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Got the following text message this morning:
Free T-Mobile msg: Your usage has reached the data threshold for your rate plan this month. Your speed has been reduced for the rest of this billing cycle.
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Sure enough, i'm now getting 96 kbs down / 105 kbs up.
I wasn't aware there was such a threshold on the Android unlimited data plan. I sure don't remember seeing that in the fine print.
Rather annoying that I didn't know this was coming.
I can't say anything about the fine print although I assume there would certainly be some information about the cap but I wish state or federal government would go after telco's who keep claiming unlimited while actually have a cap set.
It's not so bad in your case where I guess it is still unlimited, just throttled, but in Canada if we go over our "unlimited" amount we actually get charged per kb.
Now perhaps if Tmo said it is unlimited 3G data it could be even more frustrating.
Well how much data have you used?
That's a normal T-Mobile thing. Any of the other 3 carriers will shut you off and/or bill per KB.
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RogerPodacter said:
Well how much data have you used?
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This ^
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T-mobile has a fair usage clause. Basically unlimited means that you get to use what the "average" data usage is from all of tmo's data users. If you go over that, you still get data free but you get throttled. It is to help keep the network from being overloaded. Also Tmo doesn't charge you for tethering like every other carrier and I would assume that by getting that message you have been tethering all month.
I have used about 3gigs of data on Tmo and never had that issue come up. You must really be sucking down some data. Be thankful you are not on one of the other carriers. They would have hit you with a huge tethering bill and the associated data charges!
As far as I know the softcap is 5GB.
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wow. I checked my account with t-mobile and I had used a whopping 10 gb this month! (I usually average about 4 gb but for the last week I let a coworker with an iPhone 4 tether off my line, and between us, we were sucking up over 1/2 a gig a day.)
No more data for you iPhone dude.
On the bright side, my billing cycle ends in a couple of days.
Wow, I'm really happy to see 5GB is the softcap! I just hit 1GB and started getting really worried. All this tethering to my PS3 for Call of Duty is adding up lol.
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I use about 1GB a month...I'll never reach 5GB, but good to know I have some room to spare Definately, Tmob is the best for data compared to the other carriers.
tanman1975 said:
Got the following text message this morning:
Sure enough, i'm now getting 96 kbs down / 105 kbs up.
I wasn't aware there was such a threshold on the Android unlimited data plan. I sure don't remember seeing that in the fine print.
Rather annoying that I didn't know this was coming.
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YESSSSSSSSSS!!!! I LOVE T-Mobile for doing this to the ones that abuse the fair usage of the network! T-mobile made me a happy man today
I thought the cap was 10gb. If the OP used 10gb like he said, then it seems 10gb is the cap.
Why did the OP have an iphone tethered to him? Makes no sense!
The Android "plan" for T-Mobile has a 10GB softcap. Not the 5GB softcap.
The throttling is to 50kbps for the rest of the billing-cycle but it looks like there's a bit of give on the throttling.
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Why did the OP have an iphone tethered to him? Makes no sense!
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Because the iphone has less bars in more places?
I don't get it. If there's a cap then it's not unlimited. If it's not unlimited why is T-Mobile allowed to advertise it as that?
Mokurex said:
I don't get it. If there's a cap then it's not unlimited. If it's not unlimited why is T-Mobile allowed to advertise it as that?
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unlimited data, not unlimited 3g/H as it turns out
I gave iPhone guy access so he could setup his new iphone4, also demo facetime and hd youtube (which he can't do over 3g). I suspect he abused the connection since my data usage more than tripled those days...
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I don't get it. If there's a cap then it's not unlimited. If it's not unlimited why is T-Mobile allowed to advertise it as that?
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It is still unlimited. Just throttled. 10 gigs is more than generous.
yeah it is unlimited but to keep network congestion down after you use a certain amount of data they slow you down. They don't charge you more though. The other carriers do a real nice tethering charge if you go over a certain amount, saying that you didn't pay to tether and you would never use that much data if you weren't. T-mo is awesome, believe it!
It could be worse. Some broadband providers are throttling users on their home accounts due to excessive bandwidth usage.
I'm not sure if anyone else has experienced this "T-Mobile cap your bandwidth speed after 500mb on Unlimited Plan" but I feel their going to loose a few customers for this. How do other tmobile customers feel about this????
This defeat having an unlimited plan!!! I used 1.8gb of data over a three week period and T-Mobile cut my internet speed to lower than 200kb. This is Bullsh*t!!!
No i'm not making the numbers up, that's what the Tmo rep told me!!!!
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I'm not sure if anyone else has experienced this "T-Mobile cap your bandwidth speed after 500mb on Unlimited Plan" but I feel their going to loose a few customers for this. How do other tmobile customers feel about this????
This defeat having an unlimited plan!!! I used 1.8gb of data over a three week period and T-Mobile cut my internet speed to lower than 200kb. This is Bullsh*t!!!
No i'm not making the numbers up, that's what the Tmo rep told me!!!!
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It's not 500MB. It's 5GB. Big difference. Tmobile rep told you wrong and you shouldn't have been capped at 1.8GB. If they really capped it at 500MB it would make a smartphone worthless.
I found it a little ludicrous to but apparently they did cap it because I have decent signal and my internet it slow as hell. Oh yea they also sent me a message saying that i used to much data!!!!
Yeah it's 5GB, not MB...HUGE difference. Unless you are using the T-Zones hack...THEN it is indeed 500MB, and to which I say suck it up.
Then take your service to att where they will be very happy to charge you for using more than 2gb of data, but don't worry... It will be full speed!
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ME: I received a text message from customer care sating that :"Due to the amount of data you have used this billing cycle, your data speed will be slowed for the remainder of the cycle" I havent found anywhere in my contract that says i have a limit on the amount of data i can transfer before i hit some kind of penalty. I have an unlimited data useage plan...
~Marrianne W: You do have unlimited data on your account. What has happened it that due to the data you have used already during this month. When you try to access more data, it is just going to be slower, then it was at the beginning of the month.
~Marrianne W: Once your new bill cycle start, which is on the 20th of the month. It will be faster to download again.
ME: right, I'm not seeing anywhere in my contract that says my data speed will be slowed if i use over a certain amount of data
~Marrianne W: I do regret that you were not informed of this before.
ME: I am a databse developer and I am on the move all the time. part of the reason i got the phone and plan i did was so that i would be able to upload and download databases as needed while i am out of th eoffice
ME: what is this data useage limit that i am required to stay under to keep my connection speed?
ME: and where can i find this in my contract?
~Marrianne W: Once you reach 5GB then the speed slows down.
~Marrianne W: This is for everyone that has the data on their account.
ME: and there is no separate plan to remove this cap?
~Marrianne W: I do regret that there is now other data plan that is available to remove the cap.
~Marrianne W: All the unlimited data plan have a cap on them..
ME: so in actuality, you can download/upload as much as you want, as long as you dont break 5GB, then you are slowed to <60Kbps and you can barely browse the web...?
~Marrianne W: That is what happens. There are so many people using this. That we need to slow the downloads, for customer the customer that use it a lot.
~Marrianne W: I do apologize for any inconvience this may cause you.
ME: it would make far more sense to a) tell the customers this, and b) offer a separate plan for X $'s more to remove the cap. All that is happening now is that customers like myself that HAVE to use a mobile data connection now have to turn to an alternative provider.
Totally awesome I tell ya.
Dude, we have all known about this for at least a month, it's been talked to death. If you don't like it, then switch to another carrier, which all have caps at 2GB mind you, and they all also have MUCH more expensive unlimited plans.
I don't mind the 5gb cap. but I do mind the poor reception I been getting from T-mobile in Los Angeles.
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I'm not sure if anyone else has experienced this "T-Mobile cap your bandwidth speed after 500mb on Unlimited Plan" but I feel their going to loose a few customers for this. How do other tmobile customers feel about this????
This defeat having an unlimited plan!!! I used 1.8gb of data over a three week period and T-Mobile cut my internet speed to lower than 200kb. This is Bullsh*t!!!
No i'm not making the numbers up, that's what the Tmo rep told me!!!!
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Are you using your phone as a wireless router for internet service?
Ashasaur- i'm not using T-zones I'm on the unlimited plan, well the supposed to be unlimited bull plan.
djdanska- the point is they should inform me that the plan is limited before signing a 2 year contract for $30 dollars that they claim is unlimited. I would of preferred not paying anything at all than paying $30 a month for 2gb!!!! After 2gb the internet is useless if your paying for it!!
mechanix619- Sometimes but that is not the point I had less than 2gb for the month!!!
These phone providers are straight pimping their consumers. Plain and simple if they claim that the heavy users are bogging down their system well give us the rest of our damn money back, don't take our money if you can't commit.
I don't know about you all but 2gb of data is nothing for what our smartphones were meant for. The services alone on most of the applications we use stay running constantly. I might as well move to simple mobile where I get everything in one for $60 compared to $30 dollars extra for 2gb of data. Of course i'm expecting simple mobile internet to be slower but guess what I'm not paying for it.
Seriously, YOU STILL HAVE UNLIMITED DATA. Why don't you people understand this? T-Mobile has done NOTHING WRONG IN LIMITING YOUR SPEED. IF THEY CUT YOU OFF COMPLETELY BECAUSE YOU GO OVER THE CAP THEN YES THEY ARE IN THE WRONG. Unlimited data DOES NOT mean you will always recieve 3G speeds, it simply means that you have unlimited access to mobile internet service.
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Seriously, YOU STILL HAVE UNLIMITED DATA. Why don't you people understand this? T-Mobile has done NOTHING WRONG IN LIMITING YOUR SPEED. IF THEY CUT YOU OFF COMPLETELY BECAUSE YOU GO OVER THE CAP THEN YES THEY ARE IN THE WRONG. Unlimited data DOES NOT mean you will always recieve 3G speeds, it simply means that you have unlimited access to mobile internet service.
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Ok first of all they did do something wrong they cap my internet before 2gb. Secondly do you think it's worth paying $30 dollars for 2gb of data? Yes I do understand that the internet is not off but only the speed has been cut. But have you tried doing anything at 60kb?
Up to my darn Pandora software don't even run good on it, damn thing stop every second. I'm just saying wouldn't limited sound much better then unlimited?? The way they use unlimited is a lie because the internet is limited. Lets say even if you wanted to, do you know how long it will take to go over another 3gb going at 60kb? FOREVER!!!!
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.....ME: it would make far more sense to a) tell the customers this....
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Step 1: sign contract
Step 2: Use services
Step 3: get mad
Step 4: *****
Step 5: Read contract's fine print
Step 6: Feel sheepish
The data cap has been in your contract since the day you signed it.
I quote T-Mobiles Terms of Use:
We(T-Mobile) reserve the right to at any time limit a persons access to mobile internet services(TDMA, GPRS, EDGE, 3G, 4G) in accordance with their contract. These limits may include(s); Lower bandwith, lower overall data speeds, limited access at peak hours of service etc.
Seriously, go and read your contract and the TOS. It's all in there.
JCopernicus- can you please show me where in the contract I will be capped for going over 2gb please!!!! Have you notice I have not complained about 5gb? Another thing this is something new because I've had no issue in the past!!! So what ur saying is incorrect!!!
By the way how much is T-Mobile paying you???? Jus a joke lol!lol! Their still a thief 60kb are you for real!!!!! MetroPCS does better than this!!!!
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JCopernicus- can you please show me where in the contract I will be capped for going over 2gb please!!!! Have you notice I have not complained about 5gb? Another thing this is something new because I've had no issue in the past!!! So what ur saying is incorrect!!!
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It's in the contract, as posted above.
You haven't had an issue in the past because t-mo has always been crazy linient in regards to data services.
I can only assume their towers are getting gangraped between the HD7 and the 4G/G2 recently.
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Ok first of all they did do something wrong they cap my internet before 2gb. Secondly do you think it's worth paying $30 dollars for 2gb of data? Yes I do understand that the internet is not off but only the speed has been cut. But have you tried doing anything at 60kb?
Up to my darn Pandora software don't even run good on it, damn thing stop every second. I'm just saying wouldn't limited sound much better then unlimited?? The way they use unlimited is a lie because the internet is limited. Lets say even if you wanted to, do you know how long it will take to go over another 3gb going at 60kb? FOREVER!!!!
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If they cut you off at less than 2GB I would call Customer service and find out why when they have it published that you get throttled at 5GB. Escalate that **** up the chain of command if you have to. they shouldn't be capping you at 2GB. I would be pissed too.
I was sold unlimited access to the internet. That is how t-mobile explained it to me. Them slowing down my speed doesn't matter. I still have unlimited access to the internet. I have never heard t-mobile EVER mention having unlimited speed, and i've been with them since the voicestream days. They never made any guarantee of speed for your entire bill cycle. So, im going to still have to disagree on it being limited.
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Ashasaur- i'm not using T-zones I'm on the unlimited plan, well the supposed to be unlimited bull plan.
djdanska- the point is they should inform me that the plan is limited before signing a 2 year contract for $30 dollars that they claim is unlimited. I would of preferred not paying anything at all than paying $30 a month for 2gb!!!! After 2gb the internet is useless if your paying for it!!
mechanix619- Sometimes but that is not the point I had less than 2gb for the month!!!
These phone providers are straight pimping their consumers. Plain and simple if they claim that the heavy users are bogging down their system well give us the rest of our damn money back, don't take our money if you can't commit.
I don't know about you all but 2gb of data is nothing for what our smartphones were meant for. The services alone on most of the applications we use stay running constantly. I might as well move to simple mobile where I get everything in one for $60 compared to $30 dollars extra for 2gb of data. Of course i'm expecting simple mobile internet to be slower but guess what I'm not paying for it.
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While i don't like, but understand the speed limiting, i do think it may lead to more. If they can slow down my speed to whatever they limit it to, how hard would it be for them to have tiers, like how comcast does? Do you want 3 meg internet? 8 meg internet? 21 meg internet? Is that where this throttling thing may end up like? Different caps for different tiers? If i was talking about att, i would guarantee they would do it in a heartbeat, but would tmobile do something like that?
edit: I too was throttled today on my tmo dell mini netbook. Quick change of the apn and im back to full speed again! epc.tmobile.com can be throttled but apparently the old voicestream apn of internet2.voicestream.com doesn't yet. So, if your throttled, change your apn to internet2.voicestream.com and see if its better for you. If you do that on a phone and keep it that way, you will most likely need to mess with the mms settings because they are different with the internet2 apn. I could never get them to send with that apn.
So, Sprint called me today to inform me that they are dropping my service because of excessive data roaming. They are not charging me an ETF and they are giving my 250$ deposit back. I am not upset about that, I am upset about not being able to use my Evo and the community that comes with it. I will miss the HTC XDA community if I have to go to Motorola or LG or SE.
My only choice when it comes to coverage is Verizon. The only phone that seems to be on the horizon is the Bionic that comes with LTE. I don't want the Droid X or Droid 2 because LTE is about to launch and would enjoy to have it, along with that sweet sweet dual core. Bionic seems to be the best bet, but I remember hearing something LG dropping a phone soon too.
My main question is, what Android phones are coming out this year with LTE and dual core? I don't mind being without phone service for a few months waiting.
wow, may I ask what your excessive data usage amounted to?
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wow, may I ask what your excessive data usage amounted to?
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Of course.
It wasn't really excessive it was just that the majority of it was roaming. I only get Verizon coverage at work where I use my phone the most (when it comes to data, have WiFi at home) so I used the PRL hack to be on it all the time. I heard about them being upset about this and I was expecting at least a warning but they are straight up dropping my service.
My average data usage was 4 to 5GB on roaming with around 300-400mb on Sprint for the past 4-5 months.
Noob question...how do you know you are recieving roaming data? I have been complaining about horrible data speeds and told them i want to cancle with no fee. They said they basically base that off of calls dropped.and not data. I uae my phone minimal for calling but data is another story and it is horribly slow.
Verizon has a HTC android coming out soon, it's suppose to be a really good one. Sorry I cannot remember the name of it, but when I get a chance I will post it back in here with a link for you. Sorry to hear about Sprint. Did you use the data hack by any chance?(sorry, posted above) If so that's why I never jumped on board with that. Good luck, hopefully you'll still be here on XDA.
http://www.htc.com/us/products/thunderbolt-verizon Here you go.....HTC Thunderbolt
Doesn't the Unlimited Plan include free roaming?? Where is there verbiage about "excessive roaming"??
that sucks. Unlike some ISP's for land lines which come to agreements so each can freely use the others networks, I don't think any wireless providers do anything of the sorts. While its ****ty they didnt give you a warning, i'm sure they were probably paying up the ass to verizon.
Well, best of luck to you!
Advice: search around here and see the threads on how to use your EVO on Boost Mobile.
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Noob question...how do you know you are recieving roaming data? I have been complaining about horrible data speeds and told them i want to cancle with no fee. They said they basically base that off of calls dropped.and not data. I uae my phone minimal for calling but data is another story and it is horribly slow.
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If you go to the Sprint website and look at your usage. There will be a roaming section in the data usage there.
SilverStone641 said:
Doesn't the Unlimited Plan include free roaming?? Where is there verbiage about "excessive roaming"??
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It's there....in the fine print.
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It's there....in the fine print.
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Yeah the fine print. if you go read the official data usage section it states that no more than 300mb may be used per month. Hints why 4-5gb got your service dropped instantly. You just let Verizon run over sprint then reverse and run them over with that bill they had to pay.
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Yeah the fine print. if you go read the official data usage section it states that no more than 300mb may be used per month. Hints why 4-5gb got your service dropped instantly. You just let Verizon run over sprint then reverse and run them over with that bill they had to pay.
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Actually the 300MB is for data cards. There is no roaming limit. They will cancel you if the majority of your usage is roaming and towers over Sprints.
I'll keep my eye on the Bionic and the Thunderbolt. Hopefully Motorola will work with the community and not have locked bootloaders.
Correct the roaming is for minute usage not data. People get kicked for the talk not data. Data roaming booting applies to data cards as well not phones but you will be charged overages on phone data roaming.
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Just occurred to me that if I want a quick exit from my Sprint contract sans ETF, maybe I should flash a VZW PRL and start hitting the 3g network hard.
ZachPA said:
Just occurred to me that if I want a quick exit from my Sprint contract sans ETF, maybe I should flash a VZW PRL and start hitting the 3g network hard.
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Pretty much what happened to me after a few months.
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Correct the roaming is for minute usage not data. People get kicked for the talk not data. Data roaming booting applies to data cards as well not phones but you will be charged overages on phone data roaming.
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That is not correct. I am being dropped for data roaming on my Evo. No charges or anything are being applied to it.
There is somewhat if a simple solution. Tell them you roam mostly at home and they will send you a free airave (you have to push to get it for free). Basically it is a small sprint tower that goes thru your local ISP. Ooonce powered up, about two hours) it works flawless.
Best of luck
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That is not correct. I am being dropped for data roaming on my Evo. No charges or anything are being applied to it.
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Well, DS works for sprint. Maybe you should PM him your number so he can fix those missing data roaming charges.
SilverStone641 said:
Doesn't the Unlimited Plan include free roaming?? Where is there verbiage about "excessive roaming"??
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If you log into your Sprint account and look under your plan details it says 500 mb of roaming data.
The EVO you wish you had
They say that there is such things that are "unlimited", but it's not really. They just set a cap so high that they believe no one will hit. Altell used to do this with their messaging plans.
It's kind of crappy that they're doing this to you, but I would avoid any Moto product unless the C-mod gets ported to it quickly. Motorola phones from what I've seen and used of them, are terrible. Moto Blur sucks, and build quality isn't bad but they have awkward builds. Decent battery life in them, and decent support for their high end devices. But that's about it.
There are other news media reporting the same story, it will be interesting to see if AT&T will stick to their guns and continue throttling us. I realize there have been other threads discussing this topic but I felt this story deserves it's own thread.
AT&T is offering to discuss a settlement with an iPhone user who won a small-claims case that alleged the company was slowing down his "unlimited" data service
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I see them back in court soon, (them being AT&T).
Now they will throttle at 3GB which effectively renders the unlimited plan null and void and puts everyone with "unlimited" on the 3GB plan!
Nice to see the wee guy win for a change!
Eff phone companies. Greedy whores.
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It is kinda bullsh*t that those of us with unlimited plans do get throttled (Though i have yet to breach my limit... don't often use that much data when i'm out and about)... but i think it's even worse that phone service providers charge extra for tethering. If you ask me, any data plan should come with SOME data allowance for tethering.... say.... if you have the 3GB data plan, maybe allow somewhere around 1-2GB of data that's ONLY for tethering alongside that 3GB mobile data allowance. So you'd have 3GB to use on the go if you're doing stuff on your phone, but have that little extra to use if you're doing something more bandwidth intensive that the phone itself isn't capable of, and you're not near a WiFi connection.
If you ask me... that would probably be the perfect way to please their customers. Hell... it'd make me a little happy. Although... then again... i don't really have any mobile devices BUT my phone... so possibly not.
I hate to be throttled and I've been throttled every month since it started, but really I don't think "unlimited data" guarantees the data has to be a certain minimum speed (real slow downs from network congestion or manufactured through throttling).
I can't quite remember where I read it, but somewhere I read that AT&T promised unlimited, not necessarily fast. (Not a viable excuse, just thought it was a funny thought ) I do wonder however how many people will try to follow with this and how 'out of hand' it may get. I wonder what it will push AT&T to do.
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I hate to be throttled and I've been throttled every month since it started, but really I don't think "unlimited data" guarantees the data has to be a certain minimum speed (real slow downs from network congestion or manufactured through throttling).
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.... Generally... when you hear "Unlimited"... you don't think "Well, it'll become slower than hell if i go this far". That'd be like going to an all you can eat buffet, and they tell you that you can have all you want for the first 15 minutes you're there... but after that you have to wait 10 minutes in between each plate. At this point, there are only really two differences between the 3GB plan and the "Unlimited" plan. Those being that the unlimited plan doesn't get charged for going over 3GB but supposedly goes so ungodly slow after being throttled that it's hardly worth using.... and that the 3GB plan may be charged extra per GB... but at least they can probably use it without being throttled.
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I hate to be throttled and I've been throttled every month since it started, but really I don't think "unlimited data" guarantees the data has to be a certain minimum speed (real slow downs from network congestion or manufactured through throttling).
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The slowdown... makes a phone difficult to use for anything but calls, texts and some emails... .
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I see the point you are trying to make but if it is throttled to the point that it makes using the Internet pointless then it's really no longer a Data Plan.
I would be interested in seeing what information he provided to make his case. I've had an unlimited plan for a few years and this month was the 1st time I got a txt saying I was over 3gb of data. I guess I got thorrtled, but my radio seems to keep me slow the way it is
Actually, once I got the txt, I was a Tad faster.
Yeah it BULL , at&t took my unlimited data plan away cuz i tethered three times to send one email, so i escalated to and asistant call center manager that put it back, at&t is a bunch of deucshe bags, they no how to treat there loyal customers dont they if i could do something about this i would it pisses me off enough too. I WILL SAY THIS ... I NOW AM GOING TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF AT&T COMPLETELY, I WILL RIP THEM OFF AND TREAT THEM AS THEY HAVE TREATED ME AND THE REST OF YOU. YOU WANNA CAP MY DATA AND MAKE IT INSIGNIFICANT TO HAVE IT AT&T? HUH? WELL WATCH AS YOU PAY FOR MY DATA PLAN EVERY MONTH, I WILL HAVE MY REVENGE OR ILL JUST GET AN LTE PHONE AND COMPLAIN AND NEVER DO A THING THAT I HAVE TALKED ABOUT IN THIS RIDICULOUS COMMENT> BUT IT SURE PISSES ME OFF
some links from that guy's research and other helpful info:
http://taporc.com/
http://www.getheroik.com/featured/h...aims-court-and-win-matthew-spaccarellis-docs/
also, quick question. for those of us who did the iPhone 2G workaround to get unlimited data... how would we go about showing contractual documentation of AT&T providing unlimited service?
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Maybe stop calling it an unlimited plan. That might go a long way to helping their case.
I was very surprised to see VZW offer unlimited data with their new plan after attempts to kill off grandfathered UDP accounts. It seems too be good to be true: I can switch to the new plan and save $50/month.
Is there any downside to doing so? I hate to give up my coveted UDP without ensuring there is no catch.
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I was very surprised to see VZW offer unlimited data with their new plan after attempts to kill off grandfathered UDP accounts. It seems too be good to be true: I can switch to the new plan and save $50/month.
Is there any downside to doing so? I hate to give up my coveted UDP without ensuring there is no catch.
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They may throttle you down to 3g speeds after 22gb per month per line, but only if the tower you're connected to is congested.
Otherwise, I really see no downside.
Posted from my phone, forgive any spelling errors.
That is what I am thinking - thx for reply.
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I was very surprised to see VZW offer unlimited data with their new plan after attempts to kill off grandfathered UDP accounts. It seems too be good to be true: I can switch to the new plan and save $50/month.
Is there any downside to doing so? I hate to give up my coveted UDP without ensuring there is no catch.
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Also don't forget the 10 GB hotspot limit before throttling kicks in for that. Just depends on your usage/habits if it is worth it.
bakemcbride21 said:
Also don't forget the 10 GB hotspot limit before throttling kicks in for that. Just depends on your usage/habits if it is worth it.
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Solid point. If rooted, is there a way around that 10GB limit by making data appear to be normal phone data usage instead of hotspot data usage?
svtkobra7 said:
Solid point. If rooted, is there a way around that 10GB limit by making data appear to be normal phone data usage instead of hotspot data usage?
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That would be a very useful mod!!
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Also, they only throttle to 3g now, not the dial up speeds that safety mode throttles to, so it's not so terrible.
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JustinChase said:
That would be a very useful mod!
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See image - I'm pretty sure Orbot will accomplish this by using Transparent Proxying (Requires Root) => Request Root Access + Tor Tethering. See image.
I'm sure there are numerous ways to skin this cat though.
Just want to point out that the 10GB hotspot does count towards the 22GB. Not a big deal but good to know. It was one of the FAQs we got in an email at work.
If you have a discount on your plan now, you'll lose it when you switch to an unlimited plan.
buddahj said:
If you have a discount on your plan now, you'll lose it when you switch to an unlimited plan.
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Is this confirmed? Or just speculation?
Spinkness said:
Is this confirmed? Or just speculation?
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100% confirmed ... see attached when I start to initiate the switch online ... "Your employee discount doesn't apply to the new Verizon Plan Unlimited option."
also: https://community.verizonwireless.com/thread/927745
svtkobra7 said:
100% confirmed ... see attached when I start to initiate the switch online ... "Your employee discount doesn't apply to the new Verizon Plan Unlimited option."
also: https://community.verizonwireless.com/thread/927745
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Only a military discount will discount the unlimited plan. The accessory discount will still apply, but not any other employee discounts.
At least for now. I suspect this will change in the future.
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Has anyone made this switch? I was wondering if you have a rooted phone like my HTC 10, am I still limited to 10gb or does it it treat it like regular LTE through the phone.?
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im_high_tech said:
Has anyone made this switch? I was wondering if you have a rooted phone like my HTC 10, am I still limited to 10gb or does it it treat it like regular LTE through the phone.?
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I did, February 13th. Running lee droid. Here is a screenshot of how much data I've used since. 2 Be honest, I have not noticed any difference at all except for apparently when I get the bill it'll be cheaper. Yes, rooted, unlocked, s-off
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I HAVE noticed a huge difference. Its much worse on the new plan. As soon as i went over 20 gb, i felt delay and weak speeds .
One of the screenshots are downtown Columbus OH ( home) where i used to never had any kinds of issue and the other one is downtown Nashville TN. The signal bar shows good, but even a YouTube video would not load.
New plan Nothing like the old.
They may say only in congested areas but I've got audio recording from supervisor level CS who readily admits its nothing more than the same throttling other carriers do. Maybe even worse. When I changed I heard all the same that its only after 22gb and only noticeable in congested area. I live square between three towers at less than 4 miles and my entire county has less population than 8000 (40 square miles of area). The first day was fine speeds around 3 to 4 gb/s the following day speeds of .05 to .25 we're the norm that's dialup and less. Numerous calls to CS including escalated to exec CS found no one willing to admit problem with their claim to not throttle. In an area like mine at 3 am speeds slower than dial up are plain ridiculous. 3rd day finally got someone to admit it amounts to throttling with "high use" customers. They agreed to move me back to old plan since new billing hadn't started and so far so go on old plan speeds back up and not noticeable problems.
Please be careful changing to new plan because odds are you won't notice these spped problems until after new billing begins and then no chance to get old plan back. BE AWARE. THEY WANT OLDER UDP GONE. Along with just finally booting some extremely Hugh use customers now they're coming for us with what amounts to false advertising.
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They may say only in congested areas but I've got audio recording from supervisor level CS who readily admits its nothing more than the same throttling other carriers do. Maybe even worse. When I changed I heard all the same that its only after 22gb and only noticeable in congested area. I live square between three towers at less than 4 miles and my entire county has less population than 8000 (40 square miles of area). The first day was fine speeds around 3 to 4 gb/s the following day speeds of .05 to .25 we're the norm that's dialup and less. Numerous calls to CS including escalated to exec CS found no one willing to admit problem with their claim to not throttle. In an area like mine at 3 am speeds slower than dial up are plain ridiculous. 3rd day finally got someone to admit it amounts to throttling with "high use" customers. They agreed to move me back to old plan since new billing hadn't started and so far so go on old plan speeds back up and not noticeable problems.
Please be careful changing to new plan because odds are you won't notice these spped problems until after new billing begins and then no chance to get old plan back. BE AWARE. THEY WANT OLDER UDP GONE. Along with just finally booting some extremely Hugh use customers now they're coming for us with what amounts to false advertising.
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I know several people on the new unlimited, and they are getting speeds of 40 to 60 MB/s after racking up 100GB in downloads for the month. They are definitely not throttling everyone. I guess everyone's mileage varies.
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JustinChase said:
I know several people on the new unlimited, and they are getting speeds of 40 to 60 MB/s after racking up 100GB in downloads for the month. They are definitely not throttling everyone. I guess everyone's mileage varies.
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My point is what they are telling everyone isn't applicable to everyone and they have zero control once you go past billing date. I got lucky and caught it because I switched mid cycle. Please just be careful when it comes to giving up your older UDP. Also since you've pointed out others getting by I'm back to the 20-40 I used to get before the change so it looks like no I'll effects from switch back. Just be aware. They've wanted rid of the grandfathered plans for a while now and the best way would be to trick us into thinking the new plan was "basically" the same. Then after its to late to do anything BOOM you stuck with crappy speed and big bill. Anyhow just trying to warn others of the trap I fell through.