVEREXPOSED upclose night shots, once again sorry u have no friends so u would not have noticed once again as these features have no use to you.
All these faults has been Confirmed by other members on this forum, so dont go telling me its not a flawed product.
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Well written, Steven Paul Jobs . Yes, its been confirmed by other member. So far ONE, and counting.
There are definately issues with this phone.....T-Mobile can't be bothered to release a Rom update they say that it is undergoing thorough testing....so we will probably get it when Windows mobile 90 comes out in the year 2090.
I agree with Rougue but I don't think that name calling and offensive language solve anything
I think you should just calm down, you're entitled to your opinion but don't expect everyone to share it.
Your first post said "your views are welcome.", clearly they are not, as you can't handle them.
Request MOD lock, as this thread serves no purpose.
rlydiard said:
If you hate your HD2 so much why don't you just send it over my way.
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Why will you fix all these issues for me.
as for the rest
Yea i am p'd off because i was going to get the Samsung Omnia 2 but then saw the HTC hd2 and i realy enjoyed my HTC touch cruise. So I waited a long time, read reviews and all that changed provider to Vodafone paying top dollar even though i get 40% discount on Orange contract just to be presented a sheep in wolves clothing after extensive use and being told oh no these faults are phantom and dont exist, yea right
Thanks for the feedback im looking forward to reading CEO Peter Chou's interviews which no doubt is filled with deceit of the 9th kind.
I have a temper excuse my outbursts
HTC have been quitely making phones for many companies behind the scenes for years. Over the last few years they have (quite rightly IMHO) "come out" as a top flight device designer and fabricator. They don't stick to one operating system and I don't think ever will. What your service provider decides to do is entirely outwith the control of HTC, who, i suspect, will continue to design and sell the highest quality products in all "open source" operating systems under their own name as well as proprietary OS's for other vendors.
Have Vodafone actually supported you as a customer to the same level that HTC has to us who bought unlocked phones? For me, Vodaphone have never supported Windows Mobile properly. My Omnia only ever had 1 update from them which is why I decided to buy unlocked this time. I still have a contract with Vodafone and will get a free upgrade from my Omnia when my contract allows but no matter what I choose i do not believe that it will be supported as well as an unlocked handset.
Most devices have issues, these are released very quickly into an aggressive market. For me it is how a company responds to these things that is important. Service providers, for me, just cannot provide that support. HTC are not perfect but I chose to "early adopt". In technology we used to always say never buy version 1 of anything, always wait for services packs to come out and be implemented ina new version release. Early adopters are known to be at the bleeding edge, and this can be messy, but fun at times.
Please note that this is my opinion, stated in a respectful manner. I make no claims to speak for every HD2 user, mobile phone maker or service provider in the wordls. I speak from my personal experience. I do not republish 3rd hand gossip from other sites and pretend I have inside knowledge. My HD2 is not perfect, it's the best phone I have ever had though.
Regards.
I have had issues posted... and I fixed all of them with stuff I found here... I consider it tweaking
My flash shots are fine, WiFi is good (you wont get a better signal with the Nexus... its all HTC hardware!), NO issues with radio, I use WM sms instead of HTC... I get all my sent notifications and it ALWAYS gets sent.... I love my phone! I am also faster with Swype on my keyboard than if you gave me a ISheep to txt with....
Now, having said all that, I MAY consider buying a Nexus in the next incarnation once they offer Multitouch, a screen the size of my HD2, the same thickness of my HD2 and when even more Android apps hit the market. I am really impressed by some of the stuff Android has been coming out with and the speed of the OS (On the Snapdragon chip of course)... Qualcomm is coming out with 1.5 mobile chips soon! I can't imagine what that would do for our WM and Android devices!
Even if I bought one, I would use it as an alternative to my WM phone (HD2 for today). Its only cause I love the WM platform so much cause of the ability to tweak and ek out more performance/customization.... if you don't like that kind of thing, NEVER buy a WM phone! I also have all the software I need already for my daily use! If my foray into the Android platform keeps me happy (with alternatives to apps I am using now and newer fun stuff), I MAY consider a move....
My final word... the Nexus 1 is a fine phone it seems... however, its lacking just a little IMHO to get me to even consider it at this point... its darned close though... WM needs to buck up and wow us with WM7 or they may even lose some hardened WM users like me... maybe
Roguexmg said:
Why will you fix all these issues for me.
as for the rest
Yea i am p'd off because i was going to get the Samsung Omnia 2 but then saw the HTC hd2 and i realy enjoyed my HTC touch cruise. So I waited a long time, read reviews and all that changed provider to Vodafone paying top dollar even though i get 40% discount on Orange contract just to be presented a sheep in wolves clothing after extensive use and being told oh no these faults are phantom and dont exist, yea right
Thanks for the feedback im looking forward to reading CEO Peter Chou's interviews which no doubt is filled with deceit of the 9th kind.
I have a temper excuse my outbursts
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Perhaps you are unlucky and received a model that should have not passed QC, and it seems your carrier is not supporting you to your satisfaction.
I do suggest you just sell your HD2 and get a phone that will not make you blow your cool.
No matter what type of temper you have it is no excuse for denigrating Peter Chou's integrity.
There's always one isn't there, Mr Angry
Roguexmg said:
This phone has obviously got **** loads of issues, if it wasent for this forum then It would have been a piece of junk.
I have hopes that HTC will bring out firmware but now with this new Nexus kicking off im asking myself what support can we expect from HTC who is now fully in joint support with Googles Android.
From a business point of view it makes sense to realise that the HD2 was in fact a failure and to offer only the bare minimum support to enable a success of the nexus one.
Just like Vodafone decided to axe the HD2 and now a nice news flash comes through that Vodafone UK will be offering the Nexus one, which just further supports my theory.
Having said that I wonder if after enough complaining i would be able to get a Nexus one as like for like replacement for my HD2.
I was firm supporter of WM but with the current situation i cannot imagine HTC being arsed about a flawed product and development for WM7 either when they just done this Android deal.
Suppose the only real problem i have with android is unable to run TOMTOM.
Lets have a banter your views are welcome.
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What a load of bull! The HD2 is the BEST PHONE AT THE MOMENT! Vodafone could simply not meet the huge demands for the HD2, plus they had Apple biting their heads off cos the HD2 was going to crush Iphone sales at Voda. That is the reason why they pulled.
I have to say, I think the HD2 is the absolute best thing ever, i have had the iphone and various other htc`s and by far this is the best.
I admit i must be one of the lucky ones as i havent had a single problem so far and have customized it to my exact needs, so to me it is flawless !
I`m not geeky but i just love the way there is always something to learn and add and tweek, when i had the iphone all you had to do was wait until the next app to come out that kept you busy for the next 5 mins ? its a phone that is all colours and glitz to me, and it didnt work for what so ever and many friends have had so many problems with them its untrue. but we could be here forever battling over phones, it is totally personel preference.
but i just wanted to add my pennies worth by backing the hd2 and as stated previously most people do just post about problems they are having or had and not posting about how well things are going...
i wish you all the best with your new phone :
I apologize for making another "I'm mad at Samsung for..." thread, but after trying for the past hours to get the JI5 update and failing, I'm a bit angrier than I usually am and want to hurt Samsung somewhere where they will feel it while not going to extremes like trying to organize a class action suit.
Ever since the Galaxy S line came out they really haven't done much to support it except release 3 buggy updates for three of the phones and completely ignore the one that's been out in the States for the longest (until the "made you look" event of today), yet they're so eager to show off that Galaxy Tab that they want everyone to be interested in and buy next month. I suggest simply spreading the word to everyone that no one should but that thing until they at least get their house in order and get the Galaxy S line up to the basic functionality they should have had out of the box. Spread the word that they apparently can't support the products they release and that nobody should touch those things until they can prove they are going to stand behind the products they want us to spend our hard earned money on.
Before some of you start flaming me, I do very well know this is a forum for people who mod their phones and have no intention of staying stock. I mod my phones too. Even with the fixes I've flashed I still have issues with GPS and the phone resetting. I appreciate everything the community has done to help make these phones better and I whole heartedly thank them for doing so, but at the same time there's a whole company with a division of people getting paid to do this that hasn't been able to supply us with one good fix after nearly 3 months time. It's time we should make every potential customer aware of that.
I'm boycotting the U.S. release of the Galaxy Tab, but only because I find the fact that all 4 U.S. carriers disabling the phone functions of the thing (the international version won't have this limitation) as a hugely retarded move.
I'm not interested in carrying around 2 huge slabs-o-touchscreen all the darn time. If I were I'd be an iDiot and worship Steve Jobs.
That's understandable, personally I could care less about being able to make calls on tablet. It's not like you would be able to take calls on both your cell phone and the tablet. And I sure wouldn't care for having another phone number.
I love my iPad btw!
masterotaku said:
I'm boycotting the U.S. release of the Galaxy Tab, but only because I find the fact that all 4 U.S. carriers disabling the phone functions of the thing (the international version won't have this limitation) as a hugely retarded move.
I'm not interested in carrying around 2 huge slabs-o-touchscreen all the darn time. If I were I'd be an iDiot and worship Steve Jobs.
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Why would you carry it around if you can't use it as a phone?
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To be honest I am not surprised they are disabling the calling feature. In fact I would be surprised if they didn't.
I mean I for one wouldn't want to stop using my vibrant to use that giant tablet.
Also no matter what it will have wifi so it can be more like a laptop on the go and playing games on it will be awesome from the looks of it.
Well if they are just disabling the feature then that means the hardware to make calls is still built in so someone could root it and make calls anyway. But I'm still not getting one cause it'll be just like my phone. Tablets are a median of a phone and a notebook but nowadays the Ipad is the best out.
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Can't say I'm feeling pouty and petulant about Samsung in general, but I crossed four Tabs off my Xmas list when they announced the phone functionality was disabled.
As for the frequent comments about the Tab being too large to use as a phone, I use my phone as a speakerphone most of the time, and Bluetooth headsets put the final nail in the coffin for that argument.
I really doubt the S Tab will sell much anyway.
Smaller screen than the iPad, lower resolution, considerably worse battery life, for almost the same price....
Plus, given our experience with Samsung, it will probably not be upgraded to Gingerbread, which according to Google is the first version of Android actually meant for tablets.
Who in their right mind will buy the Tab?
What made me mad is they have more accessories slated for that thing than the very phones they already have out.
Docks, keyboards and all kinds of goodies. Oh yeah they all plug into the bottom of the Tab not the top like our retarded phones.
hurrpancakes said:
Why would you carry it around if you can't use it as a phone?
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Exactly!
Since it's functionally crippled compared to it's European counterpart I don't plan on carrying one around.
It's an interesting device, and will probably have a modicum of success, but the deliberate lockdown of an existing feature is one that makes me uninterested in it.
Given that it's carrier unsubsidized pricing internationally is likely going to make it more expensive than the iPad, if I were to develop an interest in an Android tablet/mid that didn't support phone functions, I'd just SPEND LESS MONEY on a comparable 7" tablet that doesn't have phone functions. There are several...
Huge flaw with Samsung tablet, not sure if mentioned
At the moment pretty much every App available doesn't even support the tablets 1024x600 resolution so they will be to small for the screen or will stretch and look like crap.
demo23019 said:
Huge flaw with Samsung tablet, not sure if mentioned
At the moment pretty much every App available doesn't even support the tablets 1024x600 resolution so they will be to small for the screen or will stretch and look like crap.
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I can make everything in an app support that higher res, and I font even consider myself a dev... More of a file mover.. But there are tutorials and some apps are already compatible...
Remember when donut and froyo came out not all apps were compatible.. Some apps dont work on donut now...
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WTF does this have to do with the Vibrant? Oh, can all of you stop blaming everything on Samsung? It seems like only half the people on this forum has sense and understands that T-Mobile makes the final call on updates.
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WTF does this have to do with the Vibrant? Oh, can all of you stop blaming everything on Samsung? It seems like only half the people on this forum has sense and understands that T-Mobile makes the final call on updates.
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Dude, you are drawn to these threads like a fly is to sh!t!
T-Mobile has its problems, but what about the rest of the companies carrying the Galaxy S? Have any released Froyo, or successful compass fixes?
No? Must be a worldwide carrier conspiracy to make Samsung look bad, by delaying fixes and OS upgrades.....
No, Samsung's track records with product support just sucks. That's why some are pissed.
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Wait a second, let me get this straight. You are upset because an unofficial, probably beta quality firmware wasn't available properly through a piece of software that hasn't been released to the US market yet?
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Wait a second, let me get this straight. You are upset because an unofficial, probably beta quality firmware wasn't available properly through a piece of software that hasn't been released to the US market yet?
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Nice troll, since I don't believe you are actually as stupid as you're trying to get us to believe.
No, we're all pissed off about Samsung's crappy support. I bought a phone with a GPS built in. I can't use my GPS because it doesn't work.
A little fact which has been repeatedly explained to you. So either you choose to ignore it so you can troll more, or you have major issues with reading comprehension, take your pick.
And, as I said elsewhere, no one forced you to bring your fanboi self into this thread.
I'll hold out for MOTO or HTC
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That's great, let's organize a boycott of something that 99.9% of people have no plan to purchase in the first place. In other words, we're going to have to seek out people who want to buy the Tab and then dissuade them. Personally, I think I won't.
psshh, who is gonna buy that over sized phone anyway, too big for been a phone, too small for been a tablet
Is their a good site to follow Opus One updates on?
Do we know if the Opus One will support T-Mobile too or just ATT?
Has a new release date been set? Last I heard was May and we are now past that.
Thanks for your time and for looking!
Now it looks like Q1 - 2012:
http://tablet-news.com/2011/02/18/d...opus-one-silver-oak-sterling-models-included/
ameiurus said:
Now it looks like Q1 - 2012:
http://tablet-news.com/2011/02/18/d...opus-one-silver-oak-sterling-models-included/
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That is not anything new to report. That was posted months ago.
looking forward to this release.
Interesting is, that it have Honeycomb. So Honeycomb should be ok for 5 inch tablets. When I saw pictures DJ_Steve posted everything was looking so small...
Dell Opus One
It would have Android ICECREAM SANDWITCH 4 i guess !
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It would have Android ICECREAM SANDWITCH 4 i guess !
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Sooo, I guess Opus is officially deceased, expired, passed away, went to be with the cyberlord, crossed over, was "called home"?
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Should make ports to the gen. 1 Streka 5 easier, no?
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Should make ports to the gen. 1 Streka 5 easier, no?
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Does the current Streak Status in the United States mean we are officially cut off from any further upgrades or hopes of additional upgrades/new streaks while other countries will continue receiving such new updates, etc? GEE,THANKS DELL, for slapping us in the face right here on your own home turf
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Does the current Streak Status in the United States mean we are officially cut off from any further upgrades or hopes of additional upgrades/new streaks while other countries will continue receiving such new updates, etc? GEE,THANKS DELL, for slapping us in the face right here on your own home turf
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Do other countries receive such updates? I tend to doubt that. If a company won't do it for the US, they don't usually give a crap about anyone else in other countries either, sadly.
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Do other countries receive such updates? I tend to doubt that. If a company won't do it for the US, they don't usually give a crap about anyone else in other countries either, sadly.
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I guess that's why the Streak 10 has only been released in the US?
That is certainly a UScentric view. I'll think about while I watch the sun orbit the earth.
Perhaps the earth orbits him too
Thinking that the streak 5 will stop recieving support simply because it's discontinued in the US is plain up stupid.
It's still supported in the european markets and it was launched there BEFORE it launched in the US. If anything the US is was always the minor market and it was with the way dell launched it here and with At&t. Rogers up north wasnt that much better and was basically mirroring at&t with support.
Retail/unbranded streaks have ALWAYS recieved updates the fastest and most frequently and as retail it doesnt matter where it was purchased it will continue being able to run retail roms.
Excluding the retail streaks, the asian markets (japan and korea) recieve the greatest number of updates anyway, and that's where GB is most likely to land first if it doesnt land on retail first.
Hey Guys.....
I just read on Forbes' website that HP has officially discontinued ALL WebOS programs / devices..... according to the article, this specifically includes ALL tablets and smartphones.....
IMHO, Dell would be short-sighted now to discontinue future tablet & smartphone development...... But unfortunately I'm never invited to their shareholder meetings LOL
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All Dell phones in US are I believe EOL. I believe the current offering was just to test the waters. My best guess is give it a year or so and they will be back.. Companies are beginning to get it now...with the fall of webos, it is no big trick to come out with just another phone or tablet... it is now time for innovation and probably enterprise security to android.
Now I'm really pissed.... Just last night, I read on 3 "credible" websites that HP would begin offering their 16GB Touchpad at BestBuy & WalMart for $99 (32GB for $149).... I've been to 3 BestBuy stores today and they all told me their remaining TouchPad inventory was shipped back to HP..... I dare not go to a Walmart store and hear the same story for fear of having a meltdown right there at the service counter.... You know what, with these kind of shenanigans, HP deserves to fail!! .... .. There, I feel much better now
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I guess that's why the Streak 10 has only been released in the US?
That is certainly a UScentric view. I'll think about while I watch the sun orbit the earth.
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I don't live in the US, but I did for 37 years. I have noticed that mobile hardware makers do tend to be UScentric to an extent. I'm not saying it's categorically true in every instance.
Nokia's latest releases are the antithesis to this, for example.
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I guess that's why the Streak 10 has only been released in the US?
That is certainly a UScentric view. I'll think about while I watch the sun orbit the earth.
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Marvin, what was Dell's recent release that was only overseas and not U.S.? I am confused in thinking it was the streak 10. But I was totally mistaken..wow.
He's being sarcastic,
the s10 currently has no release schedule in the US or anywhere but china right now (which has been out in china for a couple weeks now)
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Perhaps the earth orbits him too
Thinking that the streak 5 will stop recieving support simply because it's discontinued in the US is plain up stupid.
It's still supported in the european markets and it was launched there BEFORE it launched in the US. If anything the US is was always the minor market and it was with the way dell launched it here and with At&t. Rogers up north wasnt that much better and was basically mirroring at&t with support.
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The US launch and lack of advertisment is a very sore spot. Maybe that is why they gave up on the US. Since Dell chose to make the US second fiddle our press paned the device. It was not released on time and was released with what the US press considered outdated software.
In a country that likes to be first in everything of course that will generate some poor feelings. Plus, Apple is strongest here. If you can do it to Apple's level (advertisement, product delivery, innovation) then you might as well pack up and go home, unless it's cheap and the Streak 5 was not cheep.
I think the US just was to hard for them to support.
My hope is that the next Gen Streak will be released here first with full disclosure and advertisement. I think the Streak 5 would have done very well if it had been fully supported here in the states. People are still asking me what it is and where they can get one. Now I have to sadly tell them they can't.
I've cut ties with Dell until they can show drastic signs of taking their devices seriously. I picked up an Atrix the other day when they were free at best buy (I told my wife-to-be to use her upgrade on it, she said she was fine with her current phone but I could have it...what a catch!), and it's amazing how much more refined of a device it is (excluding motoblur, but I never booted into the stock rom so I didn't have to deal with that). I will always miss the 5" screen though. Luckily Samsung is starting to make bigger and bigger screens on their phones.
The only thing that saved the Streak was the great communities on xda, modaco, and pocketables...Dell, sadly, shot themselves in the foot with how they handled the streak and I am done with them.
Samsung sells 1 million Galaxy Note units in two months
http://androidos.in/2011/12/samsung-sells-1-million-galaxy-note-units-in-two-months/
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Mobile phones are getting a bit ridiculous in size now. Wonder how long before we all start looking like Dom Jolly from Trigger happy TV.
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Q:What is the difference between Dell steak and samsung galaxy notes?
A: DELL
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You would be considered weired for using Dell Streak 5 for making phone call when Dell Streak 5 was launched back in 2010. What now? Everyone use Galaxy Note for making phone call and it's a trend.
Why? If Streak 5 was designed and made by Samsung in 2010, would there be any difference on Streak 5?
When I chose a Dell Streak 5 as a phone with mini tablet functionality, I did so because that was exactly what I wanted.
Whether the rest of the planet thought I looked ridiculous or fashionable talking into it was irrelevant.
What do they know anyway.
After we all adopted the Streak 5 as our communications weapon of choice, Samsung finally jumps on the bandwagon and gets a piece of the action.
Good for them.
Dell had the balls to do it first.
And we were all intelligent enough to recognise the virtues of the Dell Streak 5.
It may no longer be perfect in a now rapidly advancing technological world, but it remains an original fully functional classic in its own right.
Eventually, expect Apple to come out with an iPhone 5 in a similar form factor - because that's pretty much where the market is going soon.
I also have an iPhone 3GS - now I barely touch it.
It's just too small to work with - particularly since I got my Dell Streak .
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I use my streak every day,never get any negative comments regarding the phone,will be getting the note when my contract expires with o2 next week,its a bit of a shame dell stopped making this phone.If you see the new mission impossible film you will notice ethan hunt uses the streak as a tracking device in the dubai sandstorm scene.
I never post here much but have been a member for alot of years and visit the site on a daily basis,i am just not clever enough to add anything constructive as developement is not my strong suit,thanks to all the devs on here and have a good new year.
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You would be considered weired for using Dell Streak 5 for making phone call when Dell Streak 5 was launched back in 2010. What now? Everyone use Galaxy Note for making phone call and it's a trend.
Why? If Streak 5 was designed and made by Samsung in 2010, would there be any difference on Streak 5?
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Marketing and support make things different.
Lets examine Dells fantastic marketing strategy, in the U.S. at least…
Great idea: Lets create a new device that has all the newest features and blurs the line between a cell phone and a tablet and will take the world by storm!
Great idea: Let’s Package it with a really old operating system that will make everyone pull their hair out while waiting for us to update it to a slightly less-old operating system!
Great idea: Let’s not advertise it, except on our website where everybody goes to buy our crappy computers and no one would ever think to look for a cell phone!
Great idea: Let’s only sell it at ONE store in the United States of America, Best Buy! The place where EVERYONE goes to buy large screen T.V.s and refrigerators! Hopefully it will be displayed with the tablets so it just looks like the smallest, lamest one…
Great idea: Let’s offer it to the masses at a nicely discounted price through At&t-- only, to keep consistent with our marketing strategy, let’s not tell anyone! Let’s make sure that when one of the few people who does buy this wonderful device goes into an actual At&t store that the salesmen will look at the Streak and say, “Whoa, sweet phone! Where can I get that?” Then the Streak user can inform the At&t rep that it is available through At&t… Let’s make sure that this phone does not show up on At&t’s actual website where people may actually go when looking for a cell phone…
Lastly, when we are looking to hand out the blame for its failure, we’ll say that the Android operating system is just not ready for prime-time yet, even though it is already the #1 cell phone operating system in the world. Makes perfect sense!!!
I guess the world was just not ready for a 5 inch cell phone
I liked my Dell Streak...it was the only device at the time that had the options
that I wanted. Now 14 months later, I moved on last week with the Note.
The streak, for what it had, for my use was pretty stable. I stuck with 2.2.2, and
didn't "abuse" mine. Kept it in a pouch when not in use, out of extreme weather conditions. Towards the end, it was starting to appear a little sluggish.
It was Dell & AT&T who dropped the ball on the Streak. They either designed it
to fail, or just didn't know what they had.
I had a looked at the Galaxy note and I would still refer to stay with my dell streak 5 because it's still useful and can do all that I needed.
Galaxy note got a better camera both front and rear but not for me.
Dual core CPU, not really benefit for me and all current apps I used are running fine on Dell streak.
Galaxy Note is a bit bigger (thinner! Not the same, still bigger in my pocket) and it's very noticeable with device at this size and the 0.3" bigger screen add no benefit to my browsing what so ever (for the one who said it's smaller is a liar).
So unless my Dell streak is dead. I will stay with it til the end. Don't give in to commercial propaganda, buy buy buy buy!
Well I have had streak 5 for 15 months and thanks to XDA it has and still is a great device. Have looked at the note which will be my next phone but not until I outgrow the streak which will probably not be anytime soon
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Just to say. My post was not meant to be negative towards streak owners. I own a Streak myself. I was surprised to see you can get something even bigger than the streak( Sam Note) and still use it as a mobile phone.
Everyone hates Dell because of their computers, so they think that their phones suck too WHICH THEY DO NOT.
Dell Streak kicks the sh*t out of anyone's phone in my school.
Now they didn't do a good marketing plot with the Dell Streak because they did not enable all the Dell Streak's features like working fm radio and stuff.
They also have ROM which most phones today don't have.
512mb ROM + 512mb RAM technically equals into 1GB of RAM.
The stupid thing they did was take if off-sale and not make any more updates for it.
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Galaxy Note = Tablet
Dell Streak = Phone
I'm sorry but do you see the difference? Yeah.
F*ck Galaxy Note. Came in to try and steal Dell Streaks fame.
Galaxy Note = Tablet
Dell Streak = Phone
I'm sorry but do you see the difference? Yeah.
F*ck Galaxy Note. Came in to try and steal Dell Streaks fame.
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Dell gave up on the streak about a week after releasing it, shame because it is so sweet.
I don't see how the Note is a tablet and the Streak is a phone, especially when Dell says that the Streak is a tablet and Samsung classifies the Note as a smartphone...
That's one of the reasons the Streak failed, I believe.
You should be thankful for anyone that is willing to try and replace the device that we are all so addicted to...
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slaydog said:
Dell gave up on the streak about a week after releasing it, shame because it is so sweet.
I don't see how the Note is a tablet and the Streak is a phone, especially when Dell says that the Streak is a tablet and Samsung classifies the Note as a smartphone...
That's one of the reasons the Streak failed, I believe.
You should be thankful for anyone that is willing to try and replace the device that we are all so addicted to...
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Actually. Dell Streak is a smartphone. Dell just tried to make people buy it. It is not a tablet. It is a smartphone. Heck. It's a GENIUSPhone
Thanks for clearing that up...
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Now they didn't do a good marketing plot with the Dell Streak because they did not enable all the Dell Streak's features like working fm radio and stuff.
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FYi, radio fully functional now. check my post.
I moved from a blackberry to a 5treak and by far with the development in this community n the open source of the android os everything is good thus far. This kind of reminds me of that one video on youtube I saw. Not sure if I'm pasting the link right but if not search youtube for "a day of glass by corning"
Www.youtube.com/ watch?v=6Cf7IL_eZ38
N to boot the streak implores the gorilla glass tech while Samsung prefers amoled which has a lesser life expectancy n higher battery consumption
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the dell streak5 is an excellent device and as long as the there are rom developers willing to work on the device i'm not letting mine go. dell definately dropped the ball on this.
part of the reason the streak 5 didn't sell so well is because dell didn't advertise it enough. So many people that I met did not know that Dell had cell phones.
No more ASUS for me
Never posted before, but what a silly post. Perhaps Microsoft should not develop any further versions of windows as it will 'harm' their past users? Perhaps no-one should develop any new technology as some will be left behind, perhaps we should have stuck to bows and arrows? It is well known that Android is a more fragmented eco system than Apple. Perhaps you should have thought about this more and researched your purchase a little better. You sound more suited to Apple quite honestly, fanboy in the making.
Meh. Whatever. Have fun with Apple. Don't let the door hit ya where the good Lord split ya.
It's tough to take anyone serious that turns goodbye into "good by".
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It's tough to take anyone serious that turns goodbye into "good by".
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Yes, i opened the thread believing it contained something positive regarding Asus and Google. Instead i was rewarded with petty drivel.
If you're looking for somebody to talk you out of it (which you must be, you wouldn't have made a post otherwise), don't bother looking. We don't need you to stay. Go ahead and jump.
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just lou said:
It's tough to take anyone serious that turns goodbye into "good by".
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Lol...funny i was thinking something similar. Funny thread.
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to me the TF was a "good buy"
baseballfanz said:
to me the TF was a "good buy"
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had to thank that 1 lol
i love my TF ICS or not
Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out.
I find it funny about his complaints of Asus/Android. It's not a flaw of Android by any means.
Should Android stop releasing operating systems? No! They have nothing to do with hardware. Their goal is to develop competent software with reasonable releases, and they do that.
This intermediate time of merging the software onto the hardware? Yes, it is annoying, but it's expected. Android releases their software at the same time to EVERYONE. It takes time to develop the OS for a product. This time exists in Apple products as well most likely, but Apple has the fortunate benefit of not releasing the software until AFTER it has been fitted for the limited number of devices they control, because they are both a hardware AND software company.
Give it time. ICS will be here eventually. I'm patient. In the meantime, I will keep running paulbrennan's build and enjoy what we already have.
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I, for one, have had enough with Android and Google. Android/Google are forever building new versions of code that manufacturing companies can not keep up with.
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And what do you think, other developers do what? Apple does the same (no wonder the old iPhones aren't supported by iOS4 and 5), just like Microsoft, Samsung, Nokia, etcetera.
New codebase is the key to the future - with new functions built in, it can be a more widespread generic base, where manufacturers have less to modify to make their own taste. And manufacturers aren't able to keep up? Seriously, if they only made a device tree, and sent it to Cyanogen Team with a few test devices, they'd have more profit than ever. They could keep up, and they are not willing to do so because then the newer devices wouldn't sell. Just like Apple, Microsoft, Samsung, etc.
Manufacturer's are not going to spend profits on older products, they already got your money! Why is Google forever coming up with new versions? Android is in developement and always trying to be like Apple. I am an android developer and thought I would be happy with developing for 50% of the market users. 50% of the market users but in the corporate world the ratio is much different.
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The Android Market has millions of devices connected (I recall someone saying over 300million). So to target only the 50%, you'd have to make an application what is useful for almost everyone. Then count with the other devs who thought about the same, and you'll drop below 20% in the most optimistic case. You can never reach 50% if you're not a name already (like EA Games, Gameloft, and other huge companies). Or if you can't afford heavy marketing, adverts, etc.
Companies that provide employees with phones and tablets is where Apple rules. Why is that? Apple products are just better. They are not cheap plastic, creaky things where every one if different and not hardly one is on the same version. I do not have an iPhone because I refuse to pay carrier's pricing but all I want from a phone is phone calls, gps, access to emails, and some web browsing.
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WRONG. Companies buy iPhones for their employees because they have contracts with a given carrier. They get them in huge numbers for cheap, because Apple is pushing them (the carriers). They get huge bonuses just because that, not to talk about a lot bigger user base.
Apple things don't rule. They are made of the same plastic, metal, and other parts (ICs, SoCs, etc), as 99% of these are manufactured in China, even assembled in China! There was a picture, where it showed that the same factory was producing iPhones on a line, and next to it were cheap tablets and phones and mp4 players, and they were using the same material, electronics, etc.
At Apple, Samsung, HTC, LG, Motorola, and so on, you're paying for the brand - actually, some of the Chinese stuff can be better for half the price. Justsayin'
Phones are not game systems or video players - I am not going to watch a full length movie on a 4" screen.
Tablets on the other hand might be video players and I might play a game and I certainly will surf the web and read emails.
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Phones aren't, you're right, but when you're on the bus for 30mins, sitting in a line for the dentist, and so on, you can't have your xbox, ps3, wii with you. But you have your phone. So it's a fine time to watch a short movie (an episode of some series, etc), or play something funny (Angry Birds for an example).
Tablets are the same, except bigger, and you can use them as a smaller form PC or laptop.
I do not have an iPAD because I thought android was better. It is not and is always trying to one up Apple but Google can not even catch up to Apple nevermind get ahead of them.
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Then you think wrong. Both sides have their own pros and cons, but Google is definitely ruling Apple with Android, for the first time. There were more Android phone activations just during the holidays, than iPhone sales during a YEAR.
I had high hopes for ICS but doubt it will ever come on h/w that I already own - thanks ASUS, but I understand. Why no ICS yet? Because ASUS is working on their next device as they try to make a better product than Apple.
Interesting, first you say Google shouldn't make updates, now you cry for not getting one?
If ASUS cant take google code and get it ported into a device and not have problems then why are they selling the product. The prime GPS stinks but they continue to sell them, ASUS fixed the problem by repacking the PRIME but not retrofitting the nonworking Primes. We pay for their development, they are not looking back - profits comes from new sales.
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Asus won't release ICS until they get enough sales of the Prime first. You DID NOT pay for their development, there was no word about providing further updates in the future (there was a part, where it said, that Asus MAY send updates) for sure in the contract, you simply purchased the device, with the actual software on it. About Prime problems, yes, it's a concern they won't retrofit the problematic ones, but I'm sure they will come around that sooner or later.
I am saving for an iPAD and will keep the Android toys around for the kids. ASUS finally made me see the light.
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Okay then Apple boy. All of your sentences were just words from someone's mouth who bought an Asus Transformer expecting iPad features. I can tell you for sure: YOU WON'T GET THEM. This is not frikken Apple, this is ANDROID. Learn the difference between an open source, community driven operation system, and a closed source licensed and overpriced product.
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It's obvious that Android wasn't made for you. You people have to understand just some people think they like something but really don't. Try out apple, see how restricting they are. Maybe you will see their "light"
just to say.........if Apple was the bomb then why do people feel the need to jailbreak.........i think the term says it all. Freedom over the system to change what they want to try make it better ( sounds familiar ).......and get free **** of course (coughfilesharecough get it right up you )
just outta curiosity.........whys the logo got a mouldy half eaten granny smith on it anyway rather than a fully glorious golden delicious?
hmmm
Go for Apple, sell your transformer and give it a shot.
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I'll take that tablet off Ur hands since u don't want it..........
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^^
I was about to post that. It might be nvflashable, which is more than you can say about mine
His ratio of posts is like 20-1 whining about ICS not being here to actual non-ICS posts..lol
I guess he bought the TF101 expecting it to be ICS any day, if you purchase an item with above reasonable expectations, when you get disappointed it is your own fault.
Lesson? Study the device you purchase better before you purchase next time.
LOL and after getting reamed for such a thoughtless post he edited it to remove all the thoughtlessness haha
Probably all talk. He will keep the tablet I'm sure.
2011CorvetteZR1 said:
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I remember reading your post saying you own that car. You don't need the money.
So is your tf nvflash capable and how high does it clock ?
Mine has bad light bleed etc and well a swap or upgrade would be nice
Then you can sell and buy a nice shiny new ipad 2s
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