hi
i have tried several cwr roms but only one daf rom , the imilka desire z rom. the good thing about the rom was that i could copy the data file on my sd card which made me install all the basic built and applications on sd rather than in the internal memory. however i dont know but the rom was really buggy and slow. so i switched to cwr, an another desire z build . the problem with this rom is that the internal memory is now only 120 mb. not all applications are movable to sd card using app 2 sd and again the phone has become very slow
i looked around boyppc and wanted to try their desire hd rom. but it gives many option like cwr, cwr(clean) , daf and daf(clean)
please tell me what is with the (clean) thing
2) also let me know if i am using zip rom is there any way i can copy the data file on my sd card like that of daf so to make internal space more.
thanks in advance
A daf(clean) or CWR(clean) version mean that a lot of apps like, twitter, Facebook, flicker, etc... have been left off the Rom to improve System space. In addition certain wallpapers or ringtones and anything else that might be seen as an add on may be left off as well. Most of these apps/ wallpapers can still be downloaded from the market
As for your second question, I have a Tmous phone but I will usually install an EU version (if applies) of a Rom because it is usually set up with an SD-ext
Hope this helps!
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Hi guys, i found an app in the Amarket called Move2SD Enabler! This app change the root of the app and u can move it on sd, even if the app is installed in the phone memory! I'm italian so the app is in italian and i dunno if the app is multilanguage! so i post a guide how to do!
search and download the app!when u open it u have to choose external to move all app on sd! then u choose apply and give the root permissions and then u go to settings and manage apps and move downloaded app on sd.. nad save a lot of internal memory... bye guys! hope this helps u!
Hello !!
Maybe this is not good post for reply to this , but i was thinking about apps running from sdcard , remember, nand is internal memory, so if you put apps on sdcard (external) you should be less better life battery than apps running from Nand, this will access more times to the sdcard and it will remember you time of non-nand roms ...
You decide ! ...i have an usage of sdcard for Photos , videos , downloads, etc etc... maybe i tell true...you should test it ...you will see better battery life i think....
jphilouxx said:
Hello !!
Maybe this is not good post for reply to this , but i was thinking about apps running from sdcard , remember, nand is internal memory, so if you put apps on sdcard (external) you should be less better life battery than apps running from Nand, this will access more times to the sdcard and it will remember you time of non-nand roms ...
You decide ! ...i have an usage of sdcard for Photos , videos , downloads, etc etc... maybe i tell true...you should test it ...you will see better battery life i think....
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JPhilouxx, for European users, the big concern about NAND is the low internal storage of the phone after installing the NAND BUILD. Sometimes the free memory at the start- without adding any app, just the NAND BUILD as is- is just 180 MB. Taking into account that some apps can not run from SD, like Google Maps, Opera, ADOBE FLASH.... we have serious problem just to use main apps. Always the message of low internal memory appears everytime you are updating google mail or google maps. Even some apps can not just move to SD completely, so we are waiting for any fix to this low internal memory. I have seen that some developers have started to split the IMG into SD although main system is loaded from internal memory.
In the meantime, some apps like our italian colleague is talking about can be a little help.
BR
This is what I recommend.
Root your HD2 Android phone by donwloading z4root.apk.
http://tinyurl.com/32yarv5
Apply and restart phone.
Download and install ModInstallLocation.
http://tinyurl.com/3a2flgc
In Superuser app, allow ModInstallLocation app.
Restart phone.
In ModInstallLocation app choose location 2 (SD Card) and save
Maybe restart can't remember.
From now on any app you download will AUTOMATICALLY be installed on SD card. Also you can move your existing apps from Phone to SD in the Application settings.
BRILLIANT STUFF!
tboy2000 said:
This is what I recommend.
Root your HD2 Android phone by donwloading z4root.apk.
http://tinyurl.com/32yarv5
Apply and restart phone.
Download and install ModInstallLocation.
http://tinyurl.com/3a2flgc
In Superuser app, allow ModInstallLocation app.
Restart phone.
In ModInstallLocation app choose location 2 (SD Card) and save
Maybe restart can't remember.
From now on any app you download will AUTOMATICALLY be installed on SD card. Also you can move your existing apps from Phone to SD in the Application settings.
BRILLIANT STUFF!
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Thank you very much for your tips. Thinking to avoid Titanium Back Up for the moment, as not all app are restored to SD, so it will be better going one by one.
Rocheau said:
JPhilouxx, for European users, the big concern about NAND is the low internal storage of the phone after installing the NAND BUILD. Sometimes the free memory at the start- without adding any app, just the NAND BUILD as is- is just 180 MB. Taking into account that some apps can not run from SD, like Google Maps, Opera, ADOBE FLASH.... we have serious problem just to use main apps. Always the message of low internal memory appears everytime you are updating google mail or google maps. Even some apps can not just move to SD completely, so we are waiting for any fix to this low internal memory. I have seen that some developers have started to split the IMG into SD although main system is loaded from internal memory.
In the meantime, some apps like our italian colleague is talking about can be a little help.
BR
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Thank's for this answer , for me i've installed all my apps , i think more 60 apps with low and good sizes as games etc... it run fine and very smooth with cpu clocked to 806mhz, i have tweaked rom via Cyanogenmod in the performance menu and i have a really big difference on speed, when i click on my tasker for end apps i have +300mo free on ram, but really thinking about desire hd roms , i've tested each one and i have this message memory alert with 20apps or 30, depends on size.. my choice is CyanoGenMod Rom's because no really need to install this "Apps2sd" and my battery know it!! i have 25mo free internal memory on my Hd2 with all my apps installed ..soo what else ?! i don't need )
My 8gb sd card have a much free space for all others things ..
sorry if i don't really understand all you message but i see what you want to say!
Thank you Mr Rocheau
But really this will be nice if it's splitted to sd because many desire hd roms will be not very "usable(???)" with low memory , so i prefer return to non nand desire hd builds on sdcard like before ..this will be the same i think for battery life ..maybe not ..all advices are welcome !!! ))
Maybe you should go 'hybrid' and place applications that you use a lot on your internal memory. And apps that you don't use a lot (like games and navigation software for example) on your SD card. This way you will only use extra power when you use these apps.
For the moment I'm waiting on a clean android NAND build. Sense takes up a lot of NAND space..
yes this is true ,before i've installed senses roms , desire hd build, with nand tech' and exactly do the same thing what you say , this is an option , really !
Each of us should test more and more tweaks like that and we'll know how many drain on it with our batteries.. So much more times on our lovely Htc HD2 !!! we need to spend more time on it for find the best hardware configuration for an usual daily rom, i think future is with CyanoGenmod Rom's they are the best for our HD2 and stable for daily use... sorry again i'm french i don't speak english so much..thanks
tboy2000 said:
This is what I recommend.
Root your HD2 Android phone by donwloading z4root.apk.
http://tinyurl.com/32yarv5
Apply and restart phone.
Download and install ModInstallLocation.
http://tinyurl.com/3a2flgc
In Superuser app, allow ModInstallLocation app.
Restart phone.
In ModInstallLocation app choose location 2 (SD Card) and save
Maybe restart can't remember.
From now on any app you download will AUTOMATICALLY be installed on SD card. Also you can move your existing apps from Phone to SD in the Application settings.
BRILLIANT STUFF!
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thanks I m testing it with NAND HD Revolution (superlight edition); already rooted
I thought about some Nand Builds with Sense and Desire HD Builds and most of them have squashfd to get more free space. But why? I think removing any stock apps or widgets and compress as much as possible is not the right way to get a full functional Desire HD Build on a HD2.
Maybe it is possible to use some Space from SD Card to lower the Space Problems? I Have a Netbook with 4 GB internal Storage on SSD and i extendes the usable Space with an 8 GB SD Card with an partition for Apps and Games. There is no Problem to get the System to use other Partitions for Apps and so on. So why it is not possible to put /data/apps to an external Drive on SD Card?
I don't know if some other Problems occure by this way but i think if it is possible to do it we will get as much space as a SD Card could give or not?
I love Desire HD Builds but i hate non stock Builds with new Apps witch i preffer to install by myselfe if i need them and with removal of serval apps like friendstream or something else. And the Squashfsed Filesystem makes it harder to fix missing apps or remove not used apps.
Sorry for my bad English. But i hope someone understand what i mean and could think about if its possible or not
Modinstalllocation let you install ANY application on your sd card. Problem resolved
Some roms are already storing the userdata.img om the SD card.
Then all user data/apps get saved to SD and the NAND is only for sysfiles.
Is this what you mean? If so, check the NAND section to look for these 'userdata.img' roms and try one.
Yes i saw a Desire Z Build with data.img on SD Card. So i only have to wait untill all other Builds like Desire HD are using this option? I think there are only two Desre HD Builds at the moment (Feather HD and Gauners Desire HD) and both dont use SD Card for Data. Gauner told me he is still abit in trouble with privat things and could not spend 24 hours for this Build. And the other Build is not what i want! Without so many nice Apps and Widgets i could use stock Froyo and thats it.
Maybe i just have to wait ... who knows.
>Prometheus< said:
Yes i saw a Desire Z Build with data.img on SD Card. So i only have to wait untill all other Builds like Desire HD are using this option? I think there are only two Desre HD Builds at the moment (Feather HD and Gauners Desire HD) and both dont use SD Card for Data. Gauner told me he is still abit in trouble with privat things and could not spend 24 hours for this Build. And the other Build is not what i want! Without so many nice Apps and Widgets i could use stock Froyo and thats it.
Maybe i just have to wait ... who knows.
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go back to nand section and take a closer look, you will find what you are looking for
OK..I've done everything, installed DFT Android ROM for HTC LEO etc...everything seems to be working fine, BUT..((
Most of the apps from Market or any other cannot be moved from Phone memory to SD card, thus consuming all phone memory very fast, and disabling me to install any more apps...and we all know that Android rules just because there are so many apps for it...
So, my question is: is there any possible way of making Android install apps to SD card, rather then phone memory? 'Cause this way, my 16Gig card isn't much of use on Android )
Please help, because there is no point in having Android on this device, if I can install only so many apps on phone memory...
Very thankful in advance....
Greeting from remote Bosnia ))
Which Rom are you using?
I am using Hyperdroid and it allows me to move apps to SD.
And they are working fine.
I'm using Desire ROM...from DFT 2.2 Froyo..
And this one also allows moving apps, but just some, not all.....
Could anyone be as kind as to point me to a ROM with Sense that allows moving all apps to SD card?
ddcww said:
I'm using Desire ROM...from DFT 2.2 Froyo..
And this one also allows moving apps, but just some, not all.....
Could anyone be as kind as to point me to a ROM with Sense that allows moving all apps to SD card?
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The best method would be to create an ext partition for your phone. ALL the apps that would normally installed on the phone will be moved onto this partition on your SDcard, saving you space. However, the trade off is speed. It will be slightly slower, but I don't think you'll even notice the speed difference day-to-day.
You can follow my guide here on how to make an ext partition without losing your data on your SDcard. It should only take like 5min to do. [HOW-TO] Make Ext4 from Recovery Without Losing FAT32 Data
well, there are some apps on the market that allows u to move all the installed apps in the internal memory to the storage card.
Try App 2SD Enabler. When you run the app, be sure to read the instructions.
If that doesnt work, Titanium Backup has a function in it that allows you to move any installed app u want from internal to storage memory (when u open the app, press Menu and then Batch. There should be an option somewhere there)
edit: keep in mind that some apps such as widgets, have to be on the internal memory to work properly. The Ext4 method is good if u want to increase the internal memory (by sacrifasing some storage memory), but you won't be able to connect your phone to the pc via Mass Storage. Plus, if it's the method with the 3 partitions(tbh i don't know if it's just for the 3partition method or any partition number), some of the storage card will be used from the OS as well, making the removal of the SD card impossible.
I would recommend App 2 SD. I use it to move all the apps it can to the SD card and it really does free up a lot of space.
Does Titanium Backup allow all apps to be moved too SD card? Just curious because Apps2SD doesnt move all apps to the SD card just some of them from my experience..
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The original DFT Desire ROM wasnt rooted correctly so use Z4Root from market then try using apps like Titanium and App2SD etc etc.
As an alternative, if you like sense but without all the bloat and lag try the rom in my signature, its a stripped down version oh DesireHD it flies like **** of stick and has all the best bits of sense
Try a different ROM
The DFT rom was also my first, but the internal memory filled up in no time and made it unusable for me.
In my experience, if you move an app to the SD card, some residual data goes onto the internal memory so you will find that you still use it up. As mentioned above, you will need to put certain apps and all widgets on the internal memory anyway.
I would go for a 'clean' rom that gives you plenty of free memory. You should then have no problem with it filling up. Titanium backup (free from market) is a good app, although Apps2SD (also free) is good as it lets you know how much space you have left.
I settled on the prj rom in my signature as it gives 180Mb free space from install and everything works as it is based on the DFT rom with minimal tweaks. There are plenty of clean roms out there, so try some out.
The best solution really for EU HD2's (512MB) is to use a rom that supports Data2SD as that actually extends your internal memory to the partition on SD card so you have say 1GB of internal memory, this is much better then any other current methods as its much more compatible with apps.
Also, dont mess about with Gpartid or other partition apps, You can use CWR to do it, just partition 1GB and then choose 0 for swap. (unless told otherwise by dev).
Thanks everyone, really...
I did this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=931126
Partitioned the card during setup and now I have 1Gig, which is OK..also the ROM is really stable and fast.... Try this, I'm quite happy, it works great and it is an upgraded version of DFT Desire ROM... Cheers!!!
Does any have a list of Desire HD Roms that will work on the EU HD2(512mb) without filling up the entire phone with the rom?
I have tried a couple & had no space left to install any apps.
Thanks
you need to make sure you use one that uses either data2ext or apps2sd
@home said:
Does any have a list of Desire HD Roms that will work on the EU HD2(512mb) without filling up the entire phone with the rom?
I have tried a couple & had no space left to install any apps.
Thanks
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You may have tried them but you obviously haven't read the topic correctly as majority (if not all) use either Apps2SD+/ext or Data2SD/ext so that all your user date is stored on SD or a partition on it.
Go back, and try them again but this time read the instructions and you will have a working DHD rom with plenty of space for apps.
I did try all that SD card partioning stuff & then installing the rom using Rom manager - Still no joy.
Thanks
Hi,
I did a quick search and couldn't find anything on the topic.
I was wondering for a while now, some applications (usually the bigger ones like Angry Birds) must be installed on NAND for it to work - given the HD2's limited onboard phone memory, I can't install very many of these at the same time - requiring me to move it to SD when I don't use it very often to save on space.
A bit of a pain really. I was just wondering if there's a fix for this issue? I'm using one of the older CyanogenMod7 builds if I recall correctly.
Cheers.
use a rom that uses app2sd+ (a2sd+ whatever, ) or data2sd, , one that uses an EXT partition on the sd card. the system will treat the EXT as internal memory and apps such as angry will work. If the EXT is already there when you install such a rom, you dont have to do anything, it will detect the EXT partition and use it, no interaction on your part needed.
Most roms are set up to use an EXT, go read your roms first post.
Right, that makes a whole lot of sense. Cheers!