Long time since I flashed! One question?? - G2 and Desire Z General

I just ordered a HTC Desire Z and it was bought in Asia, it is unlocked. Will I be able to flash to original European ROM? Will I need to S-OFF it?
Thanks.
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You should be fine if you're using a goldcard. Mind you, the new RUU (1.72.405.2) has not been confirmed as rootable, use the original one (1.34.405.5). You can find both in the Dev forum.

I don't think you'll need S-OFF because that's an official HTC (signed) ROM. But you'll need SuperCID because I imagine the ROM won't be for your specific model (CID) of phone.
gfree gives you SuperCID, but it can do S-OFF too so you might as well do both at the same time. See the Wiki for the most up-to-date version of the procedure.
Be careful of the issue of flashing an older ROM if you do in fact have S-OFF but just through the engineering bootloader (which will need the gold card method).

Thanks for the head up guys.

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New to Magic on Rogers.. what do I need to know?

Ok, I will admit I am a total noobie with Android based phones. I have been on the Blackberry platform for years.
I just got my magic yesterday.
To my knowledge it has not been updated yet.
How would I go about seeing if it can be rooted? And what is the best way to get it rooted, if it can be?
I am an IT guy, I am not afraid to try things out, so give me some steps and I will do them ASAP.
Thanks!
1st, boot the phone by holding the back & power buttons. Tell us EXACTLY what is on the first 5 lines at the top of the screen.
From there you will know if your phone is rootable...
It says:
SAPPHIRE PVT 32A SHIP S-ON H
HBOOT-1.33.0009 (SAPP50000)
CPLD-12
RADIO-3.22.20.17
May 8 2009, 21:02:32 .
does this help?
Those specs were the same as mine. I used the Relentless Rooter software to root my phone. It was free then but you now have to pay (you can find it in the app forum).
You can also use the unlockr one click method. Check his site and video. Remember to use the instructions for 32A. Some posters wrote that they could not use this method (flashrec) to flash the latest Amon_Ra recovery and the solution was to shorten Amon_Ra's recovery's name. I know this sounds foreign language right now, but I do suggest you read and research a bit, specially the comments posted under the unlockr's method.
Once rooted, you can find various custom Roms for 32A in the developers section. Make sure the Rom fits your radio and SPL.
Oh, once rooted, I would suggest changing your SPL 1.33.009 to an engineered SPL, like mine (I use 1.33.2010). You can do a search at google or within the developers forum to find out why.
CONSIDER YOURSELF EXTREMELY FORTUNATE, you have a HTC Magic with an OLD non perfected SPL. Hell it isn't even a protected SPL you can load custom roms right away without having to flash a a new SPL.
HTC Magic with that SPL are becoming rarer by the day.
I would look into what ROMs you're interested in, if you want a 1.6 ROM, I would recommend Cyanogen 32A Port or Amon_RA's 1.6 ROM.
If you don't need 1.6 and like Sense UI (I suggest youtubing Sense UI and Stock Android to see which you prefer), CursorDroid's Sense UI ROM is in my opinion the BEST ROM available for the HTC Magic.
Cyanogen and Amon_Ra's ROM will work with your current SPL (I believe). While CursorDroid's requires you to flash the SPL and Radio of your phone. Which is a bit intimidating for novices but if your well prepared and pay close attention to instructions it's easy.
Thanks to all, I used some simple instrutions.
I now have:
6.35.10.18 Radio
1.76.2007 SPL
And I installed the CursorSense32A-1.2.6.1 rom.
This is way better.
networkdawg said:
Thanks to all, I used some simple instrutions.
I now have:
6.35.10.18 Radio
1.76.2007 SPL
And I installed the CursorSense32A-1.2.6.1 rom.
This is way better.
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Sweet, good job man.
I wish the person I bought my Rogers Magic from didnt do the update. Now I dont think I can root it
Wond3r said:
I wish the person I bought my Rogers Magic from didnt do the update. Now I dont think I can root it
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Maybe it was a new Magic which the person obtained from the HTC Dream upgrade.
Taknarosh said:
Maybe it was a new Magic which the person obtained from the HTC Dream upgrade.
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Yeah it was
Wond3r said:
Yeah it was
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Then for sure it was updated. Rogers wouldn't send out units with the bugged ROM.

what SPL is tmobile shipping?

A friend of mine is at Tmobile and is probably going to buy a MyTouch. He's asking me a buch of questions about rooting (I have a G1).. I see that SPLs above x.x.2007 are not rootable (yet) but it seems like all of the higher SPLs are being shipped outside the US - what about Tmobile?
You guys are slow today... ;-)
So he bought it. It's a 32A w/SPL 1.33.00013 and radio 2.22.23.02
What's the best way to root this phone? 1-click or goldcard?
And if anyone wants to give me the appropiate link i'd appriciate it.
Thanks
It's rootable via the goldcard method, I think. I have this phone and I have not rooted it yet, due to lack of available roms.
There's NO cyanogen, NO SenseUI of any kind, NO tethering, no custom kernels at all. You get pretty much a stock ROM with root that you can theme. NONE of the current ROMs for Magic 32b / Magic 32a without the 3.5mm headphone jack will work on the new mytouch.
Until someone comes up with the drivers that are required for a custom kernel, there won't be many ROMS available.

[Q] Debranding Vodafone UK Desire Z

hi,
do you have any suggestions how to get rid of Vodafone welcome screen when booting my desire Z?
This is my first android, so I'm totally not sure, with WM 6.5, it was easy, getting hold of new stock HTC rom or cooked rom like energy, flashing it on the phone and job done.
Is there any place where I can get hold of stock HTC sense rom for desire Z?
like shipped-roms.com/shipped/Vision
I'm bit concerned, because it says T-Mobile US...
any help and suggestions are appreciated.
thanks
There are splash screen images in the zip files for the ROMs, so I presume that you can replace them easily. I don't know the correct procedure, but if you flash as complete ROM then I imagine that'll do the job.
Talking of complete ROMs, the standard European ROM is on this forum, see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=822908 . That's an RUU, but you can run it and then extract the zip file and flash that directly if you want.
However, you need to be careful about ROM versions if you have S-OFF. If you don't have S-OFF, then it won't let you flash an earlier ROM normally, so you need to follow the "debranding" guide (not very well-named IMHO) to flash an earlier ROM. If you do have S-OFF then you must follow the debranding guide, because if you try to flash an earlier ROM from HBOOT and have S-OFF you will probably brick your phone.
If you're flashing a later ROM version then everything should be fine.
I've managed to flash the ROM from the link you provided on my Z using the gold card method.
wonderful. so much better without the Vodafone logo. Thanks a lot.

Rooting guidance needed

I'm not totally new to rooting as I have already rooted my HTC Desire.
Yesterday my daughter came to me and asked me if I could root her HTC Legend.
I'm finding this quite confusing this time around and I am unsure what guides I should be following.
The wanted end result would be a rooted HTC Legend with S-Off after that installing a custom ROM should be the same as it is on the desire so I'm fine.
her phone has HBOOT 1.0 and android 2.2 currently
Can someone please point me in the right direction for my wanted end result.
Thanks in advance
Root is possible but s off isn't with hboot 1.01 or 1 being unable to revert it to s off XD
However you can use fake flash and still be able to do the same things
Look in the legend android development thread in the sticky with references there is a guide for rooting with hboot 1.01
Mines rooted with hboot message me if you need help XD
Sent from my HTC Legend
so I use the 1.01 guide to root 1.0 ok got that.
s-off was not a really big deal I just thought it would be handy

[Q] Wildfire Questions

Hello everybody, this is my first post on this forum although I am following it for a long time (WinMO and also happy owner of an HTC Desire).
I recently bought a second phone, a Wildfire (new with the stock 2.1 ROM on it) and have few questions about it that I could not figure out in the last few days by reading the forum.
Ok so everybody knows that the stock 2.1 ROM is kind of bad, but
1)how is the 2.2.1 official release?
If I upgrade it then hboot will upgrade as well to ver.1.01 and bye bye S-Off.
2)Is it possible to first root it plus S-Off and then put the 2.2.1 official release on it?
3) will this change the hboot and block it again?
I ask all of this because I like the sense interface in htc phones. I know Jokerdroid ROM exists and uses sense and is really good.
4) In this case is it worth even trying official 2.2.1?
5) What other ROMs using Sense are there available?
Thank you everybody for help!
And sorry but I could not find the answers anywhere, but hope this thread will help others as well.
1) No difference, except updated HBoot with increased security, WiFi hotspot and Froyo Apps2SD
2) Probably, but I dunno why would you want to do that. Safe Flash ZIPs are much better, since they are the same as the official 2.2.1 release, with just the updated bootloader removed.
3) If you root and put official 2.2.1, it will be blocked. But, if you get S-OFF (Using an XTC Clip, presumably), it wont be blocked, since that S-OFF is permenant.
4) Absolutely not. There are more complaints than benefits, on this forum itself.
5) Too many to list. See here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1029318
Allex_master said:
1)how is the 2.2.1 official release?
If I upgrade it then hboot will upgrade as well to ver.1.01 and bye bye S-Off.
2)Is it possible to first root it plus S-Off and then put the 2.2.1 official release on it?
3) will this change the hboot and block it again?
I ask all of this because I like the sense interface in htc phones. I know Jokerdroid ROM exists and uses sense and is really good.
4) In this case is it worth even trying official 2.2.1?
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1). Even if u won't upgrade to 2.2.1 , there is no free S-OFF solution for wildfire yet (even for the 2.1 wildfire). Alpharev for wildfire is yet to be released. Almost all the wildfires u see S-OFF are done with paid xtc clip. And there is no software root solution yet for hboot 1.01 with S-ON.
2). Again how is S-OFF possible. If u mean it by xtc clip, u don't need to worry at all. Once done with xtc clip, u can do anything u want.
3). Again when done S-OFF with xtc clip, no blocking at all.
4). My suggestion was don't ever try upgrading to official froyo. And if u want to S-OFF by xtc clip, u can try. But personally i won't recommend u to upgrade to official froyo, and certainly i wont recommend u to go with xtc clip in a situation like this. Having a new 2.1 wildfire at the moment is really lucky. Just root with unrevoked and enjoy custom roms. Everyone of us will soon have S-OFF by alpharev.
And u know what, regarding free S-OFF solutions , the ones with hboot 1.01 have only alpharev x option (its also the root solution for these) but the ones with hboot 0.80 have both alpharev 2 and alpharev x option. Suppose, if alpharev x is released earlier (may not be), those with hboot 0.80 can upgrade to 1.01 and use it.
So practically in my case there is no need to change it to S-Off. I thought Unrevoked does this anyway.
So then why is it necessary to have S-off?
if you can root on hboot 0.80 without having S-off?
Sorry I am really confused now.
Allex_master said:
So practically in my case there is no need to change it to S-Off. I thought Unrevoked does this anyway.
So then why is it necessary to have S-off?
if you can root on hboot 0.80 without having S-off?
Sorry I am really confused now.
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Actually the point that S-OFF is highlighted for wildfire these days is just to have custom roms on hboot 1.01 (because it is hightly protected and not yet rootable)
The unrevoked for previous hboot 0.80 uses an exploit to push the custom recovery and also push the required root files (like su binary) into the system folders so that they will be re-locked in the system folders giving su permissions to the user. But this kind of exploit is not yet made for hboot 1.01 . So it is unrootable with software methods. The only present way to root it is to disable the nand protection by xtc clip (thus making the system folders writable).
And of course s-off has lot advantages over just rooting. S-OFF skips the signature check of files to be updated. Can change the splash screen. Enables the fastboot extended commands. etc..,
edit: And no. Unrevoked forever is not present for wildfire to make it S-OFF (even for hboot 0.80)
OK Thanks! That is clear for me now. I will give a try to few custom ROMs in the next few days.

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