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What is the best ROM as of 4-21-10?

What is the most COMPLETE, FASTEST, STABLE basically works the best all around ROM out there right now?
ZenEXP-0.1
Aloysius 2.0.4
DamageControl v2.07.2
Darchdroid v2
DarchLegend OC5.0.6
RegawMOD v2.1
Fresh Rom 2.0d
Ic3Rom v2.0.4
Fresh Toast v1

amot said:
What is the most COMPLETE, FASTEST, STABLE basically works the best all around ROM out there right now?
ZenEXP-0.1
Aloysius 2.0.4
DamageControl v2.07.2
Darchdroid v2
DarchLegend OC5.0.6
RegawMOD v2.1
Fresh Rom 2.0d
Ic3Rom v2.0.4
Fresh Toast v1
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I don't like answering threads like this cause I like people to test them out for themselves cause it's a personal choice. But, if you like Sense builds, check out DarchLegend 5.0.5 (or the stable ROM in the first post of that thread), or Fresh 2.0d. If you like AOSP and don't mind losing camera, definitely check out DarchDroid. I am using it now and it is a solid rom. ZenEXP is fun to play around with, but is not completely functional as of yet. But as I said before, I encourage you to try them all and see what fits you the best.

I like my bread toasted do to OC kernel.
I predict its the future of most hero roms.

I like the MatrixROM.
It's simple, fast, and stable. A good blank slate that you can scale into whatever you want.
Sent from my MatrixROM using the XDA mobile application powered by Tapatalk

Aloysius
is at 2.0.5 now..

amot said:
What is the most COMPLETE, FASTEST, STABLE basically works the best all around ROM out there right now?
ZenEXP-0.1
Aloysius 2.0.4
DamageControl v2.07.2
Darchdroid v2
DarchLegend OC5.0.6
RegawMOD v2.1
Fresh Rom 2.0d
Ic3Rom v2.0.4
Fresh Toast v1
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The point of this thread remains a bit unclear to me. Are you assuming
that we are all the same and your idea of best is the same as ours?
Also everyones exp are different. If you would flash a rom blindly
because someone you dont even know is serious or not suggested it,
then you my friend are probably due for a phone bricking rickrolling.....
Good luck to all those that flash because of others suggestions on
finding something that you yourself truely enjoy. Its bascially the same
as asking ppl to tell you what your favorite sitcom is. I would assume
anyone here already knows their favorite rom(If they havent compiled
it themselves)along with the reasons for it being so. But we all contribute
to the community in different ways, and if this is yours then thanks.

CB.CP is Epic!!! Very Fast!!

Yet another thread that shouldn't need to exist....there are plenty of other threads asking essentially the same exact question.....
*sighs* anyways...the only correct answer to your thread OP.....the best rom out there is the one that works best for you and your needs. Sift through all the roms out there and you will find your diamond in the rough.

MagnusRagnarok said:
The point of this thread remains a bit unclear to me. Are you assuming
that we are all the same and your idea of best is the same as ours?
Also everyones exp are different. If you would flash a rom blindly
because someone you dont even know is serious or not suggested it,
then you my friend are probably due for a phone bricking rickrolling.....
Good luck to all those that flash because of others suggestions on
finding something that you yourself truely enjoy. Its bascially the same
as asking ppl to tell you what your favorite sitcom is. I would assume
anyone here already knows their favorite rom(If they havent compiled
it themselves)along with the reasons for it being so. But we all contribute
to the community in different ways, and if this is yours then thanks.
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lol! +1
yes, this thread is pointless. responses here will only be a watered down version of the roms original thread. id advice trying all of them to gain your own idea of what is the best rom.

nighteyes_wolf said:
Yet another thread that shouldn't need to exist....there are plenty of other threads asking essentially the same exact question.....
*sighs* anyways...the only correct answer to your thread OP.....the best rom out there is the one that works best for you and your needs. Sift through all the roms out there and you will find your diamond in the rough.
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+1. Been saying this since I was flashing my Diamond. Every phone plays different and every person has their own opinion. Flash a ROM every week and just play with it. Hell, you could probably find out in less than an hour if the ROM is what you are looking for.

kbizzle said:
CakeButt.ClownPenis is Epic!!! Very Fast!!
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I've seen this in at least 4 threads (not to include the one were this was created and deleted) it's now officially a meme
not that one.... the other one where one of our "devs" rage quited

I agree with this but this isn't as obscene as the whole 2.1 is out garbage.
Yet another thread that shouldn't need to exist....there are plenty of other threads asking essentially the same exact question.....
*sighs* anyway
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+1. Been saying this since I was flashing my Diamond. Every phone plays different and every person has their own opinion. Flash a ROM every week and just play with it. Hell, you could probably find out in less than an hour if the ROM is what you are looking for.
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kbizzle said:
+1. Been saying this since I was flashing my Diamond. Every phone plays different and every person has their own opinion. Flash a ROM every week and just play with it. Hell, you could probably find out in less than an hour if the ROM is what you are looking for.
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Ya but there are people out there who don't have the patience of doing that........ *hulk smash* I lost count how many times I've flashed the last two months since the 2.1 roms started to roll in. Sometimes even if I flash the same rom, wiping in between, I don't always have the same experience twice.
It's a process...but one that leads to happiness in the end once you find that one that makes your phone go 'ahhhhhhhh thats more like it'
I buy my computer chairs the same way...I basically blindfold myself and just start sitting in every damn chair in the store from cheap to expensive till my body lets me know I've made the right choice. Sure....it ends up being a gawd damn $350 chair but it was worth it haha /tangent
Mods please lock this thread

Maybe we can stop calling things pointless and leave it has a just a poll..
We can see what most people prefer and what everyones personal feeling is to the rom they are using.
And also for people rooting for the first time. I wouldnt recommend "just flash every rom you can and make a decision".
I would recommend flashing what the majority of people use and feel comfortable with. And then experiment from there.
This thread can also be informational if people stop complaining and post why they think a certain rom is better.
I understand there is more threads like this, but this has all current roms.

nighteyes_wolf said:
Mods please lock this thread
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um... why? It's a pretty good poll, it would be nice to see what everyone's favorite would be

johnsongrantr said:
um... why? It's a pretty good poll, it would be nice to see what everyone's favorite would be
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Well, ok maybe I'm just mentally exhausted and was a little on the harsh side, but if anything, can this be merged with the other threads asking what the best/fastest/stable roms out there are.....

Agreed w/ a majority of the posters so far....ROM flashing, be it w/ a Droid, a WinMo, or other O/S...is always about user preference. There will never be a consensus "best" in that regard...
That said, while I tend to gloss or skip over threads like this, I do attentively examine the "most stable ROM" threads, as ultimately....regardless of what eye candy or features I want in a phone, it still needs to function AS A PHONE!
I'm sure this priority will vary in rank w/ people who may use their phone for business purposes as much or more than personal (ie. myself), but when it comes down to it, I could care less how many zoom features I have in my camera, so long as my system lag is minimal, SMS works, and I can hear a caller on the other end of the line!
Off my soapbox now, and back to the original question...I'm toggling between the Darchdroid ROM for it's lightning speed and DC's latest w/ the today's latest mod updates. Tomorrow....who the F knows?

pwrmedia said:
Off my soapbox now, and back to the original question...I'm toggling between the Darchdroid ROM for it's lightning speed and DC's latest w/ the today's latest mod updates. Tomorrow....who the F knows?
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I would normally agree with the darchdroid as I really do truely love his work, it feels the fastest, but I'm running into waay too many problems with push gmail, battery life, vm notification, and some other stuff. v2 (pre-OC) worked really well, guess I'll go back to it after stuff gets fixed.
My vote is for fresh-toast as of the time of this post

Jus10o said:
Maybe we can stop calling things pointless and leave it has a just a poll..
We can see what most people prefer and what everyones personal feeling is to the rom they are using.
And also for people rooting for the first time. I wouldnt recommend "just flash every rom you can and make a decision".
I would recommend flashing what the majority of people use and feel comfortable with. And then experiment from there.
This thread can also be informational if people stop complaining and post why they think a certain rom is better.
I understand there is more threads like this, but this has all current roms.
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Obviously you are not speaking of me since i went out of my way to avoid
the word pointless. If this thead was titled "Whats your favorite rom and
why" i never wouldve posted. I didnt come in to find a new rom, i came in
to comment hoping maybe the op will be a little more specific in his/her
next post as not to mislead and waste ppls time. There can never BE a
BEST rom, and hopefully most of us here know that. If not continue to
scour this post by all means, if you look hard enough you might even be
able to find one that imitates the iphone os. If not you should prolly just
go buy one

im the best rom available as of 4-21

Sense-Froyo Rom for Nexus One

Hi,
Does any one know if there is a Sense-Froyo Rom for Nexus One?
If so is it any good / stable, if not any ideas when?
Cool thanks guys.

Yea there is one but stable not really to confident on that but modaco.com you should be able to find a sense ui rom on there

nexus9988 said:
Yea there is one but stable not really to confident on that but modaco.com you should be able to find a sense ui rom on there
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Going for the grammar award?
OP: Did you try searching? It took me roughly 7 seconds to find this --> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=730290
Try working things out for yourself or taking an I.T class in future

cymru said:
Going for the grammar award?
OP: Did you try searching? It took me roughly 7 seconds to find this --> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=730290
Try working things out for yourself or taking an I.T class in future
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I'd rather post a quick question to people who are dealing with this frequently, than trawl the web, sift through junk and install something which has lots of bugs.
Cheer up, its not all bad.
Thanks for the link.

you'll have to forgive XDA, recently it has attracted many young people that get bullied at home and school, this is a place they can come and anonymously display their e-toughness. Just ignore them.
btw, i dont think there is a sense rom that has everything working like your stock version. i hope im wrong but i was interested in rooting to use sense, in the development section i couldnt find any that didnt have disclaimers about things that arent working, so i havent gotten to try it out yet. But again, maybe im wrong, and i hope i am.

Without a criteria of what he is looking for other than good and stable it's hard to give a good answer. It's not about e-toughness, it's about searching, putting together an informative post, and reading the forum rules.
'cymru' is 100% correct. All it took was a search and reading comments about what does and does not work, then nandroid backup and try the rom and see if it passes the "good and stable" test.

DMaverick50 said:
you'll have to forgive XDA, recently it has attracted many young people that get bullied at home and school, this is a place they can come and anonymously display their e-toughness. Just ignore them.
btw, i dont think there is a sense rom that has everything working like your stock version. i hope im wrong but i was interested in rooting to use sense, in the development section i couldnt find any that didnt have disclaimers about things that arent working, so i havent gotten to try it out yet. But again, maybe im wrong, and i hope i am.
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WHat he said.
Sense UI has its bugs on the N1. I think LauncherPro is 100x better than Sense UI. It's just not as smooth (this is coming from experience using it on an Evo 4g)

stuff said:
WHat he said.
Sense UI has its bugs on the N1. I think LauncherPro is 100x better than Sense UI. It's just not as smooth (this is coming from experience using it on an Evo 4g)
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I'd run a stable sense rom if there was one with Launcher Pro as my launcher... I want sense for the camera, calc, dialer, calander, emails etc. not the launcher. The applications on it are just way better quality!

LevitateJay said:
I'd run a stable sense rom if there was one with Launcher Pro as my launcher... I want sense for the camera, calc, dialer, calander, emails etc. not the launcher. The applications on it are just way better quality!
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Well there are some roms that have ported sense camera, and apps.
I do believe my "The Official" rom has them. It didn't come stock with the sense camera, but I had it installed (easy to do from spare parts, plus I have 720p recording).
The best you can do is look for a rom with those things ported over.

Evils q&d sensefroyo is killer he had updates frequently and his newest v1.1 is amazing

crx4xharder said:
Evils q&d sensefroyo is killer he had updates frequently and his newest v1.1 is amazing
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I might check that out...I tried KingKlick's latest rom and my phone rebooted all night long with it. Lamesauce.

I agree with cymru, its not that hard to click one section over to development and see what's there instead of someone making a new thread everytime, and xda agrees. Not a big a deal yes, just saying I agree
Sent from my Nexus One using XDA App

DMaverick50 said:
you'll have to forgive XDA, recently it has attracted many young people that get bullied at home and school, this is a place they can come and anonymously display their e-toughness. Just ignore them.
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Luckily i've been a member for a number of years so don't fall into this category...
If it wasn't for XDA recently attracting many young people that weren't taught at home or school in how to do something for themselves once in a while they wouldn't have to come and anonymously display their e-laziness. Just shut up.
EDIT: THANKS JRBOURQUE ^

Hi guys, if the battle for whos the cleverist is now over, heres some feed back for the advice given.
I've installed, Evils q&d sensefroyo. Been running it for a few days, its cool. A little buggy, a few force closes, high battery use, no bluetooth, but very usable.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=730290
Again thanks for the input, hope this helps anyone else who was looking for similar info.
Cheers.

I tried kingxclikz and Paul's r23 roms, I must say the first one is very buggy and there are no ways to use it even for 24h(though I think it needs an eclair radio),Paul's rom is way more stable but the lack of Metamorph themes,trackball mods and BT are too important.
He promised to release a new version soon so all we can do is wait and see!

Ughh. No BT on any sense ROM then?

Is anybody even working on bluetooth for Desire roms? I don't think anybody actually is. There are a few people I think might be capable like Paul but he's busy with other things now by the looks of it

How's the NAND (really)

I know it has been made possible(thank you fine XDA Devs
But, how solid is it?
Battery - Seems good
Freezing?
Glitches
Hang Ups
Resets
Crashing apps
Not working random features?
Speed
I looked through pretty much the whole topic and I just find random issues all over the place. Some major, some not as much.
I am still running my Nexus One SD Build. It's pretty solid. Does have some random hang ups, crashes and no starts. But, rare maybe just a tiny bit more then my Custom Rommed Vibrant.
I kinda wanna know, since this is the way to go. A NAND build is more of a "true" OS then a SD build.
If you believe your NAND ROM setup is near a 100% I would love to see what combo you are using.

I think your question should be here

how are you ?

evolutionqy7 said:
I think your question should be here
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I was thinking of posting there, but. . .
I want NAND only experience replies. And this would be the place.
If you wanna move the post you can.

I'm currently using MDJ Froyo Revolution at the moment and it's totally stable. I've had no issues whatsoever

samson_420 said:
I was thinking of posting there, but. . .
I want NAND only experience replies. And this would be the place.
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errrr NO it wouldn't be dude.
This is for posting DEV topic ONLY, ie for devs to post their work or projects etc, Not for n00b questions (no offence).
If you want to ask a question then you do it in the correct place ie the Q&A forum. You will get "NAND only experience replies" because that what's your topic is about.
Please dont spam the dev section, this isnt place for conversation topics.

I have noted that the following common issues plague most of the NAND builds I have installed (have tried and used 4 so far):
1. Low in-call volume : there is a fix for this so no longer an issue but was almost a deal breaker.
2. Robotic voice when you make your first call or sometimes randomly.
3. Decreased battery life: this is what is annoying me the most as the battery runs out far more quickly than on WinMo... i dont believe all other claims coz I have tried all the builds personally and i can definitely tell a difference.
4. No TOMTOM for Android. This is very annoying. Copilot and Google Nav just does not cut it for me (agreed this has nothing to do with NAND ROMs but just mentioning it as an issue for me)
Overall I would keep this for my phone if it wasnt for the BATTERY issue which is a deal breaker for me !! I may well go back to WinMo due to this. I definitely need longer battery life than NAND can provide right now.

The Best... NO PROBLEMS what so ever!!
CMYLXGO's Topia HD v1.0n (the newest is 1.5n) but i've had no reason to update
Radio 2.12
Perfect Wi-Fi
No Lag
Speedy
NO PROBLEMS @ ALL!
I highly Recommend!!!!!

TheATHEiST said:
errrr NO it wouldn't be dude.
This is for posting DEV topic ONLY, ie for devs to post their work or projects etc, Not for n00b questions (no offence).
If you want to ask a question then you do it in the correct place ie the Q&A forum. You will get "NAND only experience replies" because that what's your topic is about.
Please dont spam the dev section, this isnt place for conversation topics.
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+1
Don't clutter this area with questions when there's a specific area for it. The mods work hard to keep it clean and people like you don't seem to be able to understand simple instructions. Why?

I love wortless replies, thank you so much.
If it matters that much STFU and move the damn post.
****, my bad tards.

samson_420 said:
I love wortless replies, thank you so much.
If it matters that much STFU and move the damn post.
****, my bad tards.
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god forbid you make a thread! OH NOES teh internetz is running low on threads
i would like to know if switching to NAND is the way to go, and its nice to have one thread to help. jeez likes

samson_420 said:
I love wortless replies, thank you so much.
If it matters that much STFU and move the damn post.
****, my bad tards.
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Nice. Yeah, we're the tards that can't read simple instructions. Do yourself a favor and never take an IQ test.

samson_420 said:
I love wortless replies, thank you so much.
If it matters that much STFU and move the damn post.
****, my bad tards.
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stfu?
Dude you are the person who deliberately posted a question in development forum when you know there is a questions forum!!!
Its you who needs to stfu or ctfo!
If you want worthwhile answers you should post your question in the correct place.

samson_420 said:
I love wortless replies, thank you so much.
If it matters that much STFU and move the damn post.
****, my bad tards.
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It's alright bro, ignore them.
I thought NAND would be made a reality if and only when all the bugs were straightened out and the ROM was deemed NANDworthy? I thought that super RAM or SD builds were fine until such a time a jump to NAND seemed logical going forward.
I think NAND is serving the sole purpose right now for those that absolutely hated WM and get rid of WM completely although I don't see how WM would have come in the way of a super ram or SD build anyway.

asim2002 said:
I have noted that the following common issues plague most of the NAND builds I have installed (have tried and used 4 so far):
1. Low in-call volume : there is a fix for this so no longer an issue but was almost a deal breaker.
2. Robotic voice when you make your first call or sometimes randomly.
3. Decreased battery life: this is what is annoying me the most as the battery runs out far more quickly than on WinMo... i dont believe all other claims coz I have tried all the builds personally and i can definitely tell a difference.
4. No TOMTOM for Android. This is very annoying. Copilot and Google Nav just does not cut it for me (agreed this has nothing to do with NAND ROMs but just mentioning it as an issue for me)
Overall I would keep this for my phone if it wasnt for the BATTERY issue which is a deal breaker for me !! I may well go back to WinMo due to this. I definitely need longer battery life than NAND can provide right now.
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1. only the first sd-builds got the issue, never had with "out-of-beta-state" nand builds.
2. true, have this on every build exact ONE time after flash, then never again.
3. this point is shocking me... i was using stock and custom roms (atermis / HD2O) for 6 months and i have to say that windows have the most ****ed up battery management i've ever seen. randomly 15-85mA in standby with data connections and syncs turned off. that's very ugly and you have to charge the phone nearly every day... on android nand builds i usually have 2-5mA without data connections turned on. with data turned on ~8mA.
4. well... imo tomtom is the worsest and most ugly nav system ever spread. i prefer igo or navigon. i don't need a crappy bruce willis voice on my navigator, i'm a fan of 3d navigation with nice animated functions and nice instructions
at least you can use google navigation with sattelite view turned on.
BTT:
you should use a build made for daily usage... no ginger-stuck-crap or som bloated releases with crapware installed.
just my 2 cents...
my setup:
miui-rom 1.1.7
kernel: 2.6.32.15-prjv3
radio: 2.15.50.14
(clockworkmod)

NAND is awesome
i got this phone because i know NAND would be avaliable.
I played around with winmo for a few days and that was nightmare
Now I stand proudly against those with EVO / DesireHD in their hands/

LoL. . . . Yeah. I love the internet bad asses.
Some how I strongly doubt that any of these posting trolls would say any of this BS to my face.
The biggest issue I am seeing in my SD build is file corruption after a semi extended period of time(at least a week or two).
But, NAND does not seem 100% so far - THE REASON FOR THIS THREAD. . . . Geez
It should be a sticky so people know what to expect and not just flash the living crap out of their phones.

Nowhere near as fast as SUPERAM (Darkstones build) but tomorrow i believe Darkstone will be releasing a NAND/RAM combo so this is yet another excellent advancement in Android development.

samson_420 said:
LoL. . . . Yeah. I love the internet bad asses.
Some how I strongly doubt that any of these posting trolls would say any of this BS to my face.
The biggest issue I am seeing in my SD build is file corruption after a semi extended period of time(at least a week or two).
But, NAND does not seem 100% so far - THE REASON FOR THIS THREAD. . . . Geez
It should be a sticky so people know what to expect and not just flash the living crap out of their phones.
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You're really a tough guy aren't you? Seems to me you're the only internet bad ass around here telling people to STFU. I'd love to say this to your face, but I'm sure you're some 12 year old troll who thinks he's the ****.
Not surprised in the least that you're in AZ, that **** hole is full of fake ass wanna be hard core **** heads like you. Why don't you have your mommy drive you out of that desert **** hole to LA, I'll be happy to say many things to your face.
How's that for internet bad ass?

samson_420 said:
I love wortless replies, thank you so much.
If it matters that much STFU and move the damn post.
****, my bad tards.
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Post reported for posting in the wrong section and insulting other forum members.

[Q] Done to death but still one last time -Which NAND would be the best for HD2

hi ,
I am pretty sure that your guys are tried of topics like these already but i dont know where else to go . Can you guys please help me figure out which NAND android Rom would be the best suitable for me?
this is what i need my phone to do :
*use it as an everyday rom so has to be pretty stable.
* need normal phone operations working e.g - GPS, Bluetooth, texting,dialing,speaker phone, wifi,camera,video camera,flash
*want flash,swype ,app2sd,internet tethering with usb and wifi hotspot and of course the android market app.
*A somewhat fast rom , and need to be able install and use apps from the sd card. live wallpapers would be cool but not a necessity.
Again in advance I am really sorry if i came across as smug or needy or ignorant or not willing to use the search feature.That was not my intention , read a lot of posts here and there forums and all different kind of roms are only confusing me further.Thats why i registered and decided to write this post.I'll post this at XDA as well hope i get some help .
again thats in advance and sorry if my post was annoying, just trying to learn.

hi.
probably hundreds to choose from ,but the one in my sig works well for me and pretty much covers the things you're after

Look no further
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=926507

depends whether you want with or without "sense"
core droid has sense
tytung does not

Most of the things you outlined like GPS etc. work on every ROM now.

which flavor of ice cream is the best?

mini_robot said:
which flavor of ice cream is the best?
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Strawberry chessecake. ;D

mini_robot said:
which flavor of ice cream is the best?
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dont like ice cream

Why not read one of the existing threads about which build is best and base your decision from that? Just so you know, there is no right and wrong answer. Just because I like Hispanic chicks, with fat #$%$# doesn't mean you have to like Hispanic chicks with fat #$^#$.

Really??? What I do is read the entire build thread usually there are one to four pages about each build on each indivisual ROM. This is where you are going to obtain information about the ROM itself. Then download one, hell download 10 try them out. I am personally a fan of the Desire ROM's.

akapaul26 said:
Really??? What I do is read the entire build thread usually there are one to four pages about each build on each indivisual ROM. This is where you are going to obtain information about the ROM itself. Then download one, hell download 10 try them out. I am personally a fan of the Desire ROM's.
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There is no way you can expect a Guy to come in here and read all the build threads in their entirety, and I also find it hard to believe you do. Just recommend the Guy a solid nand rom, I would but I'm only running SD builds with wp7 on nand
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anap40 said:
There is no way you can expect a Guy to come in here and read all the build threads in their entirety, and I also find it hard to believe you do. Just recommend the Guy a solid nand rom, I would but I'm only running SD builds with wp7 on nand
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
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I HAVE and do read the entire build thread on the ones I am interested in, doing so is a good idea. Again this is where you get the information about the build. It is only going to take 5-10 minutes to read through an entire developers first post (1-4 pages max) So lets see, if you read through 12 builds at 5 minutes you have only invested an hour of time and gained a lot of knowledge. Most builds take about 30 minutes to download so while you are downloading ONE build you can educate yourself on at least 5 other builds you might be interested in. Some builds I start reading turn me off right away, those I dont bother going back too. Also if you are too lazy to read through a build then you are probably going to install it wrong and spend double the amount of time it should of taken. I AM JUST SAYING!
TO THE OP:
I like desire builds:
Currently using this build
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=976384&page=15
Love this one too
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=915159&page=323

anap40 said:
There is no way you can expect a Guy to come in here and read all the build threads in their entirety, and I also find it hard to believe you do. Just recommend the Guy a solid nand rom, I would but I'm only running SD builds with wp7 on nand
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I'm not saying i have read every single thread in relation to a certain build that i may have flashed on my phone but ive read a lot on here and have flashed a lot, no interest in WINMO anymore although i used to especially like the NRG ROM's also Laurentius but as regards Android until such time a stable Honeycomb build comes about ill stick with Sergio Coredroid it is IMO the best there is, i must give a mention to previous builds ive had which were excellent like Darkstones NAND SUPERAM,exceptionally fast but discontinued, also MDJ, Xboarder and Rafpigna but Sergio's is for me no 1.

I used what is called ...."most stable" froyo 2.2 . GPS dont work.

anap40 said:
There is no way you can expect a Guy to come in here and read all the build threads in their entirety, and I also find it hard to believe you do. Just recommend the Guy a solid nand rom, I would but I'm only running SD builds with wp7 on nand
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I've read the first, and last five pages of almost every NAND build thread. He needs to do what we did, and install different builds until he finds one that suits his needs. Like it's been said a thousand times, just because I like hispanic chicks doesn't mean he's going to like Hispanic chicks.
Plus, he could have opened one of the numerous, "what rom is best?" threads and gotten the same answer he would have gotten here.
It also makes me laugh that you're calling buddy a liar. If you're so concerned with the OP getting a solid build, then why don't you toss the SD version, install all of the NAND builds, and turn in an essay about which build is best?

WorldWide60 said:
I've read the first, and last five pages of almost every NAND build thread. He needs to do what we did, and install different builds until he finds one that suits his needs. Like it's been said a thousand times, just because I like hispanic chicks doesn't mean he's going to like Hispanic chicks.
Plus, he could have opened one of the numerous, "what rom is best?" threads and gotten the same answer he would have gotten here.
It also makes me laugh that you're calling buddy a liar. If you're so concerned with the OP getting a solid build, then why don't you toss the SD version, install all of the NAND builds, and turn in an essay about which build is best?
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That's what I'm talking about, great post, for that you get a thanks!!!

akapaul26 said:
That's what I'm talking about, great post, for that you get a thanks!!!
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No problem bro. LOL @ the guy calling you a liar. Some people amaze me.

seriously guys , my intention was not to create a problem.I am not lazy either, i have done my fair share of reading but you have to understand for a guy who has no idea about linux or android ( except that its a kickass software for phones) all the information out there could be a little overwhelming.I didn't read quiet a few" which rom is the best " and they all confused me even more .The most prevalent answers those pots got was a lot a bashing with some " every rom is different , pick one that suits your needs" . Thats why when i started my thread i specifically mentions what i "desired" from the rom.I am really confused about the phone now. Some people on other forums are saying that since HD2 wasn't made for Android you would't get a stable rom for everyday use it is sure to mess up.Its posts like these that are confusing me even more and i am actually thinking about returning the phone and take the easy route of getting a samsung Vibrant.
again thanks for all the guys who mentioned their roms and the ones thats tried to help .honestly just because someone is asking a question doest mean that they were lazy and didnt read anything . If i didn't read anything then i would't have known about NAND .
PS: i love hispanic chicks with huge @%%^ too. Infact i love them all with huge )*##*#

anap40 said:
There is no way you can expect a Guy to come in here and read all the build threads in their entirety, and I also find it hard to believe you do. Just recommend the Guy a solid nand rom, I would but I'm only running SD builds with wp7 on nand
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you know what
thank you

HD2 Android development stall

I know there are a lot of people out there excited about getting sense 3.0 on hd2 and all that jazz, but has nobody else noticed, the kingdom roms etc have dragged development on hd2 to an absolute crawl, we've completely dropped of xda's front page and to me it seems that its because everybody is doing the same thing and having the same problems doing such. Pretty much everything in nand development is now about trying to get camera working properly and remove graphic glitches from kingdom roms....really...do I need 15 different versions of the same rom ALL with EXACTLY the same issues, and all with EXACTLY the same time frame for resolution...that is to say, there is no time frame. I'm being a whiney little bugger I know, but seriously, and this is the worst thing I could ever say about xda...I'm bored! Its all the same and its all rubbish...I would much prefere if somebody would do me a favour and return to building a nice simple rom on which EVERYTHING works, just put some effort into that so when I see something interesting, I can just whip my phone out and take a pic, rather than having to explain to everyone nearby that my camera doesn't work because the rom was rushed out so I can have a shiny lock screen instead. The roms used to work 100%, but then everyone got carried away with sense lockscreens and quadrant scores....I don't care about any of those things...I would like a rom that just works all round. And before somebody makes a snarky comment along the lines of "if you want it so bad why don't you do it yourself?" Well...simple answer, I'm not smart enough, I love xda because we're an open community where talented people share their work freely just for the pleasure of seeing something that was never intended to be boot up on our devices...amazing! And I don't mind donating when something is GOOD, when it works and I appreciate the technical work that went in to make it work...not the technical work that went in to make it look pretty, at the expense of some fairy disastrous issues.
Please xda, enough with the benchmark willy waving competition! Please somebody just go back to making things that work rather than pretty...pretty useless...eyecandy!
And one final closer, I KNOW those issues are inherant to porting the kingdom rom...so here's an idea...ditch the kingdom rom! Just go back to desire base...yes maybe the quadrant score is only a third of newer roms...but you know what...the Desire roms FELT fast and smooth because they were simple and quite light on the cpu....all the new roms are slow and tooth grindingly stuttery and laggy, even with their amazing benchmark scores. So I say poo to benchmarking and active lockscreens...how about a working camera and a rom that actually FEELS complete?
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Peteryoung said:
I know there are a lot of people out there excited about getting sense 3.0 on hd2 and all that jazz, but has nobody else noticed, the kingdom roms etc have dragged development on hd2 to an absolute crawl, we've completely dropped of xda's front page and to me it seems that its because everybody is doing the same thing and having the same problems doing such. Pretty much everything in nand development is now about trying to get camera working properly and remove graphic glitches from kingdom roms....really...do I need 15 different versions of the same rom ALL with EXACTLY the same issues, and all with EXACTLY the same time frame for resolution...that is to say, there is no time frame. I'm being a whiney little bugger I know, but seriously, and this is the worst thing I could ever say about xda...I'm bored! Its all the same and its all rubbish...I would much prefere if somebody would do me a favour and return to building a nice simple rom on which EVERYTHING works, just put some effort into that so when I see something interesting, I can just whip my phone out and take a pic, rather than having to explain to everyone nearby that my camera doesn't work because the rom was rushed out so I can have a shiny lock screen instead. The roms used to work 100%, but then everyone got carried away with sense lockscreens and quadrant scores....I don't care about any of those things...I would like a rom that just works all round. And before somebody makes a snarky comment along the lines of "if you want it so bad why don't you do it yourself?" Well...simple answer, I'm not smart enough, I love xda because we're an open community where talented people share their work freely just for the pleasure of seeing something that was never intended to be boot up on our devices...amazing! And I don't mind donating when something is GOOD, when it works and I appreciate the technical work that went in to make it work...not the technical work that went in to make it look pretty, at the expense of some fairy disastrous issues.
Please xda, enough with the benchmark willy waving competition! Please somebody just go back to making things that work rather than pretty...pretty useless...eyecandy!
And one final closer, I KNOW those issues are inherant to porting the kingdom rom...so here's an idea...ditch the kingdom rom! Just go back to desire base...yes maybe the quadrant score is only a third of newer roms...but you know what...the Desire roms FELT fast and smooth because they were simple and quite light on the cpu....all the new roms are slow and tooth grindingly stuttery and laggy, even with their amazing benchmark scores. So I say poo to benchmarking and active lockscreens...how about a working camera and a rom that actually FEELS complete?
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yes...so why not starting today...make a ROM urself ???

We are all waiting for .35 desire kernel source from HTC?

Peteryoung said:
I know there are a lot of people out there excited about getting sense 3.0 on hd2 and all that jazz, but has nobody else noticed, the kingdom roms etc have dragged development on hd2 to an absolute crawl,
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No, that is because there are less top devs on the device now, Some have moved on to different devices.
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we've completely dropped of xda's front page and to me it seems that its because everybody is doing the same thing and having the same problems doing such.
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Not at all, ist do to with view counts, posts created etc.
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Pretty much everything in nand development is now about trying to get camera working properly and remove graphic glitches from kingdom roms....really...do I need 15 different versions of the same rom ALL with EXACTLY the same issues,
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What you "need" has nothing to do with it, devs dont work on the roms because they have to, They do it because they WANT to, They work on what they "need" or want to and then share the work.
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and all with EXACTLY the same time frame for resolution...that is to say, there is no time frame. I'm being a whiney little bugger I know,
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Correct.
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but seriously, and this is the worst thing I could ever say about xda...I'm bored! Its all the same and its all rubbish...
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Completely disagree, The work and progress done on the Sense 3 roms is amazing, Sorry you are too ignorant and ungrateful to appreciate that.
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I would much prefere if somebody would do me a favour and return to building a nice simple rom on which EVERYTHING works,
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Then go and download one of the older non-sense froyo/GB roms like NexusHD2.
Peteryoung said:
just put some effort into that so when I see something interesting, I can just whip my phone out and take a pic, rather than having to explain to everyone nearby that my camera doesn't work because the rom was rushed out so I can have a shiny lock screen instead.
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Well that's your problem, The fact that you are having to do this means that you are CHOOSING to install work in progress builds rather then more developed builds, Its your fault and your problem.
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The roms used to work 100%,
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Err no they didn't, They was developed into a state where they eventually worked and the same will happen to Sense roms.
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but then everyone got carried away with sense lockscreens and quadrant scores....I don't care about any of those things...I would like a rom that just works all round.
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Then go download one?!?!
Peteryoung said:
And before somebody makes a snarky comment along the lines of "if you want it so bad why don't you do it yourself?" Well...simple answer, I'm not smart enough, I love xda because we're an open community where talented people share their work freely just for the pleasure of seeing something that was never intended to be boot up on our devices...amazing!
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EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sense Roms where never designed to run on HD2 and that is why they are been developed to do so! If you don't want to be patient or be part of the testing then that's your choice, go and download a simple stock rom!
Peteryoung said:
And one final closer, I KNOW those issues are inherant to porting the kingdom rom...so here's an idea...ditch the kingdom rom! Just go back to desire base...yes maybe the quadrant score is only a third of newer roms...but you know what...the Desire roms FELT fast and smooth because they were simple and quite light on the cpu....all the new roms are slow and tooth grindingly stuttery and laggy, even with their amazing benchmark scores. So I say poo to benchmarking and active lockscreens...how about a working camera and a rom that actually FEELS complete?
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Desire base has been ported already and doesn't need more work until the desire gets and update. If you like the desire base so much why don't you just stick to the roms already available? Ill tell you why because you enjoy trying new builds, again that's your decision but you cant then complain just because most of the devs are hard at work on what THEY want to work on rather then what YOU want them to work on!
I personally don't want them to work on anything else apart from the kingdom, why? because its down to personal preference just like yours, at the end of the day its upto each individual dev what they work on!
PS. Please go and learn how to use paragraphs and sentence breaks etc as it just gets on your nerves when trying to read big long blocks like that.

ugh. this crap again? really? another thread dedicated to complaining that xda isn't giving you everything you want yesterday? and what do you expect with this kind of "support" - developers to come running over to you and ask you what you want?
this is exactly, exactly, what pushes people away from here.
really, you should have stopped with "I'm being a whiney little bugger" and just left. really, no one is begging you to stay. you aren't contributing; you are detracting. go on; leave.
@ theatheist - your points (as usual) are right on

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ugh. this crap again? really? another thread dedicated to complaining that xda isn't giving you everything you want yesterday? and what do you expect with this kind of "support" - developers to come running over to you and ask you what you want?
this is exactly, exactly, what pushes people away from here.
really, you should have stopped with "I'm being a whiney little bugger" and just left. really, no one is begging you to stay. you aren't contributing; you are detracting. go on; leave.
@ theatheist - your points (as usual) are right on
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Seconded!
Ignorant people like this OP need banning.

TheATHEiST said:
Seconded!
Ignorant people like this OP need banning.
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Ignorant people, like myself, don't need banning; they need educating - like in your first posting.
I don't tend to go for the latest development, but rather one that works well.
If I want to try out a different version of SD Android, then I read what the chef has posted and all the posts relating to that specific release version. If it states that the camera isn't working yet, then I'll leave it as I use the camera. If it is noted that Bluetooth doesn't connect properly to headset, then I would use it, as I don't Bluetooth.

Playing the devil here:
At some point I can understand Peteryoung and I have seen several other people complain about this as well.
I have the HD2 just to toy around next to my E71 which makes it easy to say that I don't need a +90% working image. If something doesn't work tough ... and I will try another.
It would be nice to have the old trusty working roms like the one from Rafdroid updated to the latest working apps and all of the known fixes in 1 package.
I'm no developer but I am sure some of you could tweak the 'older' sense roms and incorperate all the latest working things. The GPS fixes are a nice example.
I personally applaud the devs in that thread for feedback and just trying to get it to work using feedback and interacting on it.
If the devs are focusing on newer type of roms, so be it and let them do it.
Lets face it, Android is fun on the HD2 but still it is a bit 'playing' around.

A retraction
Guys, I'm sorry
I think I was having a right cranky day when I penned that last grouchy missive.
I stand thoroughly ashamed and rightfully corrected on my last thoughts.
I really do appreciate all the work the devs put in for free here. I really do love the older desire roms and I guess I'm getting old, starting to refuse the changes of the times
I take it all back, I guess I really should stick to what I know best and let the youngsters do what they do best...making NEW stuff, not old.
I must say, I feel a little aggrieved at the sheer vitriol my post gained in response, but hey I guess after I'd battered everybody else with my tirade - that's just what I deserve.
Anyway, I hope the community can find it in their collective hearts to forgive this old sinner - I promise I won't write any more critical tirades on xda any more!
Apologies xda, I love you really xx
Peteryoung
P.S - Was the paragraph structure a little easier on the eye this time round?

Some just are not happy with ****...hey, you don't like it, move on back to WM6.5 where everything works. This is not a native android device so be lucky these developers are spending hours and days and more hours and more days so whiney ass spoiled brats like you can use their work for FREE. Be lucky you can even have ANDROID on the HD2! Another thing is there are plenty of what I consider perfect roms to choose from and many I have donated too.
Your apology is a joke you are still just acting like a *****...man up and get over yourself....

fred_up said:
Ignorant people, like myself, don't need banning; they need educating - like in your first posting.
I don't tend to go for the latest development, but rather one that works well.
If I want to try out a different version of SD Android, then I read what the chef has posted and all the posts relating to that specific release version. If it states that the camera isn't working yet, then I'll leave it as I use the camera. If it is noted that Bluetooth doesn't connect properly to headset, then I would use it, as I don't Bluetooth.
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Exactly
we are at liberty to choose any rom available here irrespective of the development progress
it is fun to flash...Ah, I miss old time when I had to flash ROM 2-3 times a week
Cheers...