So, those early Froyo adopters: Does the Froyo update for Vibrant fix the lag issues? I ask because I have the choice of the MT4G, which is incredibly lag-free, and if Froyo doesn't fix the lag issues, I may just jump ship.
Yes, I know there are many "lag fixes" out there; but lag fixes don't make the phone completely lag free like it should be.
No version of android can fix this lag. It has nothing to do with android...
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I never said it had to do with Android. I figured Samsung may have made optimizations/fixes in the Froyo update; I guess not.
N8ter is a troll in the truest sense.
When did we get FroYo? The roms in the dev section don't count.
By early adopters I meant the people who flashed the leaked Froyo.
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By early adopters I meant the people who flashed the leaked Froyo.
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The leak is laggy, it's not finished.
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That isn't very encouraging now is it.
I can't believe people are still putting mt4g in the same sentence as any galaxy s phone.
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That isn't very encouraging now is it.
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Did you miss the point I tried to make?
It's a LEAK and not an OFFICIAL update.
It's LAGGY in the sense that the launcher is very choppy among other things compared to JI6 but performance is better when installing applications.
It's a LEAK and not an OFFICIAL update.
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I can't believe people are still putting mt4g in the same sentence as any galaxy s phone.
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And they shouldn't why?
heygrl said:
Did you miss the point I tried to make?
It's a LEAK and not an OFFICIAL update.
It's LAGGY in the sense that the launcher is very choppy among other things compared to JI6 but performance is better when installing applications.
It's a LEAK and not an OFFICIAL update.
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My bad -- a laggy leak is very encouraging .
I have been using Eugene's macnut r10 for a little while now without any problems or lag. It works very well.
Wow I can't believe how much people are putting down this phone and the devs who work on it.
First of all I believe froyo does help and even erases the lag on the vibrant I'm running obsidian and its totally lag free with no lag fix in it.
I was also running the froyo build that eugene posted (stock froyo) and that 2 was lag free.
Even though we don't have official froyo yet we will and this phone is way better than a lot of other phone on the market right now and I believe the best t mobile phone..
N yes I've played around with the mt4g its cool but not for certain people. Its too heavy and bulky for me. Not as sleek and stylish as the vibrant.
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And they shouldn't why?
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Because the MT4G is a superior phone in almost every possible way.
Obsidian v2 and Onyx from TW are definitely lag free. Can honestly say feel better than stock with a lag fix. RFS or not, definitely no lag. Just flash a custom Rom and your set.
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There is lag and lots of it on the tw froyo roms. Bionix fusion 1.2 eclair is still the better choice for me.
onyx and obsidian V2.2 are lag free, after you remove the bloatware.
onyx and obsidian V3 are smoother than fusion 1.2.
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Because the MT4G is a superior phone in almost every possible way.
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Sure it is, if that's what you need to tell yourself. Truth says otherwise. The MT4G is an overhyped ugly little phone.
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Sure it is, if that's what you need to tell yourself. Truth says otherwise. The MT4G is an overhyped ugly little phone.
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The problem with comparing phones is everyone wants to make their phone sound the best. Truth be told, both Vibrant and MT4G have their particular advantages -- one isn't simply better than the other in everything.
So true.
These phones are for different people. You really can't compare the 2.
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The problem with comparing phones is everyone wants to make their phone sound the best. Truth be told, both Vibrant and MT4G have their particular advantages -- one isn't simply better than the other in everything.
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I tried contacting Cyanogen via Twitter, but he never responded. I know that the Galaxy S is listed as a supported device for CM6, but I don't know if this includes the Epic.
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I tried contacting Cyanogen via Twitter, but he never responded. I know that the Galaxy S is listed as a supported device for CM6, but I don't know if this includes the Epic.
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Epic is a Galaxy S device..
ScientificOne said:
Epic is a Galaxy S device..
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Well yes, but it is like the black sheep of the family. I'm pretty sure a CM6 build for the Vibrant/Captivate wouldn't work on the Epic due to the hardware differences.
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Well yes, but it is like the black sheep of the family. I'm pretty sure a CM6 build for the Vibrant/Captivate wouldn't work on the Epic due to the hardware differences.
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The difference chances are would be minor...there is no reason why not to support it...
Reason my guess it will be minor is it would be too much hassle for samsung to create separate firmware just for 1 phone one 1 carrier when they are distributing the phone to so many companies...so chances are it will be 99% the same..
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The difference chances are would be minor...there is no reason why not to support it...
Reason my guess it will be minor is it would be too much hassle for samsung to create separate firmware just for 1 phone one 1 carrier when they are distributing the phone to so many companies...so chances are it will be 99% the same..
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Just because Samsung's ROM is close doesn't mean the AOSP ROM will cleanly transition from one device to another without individual tweaks.
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Just because Samsung's ROM is close doesn't mean the AOSP ROM will cleanly transition from one device to another without individual tweaks.
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Well of course....just by the fact that it has a wimax radio means it will require tweaks...but I'm saying the tweaks will most likely be minor.
I just wanted to make sure the CM team was willing to make those tweaks and support the Epic.
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I just wanted to make sure the CM team was willing to make those tweaks and support the Epic.
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Well using the Vibrant as an example...once it came out one of the devs asked for donations to get the device and work on it....I guess same will happen in this case :/
CM6 will be the deciding factor of whether I get the epic or not.
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CM6 will be the deciding factor of whether I get the epic or not.
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Well then get the epic..duh lol
Same here, especially since I already have a nexus.
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CM6 will be the deciding factor of whether I get the epic or not.
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Same here, especially since I already have a nexus.
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I don't think not having Cyanogen is a dealbreaker.
Cyanogen was what made me love my Nexus, but it doesn't make a phone unlove-able.
As long as there is a good recovery image, optimized kernals, and theme support in the community, I'd be happy.
Then again, if he just made CM6 for the Epic, it would make things alot better.
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I don't think not having Cyanogen is a dealbreaker.
Cyanogen was what made me love my Nexus, but it doesn't make a phone unlove-able.
As long as there is a good recovery image, optimized kernals, and theme support in the community, I'd be happy.
Then again, if he just made CM6 for the Epic, it would make things alot better.
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That is true. I am so anxious to get this phone, I am going to keep my nexus though as my stand alone developer phone and dev android only, it is a headache to dev on my nokia n900 sometimes.
I don't want to have to rely on Samsung for software. I've heard Touchwiz is buggy and slow and Samsung has a bad reputation for pushing out updates. The hardware on the other hand looks absolutely phenomenal and with CM6 loaded on it, it would leave other phones in the dust.
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I don't want to have to rely on Samsung for software. I've heard Touchwiz is buggy and slow and Samsung has a bad reputation for pushing out updates. The hardware on the other hand looks absolutely phenomenal and with CM6 loaded on it, it would leave other phones in the dust.
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especially with some Frozen Yogurt, mmmm. Dont get me wrong, my Nexus is the shyt, but i miss a physical keyboard ever since i retire my Nokia N900 as my daily.
Is there any time frame that we can expect CM6 or stock android froyo roms?
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Is there any time frame that we can expect CM6 or stock android froyo roms?
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We don't even have full Froyo working yet..(specifically the JIT)..things take time...
As for Touchwiz being laggy isn't really true, whats lagging is the crappy RFS partition which is limiting our I/O...thus causing the lag...we have a fix for it but it still needs a bit improvement...
But for this phone chances are Samsung will support it...
Be patient..the Epic isn't even out yet...
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As for Touchwiz being laggy isn't really true, whats lagging is the crappy RFS partition which is limiting our I/O...thus causing the lag...we have a fix for it but it still needs a bit improvement...
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I've been reading a bit about the lag... How bad is it? Like, people mention it, but is it really something to get super upset over?
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I've been reading a bit about the lag... How bad is it? Like, people mention it, but is it really something to get super upset over?
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I can't really speak too much on it, being that I don't own one, but apparently the community fix raises the I/O performance back within the range of the Droid X. I'm not worried at all about it, personally. If Samsung doesn't fix it, the community will
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I don't want to have to rely on Samsung for software. I've heard Touchwiz is buggy and slow and Samsung has a bad reputation for pushing out updates. The hardware on the other hand looks absolutely phenomenal and with CM6 loaded on it, it would leave other phones in the dust.
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I've been reading a bit about the lag... How bad is it? Like, people mention it, but is it really something to get super upset over?
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Touchwiz is blazing fast for my on my moment.
Cyanogen 6.1?
http://www.cyanogenmod.com/home/cyanogenmod-6-0-status-update
Wow that quadrant score looks AMAZING.
He admitted he hacked/screwed the quadrant score to make it retardedly good.
Yeah, I really hoped it would be faster, but I think Wes Garner is surfing through till the 2.2 Update is live this next month then theyll throw in a new kernel and tweak it and call it CM.
I think the ETA is 1.5 months on a CM6 Rom for Vibrant, hope Im wrong, but thats my theory.
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He admitted he hacked/screwed the quadrant score to make it retardedly good.
Yeah, I really hoped it would be faster, but I think Wes Garner is surfing through till the 2.2 Update is live this next month then theyll throw in a new kernel and tweak it and call it CM.
I think the ETA is 1.5 months on a CM6 Rom for Vibrant, hope Im wrong, but thats my theory.
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Uhm. you know CM is always compiled based off AOSP right? CM for Vibrant wouldn't be compiled based off Samsung's TouchWiz. And according to JAC
# CM6-ALPHA compiled for vibrant. going to make OTA package and test in the morning. about 22 hours ago via web
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And where did you see this that he "hacked the quadrant score to make it look good." I don't get why anybody would do that, especially Cyanogen.
And where did you see this that he "hacked the quadrant score to make it look good." I don't get why anybody would do that, especially Cyanogen.
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http://twitter.com/cyanogen/status/21314856782
He did it to show that Quadrant scores can be hacked
heatfan said:
http://twitter.com/cyanogen/status/21314856782
He did it to show that Quadrant scores can be hacked
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Oh I see. A lot of the CM6 for vibrant stuff are on Github so I don't know about him waiting for Samsung to push 2.2
here it comes
I have been trying to be patient, but with Google's new voice actions only working with froyo I really can't wait to get our CM6 on to see how it works. Here's hoping its sooner rather than later.
Halieus said:
I have been trying to be patient, but with Google's new voice actions only working with froyo I really can't wait to get our CM6 on to see how it works. Here's hoping its sooner rather than later.
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Grab Vlingo its pretty close to the same thing. Of course its not the samething, but you get pretty good results and it does perform ths same actions.
I hope it's coming soon.... there's too much lag on my vibrant for a 1ghz processor
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I hope it's coming soon.... there's too much lag on my vibrant for a 1ghz processor
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The lag is because of crappy hardware (slow flash) and crappy proprietary filesystem (samsung's rfs). Neither of these things are likely to change in CM..
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The lag is because of crappy hardware (slow flash) and crappy proprietary filesystem (samsung's rfs). Neither of these things are likely to change in CM..
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Ah, I see, that's unfortunate. In other words the only solution to this problem is a Samsung Firmware update?
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I hope it's coming soon.... there's too much lag on my vibrant for a 1ghz processor
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apply RyanZA's lagfix on dev forums....?
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The lag is because of crappy hardware (slow flash) and crappy proprietary filesystem (samsung's rfs). Neither of these things are likely to change in CM..
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Lag isn't from crappy hardware lol its crappy software I.e. touch wiz
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apply RyanZA's lagfix on dev forums....?
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No bro, I saw some people were having some serious problems as a byproduct of that fix so I assumed it was wise to wait.
SeanFloyd said:
No bro, I saw some people were having some serious problems as a byproduct of that fix so I assumed it was wise to wait.
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I have been using it about 2 weeks and havent had ANY issues.
acjames said:
I have been using it about 2 weeks and havent had ANY issues.
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I've had no problems either.
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No bro, I saw some people were having some serious problems as a byproduct of that fix so I assumed it was wise to wait.
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No problems either.. the method for applying it isn't even difficult, try it yourself and you'll be impressed. And im not your "bro."
Work on the vibrant will pick up, Wes was working hard with Cyanogen on the final things to get the Slide CM6 build operational. Now its pretty much complete he can put some time on the Vibrant build.
Eugene & Barak's work on the AOSP 2.1 is coming along nicely as well, once its complete I assume (I am no dev) 2.2 AOSP will be pretty easy to build (once everything works in 2.1).
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Lag isn't from crappy hardware lol its crappy software I.e. touch wiz
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That'd be my guess as well. Launcher pro plus and the lag fix has made this feel like a much different phone. Touch wiz is basura.
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No problems either.. the method for applying it isn't even difficult, try it yourself and you'll be impressed. And im not your "bro."
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Holy irritable shrieking vagface, relax. No need to get panties/pantaloons twisted. My concern wasn't related to user difficulty in installing the fix. When I scanned the thread I noticed it wasn't universally working so I decided to wait. I appreciate your incredibly precious time and valuable insight
I'm kind of on the go right now but just saw that they're playing with Touchwiz 2.2.1 and theyre saying samsung altered the kernel, and although still rfs, it's flying! don't know how or where whatever they installed came from but just read that.
So Samsung made touchwiz faster did they update the interface?
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So Samsung made touchwiz faster did they update the interface?
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Like I said, I'm repeating the little I read and not adding any rumors too it. They are both saying 3-4x faster, fixing the IO problem before and showing 1255 quadrant bone stock, just rooted. Also thought I saw a mention of a POSSIBLE upload tonight.
I thought I remember reading that 2.2.1 ditches RFS for something else.
I'm Pretty certain their talking about android 2.2.1.
Sounds like changes to I/o for faster Vibrant's too.
Theyre saying touchwiz 2.2.1 which yeah it's just android 2.2.1 and just the corresponding touchwiz that skins it. And no, still RFS, they must be pretty firm on that, but they have optimized it, like I said 3-4x faster theyre saying it feels like. I'd like to think these guys have tried enough ROMs on their vibrants to know what 3-4x faster feels like, so I'm pretty confident this is great news.
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Theyre saying touchwiz 2.2.1 which yeah it's just android 2.2.1 and just the corresponding touchwiz that skins it. And no, still RFS, they must be pretty firm on that, but they have optimized it, like I said 3-4x faster theyre saying it feels like. I'd like to think these guys have tried enough ROMs on their vibrants to know what 3-4x faster feels like, so I'm pretty confident this is great news.
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UBIRFS is the new filesystem lol i odined the i9000 leak to play with and it is indeed amazing. cant wait for a hopefully soon tmo leak of it.
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UBIRFS is the new filesystem lol i odined the i9000 leak to play with and it is indeed amazing. cant wait for a hopefully soon tmo leak of it.
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Nice. Other then the obvious things that wouldn't work, like button mapping and such, hows it's stability?
From Eugene's twitpic, he would seem to have acquired a 2.2.1 JL4 build with a baseband of JL1 still.
so does this mean they got a new leak of a rom, or kernel?
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so does this mean they got a new leak of a rom, or kernel?
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Yes. That must mean I wasn't clear enough in my post (#9) just before yours.
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Yes. That must mean I wasn't clear enough in my post (#9) just before yours.
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thanks, did not see that before i posted
so are leaks like this (or previous 2.2 leaks also) leaked from samsung or tmobile? I know we have all been blaming samsung for the delay in releasing 2.2 to us, so im wondering if samsung has released it to tmobile?
Basically, who is holding us up on the official update, Samsung or Tmobile? (or in other words, who to blame?)
either way, these developers are amazing. i would have thrown my phone in the toilet if it we not for the developers here at xda
looks like they are making some good progress
I think they just need to release whatever they have and stop teasing/hoarding it. This is supposed to be a community. It's actually quite ridiculous.
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I think they just need to release whatever they have and stop teasing/hoarding it. This is supposed to be a community. It's actually quite ridiculous.
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The leak is here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=865701
They're not hoarding or teasing, its not for the vibrant so it probably needs some massaging to get it fully working.
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The leak is here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=865701
They're not hoarding or teasing, its not for the vibrant so it probably needs some massaging to get it fully working.
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Actually this is NOT what eugene and barak are tweeting about. They are tweeting about JL4 for the Vibrant. As to where they got this leak, well eugene has been able to get hold of leaks before so this isn't really a surprise.
As to the charges of hoarding or teasing, I don't recall eugene or barak ever owing me anything or anyone holding a gun to my head to follow their tweets.
Looking forward to seeing this in firmware myself, and I'm sure we all will have the opportunity soon.
Ya here is a shot of it
http://twitpic.com/3efir7
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Of course they don't owe use anything. But that's like someone discovering new firmware and choosing to talk about it rather than let everyone have a go at it. Wait, that's exactly what it is. No one else seems to have a problem with posting any new leaked firmware as soon as they discover them so why is this different?. The sooner it is posted, the sooner other devs can begin developing. That's the whole point of a community. Even if it is buggy I'm sure other devs are willing to sort it out for their releases.
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Of course they don't owe use anything. But that's like someone discovering new firmware and choosing to talk about it rather than let everyone have a go at it. Wait, that's exactly what it is. No one else seems to have a problem with posting any new leaked firmware as soon as they discover them so why is this different?. The sooner it is posted, the sooner other devs can begin developing. That's the whole point of a community. Even if it is buggy I'm sure other devs are willing to sort it out for their releases.
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They already released their source.. what has been done with that? Just because someone has something others don't,releasing it to the community guarantee's nothing. Eugene and Barak do plenty for this community, even when they are being harassed about it which is not cool.
...you need to see this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWKMGU9jstA
Should prove that Quadrant has nothing to do with real world performance, and just how fast this phone really is.
I guess I don't get what you are trying to show me here. He is comparing two different devices, running two different OS's. To support the title of your post you would have had to show me two Epic's, one with Froyo, one with Eclair. Also would have had to shown two Epic's, one with Froyo RFS and one with Froyo EXT4.
Irrelevant... both phones shown are not Epic.
Note: I don't care if the Nexus S is similar to the Galaxy S series, its not it, im sure there is a lot more under the hood they ain't talking about....
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...you need to see this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWKMGU9jstA
Should prove that Quadrant has nothing to do with real world performance, and just how fast this phone really is.
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^^^ comparison fail!
Worthless video as it does not directly relate to the Epic 4G.
Fascinate = Keyboardless Epic right? Pretty much. Fascinate runs RFS, Nexus S has stock Android 2.3 and whatever it's file system is. Look at them, neck and neck with those few comparisons.
Anyway, I tried. Continue *****ing.
Also, he kills ALL of the background crap on the fascinate, and NOTHING on the Nexus S. The stock task killer on the the galaxy devices does not show like 99% of what is running in the background. You cant run ATK on one device and not the other.
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Also, he kills ALL of the background crap on the fascinate, and NOTHING on the Nexus S. The stock task killer on the the galaxy devices does not show like 99% of what is running in the background. You cant run ATK on one device and not the other.
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Yea this is exactly what I was thinking. I spent the whole video trying to figure out A) what this had to do with the epic and B) what it had to do with quadrant. Furthermore the only time the fascinate 'beat' the Nexus S was the Angry birds, with everything else I saw it load faster, mind you only marginally. Still as other have pointed out there is no Epic comparison so its rather irrelevant.
Finally, on the topic of Quadrant: if one runs Standard it provides no valuable information, just a visible 'epeen'. If one runs Advanced it offers a break down that can be used as a comparison tool.
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Yea this is exactly what I was thinking. I spent the whole video trying to figure out A) what this had to do with the epic and B) what it had to do with quadrant. Furthermore the only time the fascinate 'beat' the Nexus S was the Angry birds, with everything else I saw it load faster, mind you only marginally. Still as other have pointed out there is no Epic comparison so its rather irrelevant.
Finally, on the topic of Quadrant: if one runs Standard it provides no valuable information, just a visible 'epeen'. If one runs Advanced it offers a break down that can be used as a comparison tool.
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Don't forget also that the OP mentioned Froyo. Neither device is running froyo.
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Don't forget also that the OP mentioned Froyo. Neither device is running froyo.
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Very good point, thank you.
He said for those hating on rfs and not having froyo, implying that 2.1 with rfs isn't that bad...
Sent from my Epic 4g powered by EE Froyo, Emotionless Beast themed!
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He said for those hating on rfs and not having froyo, implying that 2.1 with rfs isn't that bad...
Sent from my Epic 4g powered by EE Froyo, Emotionless Beast themed!
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But he showed nothing about Froyo, rfs, ext4, or the Epic 4G at all. Its like saying for those tired of people complaining about people complaining about froyo: http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/06/lg-optimus-black-hands-on/
I think what the OP is trying to show is that the Epic with 2.1 Eclair and RFS is almost exactly the same as 2.3 Gingerbread which uses Ext4 so how much difference is Froyo going to make (other than getting flash)
This has already been compared to the Epic. They got a vid where our epic killed the Nexus S.... Well not necessarily killed but http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFAYWyVcj0Q&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Nice video diego1985
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I think what the OP is trying to show is that the Epic with 2.1 Eclair and RFS is almost exactly the same as 2.3 Gingerbread which uses Ext4 so how much difference is Froyo going to make (other than getting flash)
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Actually it uses a combination of ext 4 and yffrs (i think that's what it's called.
Sent from my ext4 Epic 4G running Bonsai4all 1.1.3!
I don't give a rat's ass about flash, but Froyo does fix GPS for me (and yes, my problem was more than the hardcoded 30m value). On the other hand, Samsung managed to fuq up the acceloremeter, at least in dk28 build. Just download sensor debug and you'll see what I mean.
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I think what the OP is trying to show is that the Epic with 2.1 Eclair and RFS is almost exactly the same as 2.3 Gingerbread which uses Ext4 so how much difference is Froyo going to make (other than getting flash)
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And as with Angry Birds loading, RFS was faster.
Oh, and thanks for "getting" what I was saying .
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Oh yeah I almost forgot, without Froyo, Skype does not work on Galaxy S devices. Skype would be nice.
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Oh yeah I almost forgot, without Froyo, Skype does not work on Galaxy S devices. Skype would be nice.
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Skype BARELY functions IMO. I was excited to try it once I had Froyo on my device, but was quickly disappointed. Hopefully they'll be able to get video chatting up and running so I can finally use my front facing camera. There are so many family members I could talk to on Skype that have webcams but no phones with cams.
According to Phandroid.com, the Fascinate on Verizon is getting the Gingerbread Update!
http://phandroid.com/2011/12/01/samsung-fascinate-gingerbread-update-ready-to-roll/
Now T-mobile and Samsung, I have to ask, where is the Vibrant's update?
Galaxy S internatinoal got gingerbread.
Galaxy S 4G got gingerbread.
Captivate has gingerbread leaks.
Fascinate is getting gingerbread.
Vibrant Canada I think got gingerbread also.
So where is the T-mobile Vibrant Gingerbread????????????????????????
Might be more power full if posted in samsung website forum.
yea, post that there. Ive given up on GB anyway, custom roms are better anyway
Accept that it's not coming and 2.2 is the terminal firmware for the Vibrant. You can thank the T-959v for that.
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yea, post that there. Ive given up on GB anyway, custom roms are better anyway
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Imagine how better they'd be with Gingerbread source.
Eh doesnt matter anymore. We got devs doing ics, in a week or two more it'll run flawlessly.
wait.. correct me if i'm wrong but isn't the fascinate the same hardware minus the modem (cdma)? if this is the case devs could just as easily rip all the files needed to complete our driver issues on GB. if not oh well.
I believe there is something different with the GPS drivers on the Vibrant, which is why we have so many great ROMs without very good GPS.
Seriously? Another rant about gb for the vibrant? Just flash an i9000 port, and stop complaining. Or get another phone. There are early builds of ics popping up already. the vibrant was one of the first to get an ics build actually....
You disappeared after i showed you battery life on simply honey v6 beta....hahaha...where'd you go buddy?
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Why do you want GB now, when it's a year late? They should release ICS rather than GB. ICS is awesome on the vibrant btw
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thachosenone said:
Seriously? Another rant about gb for the vibrant? Just flash an i9000 port, and stop complaining. Or get another phone. There are early builds of ics popping up already. the vibrant was one of the first to get an ics build actually....
You disappeared after i showed you battery life on simply honey v6 beta....hahaha...where'd you go buddy?
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I9000 ports are good, but I need gps daily. If Im not mistaken the only GB kernel that has GPS is about 6 months old. We get an up to date GB kernel with working gps and more will flood the I9000 ROM section.
you guys are stupid for even thinking we'll get a update, if we do im sorry and i will cut my dogs ear off.
P.S. get your ass on ICS.
Moped_Ryder said:
I9000 ports are good, but I need gps daily. If Im not mistaken the only GB kernel that has GPS is about 6 months old. We get an up to date GB kernel with working gps and more will flood the I9000 ROM section.
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I understand the need for GPS, but it's really a hit or miss with vibrants. I'll pretty sure i got the first run of units, so gps never really worked well for me, no matter what ROM I'm on.
Granted, if i use the gb bullet kernel, i can get a lock and even navigation, but it takes a while. I just use maps to give me directions, then follow them. Simple solution to a simple problem.
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I understand the need for GPS, but it's really a hit or miss with vibrants. I'll pretty sure i got the first run of units, so gps never really worked well for me, no matter what ROM I'm on.
Granted, if i use the gb bullet kernel, i can get a lock and even navigation, but it takes a while. I just use maps to give me directions, then follow them. Simple solution to a simple problem.
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I would agree. I also got one of the first batches of Vibs. I did the hardware fix and things got much better for me. Give it a look if you haven't tried it. May help.
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Note - my wife and I both got Vibs together. Mine has the hardware fix and hers does not. Mine locks A LOT faster than hers. She is on a 2.2 ROM and Im on Miui as well.
Moped_Ryder said:
I would agree. I also got one of the first batches of Vibs. I did the hardware fix and things got much better for me. Give it a look if you haven't tried it. May help.
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Note - my wife and I both got Vibs together. Mine has the hardware fix and hers does not. Mine locks A LOT faster than hers. She is on a 2.2 ROM and Im on Miui as well.
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I tried the hardware fix myself, but only by bending the contact up. What exactly did you do to apply the hardware fix?
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MIUI-NB edition has a working gps, no need for hardware fix. but go for an older release for more stability
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you guys are stupid for even thinking we'll get a update, if we do im sorry and i will cut my dogs ear off.
P.S. get your ass on ICS.
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Yep, I'm getting on iOS in January when I switch carriers...
Oh, you said ICS... My bad...
Sorry, ICS = Different look, same nastiness. UI Latency, Adware galore, inconsistent UI across apps, poor market policing, etc.
I'm to the point where I just want something that works. Android is starting to feel like WIndows Me to me now...
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Yep, I'm getting on iOS in January when I switch carriers...
Oh, you said ICS... My bad...
Sorry, ICS = Different look, same nastiness. UI Latency, Adware galore, inconsistent UI across apps, poor market policing, etc.
I'm to the point where I just want something that works. Android is starting to feel like WIndows Me to me now...
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Everyone has a choice. Thats why I love Android and iOS. Both have their pros and cons. I am NOT a fanboy. I can point out both advantages for both platforms, and both have disadvantages.
I'm just glad this wasn't like 5 years ago where the only choice for a smartphone = iPhone. I did own a iPhone 3GS, jailbroke it, found nothing interesting to jailbreak except to pirate apps... which i pointless to me. I prefer android, it gives me a change. But again, opinions are opinions.
Tmoble already has the sgs 2 and the sgs 4g. Not to mention that the vibrant was discontinued months ago there's honestly no point in a business point of view updating a phone there not making any money on
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And this is why we need source direct from samsung
CM DROPS VIBRANT SUPPORT DUE TO 911 INABILITY:
"We are no longer supporting the Vibrant due to the inability to dial 911. We consider the issues related to this unresolvable without source code from Samsung related to the Radio interface layer and its interactions with the Audio layers and have taken the decision to no longer support this. We apologize for the inconvenience and strongly suggest that Vibrant users use a Samsung ROM due to the 911 issues with any ROMs based on open source code."
http://phandroid.com/2011/12/12/cya...le-galaxy-s-support-dropped-due-to-911-issue/
Now do you see why it is so important to have put pressure on Samsung/T-Mobile to release an update to Gingerbread? This is why! Developers are talented but they can't work miracles. We need source/drivers for proper 911 and GPS capabilities just to name a few.