...you need to see this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWKMGU9jstA
Should prove that Quadrant has nothing to do with real world performance, and just how fast this phone really is.
I guess I don't get what you are trying to show me here. He is comparing two different devices, running two different OS's. To support the title of your post you would have had to show me two Epic's, one with Froyo, one with Eclair. Also would have had to shown two Epic's, one with Froyo RFS and one with Froyo EXT4.
Irrelevant... both phones shown are not Epic.
Note: I don't care if the Nexus S is similar to the Galaxy S series, its not it, im sure there is a lot more under the hood they ain't talking about....
Sent from my Epic 4G powered by midNIGHT 2.5 w/ EXT4 ROM
bondosho said:
...you need to see this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWKMGU9jstA
Should prove that Quadrant has nothing to do with real world performance, and just how fast this phone really is.
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^^^ comparison fail!
Worthless video as it does not directly relate to the Epic 4G.
Fascinate = Keyboardless Epic right? Pretty much. Fascinate runs RFS, Nexus S has stock Android 2.3 and whatever it's file system is. Look at them, neck and neck with those few comparisons.
Anyway, I tried. Continue *****ing.
Also, he kills ALL of the background crap on the fascinate, and NOTHING on the Nexus S. The stock task killer on the the galaxy devices does not show like 99% of what is running in the background. You cant run ATK on one device and not the other.
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Also, he kills ALL of the background crap on the fascinate, and NOTHING on the Nexus S. The stock task killer on the the galaxy devices does not show like 99% of what is running in the background. You cant run ATK on one device and not the other.
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Yea this is exactly what I was thinking. I spent the whole video trying to figure out A) what this had to do with the epic and B) what it had to do with quadrant. Furthermore the only time the fascinate 'beat' the Nexus S was the Angry birds, with everything else I saw it load faster, mind you only marginally. Still as other have pointed out there is no Epic comparison so its rather irrelevant.
Finally, on the topic of Quadrant: if one runs Standard it provides no valuable information, just a visible 'epeen'. If one runs Advanced it offers a break down that can be used as a comparison tool.
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Yea this is exactly what I was thinking. I spent the whole video trying to figure out A) what this had to do with the epic and B) what it had to do with quadrant. Furthermore the only time the fascinate 'beat' the Nexus S was the Angry birds, with everything else I saw it load faster, mind you only marginally. Still as other have pointed out there is no Epic comparison so its rather irrelevant.
Finally, on the topic of Quadrant: if one runs Standard it provides no valuable information, just a visible 'epeen'. If one runs Advanced it offers a break down that can be used as a comparison tool.
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Don't forget also that the OP mentioned Froyo. Neither device is running froyo.
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Don't forget also that the OP mentioned Froyo. Neither device is running froyo.
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Very good point, thank you.
He said for those hating on rfs and not having froyo, implying that 2.1 with rfs isn't that bad...
Sent from my Epic 4g powered by EE Froyo, Emotionless Beast themed!
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He said for those hating on rfs and not having froyo, implying that 2.1 with rfs isn't that bad...
Sent from my Epic 4g powered by EE Froyo, Emotionless Beast themed!
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But he showed nothing about Froyo, rfs, ext4, or the Epic 4G at all. Its like saying for those tired of people complaining about people complaining about froyo: http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/06/lg-optimus-black-hands-on/
I think what the OP is trying to show is that the Epic with 2.1 Eclair and RFS is almost exactly the same as 2.3 Gingerbread which uses Ext4 so how much difference is Froyo going to make (other than getting flash)
This has already been compared to the Epic. They got a vid where our epic killed the Nexus S.... Well not necessarily killed but http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFAYWyVcj0Q&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Nice video diego1985
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I think what the OP is trying to show is that the Epic with 2.1 Eclair and RFS is almost exactly the same as 2.3 Gingerbread which uses Ext4 so how much difference is Froyo going to make (other than getting flash)
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Actually it uses a combination of ext 4 and yffrs (i think that's what it's called.
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I don't give a rat's ass about flash, but Froyo does fix GPS for me (and yes, my problem was more than the hardcoded 30m value). On the other hand, Samsung managed to fuq up the acceloremeter, at least in dk28 build. Just download sensor debug and you'll see what I mean.
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I think what the OP is trying to show is that the Epic with 2.1 Eclair and RFS is almost exactly the same as 2.3 Gingerbread which uses Ext4 so how much difference is Froyo going to make (other than getting flash)
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And as with Angry Birds loading, RFS was faster.
Oh, and thanks for "getting" what I was saying .
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Oh yeah I almost forgot, without Froyo, Skype does not work on Galaxy S devices. Skype would be nice.
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Oh yeah I almost forgot, without Froyo, Skype does not work on Galaxy S devices. Skype would be nice.
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Skype BARELY functions IMO. I was excited to try it once I had Froyo on my device, but was quickly disappointed. Hopefully they'll be able to get video chatting up and running so I can finally use my front facing camera. There are so many family members I could talk to on Skype that have webcams but no phones with cams.
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Well the last craze to get updated to Froyo seems as though it may end up being short lived as I came across this today: http://www.androidcodex.com/gingerb...edium=rss&utm_camp aign=gingerbread-is-coming
2 months for a GB release, then we wait for root (which might be very quick) and/or wait for HTC to Sense-ify GB, then we get it on the Evo. Froyo's got a few months left in it - about as long as Eclair had on the Evo.
Or maybe it will live up to the hype and HTC will leave it alone and just push it without a new UI.
Personally, I can't wait for 3.0. I'm really hoping it comes a lot closer to being as nice looking and easy to use as iOS. I came from an iPhone and loved it, but I love Android a little bit more; I don't know why I like it more, but I do, however, the apps are really ****ty when compared to iOS and the UI is pretty rough in some areas - sense or aosp.
Google really needs to step it up and hire some graphic designers that can't code at all.
Whoot Whoot !!!
bring it on Google
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that's pretty cool. I wonder where they got their sources from though? I really would like to see what kind of UI google puts on gingerbread though. And of course, whether or not motorola/HTC/samsung will still blur/sense/touchwiz it...
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2 months for a GB release, then we wait for root (which might be very quick) and/or wait for HTC to Sense-ify GB, then we get it on the Evo. Froyo's got a few months left in it - about as long as Eclair had on the Evo.
Or maybe it will live up to the hype and HTC will leave it alone and just push it without a new UI.
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I read from a few places that Gingerbread would do away with 3rd party UI's like Sense. It would have to be pretty fricken sweet to get me away from Froyo Sense. I mean, how much faster could it get?
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that's pretty cool. I wonder where they got their sources from though? I really would like to see what kind of UI google puts on gingerbread though. And of course, whether or not motorola/HTC/samsung will still blur/sense/touchwiz it...
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Moto said blur was pretty much dead -as far as new updates goes- on all of their higher end phones, today.
Where is the source on this article?
very cool, maybe ill finally upgrade from the original htc 2.1 rom to GB when it comes out!
Dang it...I saw no mention of "smoother UI experience". The only thing that really bothers me is how choppy the interface is despite a 1Ghz CPU.
h3nG said:
Dang it...I saw no mention of "smoother UI experience". The only thing that really bothers me is how choppy the interface is despite a 1Ghz CPU.
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More than 30fps will never be part of the evo, htc has said many times that its a HARDWARE limitation, they lied for a reason. To cover their ass. I dont see them exposing their own lie, ever.
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Where is the source on this article?
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This ^
...Next we'll be seeing threads about how Gingerbread will be released on Monday...
Sounds interesting... can't wait.
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Who says HTC Evo 4g will even get Gingerbread?
dglowe343 said:
I read from a few places that Gingerbread would do away with 3rd party UI's like Sense. It would have to be pretty fricken sweet to get me away from Froyo Sense. I mean, how much faster could it get?
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I think the statement was that Google was aiming for UI that was nice enough to DISCOURAGE manufacturers from layering their own environment over the top, which would hopefully save resources.
But read this.
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Who says HTC Evo 4g will even get Gingerbread?
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Even if we don't get it from HTC (unlikely) with the dev's we have, I'm sure the evo will run gingerbread one way or another... if the g1 can run froyo... anything can happen
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I think the statement was that Google was aiming for UI that was nice enough to DISCOURAGE manufacturers from layering their own environment over the top, which would hopefully save resources.
But read this.
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Hope that's true. I'd hate to see it done away with.
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I think the statement was that Google was aiming for UI that was nice enough to DISCOURAGE manufacturers from layering their own environment over the top, which would hopefully save resources.
But read this.
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I did read somewhere that sense was getting an "upgrade" sometime next year. Dont remember where i read this but i remember reading it for sure. I assume this will be for GB.
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Who says HTC Evo 4g will even get Gingerbread?
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Some dev with port it if anything... I don't see why we wouldn't get it. The phone meets the specs and I don't see them abandoning the EVO so quickly.
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This reminds me of all the sourceless articles about Verizon's iPhone launch this January.
So, those early Froyo adopters: Does the Froyo update for Vibrant fix the lag issues? I ask because I have the choice of the MT4G, which is incredibly lag-free, and if Froyo doesn't fix the lag issues, I may just jump ship.
Yes, I know there are many "lag fixes" out there; but lag fixes don't make the phone completely lag free like it should be.
No version of android can fix this lag. It has nothing to do with android...
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I never said it had to do with Android. I figured Samsung may have made optimizations/fixes in the Froyo update; I guess not.
N8ter is a troll in the truest sense.
When did we get FroYo? The roms in the dev section don't count.
By early adopters I meant the people who flashed the leaked Froyo.
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By early adopters I meant the people who flashed the leaked Froyo.
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The leak is laggy, it's not finished.
/thread
That isn't very encouraging now is it.
I can't believe people are still putting mt4g in the same sentence as any galaxy s phone.
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That isn't very encouraging now is it.
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Did you miss the point I tried to make?
It's a LEAK and not an OFFICIAL update.
It's LAGGY in the sense that the launcher is very choppy among other things compared to JI6 but performance is better when installing applications.
It's a LEAK and not an OFFICIAL update.
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I can't believe people are still putting mt4g in the same sentence as any galaxy s phone.
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And they shouldn't why?
heygrl said:
Did you miss the point I tried to make?
It's a LEAK and not an OFFICIAL update.
It's LAGGY in the sense that the launcher is very choppy among other things compared to JI6 but performance is better when installing applications.
It's a LEAK and not an OFFICIAL update.
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My bad -- a laggy leak is very encouraging .
I have been using Eugene's macnut r10 for a little while now without any problems or lag. It works very well.
Wow I can't believe how much people are putting down this phone and the devs who work on it.
First of all I believe froyo does help and even erases the lag on the vibrant I'm running obsidian and its totally lag free with no lag fix in it.
I was also running the froyo build that eugene posted (stock froyo) and that 2 was lag free.
Even though we don't have official froyo yet we will and this phone is way better than a lot of other phone on the market right now and I believe the best t mobile phone..
N yes I've played around with the mt4g its cool but not for certain people. Its too heavy and bulky for me. Not as sleek and stylish as the vibrant.
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And they shouldn't why?
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Because the MT4G is a superior phone in almost every possible way.
Obsidian v2 and Onyx from TW are definitely lag free. Can honestly say feel better than stock with a lag fix. RFS or not, definitely no lag. Just flash a custom Rom and your set.
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There is lag and lots of it on the tw froyo roms. Bionix fusion 1.2 eclair is still the better choice for me.
onyx and obsidian V2.2 are lag free, after you remove the bloatware.
onyx and obsidian V3 are smoother than fusion 1.2.
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Because the MT4G is a superior phone in almost every possible way.
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Sure it is, if that's what you need to tell yourself. Truth says otherwise. The MT4G is an overhyped ugly little phone.
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Sure it is, if that's what you need to tell yourself. Truth says otherwise. The MT4G is an overhyped ugly little phone.
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The problem with comparing phones is everyone wants to make their phone sound the best. Truth be told, both Vibrant and MT4G have their particular advantages -- one isn't simply better than the other in everything.
So true.
These phones are for different people. You really can't compare the 2.
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The problem with comparing phones is everyone wants to make their phone sound the best. Truth be told, both Vibrant and MT4G have their particular advantages -- one isn't simply better than the other in everything.
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Best thing about the nexus S is the screen time out animation & the 3D app drawer other than that macnutR14 is killing nexus s
vibrant rooted
macnutR14
super io kernel+OCLF
QS 2018
2.2 froyo
Okay?
And we already have drawer on launchers like adw launchrpro zemo or something
And direct Google support. Dungeon Defenders runs a little smoother on it than my Vibrant with the same specs. They are really similar though.
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Once we get a ROM that has our galaxy s in mind ours can kick its ass.
We have the best processor a phone can have currently. But no rom to use its full potential.
The nexus one with its snapdragon, I think, its performing better than us because ginger bread is designed for snapdragon.
xriderx66 said:
Once we get a ROM that has our galaxy s in mind ours can kick its ass.
We have the best processor a phone can have currently. But no rom to use its full potential.
The nexus one with its snapdragon, I think, its performing better than us because ginger bread is designed for snapdragon.
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lol!!!!!!!
xriderx66 said:
Once we get a ROM that has our galaxy s in mind ours can kick its ass.
We have the best processor a phone can have currently. But no rom to use its full potential.
The nexus one with its snapdragon, I think, its performing better than us because ginger bread is designed for snapdragon.
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Let me slap you to your senses - we are talking about Nexus S not Nexus One
xriderx66 said:
Once we get a ROM that has our galaxy s in mind ours can kick its ass.
We have the best processor a phone can have currently. But no rom to use its full potential.
The nexus one with its snapdragon, I think, its performing better than us because ginger bread is designed for snapdragon.
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There's already several great roms in the dev section designed for Vibrants. Eugene's R14 final is the fastest, smoothest, most stable rom I ever had my Vibrant on and it's still running it. I never tried Nero but from the overwhelming amount of posts I assume it's also a great choice.
Also as someone pointed out we are talking about the S not the One, and Nexus One doesn't have gingerbread yet, only the S. Currently there are no snapdragon phones running an official gingerbread rom.
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There's already several great roms in the dev section designed for Vibrants. Eugene's R14 final is the fastest, smoothest, most stable rom I ever had my Vibrant on and it's still running it. I never tried Nero but from the overwhelming amount of posts I assume it's also a great choice.
Also as someone pointed out we are talking about the S not the One, and Nexus One doesn't have gingerbread yet, only the S. Currently there are no snapdragon phones running an official gingerbread rom.
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There are stable roms. I know that.
I run ginger clone, but NONE of them are using the processors full potential.
Notice how the nexus s runs better than us? Samsung DESIGNED that phone for ext4 and other stuff.
Yeah I'm sorry I was thinking about a, nexus one when I wrote that so I also said snapdragon.
I'm just saying when google made the phone they also MADE gingerbread for it.
We have a bunch of custom roms that come from a leaked rom.
their stable fast look good, but they aren't making our phones use the while processor, I'm not taking about overclocking.
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There are stable roms. I know that.
I run ginger clone, but NONE of them are using the processors full potential.
Notice how the nexus s runs better than us? Samsung DESIGNED that phone for ext4 and other stuff.
Yeah I'm sorry I was thinking about a, nexus one when I wrote that so I also said snapdragon.
I'm just saying when google made the phone they also MADE gingerbread for it.
We have a bunch of custom roms that come from a leaked rom.
their stable fast look good, but they aren't making our phones use the while processor, I'm not taking about overclocking.
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The new voodoo kernels basically bring us up to speed with the nexus s, as far as ext4 is concerned. Have you even played with a Nexus S? I did out of the box and compared to a fresh Nero install with supercurios kernel, they are equally as fast from the few tests I ran.
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The new voodoo kernels basically bring us up to speed with the nexus s, as far as ext4 is concerned. Have you even played with a Nexus S? I did out of the box and compared to a fresh Nero install with supercurios kernel, they are equally as fast from the few tests I ran.
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I agree. Nero v3, for example, is very snappy.
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The new voodoo kernels basically bring us up to speed with the nexus s, as far as ext4 is concerned. Have you even played with a Nexus S? I did out of the box and compared to a fresh Nero install with supercurios kernel, they are equally as fast from the few tests I ran.
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I agree. Nero v3, for example, is very snappy.
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Love Nero v3, but the Nexus S is faster. It's more polished and complete. The Vibrant with Nero is like the super sexy girl next door. The Nexus S is like the super sexy girl driving a Porsche with a short skirt and a loooong jacket.
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Love Nero v3, but the Nexus S is faster. It's more polished and complete. The Vibrant with Nero is like the super sexy girl next door. The Nexus S is like the super sexy girl driving a Porsche with a short skirt and a loooong jacket.
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I disagree the nexus s running side by side with my vibrant in best buy loaded web pages slower. About the only thing it does better is turn off. Thats with me running nero v3+voodoo with adw launcher ex.
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ScooterG said:
Love Nero v3, but the Nexus S is faster. It's more polished and complete. The Vibrant with Nero is like the super sexy girl next door. The Nexus S is like the super sexy girl driving a Porsche with a short skirt and a loooong jacket.
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LOL, nice song reference.
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She doesn't have a T-Mobile tramp stamp either.
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She doesn't have a T-Mobile tramp stamp either.
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Lol cute..
Just a question since a friend of mine has an evo and bragging saying they'll have gb before us vibrant owners. Doesn't 2.3 require certain specs? Is the snapdragon capable of running it? This may be off topic but im just curious. I know the vibrant can run gb being that its so similar to the nexus s.
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Lol cute..
Just a question since a friend of mine has an evo and bragging saying they'll have gb before us vibrant owners. Doesn't 2.3 require certain specs? Is the snapdragon capable of running it? This may be off topic but im just curious. I know the vibrant can run gb being that its so similar to the nexus s.
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As google has promised GB to the Nexus One I would say yes. Gingerbread can very easily be run on Snapdragon processors. Google has not come out with any specific requirements. Froyo is running on G1 with the help of the CM team.
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As google has promised GB to the Nexus One I would say yes. Gingerbread can very easily be run on Snapdragon processors. Google has not come out with any specific requirements. Froyo is running on G1 with the help of the CM team.
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Okay that's feasible.. I just imagined it would run smoother on nexus s /vibrant processors along with the ext4 file system
ScooterG said:
Love Nero v3, but the Nexus S is faster. It's more polished and complete. The Vibrant with Nero is like the super sexy girl next door. The Nexus S is like the super sexy girl driving a Porsche with a short skirt and a loooong jacket.
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By the colors:
Not THAT much faster...
I kinda like 'em with a bit less polish.
She's got MY vote!
Expensive, high maintenance, and fewer features than the 1 next door.
Oh wait... You were talkin' about phones, huh? My bad.
I gave my vibrant to my gf and picked up a nexus s. From my experience the NS is significantly faster out of the box than my vibrant was running Nero 3 with voodoo. I've had the NS for 2 days now and the only gripe I have is the weak wifi issue. Would I recommend the NS to someone that already has a Vibrant? Short answer.....No. Wait for dual core.
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They may get the update the gingerbread first, but they'll never be able to run a game like dungeon defenders like we can.
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http://www.androidcentral.com/evo-4g-gingerbread-update-may-be-coming-june-6
Actually... June 3rd if you manually update.
Woot!
Sorry wrong forum... Look the same on the tab in the app... Got click happy. Sure it applies to most people here tho.
This might hold many over instead of going to get the NS! lol
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archtech3d said:
http://m.androidcentral.com/evo-4g-gingerbead-update-may-be-coming-june-6
Woot!
Sorry wrong forum... Look the same on the tab in the app... Got click happy. Sure it applies to most people here tho.
This might hold many over instead of going to get the NS! lol
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Link is bad, plus most of us have been using GB on our EVO's for months now so who cares!
[email protected] said:
Link is bad, plus most of us have been using GB on our EVO's for months now so who cares!
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And some of us have unrooted in preparation for trading our evo's.
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I care because I have a novatek screen. I'm sure you're familiar with the brightness bugs that plagues the Sense GB ROMs.
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I care because I have a novatek screen. I'm sure you're familiar with the brightness bugs that plagues the Sense GB ROMs.
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Same here, and cm7 drains may battery, no matter what kernel I use.
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[email protected] said:
Link is bad, plus most of us have been using GB on our EVO's for months now so who cares!
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Fixed the link. Many care about his... gonna fix many issues with the leaked version, including the brightness for some screens. A bit of fun before switching to the 3D.
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I care because I have a novatek screen. I'm sure you're familiar with the brightness bugs that plagues the Sense GB ROMs.
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GB with Sense 1.0 is going to feel exactly like Froyo with Sense 1.0 so what exactly is there to get excited about?
When my friends ask what is different with the EVO 3d to the EVO I don't even mention GB as there really is nothing different. It is more comparable to what a service pack is for Windows then an actual OS update. So you get some green color on top and an off animation.....
GB should have been just another number added to Froyo.
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GB with Sense 1.0 is going to feel exactly like Froyo with Sense 1.0 so what exactly is there to get excited about?
When my friends ask what is different with the EVO 3d to the EVO I don't even mention GB as there really is nothing different. It is more comparable to what a service pack is for Windows then an actual OS update. So you get some green color on top and an off animation.....
GB should have been just another number added to Froyo.
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If I agreed with you any more than I do now, then we'd be the same person.
I never understood the obsession with GB... I saw literally NO CHANGE when CM7 made the jump... Nor did I see a difference between 2.3.2 .3 or .4
The only reason I want the 3D is for the dual cameras and other upgraded hardware. I am hoping that someone can make use of the cameras for something magical... like sensing depth, or doing instant HDR photos... things of that nature. Maybe even building 3D models, like with a Kinect.
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GB with Sense 1.0 is going to feel exactly like Froyo with Sense 1.0 so what exactly is there to get excited about?
When my friends ask what is different with the EVO 3d to the EVO I don't even mention GB as there really is nothing different. It is more comparable to what a service pack is for Windows then an actual OS update. So you get some green color on top and an off animation.....
GB should have been just another number added to Froyo.
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I'm not sure why you are being such a hater. Nonetheless, This will allow me to use some of the other ports that are floating around such as Virus's Sense 3.0 and Miks GB Sense 2.1, etc. In addition, there are a few apps that I run that do not restore successfully from GB to Froyo thus, if I want to keep my data for said apps than I need to run them on a GB ROM. I see your point though, we should just be anti-updates unless they include huge ground-breaking changes... I'm sure Google isn't rolling out updates for ****s and giggles, so why not take advantage of some of the improvements that have been made. They may not be cosmetic, but GB is still an improvement over Froyo.
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I'm not sure why you are being such a hater. Nonetheless, This will allow me to use some of the other ports that are floating around such as Virus's Sense 3.0 and Miks GB Sense 2.1, etc. In addition, there are a few apps that I run that do not restore successfully from GB to Froyo thus, if I want to keep my data for said apps than I need to run them on a GB ROM. I see your point though, we should just be anti-updates unless they include huge ground-breaking changes... I'm sure Google isn't rolling out updates for ****s and giggles, so why not take advantage of some of the improvements that have been made. They may not be cosmetic, but GB is still an improvement over Froyo.
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I am all for updates but I just don't get the excitement over this one, that's all. Like I said before, Gingerbread just feels like a service pack release.
If HTC maybe threw Sense 2.0 on it, then it might have felt like something changed at least.
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Now with the ota gingerbread, it will also be easier to squeeze in sense 3.0 or whatever. I have the screen from hell and can't run these newer ports because there is no way in hell to go all day with out charging.
Although I do love me some cm7.
mlin said:
I care because I have a novatek screen. I'm sure you're familiar with the brightness bugs that plagues the Sense GB ROMs.
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[email protected] said:
Link is bad, plus most of us have been using GB on our EVO's for months now so who cares!
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I care as well. Guess your just a uncaring person. In preparation for my EVO 3D I may just unroot my EVO.
zone23 said:
I care as well. Guess your just a uncaring person. In preparation for my EVO 3D I may just unroot my EVO.
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Maybe?
Anyway, are you unrooting because you are trading in your EVO to a store? I was trying to see if anyone knew if we needed to do that or if we can just put a stock Rom on and leave it rooted.
According to Phandroid.com, the Fascinate on Verizon is getting the Gingerbread Update!
http://phandroid.com/2011/12/01/samsung-fascinate-gingerbread-update-ready-to-roll/
Now T-mobile and Samsung, I have to ask, where is the Vibrant's update?
Galaxy S internatinoal got gingerbread.
Galaxy S 4G got gingerbread.
Captivate has gingerbread leaks.
Fascinate is getting gingerbread.
Vibrant Canada I think got gingerbread also.
So where is the T-mobile Vibrant Gingerbread????????????????????????
Might be more power full if posted in samsung website forum.
yea, post that there. Ive given up on GB anyway, custom roms are better anyway
Accept that it's not coming and 2.2 is the terminal firmware for the Vibrant. You can thank the T-959v for that.
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WhiteBoyAwesome said:
yea, post that there. Ive given up on GB anyway, custom roms are better anyway
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Imagine how better they'd be with Gingerbread source.
Eh doesnt matter anymore. We got devs doing ics, in a week or two more it'll run flawlessly.
wait.. correct me if i'm wrong but isn't the fascinate the same hardware minus the modem (cdma)? if this is the case devs could just as easily rip all the files needed to complete our driver issues on GB. if not oh well.
I believe there is something different with the GPS drivers on the Vibrant, which is why we have so many great ROMs without very good GPS.
Seriously? Another rant about gb for the vibrant? Just flash an i9000 port, and stop complaining. Or get another phone. There are early builds of ics popping up already. the vibrant was one of the first to get an ics build actually....
You disappeared after i showed you battery life on simply honey v6 beta....hahaha...where'd you go buddy?
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Why do you want GB now, when it's a year late? They should release ICS rather than GB. ICS is awesome on the vibrant btw
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Seriously? Another rant about gb for the vibrant? Just flash an i9000 port, and stop complaining. Or get another phone. There are early builds of ics popping up already. the vibrant was one of the first to get an ics build actually....
You disappeared after i showed you battery life on simply honey v6 beta....hahaha...where'd you go buddy?
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I9000 ports are good, but I need gps daily. If Im not mistaken the only GB kernel that has GPS is about 6 months old. We get an up to date GB kernel with working gps and more will flood the I9000 ROM section.
you guys are stupid for even thinking we'll get a update, if we do im sorry and i will cut my dogs ear off.
P.S. get your ass on ICS.
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I9000 ports are good, but I need gps daily. If Im not mistaken the only GB kernel that has GPS is about 6 months old. We get an up to date GB kernel with working gps and more will flood the I9000 ROM section.
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I understand the need for GPS, but it's really a hit or miss with vibrants. I'll pretty sure i got the first run of units, so gps never really worked well for me, no matter what ROM I'm on.
Granted, if i use the gb bullet kernel, i can get a lock and even navigation, but it takes a while. I just use maps to give me directions, then follow them. Simple solution to a simple problem.
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I understand the need for GPS, but it's really a hit or miss with vibrants. I'll pretty sure i got the first run of units, so gps never really worked well for me, no matter what ROM I'm on.
Granted, if i use the gb bullet kernel, i can get a lock and even navigation, but it takes a while. I just use maps to give me directions, then follow them. Simple solution to a simple problem.
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I would agree. I also got one of the first batches of Vibs. I did the hardware fix and things got much better for me. Give it a look if you haven't tried it. May help.
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Note - my wife and I both got Vibs together. Mine has the hardware fix and hers does not. Mine locks A LOT faster than hers. She is on a 2.2 ROM and Im on Miui as well.
Moped_Ryder said:
I would agree. I also got one of the first batches of Vibs. I did the hardware fix and things got much better for me. Give it a look if you haven't tried it. May help.
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Note - my wife and I both got Vibs together. Mine has the hardware fix and hers does not. Mine locks A LOT faster than hers. She is on a 2.2 ROM and Im on Miui as well.
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I tried the hardware fix myself, but only by bending the contact up. What exactly did you do to apply the hardware fix?
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MIUI-NB edition has a working gps, no need for hardware fix. but go for an older release for more stability
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you guys are stupid for even thinking we'll get a update, if we do im sorry and i will cut my dogs ear off.
P.S. get your ass on ICS.
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Yep, I'm getting on iOS in January when I switch carriers...
Oh, you said ICS... My bad...
Sorry, ICS = Different look, same nastiness. UI Latency, Adware galore, inconsistent UI across apps, poor market policing, etc.
I'm to the point where I just want something that works. Android is starting to feel like WIndows Me to me now...
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Yep, I'm getting on iOS in January when I switch carriers...
Oh, you said ICS... My bad...
Sorry, ICS = Different look, same nastiness. UI Latency, Adware galore, inconsistent UI across apps, poor market policing, etc.
I'm to the point where I just want something that works. Android is starting to feel like WIndows Me to me now...
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Everyone has a choice. Thats why I love Android and iOS. Both have their pros and cons. I am NOT a fanboy. I can point out both advantages for both platforms, and both have disadvantages.
I'm just glad this wasn't like 5 years ago where the only choice for a smartphone = iPhone. I did own a iPhone 3GS, jailbroke it, found nothing interesting to jailbreak except to pirate apps... which i pointless to me. I prefer android, it gives me a change. But again, opinions are opinions.
Tmoble already has the sgs 2 and the sgs 4g. Not to mention that the vibrant was discontinued months ago there's honestly no point in a business point of view updating a phone there not making any money on
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And this is why we need source direct from samsung
CM DROPS VIBRANT SUPPORT DUE TO 911 INABILITY:
"We are no longer supporting the Vibrant due to the inability to dial 911. We consider the issues related to this unresolvable without source code from Samsung related to the Radio interface layer and its interactions with the Audio layers and have taken the decision to no longer support this. We apologize for the inconvenience and strongly suggest that Vibrant users use a Samsung ROM due to the 911 issues with any ROMs based on open source code."
http://phandroid.com/2011/12/12/cya...le-galaxy-s-support-dropped-due-to-911-issue/
Now do you see why it is so important to have put pressure on Samsung/T-Mobile to release an update to Gingerbread? This is why! Developers are talented but they can't work miracles. We need source/drivers for proper 911 and GPS capabilities just to name a few.