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Nexus One Flying!

http://www.alldroid.org/viewtopic.php?f=247&t=1661
Not sure if any of you have seen this, or if it is on here in the development section.... but that is a pretty insane increase! 16+mflops/s! Stock is about 6mflops/s...

JIT makes my phone run 3 times faster but its not stable. Thats why Cyanogen does not include this by default. I cant wait till then have JIT bug free.

shep211 said:
JIT makes my phone run 3 times faster but its not stable. Thats why Cyanogen does not include this by default. I cant wait till then have JIT bug free.
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So that is just JIT? I hate being behind on what all is going on... trying to catch up, but they keep coming out with new stuff faster than I can learn about the old stuff...

Where do you get Linpac from?
I'd like to benchmark mine but I've searched the market for 'Linpac' and no joy

Try Linpack

Amdathlonuk said:
Where do you get Linpac from?
I'd like to benchmark mine but I've searched the market for 'Linpac' and no joy
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Linpack with a 'k'...

Damn.......... how stupid do I feel...
Thanks.

Amdathlonuk said:
Damn.......... how stupid do I feel...
Thanks.
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don't blame yourself, blame the android market for not picking up what you meant

TurboTsi said:
don't blame yourself, blame the android market for not picking up what you meant
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That is one thing that dumbfounds me about Android... the search of the market is HORRIBLE! You would think google could come up with a good way to search the market...

Linkpack doesn't come up for me.

Nexus fly's without JIT.

Breakthecycle2 said:
Linkpack doesn't come up for me.
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That was my bad, I added a 'K'... Should have been linpack.
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I edited my original post to reflect 'linpack' so it doesn't mess anyone else up.

Ryanmo5 said:
Nexus fly's without JIT.
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This is very true, I am still running stock and am in amazement! I will, in due time, root and get something custom on there of course, but for now I am enjoying the beauty of a stock N1 for all it is worth!

pjcforpres said:
This is very true, I am still running stock and am in amazement! I will, in due time, root and get something custom on there of course, but for now I am enjoying the beauty of a stock N1 for all it is worth!
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I so wish I didn't root this bad boy cause I am having all kinds of touch screen issues!

Ryanmo5 said:
I so wish I didn't root this bad boy cause I am having all kinds of touch screen issues!
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thats why i am still not rooted. after almost 2 weeks long fedex delivery **** ups, i am supposed to get my replacement this Monday or Tuesday

If I ask what is JIT would people hate me?

AllanJacques said:
If I ask what is JIT would people hate me?
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http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Android-s-Dalvik-to-be-JIT-boosted-861870.html

L I N P A C K
(lynn-pack)

Ryanmo5 said:
I so wish I didn't root this bad boy cause I am having all kinds of touch screen issues!
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Weird, what rom are you running, I haven't had any problems since rooting.

JoshHart said:
Weird, what rom are you running, I haven't had any problems since rooting.
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I think this is an issue for quite a few of us.
It seems that sometimes the screen registers a completely different place to where your finger touches.
I would say it's bad but I was touching the screen on my Nexus and selecting apps on my wifes G1

Has there been any word on CyanogenMod 6 for the Epic?

I tried contacting Cyanogen via Twitter, but he never responded. I know that the Galaxy S is listed as a supported device for CM6, but I don't know if this includes the Epic.

TheBiles said:
I tried contacting Cyanogen via Twitter, but he never responded. I know that the Galaxy S is listed as a supported device for CM6, but I don't know if this includes the Epic.
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Epic is a Galaxy S device..

ScientificOne said:
Epic is a Galaxy S device..
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Well yes, but it is like the black sheep of the family. I'm pretty sure a CM6 build for the Vibrant/Captivate wouldn't work on the Epic due to the hardware differences.

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Well yes, but it is like the black sheep of the family. I'm pretty sure a CM6 build for the Vibrant/Captivate wouldn't work on the Epic due to the hardware differences.
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The difference chances are would be minor...there is no reason why not to support it...
Reason my guess it will be minor is it would be too much hassle for samsung to create separate firmware just for 1 phone one 1 carrier when they are distributing the phone to so many companies...so chances are it will be 99% the same..

gTen said:
The difference chances are would be minor...there is no reason why not to support it...
Reason my guess it will be minor is it would be too much hassle for samsung to create separate firmware just for 1 phone one 1 carrier when they are distributing the phone to so many companies...so chances are it will be 99% the same..
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Just because Samsung's ROM is close doesn't mean the AOSP ROM will cleanly transition from one device to another without individual tweaks.

TheBiles said:
Just because Samsung's ROM is close doesn't mean the AOSP ROM will cleanly transition from one device to another without individual tweaks.
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Well of course....just by the fact that it has a wimax radio means it will require tweaks...but I'm saying the tweaks will most likely be minor.

I just wanted to make sure the CM team was willing to make those tweaks and support the Epic.

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I just wanted to make sure the CM team was willing to make those tweaks and support the Epic.
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Well using the Vibrant as an example...once it came out one of the devs asked for donations to get the device and work on it....I guess same will happen in this case :/

CM6 will be the deciding factor of whether I get the epic or not.

it. said:
CM6 will be the deciding factor of whether I get the epic or not.
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Well then get the epic..duh lol

Same here, especially since I already have a nexus.
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CM6 will be the deciding factor of whether I get the epic or not.
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ImSoHungry said:
Same here, especially since I already have a nexus.
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I don't think not having Cyanogen is a dealbreaker.
Cyanogen was what made me love my Nexus, but it doesn't make a phone unlove-able.
As long as there is a good recovery image, optimized kernals, and theme support in the community, I'd be happy.
Then again, if he just made CM6 for the Epic, it would make things alot better.

NeonMonster said:
I don't think not having Cyanogen is a dealbreaker.
Cyanogen was what made me love my Nexus, but it doesn't make a phone unlove-able.
As long as there is a good recovery image, optimized kernals, and theme support in the community, I'd be happy.
Then again, if he just made CM6 for the Epic, it would make things alot better.
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That is true. I am so anxious to get this phone, I am going to keep my nexus though as my stand alone developer phone and dev android only, it is a headache to dev on my nokia n900 sometimes.

I don't want to have to rely on Samsung for software. I've heard Touchwiz is buggy and slow and Samsung has a bad reputation for pushing out updates. The hardware on the other hand looks absolutely phenomenal and with CM6 loaded on it, it would leave other phones in the dust.

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I don't want to have to rely on Samsung for software. I've heard Touchwiz is buggy and slow and Samsung has a bad reputation for pushing out updates. The hardware on the other hand looks absolutely phenomenal and with CM6 loaded on it, it would leave other phones in the dust.
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especially with some Frozen Yogurt, mmmm. Dont get me wrong, my Nexus is the shyt, but i miss a physical keyboard ever since i retire my Nokia N900 as my daily.

Is there any time frame that we can expect CM6 or stock android froyo roms?

it. said:
Is there any time frame that we can expect CM6 or stock android froyo roms?
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We don't even have full Froyo working yet..(specifically the JIT)..things take time...
As for Touchwiz being laggy isn't really true, whats lagging is the crappy RFS partition which is limiting our I/O...thus causing the lag...we have a fix for it but it still needs a bit improvement...
But for this phone chances are Samsung will support it...
Be patient..the Epic isn't even out yet...

gTen said:
As for Touchwiz being laggy isn't really true, whats lagging is the crappy RFS partition which is limiting our I/O...thus causing the lag...we have a fix for it but it still needs a bit improvement...
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I've been reading a bit about the lag... How bad is it? Like, people mention it, but is it really something to get super upset over?

DevinXtreme said:
I've been reading a bit about the lag... How bad is it? Like, people mention it, but is it really something to get super upset over?
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I can't really speak too much on it, being that I don't own one, but apparently the community fix raises the I/O performance back within the range of the Droid X. I'm not worried at all about it, personally. If Samsung doesn't fix it, the community will

it. said:
I don't want to have to rely on Samsung for software. I've heard Touchwiz is buggy and slow and Samsung has a bad reputation for pushing out updates. The hardware on the other hand looks absolutely phenomenal and with CM6 loaded on it, it would leave other phones in the dust.
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I've been reading a bit about the lag... How bad is it? Like, people mention it, but is it really something to get super upset over?
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Touchwiz is blazing fast for my on my moment.

Does Froyo fix lag issues?

So, those early Froyo adopters: Does the Froyo update for Vibrant fix the lag issues? I ask because I have the choice of the MT4G, which is incredibly lag-free, and if Froyo doesn't fix the lag issues, I may just jump ship.
Yes, I know there are many "lag fixes" out there; but lag fixes don't make the phone completely lag free like it should be.

No version of android can fix this lag. It has nothing to do with android...
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I never said it had to do with Android. I figured Samsung may have made optimizations/fixes in the Froyo update; I guess not.

N8ter is a troll in the truest sense.
When did we get FroYo? The roms in the dev section don't count.

By early adopters I meant the people who flashed the leaked Froyo.

DarkAgent said:
By early adopters I meant the people who flashed the leaked Froyo.
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The leak is laggy, it's not finished.
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That isn't very encouraging now is it.

I can't believe people are still putting mt4g in the same sentence as any galaxy s phone.

DarkAgent said:
That isn't very encouraging now is it.
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Did you miss the point I tried to make?
It's a LEAK and not an OFFICIAL update.
It's LAGGY in the sense that the launcher is very choppy among other things compared to JI6 but performance is better when installing applications.
It's a LEAK and not an OFFICIAL update.

kaine13x7 said:
I can't believe people are still putting mt4g in the same sentence as any galaxy s phone.
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And they shouldn't why?

heygrl said:
Did you miss the point I tried to make?
It's a LEAK and not an OFFICIAL update.
It's LAGGY in the sense that the launcher is very choppy among other things compared to JI6 but performance is better when installing applications.
It's a LEAK and not an OFFICIAL update.
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My bad -- a laggy leak is very encouraging .

I have been using Eugene's macnut r10 for a little while now without any problems or lag. It works very well.

Wow I can't believe how much people are putting down this phone and the devs who work on it.
First of all I believe froyo does help and even erases the lag on the vibrant I'm running obsidian and its totally lag free with no lag fix in it.
I was also running the froyo build that eugene posted (stock froyo) and that 2 was lag free.
Even though we don't have official froyo yet we will and this phone is way better than a lot of other phone on the market right now and I believe the best t mobile phone..
N yes I've played around with the mt4g its cool but not for certain people. Its too heavy and bulky for me. Not as sleek and stylish as the vibrant.
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DarkAgent said:
And they shouldn't why?
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Because the MT4G is a superior phone in almost every possible way.

Obsidian v2 and Onyx from TW are definitely lag free. Can honestly say feel better than stock with a lag fix. RFS or not, definitely no lag. Just flash a custom Rom and your set.
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There is lag and lots of it on the tw froyo roms. Bionix fusion 1.2 eclair is still the better choice for me.

onyx and obsidian V2.2 are lag free, after you remove the bloatware.
onyx and obsidian V3 are smoother than fusion 1.2.

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Because the MT4G is a superior phone in almost every possible way.
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Sure it is, if that's what you need to tell yourself. Truth says otherwise. The MT4G is an overhyped ugly little phone.

heygrl said:
Sure it is, if that's what you need to tell yourself. Truth says otherwise. The MT4G is an overhyped ugly little phone.
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The problem with comparing phones is everyone wants to make their phone sound the best. Truth be told, both Vibrant and MT4G have their particular advantages -- one isn't simply better than the other in everything.

So true.
These phones are for different people. You really can't compare the 2.
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The problem with comparing phones is everyone wants to make their phone sound the best. Truth be told, both Vibrant and MT4G have their particular advantages -- one isn't simply better than the other in everything.
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You guys reading Barak and Eugene's Tweets? Exciting stuff!

I'm kind of on the go right now but just saw that they're playing with Touchwiz 2.2.1 and theyre saying samsung altered the kernel, and although still rfs, it's flying! don't know how or where whatever they installed came from but just read that.

So Samsung made touchwiz faster did they update the interface?
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AlexSochi8 said:
So Samsung made touchwiz faster did they update the interface?
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Like I said, I'm repeating the little I read and not adding any rumors too it. They are both saying 3-4x faster, fixing the IO problem before and showing 1255 quadrant bone stock, just rooted. Also thought I saw a mention of a POSSIBLE upload tonight.

I thought I remember reading that 2.2.1 ditches RFS for something else.

I'm Pretty certain their talking about android 2.2.1.
Sounds like changes to I/o for faster Vibrant's too.

Theyre saying touchwiz 2.2.1 which yeah it's just android 2.2.1 and just the corresponding touchwiz that skins it. And no, still RFS, they must be pretty firm on that, but they have optimized it, like I said 3-4x faster theyre saying it feels like. I'd like to think these guys have tried enough ROMs on their vibrants to know what 3-4x faster feels like, so I'm pretty confident this is great news.

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Theyre saying touchwiz 2.2.1 which yeah it's just android 2.2.1 and just the corresponding touchwiz that skins it. And no, still RFS, they must be pretty firm on that, but they have optimized it, like I said 3-4x faster theyre saying it feels like. I'd like to think these guys have tried enough ROMs on their vibrants to know what 3-4x faster feels like, so I'm pretty confident this is great news.
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UBIRFS is the new filesystem lol i odined the i9000 leak to play with and it is indeed amazing. cant wait for a hopefully soon tmo leak of it.

jumaaneface said:
UBIRFS is the new filesystem lol i odined the i9000 leak to play with and it is indeed amazing. cant wait for a hopefully soon tmo leak of it.
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Nice. Other then the obvious things that wouldn't work, like button mapping and such, hows it's stability?

From Eugene's twitpic, he would seem to have acquired a 2.2.1 JL4 build with a baseband of JL1 still.

so does this mean they got a new leak of a rom, or kernel?

kboater said:
so does this mean they got a new leak of a rom, or kernel?
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Yes. That must mean I wasn't clear enough in my post (#9) just before yours.

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Yes. That must mean I wasn't clear enough in my post (#9) just before yours.
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thanks, did not see that before i posted

so are leaks like this (or previous 2.2 leaks also) leaked from samsung or tmobile? I know we have all been blaming samsung for the delay in releasing 2.2 to us, so im wondering if samsung has released it to tmobile?
Basically, who is holding us up on the official update, Samsung or Tmobile? (or in other words, who to blame?)
either way, these developers are amazing. i would have thrown my phone in the toilet if it we not for the developers here at xda

looks like they are making some good progress

I think they just need to release whatever they have and stop teasing/hoarding it. This is supposed to be a community. It's actually quite ridiculous.

kangxi said:
I think they just need to release whatever they have and stop teasing/hoarding it. This is supposed to be a community. It's actually quite ridiculous.
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The leak is here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=865701
They're not hoarding or teasing, its not for the vibrant so it probably needs some massaging to get it fully working.

dcontrol said:
The leak is here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=865701
They're not hoarding or teasing, its not for the vibrant so it probably needs some massaging to get it fully working.
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Actually this is NOT what eugene and barak are tweeting about. They are tweeting about JL4 for the Vibrant. As to where they got this leak, well eugene has been able to get hold of leaks before so this isn't really a surprise.
As to the charges of hoarding or teasing, I don't recall eugene or barak ever owing me anything or anyone holding a gun to my head to follow their tweets.
Looking forward to seeing this in firmware myself, and I'm sure we all will have the opportunity soon.

Ya here is a shot of it
http://twitpic.com/3efir7
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Of course they don't owe use anything. But that's like someone discovering new firmware and choosing to talk about it rather than let everyone have a go at it. Wait, that's exactly what it is. No one else seems to have a problem with posting any new leaked firmware as soon as they discover them so why is this different?. The sooner it is posted, the sooner other devs can begin developing. That's the whole point of a community. Even if it is buggy I'm sure other devs are willing to sort it out for their releases.

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Of course they don't owe use anything. But that's like someone discovering new firmware and choosing to talk about it rather than let everyone have a go at it. Wait, that's exactly what it is. No one else seems to have a problem with posting any new leaked firmware as soon as they discover them so why is this different?. The sooner it is posted, the sooner other devs can begin developing. That's the whole point of a community. Even if it is buggy I'm sure other devs are willing to sort it out for their releases.
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They already released their source.. what has been done with that? Just because someone has something others don't,releasing it to the community guarantee's nothing. Eugene and Barak do plenty for this community, even when they are being harassed about it which is not cool.

So.....Time to put Gingerbread rumors to rest?

Froyo source is out. The last ROM to leak out was KB1, and that was almost 3 weeks ago....and it came out not long after the official Froyo KA6. Forgive me for starting this discussion (or argument, depending on how this develops), but I'm thinking that the lack of any recent ROMs in conjunction with the release of KA6 Froyo source and absolute silence by Samsung on Gingerbread for Galaxy S pretty much means there is no way official Gingerbread is coming to Vibrant. I'm just saying. Not knocking Samsung (for this, anyway, no need to rehash everything Samsung SHOULD be knocked for), because they never promised Gingerbread. I'm guessing no more official Vibrant firmware development whatsoever is taking place.

I think (and this is just my opinion) we shouldn't get too ahead of ourselves worrying about gingerbread. Especially when we have some epic ROMs to look forward to now that the froyo source is out.

I am waiting for the CM7 or teamwhiskey to port 2.3 to vibrant

If that's true, then wouldn't that mean that vibrant 4G would also not get gingerbread? Not 1 update.... at all?
Keep it in your pants buddy.

The reason there haven't been any leaks is because Samsung changed the ports on their FUS server. Haven't figured out which one it is yet.

does gingerbread even offer anything worth a damn?

sroach23 said:
does gingerbread even offer anything worth a damn?
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I don't think so
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krylon360 said:
The reason there haven't been any leaks is because Samsung changed the ports on their FUS server. Haven't figured out which one it is yet.
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Does FUS stand for F*ck U server? Lol

sroach23 said:
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Gingerbread is optimized for the Hummingbird while Froyo is optimized for the Snapdragon. It should give better performance. I finally had a chance to play with a NS for an extended time the other day and it is lightning fast bone stock. There are also some new api's that no one has begun to utilize...yet. It's like Eclair was - nothing special except for the processor boost. Icecream or whatever you want to call the next release is probably going to be a major upgrade with hardware acceleration and a ui overhaul.

Hey pig vomit do you play at laserquest
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All I care about is the sms bug fix which we will get once we get the froyo 2.2.2 update or even the gingerbread 2.3.2 or whatever...

Whatever, 2.2 is good

christpuncher said:
Hey pig vomit do you play at laserquest
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Did this make anyone else lol?
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probably going to be a major upgrade with hardware acceleration and a ui overhaul.
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Can't wait for this, i will squirt over any video showing off ice cream sandwich.

ferhanmm said:
Did this make anyone else lol?
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Well, me, actually. I sorta deserved it.