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sorry for this question but i've just got this amazing phone but i've put some apps on the sd card and can't find the sd card on the phone ? even googled this but to no avail ! please help a newbie , thanks !

you mean the physical location of the SD Card? Its under the back cover. You need to remove the battery to get it out.
Also, apps are not stored on the SD card, but rather on the internal memory of the phone.

A couple of things. First you need to set up the phone for non market applications. This is done thru Menu>>settings>>applications and check the box that says Unknown Sources.
Next, if you use Astro or some other file manager, you can go to /sdcard and whatever folder you keep your apps in.
I use EOEAppsinstaller to do this. It searches the whole SD card to find any APK files. Works great.

QMAN101 said:
A couple of things. First you need to set up the phone for non market applications. This is done thru Menu>>settings>>applications and check the box that says Unknown Sources.
Next, if you use Astro or some other file manager, you can go to /sdcard and whatever folder you keep your apps in.
I use EOEAppsinstaller to do this. It searches the whole SD card to find any APK files. Works great.
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thanks i'll try that !
It wasn't the physical finding of the card its how to access it to install apk files and a movie I installed !

does this means i can put applications on sd card without rooting my n1

audino said:
does this means i can put applications on sd card without rooting my n1
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Yes and no. You can put apk's that you find on the net so you can put them on the SD card so you can install them but as for installing them so they run off the SD card that won't happen until you root the phone.

marra2 said:
thanks i'll try that !
It wasn't the physical finding of the card its how to access it to install apk files and a movie I installed !
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+1 for Astro File Manager! It also has a built in apk installer AND task killer. I love multitasking apps.

your movie should appear in the Gallery

twiggy114 said:
Yes and no. You can put apk's that you find on the net so you can put them on the SD card so you can install them but as for installing them so they run off the SD card that won't happen until you root the phone.
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ah oke im able to instal apps from sd card... i only have 162 free phone memory is this ok? i thought it comes with 512 memory and 512 ram?

audino said:
ah oke im able to instal apps from sd card... i only have 162 free phone memory is this ok? i thought
audino said:
ah oke im able to instal apps from sd card... i only have 162 free phone memory is this ok? i thought it comes with 512 memory and 512 ram?
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another yes and no. Due to a bug both RAM AND ROM are limited to ~230MB ...all are waiting for the next update.
Took me 10 mins to type this in landscape mode due to keyboard bugs!
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audino said:
ah oke im able to instal apps from sd card... i only have 162 free phone memory is this ok? i thought it comes with 512 memory and 512 ram?
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The 512MB Flash ROM is shared between the OS and your installed apps. The amount left over for your installed apps after the system reserves space for the OS, scratch, recovery, and update partitions is around 190MB or so. Google mentioned that they are working on allowing us to store installed apps on the SD card so the size of this partition should not matter eventually.
The 512MB RAM is not used for storing the apps, it is used for running them and is a different set of memory. In 2.1 there is a kernel limitation that prevents them from using all 512MB just yet, but the next version of the Android Linux kernel will remove that restriction and we should see another 100 to 150 MB of memory available for use. That improvement won't have any impact on how many apps you can install, just on how many apps you can run at the same time and how much work they can do before they elbow other apps out of the way.

flarbear said:
The 512MB Flash ROM is shared between the OS and your installed apps. The amount left over for your installed apps after the system reserves space for the OS, scratch, recovery, and update partitions is around 190MB or so. Google mentioned that they are working on allowing us to store installed apps on the SD card so the size of this partition should not matter eventually.
The 512MB RAM is not used for storing the apps, it is used for running them and is a different set of memory. In 2.1 there is a kernel limitation that prevents them from using all 512MB just yet, but the next version of the Android Linux kernel will remove that restriction and we should see another 100 to 150 MB of memory available for use. That improvement won't have any impact on how many apps you can install, just on how many apps you can run at the same time and how much work they can do before they elbow other apps out of the way.
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Sound cool if they really let us install on sd would be very nice and for me no more reasons to root my n1

audino said:
Sound cool if they really let us install on sd would be very nice and for me no more reasons to root my n1
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Even more importantly - there would be no more disincentive for developers to start creating more interesting media-rich applications.
As it stands now, if you put a 10MB app on the market very few are going to be willing to waste that much space on their phone to download it. So, you wouldn't make much money on it. So, you are likely not going to bother developing it.
With relaxed storage restrictions will come nicer (looking, at least) apps...

Spare Parts - updated for FroYo - Can move 80% of apps to SD

Found this baby in DeFrost 0.9 base rom.
Can move about 80% of apps to sd
Think its installable to any rom.
Not taking the credit, just passing around the joy.
Enjoy

So I understand, all it does is set the install location for you... nothing special, just saves you typing the pm setInstallLocation command!

Has anyone had any success with this? After configuring this to install to external memory and then installing google earth roughly the same amount of space is used on internal memory as compared to if it was installed fully in internal memory.
I realise some data will always be installed into internal memory but should it be close to 100% of the application size?
I've found the same issue with ScummVM too..

make sure that google earth did in fact get installed to sd-card. go under settings > Applications > Manager Applications > and the SD-Card tab and see if Google Earth is there. if its not, find it in the installed application tab and 'Move to SD Card'.
I've noticed that sometimes the app is still installed on the internal memory and needs to be moved to SD-card manually.

Does this only work if you are rooted? I tried it on my Desire and it didn't do anything? Stock 2.2, no root

Look here for not rooted devices
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=742379

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Look here for not rooted devices
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Cheers. I actually got to this thread from a post in that thread but it didn't state you needed root for this to work.
I will do the other way but it is fiddly as I don't want it to install all apps to SD so if this worked it would be easier to change the setting.
Ah well

I tried that and even moved between SD and internal memory a few times to see if it makes any difference. From what I can tell, if I install to SD ~16mb is used on internal memory for Google Earth and another ~4mb goes to the SD card. So there is a difference but its only small and a lot smaller than I would have expected.
How much memory is taken on your internal memory when you installed Google Earth?

Super thx !!

does this work on galaxy s rooted android 2.1 ?????????

Aqrab said:
does this work on galaxy s rooted android 2.1 ?????????
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No. FroYo a2sd only. This was for when we didn't have old a2sd on our FroYo roms, no point with an ext.
Sent from my HTC Desire

thegrantonstarcause said:
I tried that and even moved between SD and internal memory a few times to see if it makes any difference. From what I can tell, if I install to SD ~16mb is used on internal memory for Google Earth and another ~4mb goes to the SD card. So there is a difference but its only small and a lot smaller than I would have expected.
How much memory is taken on your internal memory when you installed Google Earth?
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Usually 25mb or something like that, w/ FroYo a2sd it was 16mb.
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My 2c
This installed succesfully to Froyo Huawei Ideos u8150 (Also known as a T-mobile Comet)

[Q] Installing apps to sd card

HI first id like to say thanks to all the people who develloped this software for my blackstone its given my old phone a wonderfull lease of life.
I am new to this whole scene so if my question seems a little stupid please let me know.
I have the 2.2 Froyo version installed (I think) and all is working wonderfully apart from the camera but i never use that anyway oh and the ability to change wall paper just reverts the wallpaper back to the origional. but again thats not a problem.
But i have a question. Is it possible to install my apps to my sd card ? i want to try a few apps ive downloaded but im running out of space on my internal memory i would like to install apps to run of my sd like in winmo is this possible?
Any help would be much appreciated
And again thanks for this wonderfull software
Richi

I haven't tried this so don't know if it works on our blackstones, but apparently with 2.2 you can now move installed apps to your SD Card if the app has been written to support that feature. Read more - http://www.androidtapp.com/android-...-sd-card-feature-in-android-2-2-requires-you/

any updates on this? i tried to use the provided solutions but i lost the access to mai blackstone sdcard....

there is this free app on the market. search app 2 SD.
this will show what apps that can be moved to SD card.

Hi sorry for the late reply ive been busy.
I tried App 2 SD and it told me which apps i can move to my sd card, this is good but when you actually try to move the apps it tells me operation failed.
Its not a big problem i just thought it may help in memory use to have apps installed on the memory card like windows mobile.

The data.img is only 256mb and all your app's are stored in that file..If you want to expand the data.img to have more app you either have to do it yourself or modify the rootfs

a link for you
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=824154

after you install an app go to application management,select the installed application and there will be a button called move to sd

[Q] HOW TO INSTALL ANDROID APPS TO MicroSD CARD, INSTEAD TO PHONE MEMORY?

OK..I've done everything, installed DFT Android ROM for HTC LEO etc...everything seems to be working fine, BUT..((
Most of the apps from Market or any other cannot be moved from Phone memory to SD card, thus consuming all phone memory very fast, and disabling me to install any more apps...and we all know that Android rules just because there are so many apps for it...
So, my question is: is there any possible way of making Android install apps to SD card, rather then phone memory? 'Cause this way, my 16Gig card isn't much of use on Android )
Please help, because there is no point in having Android on this device, if I can install only so many apps on phone memory...
Very thankful in advance....
Greeting from remote Bosnia ))

Which Rom are you using?
I am using Hyperdroid and it allows me to move apps to SD.
And they are working fine.

I'm using Desire ROM...from DFT 2.2 Froyo..
And this one also allows moving apps, but just some, not all.....
Could anyone be as kind as to point me to a ROM with Sense that allows moving all apps to SD card?

ddcww said:
I'm using Desire ROM...from DFT 2.2 Froyo..
And this one also allows moving apps, but just some, not all.....
Could anyone be as kind as to point me to a ROM with Sense that allows moving all apps to SD card?
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The best method would be to create an ext partition for your phone. ALL the apps that would normally installed on the phone will be moved onto this partition on your SDcard, saving you space. However, the trade off is speed. It will be slightly slower, but I don't think you'll even notice the speed difference day-to-day.
You can follow my guide here on how to make an ext partition without losing your data on your SDcard. It should only take like 5min to do. [HOW-TO] Make Ext4 from Recovery Without Losing FAT32 Data

well, there are some apps on the market that allows u to move all the installed apps in the internal memory to the storage card.
Try App 2SD Enabler. When you run the app, be sure to read the instructions.
If that doesnt work, Titanium Backup has a function in it that allows you to move any installed app u want from internal to storage memory (when u open the app, press Menu and then Batch. There should be an option somewhere there)
edit: keep in mind that some apps such as widgets, have to be on the internal memory to work properly. The Ext4 method is good if u want to increase the internal memory (by sacrifasing some storage memory), but you won't be able to connect your phone to the pc via Mass Storage. Plus, if it's the method with the 3 partitions(tbh i don't know if it's just for the 3partition method or any partition number), some of the storage card will be used from the OS as well, making the removal of the SD card impossible.

I would recommend App 2 SD. I use it to move all the apps it can to the SD card and it really does free up a lot of space.

Does Titanium Backup allow all apps to be moved too SD card? Just curious because Apps2SD doesnt move all apps to the SD card just some of them from my experience..
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The original DFT Desire ROM wasnt rooted correctly so use Z4Root from market then try using apps like Titanium and App2SD etc etc.
As an alternative, if you like sense but without all the bloat and lag try the rom in my signature, its a stripped down version oh DesireHD it flies like **** of stick and has all the best bits of sense

Try a different ROM
The DFT rom was also my first, but the internal memory filled up in no time and made it unusable for me.
In my experience, if you move an app to the SD card, some residual data goes onto the internal memory so you will find that you still use it up. As mentioned above, you will need to put certain apps and all widgets on the internal memory anyway.
I would go for a 'clean' rom that gives you plenty of free memory. You should then have no problem with it filling up. Titanium backup (free from market) is a good app, although Apps2SD (also free) is good as it lets you know how much space you have left.
I settled on the prj rom in my signature as it gives 180Mb free space from install and everything works as it is based on the DFT rom with minimal tweaks. There are plenty of clean roms out there, so try some out.

The best solution really for EU HD2's (512MB) is to use a rom that supports Data2SD as that actually extends your internal memory to the partition on SD card so you have say 1GB of internal memory, this is much better then any other current methods as its much more compatible with apps.
Also, dont mess about with Gpartid or other partition apps, You can use CWR to do it, just partition 1GB and then choose 0 for swap. (unless told otherwise by dev).

Thanks everyone, really...
I did this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=931126
Partitioned the card during setup and now I have 1Gig, which is OK..also the ROM is really stable and fast.... Try this, I'm quite happy, it works great and it is an upgraded version of DFT Desire ROM... Cheers!!!

what is daf(clean)

hi
i have tried several cwr roms but only one daf rom , the imilka desire z rom. the good thing about the rom was that i could copy the data file on my sd card which made me install all the basic built and applications on sd rather than in the internal memory. however i dont know but the rom was really buggy and slow. so i switched to cwr, an another desire z build . the problem with this rom is that the internal memory is now only 120 mb. not all applications are movable to sd card using app 2 sd and again the phone has become very slow
i looked around boyppc and wanted to try their desire hd rom. but it gives many option like cwr, cwr(clean) , daf and daf(clean)
please tell me what is with the (clean) thing
2) also let me know if i am using zip rom is there any way i can copy the data file on my sd card like that of daf so to make internal space more.
thanks in advance

A daf(clean) or CWR(clean) version mean that a lot of apps like, twitter, Facebook, flicker, etc... have been left off the Rom to improve System space. In addition certain wallpapers or ringtones and anything else that might be seen as an add on may be left off as well. Most of these apps/ wallpapers can still be downloaded from the market
As for your second question, I have a Tmous phone but I will usually install an EU version (if applies) of a Rom because it is usually set up with an SD-ext
Hope this helps!