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Is this a deal breaker for anyone?
http://androidcommunity.com/sprint-evo-4g-wont-do-simultaneous-voice-data-20100329/
I think it's only a big deal in Iphone commercials
Well I guess 4g data and 3g talk is a go not sure how to change the thread title. PM me if you know how.
if this holds up it is not cool. Ive been drooling over this phone for 2 weeks, but with this question in the back of my mind the whole time. ive been an AT&T customer for 5+ years and didnt even know this was an issue untill AT&T came out with the commercials a while back. I was like "what, not everyone can do this??"
I read online that this is not a hardware limitation and could be fixed with a future OTA update.
http://www.androidcentral.com/sprint-clarifies-voice-data-evo-4g
Voice + Wifi = Yes.
Voice + 3G = No.
Voice + 4G = TBD, testing.
I actually never realized I couldn't use data while talking until those commercials ... and I've been using Sprint pda-phones since 2001.
Sprint tweeted that it's still testing so it's possible by the time the phone is released we will be able to do both. But frankly 4g is in so few areas that I doubt it's going to make much of a diff to most ppl. It will be good for the hotspot feature.
can someone name a use for using data while on a call?
I've use Voice and Data at the same time all the time on my G1. I'm either talking to my wife and she needs directions or a phone number and I look it up using Google Maps. Really easy and fast.
Yea AT&T isn't the only one that can do it. I do it on T-Mobile all the time with my Nexus, used to do it with my G1. I'm on a phone call and I get a text. I'm on the phone and I can just launch my browser or Google Maps or Gmail right away and do whatever I want, pretty cool.
Actually Sprint and Verizon can do SMS and voice at the same time too. It's voice and data that they can't handle.
I guess it helps working in the tech industry, if I ever get a call I'm usually around a computer which is faster for looking stuff up anyways...
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can someone name a use for using data while on a call?
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REALLY? many uses but here is one: my phone is tethered to my laptop. a phone call comes in i am in the middle of sending out emails to clients i can talk and do that at the same time but on sprint you cant. basically tons of reason when im on the phone with someone and a topic comes up i may Google it while we are talking. What do you use your phone for?
You must be a very busy person. Emailing while talking to people at the same time, also that the email must go out immediately during the call instead of after. Must be like a CEO of some company or something =P
I guess I must be getting old, I use my phone for talking on the phone, and when I'm not talking I'm doing the other stuff on it... I'm sorry if that was surprising to hear I was questioning what others are doing while they're talking.
I somewhat laughed at the att&t commercial when a person popped out and downloaded monopoly while talking to someone... are people so uninteresting that you must entertain yourself while you talk to them? And why didn't he just download it before... I don't know, it just seems like a gimmick to me, I can honestly say I've never wished I had that functionality. I guess that's why I asked.
its not a deal breaker for me but honestly if I'm in the car I tend to turn gps on just because I'm a nerd and like looking at new places or not having to find a way looking at traffic and such. and when I'm going to new places I tend to GPS it and not being able to make or take a call when I'm on the road with a chance of losing my barrings is well, bad.
I just realized, idk if other phones use data and voice for video calling but with it being a front facing camera for video calling, I would think they will def offer the data+voice.
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You must be a very busy person. Emailing while talking to people at the same time, also that the email must go out immediately during the call instead of after. Must be like a CEO of some company or something =P
I guess I must be getting old, I use my phone for talking on the phone, and when I'm not talking I'm doing the other stuff on it... I'm sorry if that was surprising to hear I was questioning what others are doing while they're talking.
I somewhat laughed at the att&t commercial when a person popped out and downloaded monopoly while talking to someone... are people so uninteresting that you must entertain yourself while you talk to them? And why didn't he just download it before... I don't know, it just seems like a gimmick to me, I can honestly say I've never wished I had that functionality. I guess that's why I asked.
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yes i do run two companies and i am on the phone for an hour at a time during conference calls that can get boring.
Not even a bother for me and has never been in my 11 yrs on Sprint.
I have a Verizon Blackberry as my company phone and AT&T as a personal phone. The only time not being able to use data and voice at the same time is waiting for an email to send or recieve. It has never been a big issue for me. Annoying sometimes.
johnsongrantr said:
can someone name a use for using data while on a call?
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Anyone that likes to do 3 things at once, like myself, would really like this feature!!! I assume Sprint will realize that this is important to people and enable it on 4G only. Technically / theoretically no barrier exists and the hardware and software could be designed to support this feature going forward... I guess we need to wait to see what Sprint decides to do. Please don't be penny wise & pound foolish Sprint, yeah I know... wishful thinking!!!!
It's a big difference between GSM and CDMA, GSM can do voice + data, but CDMA can not
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its not a deal breaker for me but honestly if I'm in the car I tend to turn gps on just because I'm a nerd and like looking at new places or not having to find a way looking at traffic and such. and when I'm going to new places I tend to GPS it and not being able to make or take a call when I'm on the road with a chance of losing my barrings is well, bad.
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I thought I was the only geek doing this.
I don't need for my phone to be able to do both at the same time but, heck, I joined this forum to make my phone do things it wasn't originally supposed to be able to do.
Since it was mentioned that this is a software issue, it would only be a matter of time before someone could get it to work.
just got off the phone with Sprints Advance Tech support.
i was asking them how to uninstall the Amazon MP3 app.
the answer came back NO. even if they did a hard reboot its in the hardware and Sprint can not do nothing about it.
here's the set up. i don't listen to music and have only turned on the app MYSELF twice. once to see what its about and the other to see if i could uninstall it.
this program also turns itself on a lot AND I DON"T want it to do this.
NEXT
in the setting under the Applications i saw that it was collecting and keeping DATA. so i erased the info and to my surprise when i called Sprint and looked at the Data it had recorded 20Kbs of info. the only thing i did was use the phone. Does Any One know what kind of data it is collecting. my fear is it is keeping data on my phone calls?
Sprint could not answer that question and i waited inline for 15 min on the HTC tech line before i could not wait any longer.
i also found when the battery runs down the battery info will pop up. in there i looked through a few things and found some apps running even after i turned them off. i selected the Amazon link and i seen that i could uninstall from there. i selected uninstall and it said i could not uninstall the app.
my feeling is HTC gives me no choice in uninstalling a BUILT in APP that is collecting DATA on me is not in my best interest. i will be calling my lawyer monday - but i am seeking your help in understanding what kind of data is amazon collecting. TIA
hahahahahahhaha
they're probably recording all your phone calls...just my 2 cents
Sorry to hear about your idiocy. Hopefully it gets better soon.
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Paranoid much? If don't like it root it. If you don't want to root it, then buy something else. Calling a lawyer because of an app is ridiculous, all they are collecting is information whether you are logged into the Amazon store. Every smart phone on the market has some application you can't uninstall, you gonna go sue everyone? Seriously
Lil, ya'll are mean
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Please tell me this is a joke and I'm missing something? Seriously?
lol wow did you used to have an iphone?
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Paranoid much? If don't like it root it. If you don't want to root it, then buy something else. Calling a lawyer because of an app is ridiculous, all they are collecting is information whether you are logged into the Amazon store. Every smart phone on the market has some application you can't uninstall, you gonna go sue everyone? Seriously
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lets see - did you read the part that i wiped out the DATA and only made a phone call and then checked the DATA and it collected 20Kbs?
get the crap out of your ears I WAS NOT ON AMAZON AND DID NOT TURN ON THE APP.
you also did not add to anything here as to what amazon is collecting.
funny thing about rooting - that was what the Sprint Adv Tech manger said to do. but he also said it makes my phone void for repairs.
can you answer if your phone is rooted - does the app still collect data?
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Please tell me this is a joke and I'm missing something? Seriously?
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tell me what they are collecting and if they are receiving this info and i'll tell you if this is a joke.
Lmfao this some funny stuff......I'll like to see you try, you'll probably make the news. Hahaha
Maybe you probably need something call unlimited data plan...
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lol wow did you used to have an iphone?
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no - now can you answer what kind of data they are collecting? can you tell me if they are receiving this data?
what i'm looking for is info. not a bunch of stupid comments.
Personally I use Aluminium foil in the shape of a cone hat,,, That stops the app from collecting data. Also try reading "To kill a mockingbird" I have also heard that helps
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tell me what they are collecting and if they are receiving this info and i'll tell you if this is a joke.
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Do you download any application from the market, or is your phone running only pre-installed apps? That won't make a difference since almost every app warns you of collecting data. Rooting is not going to solve the problem.
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Lmfao this some funny stuff......I'll like to see you try, you'll probably make the news. Hahaha
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you really don't know what a class action lawsuit is - now that's funny!
popular nobody said:
Do you download any application from the market, or is your phone running only pre-installed apps? That won't make a difference since almost every app warns you of collecting data.
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the app is built INTO the HARDWARE from HTC. thus not giving the option to accept the agreement.
So what do you think happens when you sign in with your Google account? It specifically states that data collection will happen no matter what. Now I know your talking about Amazon, but seriously...the paranoia isn't going to help much.
Calling sprint's customer service line and demanding to know what data was being collected was your biggest mistake. Sad to say, but the people here know more then the CS reps do.
Why not contact Amazon or do a search online on what is collected with applications? Either way thanks for the laugh, hope your response isn't to brutal!
on a serious note, if you lived in the EU you might have a chance. They're against OEMs making you have to use stuff, look at MS and the IE choice thing.
but when you say the app is built into the hardware you obviously have no clue as to what you're talking about. Since a.) the app can be removed with SU permissions (rooted phone) and b.) that sentance is just incredibly LOLable.
Ok, I'll answer your question. You do not have a class action lawsuit. Although I recommend you call your lawyer just to let us know how hard he laughs at you.
Second if you cleared your data and then made a phone call, and the data jumped up to 20kb, do you really think it has collected any relevant data? A little common sense is in order here. Most likely the data it captured is:
SERVICE STARTED
SERVICE RUNNING
SERVICE RUNNING
SERVICE STILL RUNNING
SERVICE RUNNING
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Take off your tin foil hat. Nobody is trying to steal your thoughts. Bottom line, it sounds like this phone is not for you.
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I would recommend running your phone in airplane mode 100% of the time. I guarentee you can have a device where absolutely no data is sent or received and you can be happy.
Been using Google voice (not religiously due to family not the most tech savvy). This morning, I wake up, and I find a total of 8 messages from starting from 10:30 at night, to 07:59 this AM. There are a total of 3 reply backs, all having personal information attached to them).
Researching the number back shows an area code of 734 (Ann Arbor), which is ironically the prefix I chose since I previously worked there at U of M.
The really interesting part is that I have a bit of a "stalker" at work, whose number I've blacklisted courtesy of Verizon wireless, and have not had any issues in say 1.5 months. 2 nights ago while at work she asked about setting up a google voice account after just purchasing a Samsung S, stating "I don't have any clue how to set this up". Was a bit busy at the time (patient going bad, honestly didn't really care", and opened up the app and told her to browse through it to get an idea.
How can I track this number (really think it's her) and verify it. I have a harassment case pending in HR regarding her, and would like to have it as material to provide it it really is her. Second, how the hell can my phone respond back? I have "Unknown sources" checked as I use Ti backup.
Any help more than appreciated. Thanks in advance!
LOL Holy christ no. One of the "you can take the girl from the trailer...." She's done this before to others at work, with the last moving to Canada (I **** you not) with his wife and 2 daughters. Been getting worse, hence my interaction with my manager and HR.
google voice also can use your email to reply back to texts..is your email compromised? Change your passwords..and do a hard reset..if you are using TI..just wipe and reinstall ROM...
It's hard to say what/if she did something...but yeah, thats weird.
edit: I live in Ann Arbor, but I wasn't the one...haha.
pretend how u have this treasure in nigeria, and ask her to "help" you bring it here.
Christ, I never thought of that, and I do have that option checked.
Sigh... I just did a complete backup 8 days ago, only difference is 2 games, and I can re-download those.
Google voice already uninstalled. After that I'm going to get number changed, and see if I can get it "unlisted" by Verizon.
What else, any other suggestions are more than welcome and appreciated!
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pretend how u have this treasure in nigeria, and ask her to "help" you bring it here.
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Somali pirates would probably ship her back, and the waters over there are dirty enough. No need to have Green Peace involved.... or maybe so... thoughts to ponder
Any way I can trace that number back to her original phone number?
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Somali pirates would probably ship her back, and the waters over there are dirty enough. No need to have Green Peace involved.... or maybe so... thoughts to ponder
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actually what i was getting at was scamming her so that she would get the message.
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Any way I can trace that number back to her original phone number?
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do a reverse number lookup and google voice numbers are listed as grandcentral in their service provider. that will tell u at the very least that its a GV number.
Well, after logging into Google voice, somehow her number (which is and has been blocked by Verizon) is listed as a secondary phone, receive text messages on this phone has been checked, PIN not required checked, and never ring. Multiple sign-in is enabled as well.
Just outstanding. Changed email to some bs address. Will verify and forget, as has password to something ridiculous. Any other suggestions?
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Any other suggestions?
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Document everything that has happened, as thoroughly as possible. Get whatever confirmation you can from Google that shows that your account was somehow compromised.
This chica sounds like she is serious business and doesn't mind playing these games long term. If she compromised your communications you can be sure that it was not just some isolated fun. She most likely mined your account for whatever info she could, and it's possible that she sent things 'on your behalf' that she can later use to accuse you of something.
Change all of your passwords immediately: banking, paypal, email, etc. If she was able to compromise one, it's likely she got into another.
It sounds like worrying about Google Voice or your phone is the least of your concerns: the symptom rather than the disease.
Seriously consider retaining a lawyer for whatever may come of all this insanity.
Maybe it sounds like I'm overreacting but I've seen the havoc that can come from such a situation and from your description, this sounds like it could go all sorts of awful ways.
I dunno... I think you like her.
i think you should talk to the police about this... not XDA... or maybe springer... he always gets the truth out
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...and opened up the app and told her to browse through it to get an idea.
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Is it possible she changed your google voice setup when you handed her your phone?
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If she's that much of a nut case, why did you give her your phone? It doesn't sound like she's dumb at all, if she mined your phone that quick.
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Who gives their phone to a known stalker nutcase?
I suspect there is more to this story.
Was she any good?
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OK wait one second here... a woman is "stalking" you and you are having issues with this?? Are you another woman? You can't be a guy because it is impossible to 1. rape a guy and 2. stalk a guy.
This is so much BS. if you were really bothered by this person why do you talk to her? why do you bother with her? I think you are her stalker, thats more believable.
I have been stalked by a chick. Its creepy. You get stalked when they're fat and scary looking. So it is possible.
Didn't know that they controlled how fast you post on here if your a new user. That is insane. But understandable.
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OK wait one second here... a woman is "stalking" you and you are having issues with this?? Are you another woman? You can't be a guy because it is impossible to 1. rape a guy and 2. stalk a guy.
This is so much BS. if you were really bothered by this person why do you talk to her? why do you bother with her? I think you are her stalker, thats more believable.
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Aside from just simply changing your passwords, change your security questions to the accounts as well.
Document everything and hand it over to HR
There's also an option to change your google voice number, if you dont mind choosing a new one.
Somewhere in the settings on the desktop site.
Well at my high school we got a new principal, and frankly he hates the texting, and the web browsing, and the in-class calls to home, so he set up cellphone signal blockers, and internet blockers, which is very annoying! Does anyone know anyways to get around these, or cancel them out? If not i will just take it upon myself to destroy them!
Maybe you should utilize your time in school learning...
I thought that phone jamming was illegal in the US. Something about property theft.... Maybe you could get him arrested!
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in the US you could just call the cops
No getting around it. High schools where I live are blocked inside and outside to a certain spot. The court house blocks internet in court room area you can only make phone calls but the rest of building is edge network. Walk out building 5 feet full 3g service. Something with homeland security.
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That would be too much stress, playing games and surfing the internet is much more fun! plus we hardly do anything anyway!
OP..
I don't know where you're from. But, if you're in the US, signal blocking is highly illeagal. However, you should not waste the teacher's time playing with your phone...
thats disappointing to hear...
You get around it by calling the FCC. Unless he has a license to broadcast on those frequencies, he'll be in for a nasty surprise. If you have evidence that he's using them, contact your local FCC office and tell them what he's up to.
Alternatively, fake a heart attack and wait for someone to try and call 911. When the school hears how you died because someone couldn't call 911, the principle better be prepared for jail time.
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You get around it by calling the FCC. Unless he has a license to broadcast on those frequencies, he'll be in for a nasty surprise. If you have evidence that he's using them, contact your local FCC office and tell them what he's up to.
Alternatively, fake a heart attack and wait for someone to try and call 911. When the school hears how you died because someone couldn't call 911, the principle better be prepared for jail time.
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hahaha nice alternative man
But seriously, in USA and Canada, signal blocking is completely illegal, whatever the use is. Complain to the local authorities and get it taken off.
School is important though, listen to the important classes and stuff...I do text in random French and programming classes though
it wont be hard to get evidence, because of the fact that he had an assembly and was bragging about it to the whole school... ugh, ignorant people...
I dont know how big/small your school is, but to cover an average size school you would need one powerful jammer or multiple jammers to canvas the school in that evil death signal.
Look for an antenna/s and snap a picture of the device if you can.
But it is 100% illegal, I remember for a time movie theaters wanted to install these but of course that never happened. if you are 100% sure you can call the FCC
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it wont be hard to get evidence, because of the fact that he had an assembly and was bragging about it to the whole school... ugh, ignorant people...
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Does your mommy know you're using the internets?
Drew11 said:
Well at my high school we got a new principal, and frankly he hates the texting, and the web browsing, and the in-class calls to home, so he set up cellphone signal blockers, and internet blockers, which is very annoying! Does anyone know anyways to get around these, or cancel them out? If not i will just take it upon myself to destroy them!
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http://www.fcc.gov/eb/Public_Notices/DA-05-1776A1.html
Listen to all these do gooders lol... Im sure they were all honor roll students lol
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Drew11 said:
it wont be hard to get evidence, because of the fact that he had an assembly and was bragging about it to the whole school... ugh, ignorant people...
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Are you certain that he is using an active signal jammer, and not that he had the classrooms painted and installed EM blocking screening material in the windows?
Active is illegal. I provided the link above.
Passive blocking through materials that naturally attenuate signal is not.
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Does your mommy know you're using the internets?
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Really ? Seriously ?
My kids all had cell phones in high school, and even jr high.
It is what it is, get used to it.
I have no idea if my school is jamming. I get 3G in certain small areas. If I move my phone 4"+ away, I lose signal. Maybe it's just thick walls.
Forget the interwebs... you should be snapping photos of all the hunnies
Cream of the crop of XDA in this tread...
Hello,
I got my Samsung Galaxy Note 3 Stolen cant track it as i did not have tracking on it and battery was empty (gps is off)
I am getting tomorrow ne phone (same)
What options are out there.
I often forget phone to desk or to mall or to car etc.
how to prevent that happening again?
I have heard that Samsung Gear watch will vibrate when it will loose connection with my Galaxy Note 3
Can i set it up this way that my watch will also vibrate and make noise (also phone?) when i am too far with my wach from phone.
Can i change the distance?
This prevents me forgetting phone somewhere when i move elsewhere?
I did also find this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpQIhIky9o8
Or is there more options with similar devices?
As this proximo should exist also for android devices and not only for iphone
You could simply learn to be more responsible.
Forgetting your phone is your own fault. You're just going to have to condition yourself to not let the phone out of your hands. Done with it? Put it in your pocket.
Set up a Samsung account, you can use it to track your phone. As for gear options, no idea.
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Android Device Manager can track a phone, lock, and wipe it. It can also ring it if misplaced. It's best not to lose it, of course. You can enable it from Google Settings.
First of all ShadowLea i have not blamed anyone else that my phone got stolen. And phone WAS in my pocket.
If you have no knowledge is there any other similar devise that i mentioned above why to comment?
You think that i don't feel bad already that having my phone stolen and now you come here to point to me with ur finger and ***** that it is my fault?
Thank you for your "friendly" attitude.
If you have no idea is there any similar device then why to comment?
I have no use of this samsung tracking as when phone is stolen they will turn off phone and replace sim card so tracking device is not an option or...?
Question was will the Samsung Gear wach alarm me when i am let say 1 meeter away from phone (alarm on phone via voice and same with wach)I have heard that watch will actually vibrate?
or is there any other device Similar to devices i mentioned above.
Maby some small sticker type alarm so when phone (that has sticker or... attached) and will be too far from me it will raise an alarm.
Bit too harsh dude. He was merely giving you advise.
Cocliosttro said:
Hello,
I got my Samsung Galaxy Note 3 Stolen cant track it as i did not have tracking on it and battery was empty (gps is off)
I am getting tomorrow ne phone (same)
What options are out there.
I often forget phone to desk or to mall or to car etc.
how to prevent that happening again?
I have heard that Samsung Gear watch will vibrate when it will loose connection with my Galaxy Note 3
Can i set it up this way that my watch will also vibrate and make noise (also phone?) when i am too far with my wach from phone.
Can i change the distance?
This prevents me forgetting phone somewhere when i move elsewhere?
I did also find this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpQIhIky9o8
Or is there more options with similar devices?
As this proximo should exist also for android devices and not only for iphone
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next time just set up android manager and set up a samsung account and use the device tracking
or if you are rooted you can use cerberus app and put it in the system app with this
the only way to remove the app its by doing a full factory recovery
if they reset the phone the app will still be install https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.lsdroid.cerberus
So if user puts in his own sim card i will still have full control over that phone?
Usually phones (those new ones) have this factory reset button inside. If they press that one it will not help? As thieve can`t remove that app?
I wanted myself to push that security even further. As idea is same as that kensington has.
So for example i am in a pub. Phone is in my pocket and i am on dance floor or waiting on bar line to buy my drink or i go to toilet and i place phone for second to sink or toilet paper holder i do my things and when i start to move away from the phone or someone is stealing phone while i do not notice (those thieves are skilled and can pump in to you and say oh sorry or what ever and next thing you notice is that phone is gone.) and it will raise an alarm on my phone and on that secondary device (key holder on my pocket etc) and both devises start to make loud noise so i will notice when something like this happens.
I start to leave toilet while phone is still on the sink system will alarm as i am away from phone for example 1 meeter or thive is walking away with my phone and it will raise an alarm.
That was the point.
I have searched for many devices that can actually be useful.
But thank you for your effort to help me.
Cocliosttro said:
So if user puts in his own sim card i will still have full control over that phone?
Usually phones (those new ones) have this factory reset button inside. If they press that one it will not help? As thieve can`t remove that app?
I wanted myself to push that security even further. As idea is same as that kensington has.
So for example i am in a pub. Phone is in my pocket and i am on dance floor or waiting on bar line to buy my drink or i go to toilet and i place phone for second to sink or toilet paper holder i do my things and when i start to move away from the phone or someone is stealing phone while i do not notice (those thieves are skilled and can pump in to you and say oh sorry or what ever and next thing you notice is that phone is gone.) and it will raise an alarm on my phone and on that secondary device (key holder on my pocket etc) and both devises start to make loud noise so i will notice when something like this happens.
I start to leave toilet while phone is still on the sink system will alarm as i am away from phone for example 1 meeter or thive is walking away with my phone and it will raise an alarm.
That was the point.
I have searched for many devices that can actually be useful.
But thank you for your effort to help me.
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A few Smart watches have these features, Galaxy Gear was mentioned earlier, apparently so does the HOT watch.... One of it's features is if you leave your phone behind when it gets a certain distance away(probably 10 meters as it's bluetooth) it will vibrate and let you know about it.
As was also stated google have Android device manager. You can locate, ring or wipe and lock your phone. As long as it can be contacted through mobile internet or wifi this will work... Read how here - http://howto.cnet.com/8301-11310_39...t-android-device-with-android-device-manager/
Avast anti theft has geo-fencing feature and a whole load of other goodies too.
I did find this topic:
http://www.inc.com/john-brandon/5-start-ups-the-samsung-galaxy-gear-might-kill.html
they write there at point 4:
4. StickNFind
This phone finder system is pretty cool. There's a leash mode that sounds an alarm if you leave your stuff behind. The thing is, if the Galaxy Gear is a big seller, there's no reason to use the stickers if your main concern is losing a phone. The Gear watch will alert you when you leave your phone behind. It even locks the screen of your phone when you walk away and unlocks when you appear again. There are a bunch of other companies who make similar finders, including the Tile app. If they're not paying attention to the Gear now, they should.
As i understand i need to get sticker for my wach and it will raise an alarm when i am too far from my phone.
ShadowLea said:
You could simply learn to be more responsible.
Forgetting your phone is your own fault. You're just going to have to condition yourself to not let the phone out of your hands. Done with it? Put it in your pocket.
Set up a Samsung account, you can use it to track your phone. As for gear options, no idea.
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illusion786 said:
Bit too harsh dude. He was merely giving you advise.
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Let's be fair, the RESPONSE was Harsh, patronizing and judgmental.
Of course it's partly fault of the user. But when someone feels the needs to state the obvious, it's usually not to be informative, but rather to glout.
The BOLDED quote is not advice, but judgmental opinion at best, and a emotional jab at worse. Now granted, while certain things deserve judgment, call it what is is, instead of cowering away and calling it "advice".
At least, hopefully, you (OP) turned on Reactivation Lock, so they can't bypass your screen lock (surely you had one) by flashing your ROM.
Don't forget to call the service provider to blacklist the IMEI so it can't be sold on the black market. This will prevent future thefts.
Yes, StickNGo is a good alternative. But it doesn't look like they have a use case required for your reversed direction location. Worth noting is that Android 4.3's Bluetooth LE stack is still buggy enough to cause usability issues and also if you notice StickNGo's indiegogo, lots of people are getting replacement tags due to some problems.
The other recommendations here are great so far. :good:
Check out cerbus. It's cheap and nice
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klau1 said:
Let's be fair, the RESPONSE was Harsh, patronizing and judgmental.
Of course it's partly fault of the user. But when someone feels the needs to state the obvious, it's usually not to be informative, but rather to glout.
The BOLDED quote is not advice, but judgmental opinion at best, and a emotional jab at worse. Now granted, while certain things deserve judgment, call it what is is, instead of cowering away and calling it "advice".
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I'm a sociopath, I don't do 'emotional'.
Yes, it was harsh. Yes, it was patronizing. Yes, it was judgemental. It was meant to be exactly that. The only way to get the point across to these kinds of people is to stop. being. polite.
You teach children at age 4 to be mindful of their possessions and to not loose their valuables. If you still don't know how to do it when you're over 12, you deserve every bit of judgement.
This is a 1000 dollar phone, not a 5 cent pen.
Start treating it for the value it has, as opposed to a cheap bit of plastic.
Cocliosttro said:
Hello,
I got my Samsung Galaxy Note 3 Stolen cant track it as i did not have tracking on it and battery was empty (gps is off)
I am getting tomorrow ne phone (same)
What options are out there.
I often forget phone to desk or to mall or to car etc.
how to prevent that happening again?
I have heard that Samsung Gear watch will vibrate when it will loose connection with my Galaxy Note 3
Can i set it up this way that my watch will also vibrate and make noise (also phone?) when i am too far with my wach from phone.
Can i change the distance?
This prevents me forgetting phone somewhere when i move elsewhere?
I did also find this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpQIhIky9o8
Or is there more options with similar devices?
As this proximo should exist also for android devices and not only for iphone
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Future proof yourself. But there's a nice niche you can do to the old stolen phone... the imei on the phone... can be blacklisted... the serial on it... can be blacklisted... bam... whomever uses it is stuck with a tablet, nothing more.
Had a friend buy what was thought to be a good phone, seemed to have been blacklisted in another province in canada, and well he was sol. He blacklisted his proof of purchase s4 he traded for the other phone, but both him/them have equally good tablets now...
Blacklist it via your cell provider. See what they can do, as they still have the old information for your account.
- rmleloup
Good, I have little problem with people who have the decency of calling something what it is, instead of wasting time being disingenuous.
Here's the thing, few lessons are as memorable as those resulting from experience. If your goal was for him to learn his lesson, then I think our OP will have no problem remembering after paying $$$ for this lesson, even without the extraneous comments.
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rmleloup said:
Future proof yourself. But there's a nice niche you can do to the old stolen phone... the imei on the phone... can be blacklisted... the serial on it... can be blacklisted... bam... whomever uses it is stuck with a tablet, nothing more.
Had a friend buy what was thought to be a good phone, seemed to have been blacklisted in another province in canada, and well he was sol. He blacklisted his proof of purchase s4 he traded for the other phone, but both him/them have equally good tablets now...
Blacklist it via your cell provider. See what they can do, as they still have the old information for your account.
- rmleloup
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This is news to me, but it looks like you're right about the existence of a national blacklist. Until now, my understanding was that the Europian Union, was the only place with a national/international blacklist.
When did your "friend" lose his/her phone? Because it looks like the national blacklist was only VERY Recently implemented
READ: http://mobilesyrup.com/2013/09/30/cwta-and-its-partners-launch-gsm-blacklist-for-stolen-cellphones/
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Looks like Bluetooth LE is just not properly implemented in Android. Bluetooth LE reliant products across the board are either having serious technical issues with Android based systems or have out right declined to support the operating system.
Found at Tilesapp FAQ:
No Android support?
At this time Android does not support Bluetooth 4.0. A few Android phone manufacturers have released BLE SDKs, however they are lacking in quality and stability. At Tile, the quality of our products is of utmost importance, and until there exists an Android platform that meets our quality standards, we will not be releasing a Tile app for Android.
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ShadowLea said:
I'm a sociopath, I don't do 'emotional'.
Yes, it was harsh. Yes, it was patronizing. Yes, it was judgemental. It was meant to be exactly that. The only way to get the point across to these kinds of people is to stop. being. polite.
You teach children at age 4 to be mindful of their possessions and to not loose their valuables. If you still don't know how to do it when you're over 12, you deserve every bit of judgement.
This is a 1000 dollar phone, not a 5 cent pen.
Start treating it for the value it has, as opposed to a cheap bit of plastic.
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I have hoby named bodybuilding.
When i go to competition i have to lower my body carbon hydrate level to 6% less that level is MORE you will forget.
As it is food to brain.
I wont quit my hoby because i may loose my phone.
I will try to find solution and your comment did not help.
if somone is unfriendly to me i will reply same. How i will act will be reflected as how did you act.
With me it was always like this and it will be like this.
Other people who did comment here Thank you.
I will deffenetly look in to this Cerberus app.
I wonder will factory reset remove that.
klau1 said:
Let's be fair, the RESPONSE was Harsh, patronizing and judgmental.
Of course it's partly fault of the user. But when someone feels the needs to state the obvious, it's usually not to be informative, but rather to glout.
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The other recommendations here are great so far. :good:
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To be fair you have to admit it's entirely the fault of the user. Neither the phone nor the sink did anything wrong and I'm pretty sure the pocket didn't play a part in it either.
I agree with Lea that he needs to condition himself NOT TO FORGET THINGS. I he forgot the $1000 phone he can just as easily forget his wallet or his keys, and they can't be traced or wiped.
And dude the hobby thing plays little part in it. I'm on a 1.500 cal lc paleo diet and never forget anything. As you taught your body to burn fat and gain muscle, teach your brain to remember the important things.
Buy Cerberus app from play store. It's probably the best in the category. Factory reset and changing sim cards won't remove it if you implant it as a system app. Tracking works from a PC or via sms. It has a lot of features like sounding alarm, taking picture, locking phone, wiping phone, tracking, recording sound, recording video etc. ..
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