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Sense-Froyo Rom for Nexus One

Hi,
Does any one know if there is a Sense-Froyo Rom for Nexus One?
If so is it any good / stable, if not any ideas when?
Cool thanks guys.

Yea there is one but stable not really to confident on that but modaco.com you should be able to find a sense ui rom on there

nexus9988 said:
Yea there is one but stable not really to confident on that but modaco.com you should be able to find a sense ui rom on there
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Going for the grammar award?
OP: Did you try searching? It took me roughly 7 seconds to find this --> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=730290
Try working things out for yourself or taking an I.T class in future

cymru said:
Going for the grammar award?
OP: Did you try searching? It took me roughly 7 seconds to find this --> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=730290
Try working things out for yourself or taking an I.T class in future
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I'd rather post a quick question to people who are dealing with this frequently, than trawl the web, sift through junk and install something which has lots of bugs.
Cheer up, its not all bad.
Thanks for the link.

you'll have to forgive XDA, recently it has attracted many young people that get bullied at home and school, this is a place they can come and anonymously display their e-toughness. Just ignore them.
btw, i dont think there is a sense rom that has everything working like your stock version. i hope im wrong but i was interested in rooting to use sense, in the development section i couldnt find any that didnt have disclaimers about things that arent working, so i havent gotten to try it out yet. But again, maybe im wrong, and i hope i am.

Without a criteria of what he is looking for other than good and stable it's hard to give a good answer. It's not about e-toughness, it's about searching, putting together an informative post, and reading the forum rules.
'cymru' is 100% correct. All it took was a search and reading comments about what does and does not work, then nandroid backup and try the rom and see if it passes the "good and stable" test.

DMaverick50 said:
you'll have to forgive XDA, recently it has attracted many young people that get bullied at home and school, this is a place they can come and anonymously display their e-toughness. Just ignore them.
btw, i dont think there is a sense rom that has everything working like your stock version. i hope im wrong but i was interested in rooting to use sense, in the development section i couldnt find any that didnt have disclaimers about things that arent working, so i havent gotten to try it out yet. But again, maybe im wrong, and i hope i am.
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WHat he said.
Sense UI has its bugs on the N1. I think LauncherPro is 100x better than Sense UI. It's just not as smooth (this is coming from experience using it on an Evo 4g)

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WHat he said.
Sense UI has its bugs on the N1. I think LauncherPro is 100x better than Sense UI. It's just not as smooth (this is coming from experience using it on an Evo 4g)
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I'd run a stable sense rom if there was one with Launcher Pro as my launcher... I want sense for the camera, calc, dialer, calander, emails etc. not the launcher. The applications on it are just way better quality!

LevitateJay said:
I'd run a stable sense rom if there was one with Launcher Pro as my launcher... I want sense for the camera, calc, dialer, calander, emails etc. not the launcher. The applications on it are just way better quality!
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Well there are some roms that have ported sense camera, and apps.
I do believe my "The Official" rom has them. It didn't come stock with the sense camera, but I had it installed (easy to do from spare parts, plus I have 720p recording).
The best you can do is look for a rom with those things ported over.

Evils q&d sensefroyo is killer he had updates frequently and his newest v1.1 is amazing

crx4xharder said:
Evils q&d sensefroyo is killer he had updates frequently and his newest v1.1 is amazing
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I might check that out...I tried KingKlick's latest rom and my phone rebooted all night long with it. Lamesauce.

I agree with cymru, its not that hard to click one section over to development and see what's there instead of someone making a new thread everytime, and xda agrees. Not a big a deal yes, just saying I agree
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DMaverick50 said:
you'll have to forgive XDA, recently it has attracted many young people that get bullied at home and school, this is a place they can come and anonymously display their e-toughness. Just ignore them.
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Luckily i've been a member for a number of years so don't fall into this category...
If it wasn't for XDA recently attracting many young people that weren't taught at home or school in how to do something for themselves once in a while they wouldn't have to come and anonymously display their e-laziness. Just shut up.
EDIT: THANKS JRBOURQUE ^

Hi guys, if the battle for whos the cleverist is now over, heres some feed back for the advice given.
I've installed, Evils q&d sensefroyo. Been running it for a few days, its cool. A little buggy, a few force closes, high battery use, no bluetooth, but very usable.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=730290
Again thanks for the input, hope this helps anyone else who was looking for similar info.
Cheers.

I tried kingxclikz and Paul's r23 roms, I must say the first one is very buggy and there are no ways to use it even for 24h(though I think it needs an eclair radio),Paul's rom is way more stable but the lack of Metamorph themes,trackball mods and BT are too important.
He promised to release a new version soon so all we can do is wait and see!

Ughh. No BT on any sense ROM then?

Is anybody even working on bluetooth for Desire roms? I don't think anybody actually is. There are a few people I think might be capable like Paul but he's busy with other things now by the looks of it

[Q] Best Android Build?

I have just plunged into android and I am using HTCClays SuperDesire build - I like it, but I have an issue with data connection dropping out (Vodafone UK).
So I was wondering what was another good version to try? Here is my requirements.
Good Data connection.
Camera working (seems premature flash is an issue on all builds?)
Bluetooth working
Good Battery life
Not concerned about Sense
In addition, (whilst I am re-building) does the WM Rom make any difference are there any recommendations on this (i.e Titanium only?)
Cheers
Mark.

Here is my requirements.
* No APN crash
* Camera with flash working
* Bluetooth working / contacts transfer.
* No HTC Sense
* No touch screen freezes
* Working G-Sensors

what's up with the shopping lists? open up the threads and look at the first post! they all say exactly what works/doesn't work/what to expect!
i'm not giving you a fish. go catch your own.

OMG...... another one

This is getting ridiculous now.....

This is just getting disrespectful to developers and even other XDA members! Do some reading, every ROM thread has what's working and what's not! so why give a list of your requirements, you want to be so picky, so build one yourself!
You can't make a thread in my opinion stating which is the best as they all have they uses, people have they favourites but why not go try some and see which works best for you?

I want
1.A pink pony
2.a new car
3.a new house
4.a lotto ticket worth 900,000,000,000.00 dolaars
RLMAO......

my first build was shubcraft but version 1.3,i have to admit that i was really satisfied (in spite of some functions weren't working).then i tried desire hd build by darkstone and i felt in love with new sense.i've been using it for a month or so but is still quite buggy.from yesterday i have darstone's froyostone v 3.1 and so far everything is really good but i miss some features from new sense

lonewolf1972 said:
I want
1.A pink pony
2.a new car
3.a new house
4.a lotto ticket worth 900,000,000,000.00 dolaars
RLMAO......
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5.Jessica Alba naked in bed every night

Don001 said:
5.Jessica Alba naked in bed every night
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Scarlet johansoon in black bikini in my bed, milla jovovich naked on my piano, elvis presley in my room that play me blue suede shoes every time i want.. LoL Seriously, read and take notice at first post of every build, and try by yourself !!!!!

Gimme, gimme... Don't ppl realise how long and hard this journey has been. It was once said that Android wasn't even possible.
By all means ask for a recommendation if you really don't know where to start but if you have any sense then do your homework like the rest of us.
Rant over.
Sent from my Nexus One using XDA App

I've been using Bangsters for quite a while now and I think it's been the most stable one so far that I've tried.
I did use Hyperdroid because of the performance but lack of wifi tether made me switch

markbhai said:
I have just plunged into android and I am using HTCClays SuperDesire build - I like it, but I have an issue with data connection dropping out (Vodafone UK).
So I was wondering what was another good version to try? Here is my requirements.
Good Data connection.
Camera working (seems premature flash is an issue on all builds?)
Bluetooth working
Good Battery life
Not concerned about Sense
In addition, (whilst I am re-building) does the WM Rom make any difference are there any recommendations on this (i.e Titanium only?)
Cheers
Mark.
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I found the best way to have good romness is go get all roms from target. Unzip with zipfly and copy all themselves *****es to one folder called bestest kanged rom ever. Now put on SD. Flash your mom your huge rom. Click clrad 5 times. Click haret 1 and then pull the battery. I did and I grew hair down there
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People in here have to RELAX! the thread starter asked a simple question!
Tell me exactly whats wrong with having some preference about the rom? Even the devs would get something good out of it.

rugo80 said:
Scarlet johansoon in black bikini in my bed, milla jovovich naked on my piano, elvis presley in my room that play me blue suede shoes every time i want.. LoL Seriously, read and take notice at first post of every build, and try by yourself !!!!!
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Scarlett johansson.. Hmm dribbling as I type this!! I would do illegal stuff with her!
Not to sure about the Elvis Presley quote though lol, personal taste I guess, nothing wrong with that..

jornbjorn said:
People in here have to RELAX! the thread starter asked a simple question!
Tell me exactly whats wrong with having some preference about the rom? Even the devs would get something good out of it.
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lets start with asking questions in the questions forum. that way this post can be with the other 6 exact same posts from the last 2 days.

As the thread starter, I find many of the responses un-helpful.
I believe that I stated that my main issue was that data was dropping out. This was not stated as a bug in the first post, and before I put the software on my Leo I also checked a few of the final posts, which is a good way to spot any major issues.
I accept that Android is new to Leo and that there are inevitable bugs, hence me asking for advice.
Its good to see that 'Senoir Members' are so helpful ! (that was sarcasm by the way!)
Never mind with the answer I will look for myself with trial and error.
What a helpful community! (Not).
Mark.

In all seriousness, If your looking for stable data connection I would try out this build. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=786809
It runs great and its RMNET so its more reliable as far as data goes, it also looks [email protected] Data is the most stable for me out of all builds. See if its the same for you.

bates_1974 said:
This is getting ridiculous now.....
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10507 said:
OMG...... another one
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lonewolf1972 said:
I want
1.A pink pony
2.a new car
3.a new house
4.a lotto ticket worth 900,000,000,000.00 dolaars
RLMAO......
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grow up
markbhai said:
As the thread starter, I find many of the responses un-helpful.
I believe that I stated that my main issue was that data was dropping out. This was not stated as a bug in the first post, and before I put the software on my Leo I also checked a few of the final posts, which is a good way to spot any major issues.
I accept that Android is new to Leo and that there are inevitable bugs, hence me asking for advice.
Its good to see that 'Senoir Members' are so helpful ! (that was sarcasm by the way!)
Never mind with the answer I will look for myself with trial and error.
What a helpful community! (Not).
Mark.
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the thread you started is inappropriate :
1. different builds work differently in different countries, cell networks. etc
2. Not a single build appeals to the likes of everyone.
3. People will only give varying and often contradicting reports of builds they tried.
RESULT:
a thread that will lead to nowhere
Dont be lazy and read up, test and give us your feedback, positive or negative.

This isn't development, so moved to general. Also, closed the thread, as there are plenty of people discussing ROMs and what works.
@OP, please read the first post of each release, as it explains what's working and what isn't etc.
Thread closed.

Need a good rom. Please advise.

hi guys. so in the last few days i've been messing around with Android/NAND and i have to say somethings are still problematic...
my main rom that i tried which somewhat worked great (and even had arabic files for it) is the HD2 CoreDroid DHD V1 ROM. This is a great ROM however its very very sluggish and slow at booting/doing anything ... it is a nightmare to wake up the HD2 when its in sleep and there are these two to four seconds of "pausing" it has. [edit: i am starting to blame the Class 4 8GB microSD here. i'll have to change it and report]
so i got bored and decided what the he** let me try WP7... i have to say WP7 with its limitations is very smooth on the HD2.. the animations which i wish the android has are really smooth and fluid.
this is not to say i am sticking wp7 on my beloved hd2.. i am just asking the most basic questions here:
Can I find a ROM thats quick, supports the arabic libskia* files or has them compiled to work and still be quick?

Check here

Wrong Section bro.
Theres plenty of fast roms around here... try some out like all of us.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=928
You can find all the nice roms in the above link!
Better, don't create this kind of threads, search-download-test and choose on your own!
Good luck!
Try Dandiest rom in SD Android section, I think it supports Arabic .... as you want to run wm7 along with Android, right?

and yet these responses are expected. oh well. thanks anyhow..
but still though i wanted to know if anyone is experiencing slowdowns on ROMS like the 2/4 sec delay and during screen wakeup...

Sentinel196 said:
Check here
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really cool. i'll use that now...

cylent said:
and yet these responses are expected. oh well. thanks anyhow..
but still though i wanted to know if anyone is experiencing slowdowns on ROMS like the 2/4 sec delay and during screen wakeup...
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This has also been covered a hundred times in each ROM's thread and does not belong in the development forum.
Check here

Try MDJ FroYo Revolution 2.3

cylent said:
and yet these responses are expected. oh well. thanks anyhow..
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Well if you was expecting these responses you should have anticipated that we would say..
a) Post in the correct section, you are not a dev and this topic is not development.
b) Dont post silly topics, "good", "best", "stable" etc etc etc are all subjective terms and differs from device to device and person to person, go try some roms and make your own decision like we do.

cylent said:
hi guys. so in the last few days i've been messing around with Android/NAND and i have to say somethings are still problematic...
my main rom that i tried which somewhat worked great (and even had arabic files for it) is the HD2 CoreDroid DHD V1 ROM. This is a great ROM however its very very sluggish and slow at booting/doing anything ... it is a nightmare to wake up the HD2 when its in sleep and there are these two to four seconds of "pausing" it has. [edit: i am starting to blame the Class 4 8GB microSD here. i'll have to change it and report]
so i got bored and decided what the he** let me try WP7... i have to say WP7 with its limitations is very smooth on the HD2.. the animations which i wish the android has are really smooth and fluid.
this is not to say i am sticking wp7 on my beloved hd2.. i am just asking the most basic questions here:
Can I find a ROM thats quick, supports the arabic libskia* files or has them compiled to work and still be quick?
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I have been trying the MDJ's CyanogenMod 7 v. 2.6. It works great and it boots automaticaly once you turn the phone on. Please see thread below:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=877777
Hope it helps.

24hrsdeals said:
...it boots automaticaly once you turn the phone on.
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All NAND builds do, even WP7. It's a setting in magldr (menu or boot NAND/SD). Or am I not understanding what you're getting at?

[Q] Done to death but still one last time -Which NAND would be the best for HD2

hi ,
I am pretty sure that your guys are tried of topics like these already but i dont know where else to go . Can you guys please help me figure out which NAND android Rom would be the best suitable for me?
this is what i need my phone to do :
*use it as an everyday rom so has to be pretty stable.
* need normal phone operations working e.g - GPS, Bluetooth, texting,dialing,speaker phone, wifi,camera,video camera,flash
*want flash,swype ,app2sd,internet tethering with usb and wifi hotspot and of course the android market app.
*A somewhat fast rom , and need to be able install and use apps from the sd card. live wallpapers would be cool but not a necessity.
Again in advance I am really sorry if i came across as smug or needy or ignorant or not willing to use the search feature.That was not my intention , read a lot of posts here and there forums and all different kind of roms are only confusing me further.Thats why i registered and decided to write this post.I'll post this at XDA as well hope i get some help .
again thats in advance and sorry if my post was annoying, just trying to learn.

hi.
probably hundreds to choose from ,but the one in my sig works well for me and pretty much covers the things you're after

Look no further
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=926507

depends whether you want with or without "sense"
core droid has sense
tytung does not

Most of the things you outlined like GPS etc. work on every ROM now.

which flavor of ice cream is the best?

mini_robot said:
which flavor of ice cream is the best?
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Strawberry chessecake. ;D

mini_robot said:
which flavor of ice cream is the best?
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dont like ice cream

Why not read one of the existing threads about which build is best and base your decision from that? Just so you know, there is no right and wrong answer. Just because I like Hispanic chicks, with fat #$%$# doesn't mean you have to like Hispanic chicks with fat #$^#$.

Really??? What I do is read the entire build thread usually there are one to four pages about each build on each indivisual ROM. This is where you are going to obtain information about the ROM itself. Then download one, hell download 10 try them out. I am personally a fan of the Desire ROM's.

akapaul26 said:
Really??? What I do is read the entire build thread usually there are one to four pages about each build on each indivisual ROM. This is where you are going to obtain information about the ROM itself. Then download one, hell download 10 try them out. I am personally a fan of the Desire ROM's.
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There is no way you can expect a Guy to come in here and read all the build threads in their entirety, and I also find it hard to believe you do. Just recommend the Guy a solid nand rom, I would but I'm only running SD builds with wp7 on nand
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anap40 said:
There is no way you can expect a Guy to come in here and read all the build threads in their entirety, and I also find it hard to believe you do. Just recommend the Guy a solid nand rom, I would but I'm only running SD builds with wp7 on nand
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I HAVE and do read the entire build thread on the ones I am interested in, doing so is a good idea. Again this is where you get the information about the build. It is only going to take 5-10 minutes to read through an entire developers first post (1-4 pages max) So lets see, if you read through 12 builds at 5 minutes you have only invested an hour of time and gained a lot of knowledge. Most builds take about 30 minutes to download so while you are downloading ONE build you can educate yourself on at least 5 other builds you might be interested in. Some builds I start reading turn me off right away, those I dont bother going back too. Also if you are too lazy to read through a build then you are probably going to install it wrong and spend double the amount of time it should of taken. I AM JUST SAYING!
TO THE OP:
I like desire builds:
Currently using this build
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=976384&page=15
Love this one too
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=915159&page=323

anap40 said:
There is no way you can expect a Guy to come in here and read all the build threads in their entirety, and I also find it hard to believe you do. Just recommend the Guy a solid nand rom, I would but I'm only running SD builds with wp7 on nand
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I'm not saying i have read every single thread in relation to a certain build that i may have flashed on my phone but ive read a lot on here and have flashed a lot, no interest in WINMO anymore although i used to especially like the NRG ROM's also Laurentius but as regards Android until such time a stable Honeycomb build comes about ill stick with Sergio Coredroid it is IMO the best there is, i must give a mention to previous builds ive had which were excellent like Darkstones NAND SUPERAM,exceptionally fast but discontinued, also MDJ, Xboarder and Rafpigna but Sergio's is for me no 1.

I used what is called ...."most stable" froyo 2.2 . GPS dont work.

anap40 said:
There is no way you can expect a Guy to come in here and read all the build threads in their entirety, and I also find it hard to believe you do. Just recommend the Guy a solid nand rom, I would but I'm only running SD builds with wp7 on nand
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I've read the first, and last five pages of almost every NAND build thread. He needs to do what we did, and install different builds until he finds one that suits his needs. Like it's been said a thousand times, just because I like hispanic chicks doesn't mean he's going to like Hispanic chicks.
Plus, he could have opened one of the numerous, "what rom is best?" threads and gotten the same answer he would have gotten here.
It also makes me laugh that you're calling buddy a liar. If you're so concerned with the OP getting a solid build, then why don't you toss the SD version, install all of the NAND builds, and turn in an essay about which build is best?

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I've read the first, and last five pages of almost every NAND build thread. He needs to do what we did, and install different builds until he finds one that suits his needs. Like it's been said a thousand times, just because I like hispanic chicks doesn't mean he's going to like Hispanic chicks.
Plus, he could have opened one of the numerous, "what rom is best?" threads and gotten the same answer he would have gotten here.
It also makes me laugh that you're calling buddy a liar. If you're so concerned with the OP getting a solid build, then why don't you toss the SD version, install all of the NAND builds, and turn in an essay about which build is best?
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That's what I'm talking about, great post, for that you get a thanks!!!

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That's what I'm talking about, great post, for that you get a thanks!!!
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No problem bro. LOL @ the guy calling you a liar. Some people amaze me.

seriously guys , my intention was not to create a problem.I am not lazy either, i have done my fair share of reading but you have to understand for a guy who has no idea about linux or android ( except that its a kickass software for phones) all the information out there could be a little overwhelming.I didn't read quiet a few" which rom is the best " and they all confused me even more .The most prevalent answers those pots got was a lot a bashing with some " every rom is different , pick one that suits your needs" . Thats why when i started my thread i specifically mentions what i "desired" from the rom.I am really confused about the phone now. Some people on other forums are saying that since HD2 wasn't made for Android you would't get a stable rom for everyday use it is sure to mess up.Its posts like these that are confusing me even more and i am actually thinking about returning the phone and take the easy route of getting a samsung Vibrant.
again thanks for all the guys who mentioned their roms and the ones thats tried to help .honestly just because someone is asking a question doest mean that they were lazy and didnt read anything . If i didn't read anything then i would't have known about NAND .
PS: i love hispanic chicks with huge @%%^ too. Infact i love them all with huge )*##*#

anap40 said:
There is no way you can expect a Guy to come in here and read all the build threads in their entirety, and I also find it hard to believe you do. Just recommend the Guy a solid nand rom, I would but I'm only running SD builds with wp7 on nand
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you know what
thank you

HD2 Android development stall

I know there are a lot of people out there excited about getting sense 3.0 on hd2 and all that jazz, but has nobody else noticed, the kingdom roms etc have dragged development on hd2 to an absolute crawl, we've completely dropped of xda's front page and to me it seems that its because everybody is doing the same thing and having the same problems doing such. Pretty much everything in nand development is now about trying to get camera working properly and remove graphic glitches from kingdom roms....really...do I need 15 different versions of the same rom ALL with EXACTLY the same issues, and all with EXACTLY the same time frame for resolution...that is to say, there is no time frame. I'm being a whiney little bugger I know, but seriously, and this is the worst thing I could ever say about xda...I'm bored! Its all the same and its all rubbish...I would much prefere if somebody would do me a favour and return to building a nice simple rom on which EVERYTHING works, just put some effort into that so when I see something interesting, I can just whip my phone out and take a pic, rather than having to explain to everyone nearby that my camera doesn't work because the rom was rushed out so I can have a shiny lock screen instead. The roms used to work 100%, but then everyone got carried away with sense lockscreens and quadrant scores....I don't care about any of those things...I would like a rom that just works all round. And before somebody makes a snarky comment along the lines of "if you want it so bad why don't you do it yourself?" Well...simple answer, I'm not smart enough, I love xda because we're an open community where talented people share their work freely just for the pleasure of seeing something that was never intended to be boot up on our devices...amazing! And I don't mind donating when something is GOOD, when it works and I appreciate the technical work that went in to make it work...not the technical work that went in to make it look pretty, at the expense of some fairy disastrous issues.
Please xda, enough with the benchmark willy waving competition! Please somebody just go back to making things that work rather than pretty...pretty useless...eyecandy!
And one final closer, I KNOW those issues are inherant to porting the kingdom rom...so here's an idea...ditch the kingdom rom! Just go back to desire base...yes maybe the quadrant score is only a third of newer roms...but you know what...the Desire roms FELT fast and smooth because they were simple and quite light on the cpu....all the new roms are slow and tooth grindingly stuttery and laggy, even with their amazing benchmark scores. So I say poo to benchmarking and active lockscreens...how about a working camera and a rom that actually FEELS complete?
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Peteryoung said:
I know there are a lot of people out there excited about getting sense 3.0 on hd2 and all that jazz, but has nobody else noticed, the kingdom roms etc have dragged development on hd2 to an absolute crawl, we've completely dropped of xda's front page and to me it seems that its because everybody is doing the same thing and having the same problems doing such. Pretty much everything in nand development is now about trying to get camera working properly and remove graphic glitches from kingdom roms....really...do I need 15 different versions of the same rom ALL with EXACTLY the same issues, and all with EXACTLY the same time frame for resolution...that is to say, there is no time frame. I'm being a whiney little bugger I know, but seriously, and this is the worst thing I could ever say about xda...I'm bored! Its all the same and its all rubbish...I would much prefere if somebody would do me a favour and return to building a nice simple rom on which EVERYTHING works, just put some effort into that so when I see something interesting, I can just whip my phone out and take a pic, rather than having to explain to everyone nearby that my camera doesn't work because the rom was rushed out so I can have a shiny lock screen instead. The roms used to work 100%, but then everyone got carried away with sense lockscreens and quadrant scores....I don't care about any of those things...I would like a rom that just works all round. And before somebody makes a snarky comment along the lines of "if you want it so bad why don't you do it yourself?" Well...simple answer, I'm not smart enough, I love xda because we're an open community where talented people share their work freely just for the pleasure of seeing something that was never intended to be boot up on our devices...amazing! And I don't mind donating when something is GOOD, when it works and I appreciate the technical work that went in to make it work...not the technical work that went in to make it look pretty, at the expense of some fairy disastrous issues.
Please xda, enough with the benchmark willy waving competition! Please somebody just go back to making things that work rather than pretty...pretty useless...eyecandy!
And one final closer, I KNOW those issues are inherant to porting the kingdom rom...so here's an idea...ditch the kingdom rom! Just go back to desire base...yes maybe the quadrant score is only a third of newer roms...but you know what...the Desire roms FELT fast and smooth because they were simple and quite light on the cpu....all the new roms are slow and tooth grindingly stuttery and laggy, even with their amazing benchmark scores. So I say poo to benchmarking and active lockscreens...how about a working camera and a rom that actually FEELS complete?
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yes...so why not starting today...make a ROM urself ???

We are all waiting for .35 desire kernel source from HTC?

Peteryoung said:
I know there are a lot of people out there excited about getting sense 3.0 on hd2 and all that jazz, but has nobody else noticed, the kingdom roms etc have dragged development on hd2 to an absolute crawl,
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No, that is because there are less top devs on the device now, Some have moved on to different devices.
Peteryoung said:
we've completely dropped of xda's front page and to me it seems that its because everybody is doing the same thing and having the same problems doing such.
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Not at all, ist do to with view counts, posts created etc.
Peteryoung said:
Pretty much everything in nand development is now about trying to get camera working properly and remove graphic glitches from kingdom roms....really...do I need 15 different versions of the same rom ALL with EXACTLY the same issues,
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What you "need" has nothing to do with it, devs dont work on the roms because they have to, They do it because they WANT to, They work on what they "need" or want to and then share the work.
Peteryoung said:
and all with EXACTLY the same time frame for resolution...that is to say, there is no time frame. I'm being a whiney little bugger I know,
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Correct.
Peteryoung said:
but seriously, and this is the worst thing I could ever say about xda...I'm bored! Its all the same and its all rubbish...
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Completely disagree, The work and progress done on the Sense 3 roms is amazing, Sorry you are too ignorant and ungrateful to appreciate that.
Peteryoung said:
I would much prefere if somebody would do me a favour and return to building a nice simple rom on which EVERYTHING works,
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Then go and download one of the older non-sense froyo/GB roms like NexusHD2.
Peteryoung said:
just put some effort into that so when I see something interesting, I can just whip my phone out and take a pic, rather than having to explain to everyone nearby that my camera doesn't work because the rom was rushed out so I can have a shiny lock screen instead.
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Well that's your problem, The fact that you are having to do this means that you are CHOOSING to install work in progress builds rather then more developed builds, Its your fault and your problem.
Peteryoung said:
The roms used to work 100%,
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Err no they didn't, They was developed into a state where they eventually worked and the same will happen to Sense roms.
Peteryoung said:
but then everyone got carried away with sense lockscreens and quadrant scores....I don't care about any of those things...I would like a rom that just works all round.
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Then go download one?!?!
Peteryoung said:
And before somebody makes a snarky comment along the lines of "if you want it so bad why don't you do it yourself?" Well...simple answer, I'm not smart enough, I love xda because we're an open community where talented people share their work freely just for the pleasure of seeing something that was never intended to be boot up on our devices...amazing!
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EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sense Roms where never designed to run on HD2 and that is why they are been developed to do so! If you don't want to be patient or be part of the testing then that's your choice, go and download a simple stock rom!
Peteryoung said:
And one final closer, I KNOW those issues are inherant to porting the kingdom rom...so here's an idea...ditch the kingdom rom! Just go back to desire base...yes maybe the quadrant score is only a third of newer roms...but you know what...the Desire roms FELT fast and smooth because they were simple and quite light on the cpu....all the new roms are slow and tooth grindingly stuttery and laggy, even with their amazing benchmark scores. So I say poo to benchmarking and active lockscreens...how about a working camera and a rom that actually FEELS complete?
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Desire base has been ported already and doesn't need more work until the desire gets and update. If you like the desire base so much why don't you just stick to the roms already available? Ill tell you why because you enjoy trying new builds, again that's your decision but you cant then complain just because most of the devs are hard at work on what THEY want to work on rather then what YOU want them to work on!
I personally don't want them to work on anything else apart from the kingdom, why? because its down to personal preference just like yours, at the end of the day its upto each individual dev what they work on!
PS. Please go and learn how to use paragraphs and sentence breaks etc as it just gets on your nerves when trying to read big long blocks like that.

ugh. this crap again? really? another thread dedicated to complaining that xda isn't giving you everything you want yesterday? and what do you expect with this kind of "support" - developers to come running over to you and ask you what you want?
this is exactly, exactly, what pushes people away from here.
really, you should have stopped with "I'm being a whiney little bugger" and just left. really, no one is begging you to stay. you aren't contributing; you are detracting. go on; leave.
@ theatheist - your points (as usual) are right on

jsmccabe78 said:
ugh. this crap again? really? another thread dedicated to complaining that xda isn't giving you everything you want yesterday? and what do you expect with this kind of "support" - developers to come running over to you and ask you what you want?
this is exactly, exactly, what pushes people away from here.
really, you should have stopped with "I'm being a whiney little bugger" and just left. really, no one is begging you to stay. you aren't contributing; you are detracting. go on; leave.
@ theatheist - your points (as usual) are right on
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Seconded!
Ignorant people like this OP need banning.

TheATHEiST said:
Seconded!
Ignorant people like this OP need banning.
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Ignorant people, like myself, don't need banning; they need educating - like in your first posting.
I don't tend to go for the latest development, but rather one that works well.
If I want to try out a different version of SD Android, then I read what the chef has posted and all the posts relating to that specific release version. If it states that the camera isn't working yet, then I'll leave it as I use the camera. If it is noted that Bluetooth doesn't connect properly to headset, then I would use it, as I don't Bluetooth.

Playing the devil here:
At some point I can understand Peteryoung and I have seen several other people complain about this as well.
I have the HD2 just to toy around next to my E71 which makes it easy to say that I don't need a +90% working image. If something doesn't work tough ... and I will try another.
It would be nice to have the old trusty working roms like the one from Rafdroid updated to the latest working apps and all of the known fixes in 1 package.
I'm no developer but I am sure some of you could tweak the 'older' sense roms and incorperate all the latest working things. The GPS fixes are a nice example.
I personally applaud the devs in that thread for feedback and just trying to get it to work using feedback and interacting on it.
If the devs are focusing on newer type of roms, so be it and let them do it.
Lets face it, Android is fun on the HD2 but still it is a bit 'playing' around.

A retraction
Guys, I'm sorry
I think I was having a right cranky day when I penned that last grouchy missive.
I stand thoroughly ashamed and rightfully corrected on my last thoughts.
I really do appreciate all the work the devs put in for free here. I really do love the older desire roms and I guess I'm getting old, starting to refuse the changes of the times
I take it all back, I guess I really should stick to what I know best and let the youngsters do what they do best...making NEW stuff, not old.
I must say, I feel a little aggrieved at the sheer vitriol my post gained in response, but hey I guess after I'd battered everybody else with my tirade - that's just what I deserve.
Anyway, I hope the community can find it in their collective hearts to forgive this old sinner - I promise I won't write any more critical tirades on xda any more!
Apologies xda, I love you really xx
Peteryoung
P.S - Was the paragraph structure a little easier on the eye this time round?

Some just are not happy with ****...hey, you don't like it, move on back to WM6.5 where everything works. This is not a native android device so be lucky these developers are spending hours and days and more hours and more days so whiney ass spoiled brats like you can use their work for FREE. Be lucky you can even have ANDROID on the HD2! Another thing is there are plenty of what I consider perfect roms to choose from and many I have donated too.
Your apology is a joke you are still just acting like a *****...man up and get over yourself....

fred_up said:
Ignorant people, like myself, don't need banning; they need educating - like in your first posting.
I don't tend to go for the latest development, but rather one that works well.
If I want to try out a different version of SD Android, then I read what the chef has posted and all the posts relating to that specific release version. If it states that the camera isn't working yet, then I'll leave it as I use the camera. If it is noted that Bluetooth doesn't connect properly to headset, then I would use it, as I don't Bluetooth.
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Exactly
we are at liberty to choose any rom available here irrespective of the development progress
it is fun to flash...Ah, I miss old time when I had to flash ROM 2-3 times a week
Cheers...