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2.2 With SenseUI Aug 3!!

"Google" The EVO Update As I'm Not Allowed to post links.. BOO.
The EVO gets 2.2 presumably with the SenseUI on August 3rd.. When this is released is there any chance that we will see this flavor of custom rom for our Hero devices?! Hopefully Darch and the other XDA experts wont let us go without.. We can ONLY HOPE!! Hint, Hint, Nudge, Nudge.. Surprised there isn't a leak already.. Or is there!?

There is, i am running full 2.2 100% working on my Evo, and HTC also posted the update.zip on their website, but Devs from the Evo have had sense working for awhile now, but it still hasn't been ported over because of the huge differences in frameworks

I really wish I knew what people liked about SenseUI. It just seems so bulky and slow to me.

darchstar told me many times tonight there will be no 2.2 sense port for the hero. (from the evo) the arch is different

Nfinitefx45 will be working on porting 2.2 sense here soon
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Thanks for the info!
I flipped through the EVO dev forum (reluctantly) and saw that they are already up and running on the latest froyo build which is awesome! I'm glad to see that all hope is not lost and that there will be some development for 2.2 with sense. To answer Zardos66 I personally like the facebook contact linking and the look of the UI. It has nothing to do with performance and everything to do with functionality and usefulness. The SenseUI is a bit clunky but I haven't found a happy medium with any of the roms that don't have the SenseUI. Just something I'd like to see and If it can be done I trust that the XDA Pros will knock it out of the park.. I'm very excited to see what can be made of this!! XDA FTW!

Zardos66 said:
I really wish I knew what people liked about SenseUI. It just seems so bulky and slow to me.
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I thinks it mainly the widgets. other then that idk.
Im running senses, i've tried an aosp rom, it just didn't feel right, i guess i got used to sense.
But will install cm6 when darch gets into the RCs.

eltrutgnik said:
I thinks it mainly the widgets. other then that idk.
Im running senses, i've tried an aosp rom, it just didn't feel right, i guess i got used to sense.
But will install cm6 when darch gets into the RCs.
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Even with OC, Sense still lags. It's is easy to mimic with less ram taken up.
Launcher pro
2x4 people widget - free
Messaging Widgets - free
Weather and toggle widgets - $1.99
feels good man.

Supposedly we can't port the EVO 2.2 release over to the Hero because the EVO build is designed for a much faster processor. Our Hero couldn't handle such a port without A LOT of tweaking....in other words, almost impossible.
Whenever the HTC Legend gets their 2.2 release, that is probably the build that the devs here will try to port over for us. A couple people have already committed to doing this.

eltrutgnik said:
I thinks it mainly the widgets. other then that idk.
Im running senses, i've tried an aosp rom, it just didn't feel right, i guess i got used to sense.
But will install cm6 when darch gets into the RCs.
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Darch released RC0 a few builds ago, i am currently running Not my dog too build and all is pretty well. Camera app is still pretty much useless but Camera Magic is a quick fix. The gallery is pretty messed up with auto rotate and such, but aside from pictures it is a MAJOR improvement over eclair. My Hero runs like a champ!

does it change anything that the desire got a sense 2.2 today also?
http://goo.gl/fb/Z0kfj
I'm not familiar with the desire to know if it would work... hopefully it's closer to ours.

surrealbliss said:
does it change anything that the desire got a sense 2.2 today also?
http://goo.gl/fb/Z0kfj
I'm not familiar with the desire to know if it would work... hopefully it's closer to ours.
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no still built on the snap dragon processor and is HDPI (high res) this is why we are waitng on the legend , it is the cousin to the hero in terms of processor and the fact that it is our exact resolution MDPI (medium). the legend is supposed to be on froyo within the next two months.

nfinitefx45 said:
the legend is supposed to be on froyo within the next two months.
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If it is gonna be anything like eclair release, I'm not holding my breath till around christmas, which is when the next major version of Android is supposed to be released. I bet by that time Sprint drops all support for their 6 month old Evo like they did with out Heroes, too!

Sigh I want froyo with sense.
(Sprint: "What's the evo? Oh that ole thing )

thatguythatdid said:
Sigh I want froyo with sense.
(Sprint: "What's the evo? Oh that ole thing )
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the bottom line is the hero should of got the 2.2 update. sprint isn't doing a good job of supporting their phones at all. i owned the evo for a week and while i liked the speed & size the pitfall was the battery life. none of the tweaks worked and you had to disable every feature of the phone.

The nexus one looks so good. Still. So much support for it. Being googles baby it will probably get gingerbread. Just saying almost a year old and still one of the best phones. ("Did I get ripped off?" I sometimes wonder)

i just heard droid users are getting froyo today. this is a bunch of bull**** and im pissed at htc. i should of kept my evo. talk about dropping the ball with the hero!

There will be no port from the Ego since there's wayy to much things to change its almost impossible, but our hope of 2.2 is from the legend!
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Jsos said:
There will be no port from the Ego since there's wayy to much things to change its almost impossible, but our hope of 2.2 is from the legend!
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i hope so because im not digging the aosp stuff. id like a sense port so i can get the htc goodies.

Froyo's out Gingerbread is in

Well the last craze to get updated to Froyo seems as though it may end up being short lived as I came across this today: http://www.androidcodex.com/gingerb...edium=rss&utm_camp aign=gingerbread-is-coming

2 months for a GB release, then we wait for root (which might be very quick) and/or wait for HTC to Sense-ify GB, then we get it on the Evo. Froyo's got a few months left in it - about as long as Eclair had on the Evo.
Or maybe it will live up to the hype and HTC will leave it alone and just push it without a new UI.

Personally, I can't wait for 3.0. I'm really hoping it comes a lot closer to being as nice looking and easy to use as iOS. I came from an iPhone and loved it, but I love Android a little bit more; I don't know why I like it more, but I do, however, the apps are really ****ty when compared to iOS and the UI is pretty rough in some areas - sense or aosp.
Google really needs to step it up and hire some graphic designers that can't code at all.

Whoot Whoot !!!
bring it on Google
Sent from my HTC Evo

that's pretty cool. I wonder where they got their sources from though? I really would like to see what kind of UI google puts on gingerbread though. And of course, whether or not motorola/HTC/samsung will still blur/sense/touchwiz it...

SilverZero said:
2 months for a GB release, then we wait for root (which might be very quick) and/or wait for HTC to Sense-ify GB, then we get it on the Evo. Froyo's got a few months left in it - about as long as Eclair had on the Evo.
Or maybe it will live up to the hype and HTC will leave it alone and just push it without a new UI.
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I read from a few places that Gingerbread would do away with 3rd party UI's like Sense. It would have to be pretty fricken sweet to get me away from Froyo Sense. I mean, how much faster could it get?

lee.n.doan said:
that's pretty cool. I wonder where they got their sources from though? I really would like to see what kind of UI google puts on gingerbread though. And of course, whether or not motorola/HTC/samsung will still blur/sense/touchwiz it...
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Moto said blur was pretty much dead -as far as new updates goes- on all of their higher end phones, today.

Where is the source on this article?

very cool, maybe ill finally upgrade from the original htc 2.1 rom to GB when it comes out!

Dang it...I saw no mention of "smoother UI experience". The only thing that really bothers me is how choppy the interface is despite a 1Ghz CPU.

h3nG said:
Dang it...I saw no mention of "smoother UI experience". The only thing that really bothers me is how choppy the interface is despite a 1Ghz CPU.
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More than 30fps will never be part of the evo, htc has said many times that its a HARDWARE limitation, they lied for a reason. To cover their ass. I dont see them exposing their own lie, ever.

TheBiles said:
Where is the source on this article?
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This ^
...Next we'll be seeing threads about how Gingerbread will be released on Monday...

Sounds interesting... can't wait.
Sent from my HTC Evo 4G using XDA app.

Who says HTC Evo 4g will even get Gingerbread?

dglowe343 said:
I read from a few places that Gingerbread would do away with 3rd party UI's like Sense. It would have to be pretty fricken sweet to get me away from Froyo Sense. I mean, how much faster could it get?
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I think the statement was that Google was aiming for UI that was nice enough to DISCOURAGE manufacturers from layering their own environment over the top, which would hopefully save resources.
But read this.

Plancy said:
Who says HTC Evo 4g will even get Gingerbread?
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Even if we don't get it from HTC (unlikely) with the dev's we have, I'm sure the evo will run gingerbread one way or another... if the g1 can run froyo... anything can happen

SilverZero said:
I think the statement was that Google was aiming for UI that was nice enough to DISCOURAGE manufacturers from layering their own environment over the top, which would hopefully save resources.
But read this.
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Hope that's true. I'd hate to see it done away with.
Sent from my FROYO'D EVO using xda app

SilverZero said:
I think the statement was that Google was aiming for UI that was nice enough to DISCOURAGE manufacturers from layering their own environment over the top, which would hopefully save resources.
But read this.
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I did read somewhere that sense was getting an "upgrade" sometime next year. Dont remember where i read this but i remember reading it for sure. I assume this will be for GB.

Plancy said:
Who says HTC Evo 4g will even get Gingerbread?
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Some dev with port it if anything... I don't see why we wouldn't get it. The phone meets the specs and I don't see them abandoning the EVO so quickly.
Sent from my HTC Evo 4G using XDA app.

This reminds me of all the sourceless articles about Verizon's iPhone launch this January.

Gingerbread instead of froyo?

hey guys what if the reason we haven't got our froyo is because e are getting gingerbread instead? Google just announced that gingerbread is filly cooked and that is planning to released ASAP.
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drago009 said:
hey guys what if the reason we haven't got our froyo is because e are getting gingerbread instead? Google just announced that gingerbread is filly cooked and that is planning to released ASAP.
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No, we're getting Froyo ... beta has already leaked if you haven't noticed. Official version from Samsung / Sprint should be out sometime in the near future. Don't get your hopes up with Gingerbread because we won't see that on the Epics for quite a while.

Yep. Like I said in the froyo leak forum, any person phone-geeky enough to be hanging out in XDA will probably have a different phone by the time Gingerbread hits the Epic.
However someone did make a good point in that the Nexus S will have gingerbread and since that's a Galaxy S phone it will hopefully be easy to port over to the Epic.

jirafabo said:
Yep. Like I said in the froyo leak forum, any person phone-geeky enough to be hanging out in XDA will probably have a different phone by the time Gingerbread hits the Epic.
However someone did make a good point in that the Nexus S will have gingerbread and since that's a Galaxy S phone it will hopefully be easy to port over to the Epic.
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That was me who said that, and I haven't yet seen anyone argue that it wouldn't be possible....

While the coming update is undoubtedly Froyo, I think it's only a matter of time before we'll have 2.3. Considering the new Nexus is the "Nexus S" from Samsung and looks to basically be another Galaxy S variant, I think ports will happen.

The Nexus S is not a CDMA phone so the port will take a bit or time, unless the 2.2 kernel works out of the box with 2.3.
It's possible but don't expect instant gratification.
Also shouldn't this be in general?

cicada said:
The Nexus S is not a CDMA phone so the port will take a bit or time, unless the 2.2 kernel works out of the box with 2.3.
It's possible but don't expect instant gratification.
Also shouldn't this be in general?
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Yeah it should, and I don't think anyone was saying we could just dump Nexus S and throw it on our phones.

odub303 said:
That was me who said that, and I haven't yet seen anyone argue that it wouldn't be possible....
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It won't be so easy if the dual core rumors are true

bobdude5 said:
It won't be so easy if the dual core rumors are true
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assuming they write the code for a dual core too I'd be willing to bet the first dual core phones won't be coded for it

Am I mistaken or is Gingerbread not 3.0 ? I see people referring to it as 2.3. Anyone care to chime in?

I saw that too.
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Muckrak3r said:
Am I mistaken or is Gingerbread not 3.0 ? I see people referring to it as 2.3. Anyone care to chime in?
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Gingerbread is 2.3. I guess the updates don't merit the 3.0 label.

Muckrak3r said:
Am I mistaken or is Gingerbread not 3.0 ? I see people referring to it as 2.3. Anyone care to chime in?
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The Goog has 'officially' said Gingerbread will be 2.3

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The Goog has 'officially' said Gingerbread will be 2.3
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Honeycomb is going to be 3.0
Epic experience + Phoenix kernel + Emotionless beast = Great functionality, Exceptional battery life, and Sweet eye candy.

2.3 would have to be released to the devs at the handset manufacturers so they could customize it for their phones (load it with their crap bloatware, custom interface, etc.....). As we have seen, that takes time (2.2 has been out for a while now). If we were to see 2.3, it would probably be 6 months from now, about the time 2.4 or 3.0 (they should call it Poundcake.....good name, and good Van Halen song) is coming out.
I don't think our handsets will ever see 2.3 at this rate. It will be another year into the future before we see it, and by then our phones won't even be powerful enough to make phone calls.

Oh we will definitely see 2.3 on the epic even if it has to be unofficially brought to us ;-)
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odub303 said:
That was me who said that, and I haven't yet seen anyone argue that it wouldn't be possible....
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This is exactly why I am so excited about the Nexus S. In the same way that the Nexus One gave the Incredible, the Evo 4G and the other HTC devices amazing hacking potential, the Nexus S will make our Galaxy S phones way way better.
More developers will be working on this platform, and we will have all the google stuff working on hardware that is 99% the same. Really, the only thing different will be the CDMA/4G radios, but that is just minor stuff since that is the only difference between the Nexus One and the Evo. Also, the Epic Experience ROM is full of stuff taken off of other Galaxy S devices and it all works great.
Also, I'm going to say that this phone is not dual core. It might have a 1.2ghz hummingbird, but thats the only thing that might be different. It might also have some filesystem stuff that is different but we can hack around all of that. Hopefully it is using the same GPS chip though, because Google will then really light a fire under Samsung to make sure they fix it once and for all.

Muckrak3r said:
Am I mistaken or is Gingerbread not 3.0 ? I see people referring to it as 2.3. Anyone care to chime in?
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Nope, it has been revealed that Gingerbread is 2.3 (which is allegedly coming to the Nexus One in a matter of days); it is speculated that Honeycomb will be 3.0

nimaim said:
Don't get your hopes up with Gingerbread because we won't see that on the Epics for quite a while.
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My money is on never seeing 2.3
I love my Epic... I'm just pretty sure 2.2 will be our only upgrade

snowmanwithahat said:
My money is on never seeing 2.3
I love my Epic... I'm just pretty sure 2.2 will be our only upgrade
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Absolutely no way that we don't get gingerbread. The epic is sprints flagship android phone, not to mention samsungs.
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Gingerbread out!

So, Gingerbread has been released... when do we see a ROM for the CDMA Hero?

OH HELL YEAH!
and here's a link:
http://developer.android.com/sdk/android-2.3-highlights.html

Time to get a new phone, ha.

Would it run on our phones?

Hopefully one of our few remaining devs can get something going
Sent from my HERO200 using XDA App

I'm not much of a dev, but I'll be dabbling on trying to get it to at least compile. I mostly build stuff for my own personal use. I'm sure someone will beat me to the punch anyway since I work more than I would like to
Your best bet is either jaybob (he seems to be just a cyanogen builder) or aosp. I think besides the previous two I mentioned and nfinitefx45 there are no other real public ROM devs left for our phone.

Darchstar?

Nexus S and Gingerbread are both underwhelming to say the least. Color me disappointed.

alexthearmo said:
Nexus S and Gingerbread are both underwhelming to say the least. Color me disappointed.
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+1 I thought the ui was gonna be badass. Not much of a change I am kinda curious about the obb memory management. Cyanogen is saying no pony on his tweets??? Just a heads up they changed where the adb.exe is

Asadullah said:
+1 I thought the ui was gonna be badass. Not much of a change I am kinda curious about the obb memory management. Cyanogen is saying no pony on his tweets??? Just a heads up they changed where the adb.exe is
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3.0 is probably going to be the one that has more of a UI change, pretty sure it was at least semi-confirmed a while ago that 2.3 wouldn't be a drastic change.

stayclean said:
3.0 is probably going to be the one that has more of a UI change, pretty sure it was at least semi-confirmed a while ago that 2.3 wouldn't be a drastic change.
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Yeah I read somewhere about one of the tablet makers saying that they weren't gonna release their tablet till honeycomb comes out because 2.3 isn't much of an upgrade. I just was hoping.
Here's a video I made of the gingerbread sdk. Remember I was tired.

awesomecomb said:
Darchstar?
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Is MIA

Asadullah said:
Yeah I read somewhere about one of the tablet makers saying that they weren't gonna release their tablet till honeycomb comes out because 2.3 isn't much of an upgrade. I just was hoping.
Here's a video I made real tired of the gingerbread sdk. Remember I was tired.
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To be fair though, .1 updates are never huge upgrades, just have back-updates and various new features that generally aren't massive (1.5 > 1.6, 2.0 > 2.1, 2.1 > 2.2, etc etc).The tablet remark makes sense, because if what's been said on various tech sites in the past is true, 3.0 will be made with tablets in mind, as opposed to 2.2/.3, which are not really optimized for tablets at all. Personally, I'm a bit excited to see what happens with NFC, as I am sort of into the idea of never carrying a credit card again.

Does 2.3 have requirements? I heard that either 2.3 or 3.0 will but I think its gonna be 3.0 since its a .7 update instead of a .1 update.

ubnub82 said:
Does 2.3 have requirements? I heard that either 2.3 or 3.0 will but I think its gonna be 3.0 since its a .7 update instead of a .1 update.
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This isn't always the case but in general naming practice the code base for a X.1, X.2, X.3, X.N, series of a program are the same and the revision steps are bug fixes and maybe small upgrades. When a name changes from 1.X to 2.X that usually indicates a major revision to the base code such as a rewrite.
Such as, 1.5 to 1.6, minor step, few new goodies mostly bug fixes, 1.6 to 2.1, major jump tons of changes and bug fixes, 2.1 to 2.2, mostly bug fixes but also included major Dalvek VM upgrade, the step from 2.2.1 to 2.3 is mostly bug fixes and a few updates. The next major revision should be 3.0 and from what I have read and heard it will have a major focus on larger format applications beyond cell phones such as Tablets and Media devises such as Tv's and Google Tv.

well the evo devs are already working on a rom for us. glad i bought an evo when i did. i don't think the hero can handle 2.3.

ubnub82 said:
Does 2.3 have requirements? I heard that either 2.3 or 3.0 will but I think its gonna be 3.0 since its a .7 update instead of a .1 update.
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you from sterling heights, mi? i used to live in macomb county.

fixxxer2008 said:
you from sterling heights, mi? i used to live in macomb county.
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Off topic, but I live in Warren.

fixxxer2008 said:
you from sterling heights, mi? i used to live in macomb county.
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Ya im from sterling heights
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fixxxer2008 said:
well the evo devs are already working on a rom for us. glad i bought an evo when i did. i don't think the hero can handle 2.3.
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That would be odd.
My phone seems to handle each update better than the last.

I asked HTC about why they didn't update the sense .

This is what HTC said about why the new OTA didn't get a sense update even tho alot of us were pissed about it.
I understand how important it is for you to have the latest software available for your device. We work with Sprint to determine which of their branded HTC devices will receive software updates. If your carrier does not request an update for the device we cannot create or host it. For the most up to date information regarding your carrier’s decision to update the device we recommend contacting them.
HTC cannot disclose any information regarding ROM updates until the carrier approves them. I cannot answer any questions or comments regarding any other company’s or manufacturer’s practices. I can tell you it is an industry standard to provide updates for a device for 18 months after its introduction. “Google has announced a partnership with manufacturers and cellular providers to keep all devices up-to-date in Android OS for an 18 month period from the date of launch. HTC and our native carriers were included in this list.
The one exception would be if a device's hardware does not meet the requirements of the update.” This refers to the base operating platform, Android, not the interface of the device. While we do make HTC Sense, our service providers have the final say on what is included in any update that is created for their branded devices.
To send a reply to this message or let me know I have successfully answered your question log in to our ContactUs site using your email address and your ticket number 11USCW24ENA000324.
Sincerely,
Jessica
HTC

In a nut shell now: we're not giving you an updated sense because we want you to spend more money to get the latest software. We only see this $_$
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dirkyd3rk said:
In a nut shell now: we're not giving you an updated sense because we want you to spend more money to get the latest software. We only see this $_$
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Ya that pretty much sums it up. Money talks bull**** walks. Kinda blows happy Virus is making some progress on the Kingdom rom with the new sense 3.0.

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Ya that pretty much sums it up. Money talks bull**** walks. Kinda blows happy Virus is making some progress on the Kingdom rom with the new sense 3.0.
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Haven't tried it yet. All those roms you have to partition your sdcard ext2/3 etc I tend to avoid lol. I've only tried sense 2.1 never ran 3.0 yet. How cool is it?
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Might I also suggest mikg v1.02. Runs flawlessly.
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dirkyd3rk said:
Haven't tried it yet. All those roms you have to partition your sdcard ext2/3 etc I tend to avoid lol. I've only tried sense 2.1 never ran 3.0 yet. How cool is it?
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So far on the newest ones he has done on his site you don't have to partition your SD card he made it smaller. I haven't done it to mine I ran it last night for a few hours to check it out. The kingdom is eye candy looks great has issues with sense restarting and YouTube is laggy. It's pretty cool worth checking out. The rom is trick man.
The most stable 2.1 is virus Synergy Rom I'm loving it nightly build. I haven't had to partition my SD card for any ROM yet you can if you want to .

That sounded more to me like, "Don't ask us, ask Sprint" They're the ones that chose to not let you have the most up to date ROM we could have given you."

HipKat said:
That sounded more to me like, "Don't ask us, ask Sprint" They're the ones that chose to not let you have the most up to date ROM we could have given you."
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I know lol think EVO users should ***** at Sprint for it . I was just asking why and that is what HTC was pretty much saying Sprint is the one to blame.

reaper24 said:
I know lol think EVO users should ***** at Sprint for it . I was just asking why and that is what HTC was pretty much saying Sprint is the one to blame.
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What's even more pathetic is that Sprint Rep told me the DAY BEFORE THE UPDATE was announced that the Evo would never get GB.....
Idiots...

HipKat said:
What's even more pathetic is that Sprint Rep told me the DAY BEFORE THE UPDATE was announced that the Evo would never get GB.....
Idiots...
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Ya they tend to be a pain in the ass when asking for information. Sad the EVO is a great phone and could run sense 3.0 with no problem but Sprint is all about making money and are gonna screw us over on updates.

reaper24 said:
Ya they tend to be a pain in the ass when asking for information. Sad the EVO is a great phone and could run sense 3.0 with no problem but Sprint is all about making money and are gonna screw us over on updates.
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It's called marketing 101. Why would you give the oldest phone the same enhancements as the new one? aren't businesses in business to actually make money and to protect their shareholders?
ropodope
Sent from my Vaelpak GB AOSP Preview Edition v0.1 for Evo 4g. Flash and ye shall receive.

ropodope said:
It's called marketing 101. Why would you give the oldest phone the same enhancements as the new one? aren't businesses in business to actually make money and to protect their shareholders?
ropodope
Sent from my Vaelpak GB AOSP Preview Edition v0.1 for Evo 4g. Flash and ye shall receive.
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Still blows lol a great phone there letting fall behind. They can suck at times.

Well its all about Sprint not wanting to pay for the updated Sense. Anyways thanks to Mik, we have the closest thing to Sense 3.0 with Sense 2.1. It is the best Sense rom I have ever used on XDA
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1038967
Check it out!

Mikee4fun said:
Well its all about Sprint not wanting to pay for the updated Sense. Anyways thanks to Mik, we have the closest thing to Sense 3.0 with Sense 2.1. It is the best Sense rom I have ever used on XDA
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1038967
Check it out!
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Lol thanks virus ROM synergy is sweet using it. You should check his work also he fixed alot of it.

Why desperate for 3.0?
I am trying to understand why everyone is so desperate for Sense 3.0. I have run the leaked GB with Sense 3 and it is no great shakes - mostly window dressing with very little added functionality. I went back to a previous version of Sense just because it is simpler and does 99% the same stuff.
I really do not see people buying a phone in order to get the next version of Sense...

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I really do not see people buying a phone in order to get the next version of Sense...
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I agree with this part. I am not looking at buying for Sense 3.0. I am buying the EVO3D for the updated hardware. Also I am sure that I am not the only one.

animal7296 said:
I agree with this part. I am not looking at buying for Sense 3.0. I am buying the EVO3D for the updated hardware. Also I am sure that I am not the only one.
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I will buy it for the hardware too! The 3D looks great. I was referring to someone else who indicated that the version of sense would be a reason to buy (or not buy) a phone. When in my opinion, later versions of Sense do almost nothing new for the phone.
Just my opinion after using 3.0 for a week or so.

ronnienyc said:
I will buy it for the hardware too! The 3D looks great. I was referring to someone else who indicated that the version of sense would be a reason to buy (or not buy) a phone. When in my opinion, later versions of Sense do almost nothing new for the phone.
Just my opinion after using 3.0 for a week or so.
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Yeah I was just agreeing with you.

ronnienyc said:
I am trying to understand why everyone is so desperate for Sense 3.0. I have run the leaked GB with Sense 3 and it is no great shakes - mostly window dressing with very little added functionality.
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Wait, what???
I'm sorry, but having the Quick Settings in the task bar pull down, the last used apps in there, too, a better lock screen system, better apk management, more options, etc, etc, is NOT just window dressing

HipKat said:
Wait, what???
I'm sorry, but having the Quick Settings in the task bar pull down, the last used apps in there, too, a better lock screen system, better apk management, more options, etc, etc, is NOT just window dressing
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No, that's also not exclusively Sense 3.0, which is what he was talking about. that can be seen in Sense 2.1 Which actually runs very nice on the EVO.
I've tried both Virus B1.1.3 (Sense 3.) and MikG 1.01 and 1.02 (Sense 2.1 + 3)
Here is my experience.
Virus's Revolution B1.1 and up REQUIRES SD Partition. flashing the ROM will WIPE THE SD CARD, it states it right on the tutorial. "Back up yo ****, this is deletin' yall!!" (Paraphrasing.)
After doing everything, backing up SD, partitioning card, converting partition, installing ROM. it is VERY pretty, the carousel effect is hypnotizing. But it just wasn't stable enough and wasn't fast enough for my liking. Apps frequently crashed and the Rosie kept needing to restart because it was too big to sit in the Memory. I even did all the tricks to try and keep it from having to do that.
MikG 1.02 is pretty quick, not the fastest ROM I've ever used, but in terms of other Sense roms, it's right up there with the rest of them. Really, the only thing I can see that is missing from the pure Sense 3 variant is the carouselling Homescreen and huge updated Weather widget. the Weather app that opens looks like Sense 3 though, which is odd, because in Virus's it's Sense 1 or 2.