I thought about some Nand Builds with Sense and Desire HD Builds and most of them have squashfd to get more free space. But why? I think removing any stock apps or widgets and compress as much as possible is not the right way to get a full functional Desire HD Build on a HD2.
Maybe it is possible to use some Space from SD Card to lower the Space Problems? I Have a Netbook with 4 GB internal Storage on SSD and i extendes the usable Space with an 8 GB SD Card with an partition for Apps and Games. There is no Problem to get the System to use other Partitions for Apps and so on. So why it is not possible to put /data/apps to an external Drive on SD Card?
I don't know if some other Problems occure by this way but i think if it is possible to do it we will get as much space as a SD Card could give or not?
I love Desire HD Builds but i hate non stock Builds with new Apps witch i preffer to install by myselfe if i need them and with removal of serval apps like friendstream or something else. And the Squashfsed Filesystem makes it harder to fix missing apps or remove not used apps.
Sorry for my bad English. But i hope someone understand what i mean and could think about if its possible or not
Modinstalllocation let you install ANY application on your sd card. Problem resolved
Some roms are already storing the userdata.img om the SD card.
Then all user data/apps get saved to SD and the NAND is only for sysfiles.
Is this what you mean? If so, check the NAND section to look for these 'userdata.img' roms and try one.
Yes i saw a Desire Z Build with data.img on SD Card. So i only have to wait untill all other Builds like Desire HD are using this option? I think there are only two Desre HD Builds at the moment (Feather HD and Gauners Desire HD) and both dont use SD Card for Data. Gauner told me he is still abit in trouble with privat things and could not spend 24 hours for this Build. And the other Build is not what i want! Without so many nice Apps and Widgets i could use stock Froyo and thats it.
Maybe i just have to wait ... who knows.
>Prometheus< said:
Yes i saw a Desire Z Build with data.img on SD Card. So i only have to wait untill all other Builds like Desire HD are using this option? I think there are only two Desre HD Builds at the moment (Feather HD and Gauners Desire HD) and both dont use SD Card for Data. Gauner told me he is still abit in trouble with privat things and could not spend 24 hours for this Build. And the other Build is not what i want! Without so many nice Apps and Widgets i could use stock Froyo and thats it.
Maybe i just have to wait ... who knows.
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Firstly, amazing day, finally been able to get rid of winmo and get android into my NAND.
Sadly, i keep running into free space issues which is a bit frustrating. Im sure it might be something i am doing (or not doing), but was wondering if i am alone. As far as details, im running UK HD2, with DFT - SENSE rom flashed into my NAND and radio 2.15. I had no problems with the flash process and the phone generally works well.
I have apps2sd running and it says there are no apps that can be moved to the SD so i have everything where it should be. My SD is listed as 6.1gb free but internal memory is 115in use and about 38mb free. I cant even get copilot to install as it just says there is no space left (although i was running the .apk from the sd to install on the sd).
Could this be because i was previously using the sd card for android? Anyone else having these issues?
Thanks.
geekyhawkes said:
Firstly, amazing day, finally been able to get rid of winmo and get android into my NAND.
Sadly, i keep running into free space issues which is a bit frustrating. Im sure it might be something i am doing (or not doing), but was wondering if i am alone. As far as details, im running UK HD2, with DFT - SENSE rom flashed into my NAND and radio 2.15. I had no problems with the flash process and the phone generally works well.
I have apps2sd running and it says there are no apps that can be moved to the SD so i have everything where it should be. My SD is listed as 6.1gb free but internal memory is 115in use and about 38mb free. I cant even get copilot to install as it just says there is no space left (although i was running the .apk from the sd to install on the sd).
Could this be because i was previously using the sd card for android? Anyone else having these issues?
Thanks.
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Same problem with me I only have 35 mb free internal memory ,own using cotulla nand desire Rom
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try the desire hd version, it has a bit more space ..
the owner of a hd2 (us) with 1024mb have no problems with that ..
Hi
Did you try titanium backup to move apps from nand to SD, it should be better to give it a try...
Using nexushd2 I have 216 MB free space.
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Tmo US W/Desire HD 538mb Free!
frankinstine said:
Tmo US W/Desire HD 538mb Free!
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TMOUS HD2 Rocks
I just get free space only 99 mb on my hd2, i want to know why each device don't be got free space as same as ones.
My hd2 runs in Colluta's desire nand rom.
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This is not a problem with you guys, it's just with the 512 limit of our devices.
Be patient and someone /Cotulla/ will fix it so that we can install to SD card.
BTW
I just downloaded move2sd and it works just fine. Now my apps go to the sd and i've moved all possible apps to sd.
I am left with 82 mb which should be enough for txt and logs...
Im glad im not by myself with this. I guess the solution will come when the devs get chance to get ext4 up and running on our sd cards as data.img, that way the problem goes away. apps2sd/titanium etc are all fine, but if you have a lot of apps then you will always be in the situation i am of bouncing off the warning of low space.
The only problem is now the low space...
Hope the devs can add a partition from the SD that functions as the internal memory.
And people with 1024leo's should stfu. It's like saying to a blind person.. hah that's weird I can see perfectly fine.
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The only problem is now the low space...
Hope the devs can add a partition from the SD that functions as the internal memory.
And people with 1024leo's should stfu. It's like saying to a blind person.. hah that's weird I can see perfectly fine.
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Totally agree with the ignorant TMOUS owners saying they have no problems. I used to put a 4gb data.img in with my builds to make sure I had plenty of space. Still early days so lets wait for TMOUS users to come forward saying they have used up all their memory.
Putting that aside, the same problem happens with most other devices. I suppose using Android from SD card we had the luxury of choosing how big data.img to have. Now we are in the same boat as other Android handsets with the exception we cant go into recovery mode. If we could go into recovery mode then we could partition the SD card into two partitions. One for sd card usage like music, pictures etc and the other partition as ext3 to expand the phone memory onto the sd card.
If Cotulla or the DFT enables us to use our device in recovery mode, maybe they should only make it for HD2 Europe devices, seeing as TMOUS owners are all saying they have plenty of memory.
Google Earth and Flash Player are killing me.
They still hold much space after moving to sd.
Looking forward to app2ext.
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Totally agree with the ignorant TMOUS owners saying they have no problems. I used to put a 4gb data.img in with my builds to make sure I had plenty of space. Still early days so lets wait for TMOUS users to come forward saying they have used up all their memory.
Putting that aside, the same problem happens with most other devices. I suppose using Android from SD card we had the luxury of choosing how big data.img to have. Now we are in the same boat as other Android handsets with the exception we cant go into recovery mode. If we could go into recovery mode then we could partition the SD card into two partitions. One for sd card usage like music, pictures etc and the other partition as ext3 to expand the phone memory onto the sd card.
If Cotulla or the DFT enables us to use our device in recovery mode, maybe they should only make it for HD2 Europe devices, seeing as TMOUS owners are all saying they have plenty of memory.
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Sorry man, not tring to be ignorant, I do love my TMo HD2. Ido agree with you on the ext3. I have my N1 w/a2sd and its awesome, no need to worry about space.I had about 95+ apps at one time and still had 150mb free of internal. Im guessing once we get a recovery img. we can then get the ext3 and a2sd working as it should. I have clockworks recovery on my N1 and works awsome. You can Backup any part of your rom even your ext3. Also Amon_RA's recovery is good too cause it has PSfreedom implemented, for those looking at PSFreedom Modds
hello, i hope my thread didnt post somewhere else.
so, i am using hs2 and i installed android 2.2 yesterday and i installed 8 apps on it. everything is working perfect until i installed google eath. i run it and it says that i dont have enough space and it close.. i also remove many apps and i only have 50mb internal memory only. how do i clean android because i wanna install more apps soon!
also how many mb internal memory hd2 has?
is android installed on internal memory of my hd2 thats why its running low now??
thanks i hope to get what am looking for
USA T-Mobile HD2 - 1024MB ROM
Everywhere else - 512MB ROM
Which NAND build are you using? Perhaps it supports A2SD, A2SD+, data2ext, data2sd, if it does one of those, partitioning your MicroSD card and formatting the partition in ext2/ext3/ext4 will give you more space to install applications.
LiFE1688 said:
USA T-Mobile HD2 - 1024MB ROM
Everywhere else - 512MB ROM
Which NAND build are you using? Perhaps it supports A2SD, A2SD+, data2ext, data2sd, if it does one of those, partitioning your MicroSD card and formatting the partition in ext2/ext3/ext4 will give you more space to install applications.
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wait wait wait i bought hd2 at 14/1 and i put android at 13/1 so am sooo noob on these what A2SD, A2SD+, data2ext, data2sd are?
how do i partition my sd? how do i format to ext...
i got 512rom btw uk one
thanks
This is the downside of using NAND rom, the internal memory is very low. My phone is showing about 120 MB available and still I permanent have the icon telling me low disk space.
So there is a solution and that is to partition the sd card? Are there any instructions for this available so it becames part of the OS?. I have searched but could not seem to find the proper thread.
BTW I am using the "desire stock rom":
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=893620
Have a look at this one. Especially the instructions.
Or search the NAND Forum Titles for App2SD, Data2EXT, ext4, data.img or something like that.
lenarass said:
wait wait wait i bought hd2 at 14/1 and i put android at 13/1 so am sooo noob on these what A2SD, A2SD+, data2ext, data2sd are?
how do i partition my sd? how do i format to ext...
i got 512rom btw uk one
thanks
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"-_- sweat -_-"
I am not going to explain what it is, but instead, I am gonna tell you what to look at. When choosing a ROM.
Example1:
[15 JAN] -=MDJ's CyanogenMod 7 v. 2.4 [A2SD+][GRH78][RMNET][Kernel: MDJ S10.4 OC]
See the wonderful [A2SD+] that means it uses A2SD+
Example2:
[16 JAN][DAF][ZIP] RAFDROID HD 2.2 [DATA2EXT][Kern:MDJ 10.3][RMNET][UPDATED!]
This uses data2ext
Example3:
[30 DEC][DFT]LEO "Stock Desire" NAND Android ROM
This doesn't use anything, so you are screwed... you run out of space, that's it, SCREWED.
I highly recommend that you read this, and understand what it says.
[10 JAN][RECOVERY] ClockworkMod Recovery for HD2 - v1.2
Because Clockwork makes things really easy for noobs, if you want to call yourself that. It is also used in every Android Devices that I know of, including the Real HTC DesireHD, Samsung Galaxy S, Samsung Nexus S, HTC Desire, and many more. HD2 users prefer people to do everything for them and package everything neatly, then complain about having to wipe everything away each update.
** [GUIDE] How to format SD-Card to EXT 3 **
bakskj, so yah, you have 120MB left. So unless you know how to put A2SD, A2SD+ or data2sd or data2ext into the ROM you are using now, pretty much, use that 120MB sparingly, that's all you will have.
LiFE1688 said:
"-_- sweat -_-"
I am not going to explain what it is, but instead, I am gonna tell you what to look at. When choosing a ROM.
Example1:
[15 JAN] -=MDJ's CyanogenMod 7 v. 2.4 [A2SD+][GRH78][RMNET][Kernel: MDJ S10.4 OC]
See the wonderful [A2SD+] that means it uses A2SD+
Example2:
[16 JAN][DAF][ZIP] RAFDROID HD 2.2 [DATA2EXT][Kern:MDJ 10.3][RMNET][UPDATED!]
This uses data2ext
Example3:
[30 DEC][DFT]LEO "Stock Desire" NAND Android ROM
This doesn't use anything, so you are screwed... you run out of space, that's it, SCREWED.
I highly recommend that you read this, and understand what it says.
[10 JAN][RECOVERY] ClockworkMod Recovery for HD2 - v1.2
Because Clockwork makes things really easy for noobs, if you want to call yourself that. It is also used in every Android Devices that I know of, including the Real HTC DesireHD, Samsung Galaxy S, Samsung Nexus S, HTC Desire, and many more. HD2 users prefer people to do everything for them and package everything neatly, then complain about having to wipe everything away each update.
** [GUIDE] How to format SD-Card to EXT 3 **
bakskj, so yah, you have 120MB left. So unless you know how to put A2SD, A2SD+ or data2sd or data2ext into the ROM you are using now, pretty much, use that 120MB sparingly, that's all you will have.
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amazing post . bit i use LEO "Stock Desire" NAND Android ROM so am SCREWED . do i have to install NEW ROM ? and start downloading apss from the bigging? if yes what rom is the best ?xda-developers - Reply to Topic or RAFDROID HD 2.2 ?
whats the difference between these 3 roms? more available internal space?
thankss
Urm, it's hard to say what is the best. I guess look at the screen shot and choose the one that looks the most pleasing?
But you know what, now that you are starting again,
[10 JAN][RECOVERY] ClockworkMod Recovery for HD2 - v1.2
READ THAT... USE THAT...
Then choose a ROM that says CLOCKWORK
-=DOWNLOAD v. 2.4 A2SD+ NAND Clockwork Mod=-
Like that. This way, if you have a small little fix, you don't have to reflash the whole rom, some nice guy/girl might already post up the fix in a nice zip file that you can use clockwork to install.
LiFE1688 said:
Urm, it's hard to say what is the best. I guess look at the screen shot and choose the one that looks the most pleasing?
But you know what, now that you are starting again,
[10 JAN][RECOVERY] ClockworkMod Recovery for HD2 - v1.2
READ THAT... USE THAT...
Then choose a ROM that says CLOCKWORK
-=DOWNLOAD v. 2.4 A2SD+ NAND Clockwork Mod=-
Like that. This way, if you have a small little fix, you don't have to reflash the whole rom, some nice guy/girl might already post up the fix in a nice zip file that you can use clockwork to install.
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thx but am too confuzed. i will wait for a better android that does everything without flashing again and again
lenarass said:
thx but am too confuzed. i will wait for a better android that does everything without flashing again and again
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All of them do everything. Have you at least tried one?
hello00 said:
All of them do everything. Have you at least tried one?
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flashed on nand the original desire android on my hd2. its 2.2ver and i cant save app on sd card. the other 2 ver are 2.3 android right? the last one?
PLEASE NOTE:
There are down sides to using app2sd and data on sd.... Namely you cannot mount the SD Card via usb.
The single best option for having a stable, low maintenance build is projections Stock desire, which has some squashing to reduce the space. HD builds are all flawed for 512mb users because of the size. You either have no space, or you cannot mount your sd card.
Based on that I would always go for a stock desire/evo based build, which give full functionality, but with ~180mb free space. Everybody is so quick to ask for data on sd.... but the corruption factor that is still there, combined with the inability to mount the drive, makes it a no go for many people who are starting out, and will be back on here in a few days asking why they are getting force closes, or why they cannot access SD card via usb.
Good comments
MattOG said:
PLEASE NOTE:
There are down sides to using app2sd and data on sd.... Namely you cannot mount the SD Card via usb.
The single best option for having a stable, low maintenance build is projections Stock desire, which has some squashing to reduce the space. HD builds are all flawed for 512mb users because of the size. You either have no space, or you cannot mount your sd card.
Based on that I would always go for a stock desire/evo based build, which give full functionality, but with ~180mb free space. Everybody is so quick to ask for data on sd.... but the corruption factor that is still there, combined with the inability to mount the drive, makes it a no go for many people who are starting out, and will be back on here in a few days asking why they are getting force closes, or why they cannot access SD card via usb.
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First off thanks for the informative replies. I think I'm gonna go for a partitioned one because more space is essential for me.
What i do want to know is. Is there a fix for those eventual crashes and what not? And if they are really to annoying. Because nothing beats stability.
hi
i have tried several cwr roms but only one daf rom , the imilka desire z rom. the good thing about the rom was that i could copy the data file on my sd card which made me install all the basic built and applications on sd rather than in the internal memory. however i dont know but the rom was really buggy and slow. so i switched to cwr, an another desire z build . the problem with this rom is that the internal memory is now only 120 mb. not all applications are movable to sd card using app 2 sd and again the phone has become very slow
i looked around boyppc and wanted to try their desire hd rom. but it gives many option like cwr, cwr(clean) , daf and daf(clean)
please tell me what is with the (clean) thing
2) also let me know if i am using zip rom is there any way i can copy the data file on my sd card like that of daf so to make internal space more.
thanks in advance
A daf(clean) or CWR(clean) version mean that a lot of apps like, twitter, Facebook, flicker, etc... have been left off the Rom to improve System space. In addition certain wallpapers or ringtones and anything else that might be seen as an add on may be left off as well. Most of these apps/ wallpapers can still be downloaded from the market
As for your second question, I have a Tmous phone but I will usually install an EU version (if applies) of a Rom because it is usually set up with an SD-ext
Hope this helps!
Yes I've searched and have not found a definite answer.
Sorry I'm new to the HD2 coming from a Vibrant but was wondering what is faster and more efficient?
NAND or SD?
Alanrocks15 said:
Yes I've searched and have not found a definite answer.
Sorry I'm new to the HD2 coming from a Vibrant but was wondering what is faster and more efficient?
NAND or SD?
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NAND has more ROMs and seems better on battery life, but both are good.
If you are going to be Android only (no WP7 Dual-Boot) I'd probably go NAND. However, here are the things I like more about sd:
1) This ROM IMO is better than any NAND I've seen: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=957652
2) You get more "phone storage" because you can basically choose how much space you have. This eliminates the need for an ext partition on your SD or any fear of running out of app space.
3) multiple ROMs. You can have like 5 roms on SD and all you do is tell the bootloader which to load or change the folder name and it boots!
For those reasons I prefer SD, but NAND offers more choices.
From what I've found, speed wise...just depends on the rom but typically NAND is faster. Stability wise NAND is from what I've used and tried. But it mainly depends on which OS you have on NAND Windows wise from what I've gathered but I don't have any interest in WM6.5 so I've ran all NAND builds lately without any issues.
I have setup a dual boot of WP7 and SD Android and it worked ok but found I typically didn't boot into WP7 as much so I wiped and went NAND Android
orangekid said:
2) You get more "phone storage" because you can basically choose how much space you have. This eliminates the need for an ext partition on your SD or any fear of running out of app space.
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With the built in Apps 2 SD in Gingerbread it's a easy transfer to memory card without having to install a ext partition. It's all built in on the Applications menu to move them to the SD card to free up app space in the memory
with nand you can also have multi roms on your sd and flash at random. i have about 3 i like best and then flash when i feel the need for a change. i personally prefer nand over sd but if you ask someone else they're likely to disagree. the big reason i like nand over sd is because i see a huge difference in battery life with nand and i also prefer android over winmo. if you like winmo and would use it then go the sd route but if you dont like it & dont plan to use it then go the nand route.
Hi
Tried to search for quite a while now.
Unsuccessfully.
so I'll ask; is it possible to dual boot the HTC hd2...
.......with two versions of android BOTH on the sdcard.
not different cards. The same on (assuming there's enough space)
Sorry if there's a previous thread: couldn't find it.
Many thanks
Yes. One method is to use two NativeSD ROMs. Higher the class sdcard the better it works.
All you need to do is install the NativeSD ROMs in the ext4 partition and then when you want to change from rom1 to rom2 you just launch the application, choose rom2 and reboot.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1869673
thanks very much to that/
you can even triple boot
try the links below, it might help
thanks for that! i had no clue but triple boot would be great!
one for daily use, one for performance, and one for testing! :laugh::highfive:
Some guys have around 12 android native sd roms running from same sd card and wp7 running from nand
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i've currently managed five android roms on an 8gb sdcard, with extremely high performance on all but one.
however, from what i've heard, and read you need a lot larger sdcards, often just for one or two roms. could u please explain whats going on? and what does the card class have to do with it? cosidering you have 3 hd2s in the family, all with high level mods, i'm sure you know
You will need atleast 1 gb per rom to install more apps...so partition according to your needs...remaining fat 32 portion is common to share between the rom s installed..so if you want lot of music or movies, naturally you will need more...also if you have wp7 on nand, you will need another partition for that..so you probably will need larger card...
I have 16 gb cards with wp7, 2 native sd android rom
Class 4 atleast will ensure better speed..use sandisk...
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