Ok, I will admit I am a total noobie with Android based phones. I have been on the Blackberry platform for years.
I just got my magic yesterday.
To my knowledge it has not been updated yet.
How would I go about seeing if it can be rooted? And what is the best way to get it rooted, if it can be?
I am an IT guy, I am not afraid to try things out, so give me some steps and I will do them ASAP.
Thanks!
1st, boot the phone by holding the back & power buttons. Tell us EXACTLY what is on the first 5 lines at the top of the screen.
From there you will know if your phone is rootable...
It says:
SAPPHIRE PVT 32A SHIP S-ON H
HBOOT-1.33.0009 (SAPP50000)
CPLD-12
RADIO-3.22.20.17
May 8 2009, 21:02:32 .
does this help?
Those specs were the same as mine. I used the Relentless Rooter software to root my phone. It was free then but you now have to pay (you can find it in the app forum).
You can also use the unlockr one click method. Check his site and video. Remember to use the instructions for 32A. Some posters wrote that they could not use this method (flashrec) to flash the latest Amon_Ra recovery and the solution was to shorten Amon_Ra's recovery's name. I know this sounds foreign language right now, but I do suggest you read and research a bit, specially the comments posted under the unlockr's method.
Once rooted, you can find various custom Roms for 32A in the developers section. Make sure the Rom fits your radio and SPL.
Oh, once rooted, I would suggest changing your SPL 1.33.009 to an engineered SPL, like mine (I use 1.33.2010). You can do a search at google or within the developers forum to find out why.
CONSIDER YOURSELF EXTREMELY FORTUNATE, you have a HTC Magic with an OLD non perfected SPL. Hell it isn't even a protected SPL you can load custom roms right away without having to flash a a new SPL.
HTC Magic with that SPL are becoming rarer by the day.
I would look into what ROMs you're interested in, if you want a 1.6 ROM, I would recommend Cyanogen 32A Port or Amon_RA's 1.6 ROM.
If you don't need 1.6 and like Sense UI (I suggest youtubing Sense UI and Stock Android to see which you prefer), CursorDroid's Sense UI ROM is in my opinion the BEST ROM available for the HTC Magic.
Cyanogen and Amon_Ra's ROM will work with your current SPL (I believe). While CursorDroid's requires you to flash the SPL and Radio of your phone. Which is a bit intimidating for novices but if your well prepared and pay close attention to instructions it's easy.
Thanks to all, I used some simple instrutions.
I now have:
6.35.10.18 Radio
1.76.2007 SPL
And I installed the CursorSense32A-1.2.6.1 rom.
This is way better.
networkdawg said:
Thanks to all, I used some simple instrutions.
I now have:
6.35.10.18 Radio
1.76.2007 SPL
And I installed the CursorSense32A-1.2.6.1 rom.
This is way better.
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Sweet, good job man.
I wish the person I bought my Rogers Magic from didnt do the update. Now I dont think I can root it
Wond3r said:
I wish the person I bought my Rogers Magic from didnt do the update. Now I dont think I can root it
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Maybe it was a new Magic which the person obtained from the HTC Dream upgrade.
Taknarosh said:
Maybe it was a new Magic which the person obtained from the HTC Dream upgrade.
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Yeah it was
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Yeah it was
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Then for sure it was updated. Rogers wouldn't send out units with the bugged ROM.
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After using lots of hero roms I want to try out Cyanogen but have a few questions.
1. It seems this is a completely different way of flashing so the first question is, if I don't like it can I just wipe and reflash a hero rom as normal?
2. Looking here: http://developer.htc.com/google-io-device.html it looks a lot more complicated than installing a hero rom. For instance, I have HBOOT-1.33.0004 but it says you need HBOOT-1.33.3004, but doesn't seem to say how to change this?
3. Is there a better, easier guide to follow for installing this? I can't find one!
I have a...
Sapphire PVT 32B SHIP S-ON G
HBOOT-1.33.0004 (SAPP10000)
CPLD-10
RADIO-2.22.19.26I
I think the radio is already the right one for Cyanogen?
Thanks in advance for any help!
Hmmm... I've now seen a thread that says I can just wipe and flash like any other rom... Is this true?!
Come on people!
I am curious as well. If I remember correctly, it didn't work when I tried to simply flash it. I have the Google Ion (32B Magic Developer's phone). My procedure for other roms have been, rename to update.zip, wipe and then flash.
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I am curious as well. If I remember correctly, it didn't work when I tried to simply flash it. I have the Google Ion (32B Magic Developer's phone). My procedure for other roms have been, rename to update.zip, wipe and then flash.
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Thats what I did although you need to flash the HTC update first.
There are two files, one named HTC_ADP_1.6_DRC83_rooted_base
and one named update-cm-4.2.3.1-signed
You go into recovery, wipe, load the first file (HTC one), then when finished immediately load the second one (CM one), and then reboot.
The only trouble is I can't get the sodding keyboard to work!
Follow this thread...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=579328
For Thelastgoodbrother...
Best thing I ever did!
On a 32b Cyanogen is the way to go as it just can't handle the hero roms well enough for me.
My phone is now lightning quick, stable, I can update over the air (no wipes!), and i'm struggling to find any features I miss from the hero roms?... Basically its only a couple of HTC widgets difference as far as I can tell.
Its great.
Hello all,
Sorry for such a dumb question been a while since I have tinkered with my mt3g. I remember that the bluetooth don't work on hero and some stuff ran better on 32a software but for the life of me I can't find out how to do it.
I already have a root mt3g running kings droid eris port and would like bluetooth since that is what I use mainly and not working on this build so i wanted to tinker with some of the 32a ones on here. Does anyone know how to change this on the phone? If i recall correctly you fastboot the 32a radio then a 32a recovery and then what ever rom. But no sure and don't want to brick my phone.
currently has the 1.33.2005 spl showing 32b s-off h
Thank you guys.
Does anyone know any ideas. I remember can be done just can't find the steps anymore. Please help LOL
based on my understanding 32B and 32A refer to board models. 32A has more memory and better parts compared to 32B. i would advice you not to put and 32A rom on your phone(32B) as it can be unsafe.
If you need bluetooth why dont you switch to a rom that supports bt and some more? that would be the safest way.
Actually, you can do this, however, this is typically only done if you are trying to get root access with a perfected SPL. Such as 1.33.0007. But most people that do this revert back to a 32B once they flash a non perfected spl.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=547133
sombionix said:
Actually, you can do this, however, this is typically only done if you are trying to get root access with a perfected SPL. Such as 1.33.0007. But most people that do this revert back to a 32B once they flash a non perfected spl.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=547133
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Are you saying that it is possible to put a 32A rom on a 32B model? If so that would be awosome. But why other people kept on reverting back?
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Are you saying that it is possible to put a 32A rom on a 32B model? If so that would be awosome. But why other people kept on reverting back?
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if you try it, will you pm me and let me know how it worked.I would love to find out how as well.
has anyone tried this yet?
anyone?
Hey there. I've ordered an htc magic, and since it has a 288mb memory, i suppose it's the 32A version (we'll see when it gets here though).
I basically want to turn my magic into the HTC Hero (well the UI at least..) I've spent most of my day today reading about how to flash roms, which ones offer this or that, what the problems are and so on. After about 10 hours of reading, i came across this:
htc.com/hk-en/SupportViewNews.aspx?dl_id=765&news_id=355
on the HTC webpage (EDIT: please add "w w w." in front of the text as the forum won't let me insert a link)
And my first question is... What's the difference between that official rom and, say, the CursorSense32A-1.2.6.1 ROM - which i take is the most popular around here.
Just use Cursor's ROM. You won't regret it.
I'm sure it must be better. I just wanted to know basic differences...
Is CursorSense using Android 2.1 or the normal 1.5?
Cursor is using the 1.5 with SenseUI interface. If you really want the 2.1 i would recommend you check Super-Hero from ahmgsk also with SenseUI.
2.1 is most likely unstable. It's ok but I personally prefer stability. Just grab cursorsense and you basically have yourself the hero, but be careful flashing radio and spl.
KAwAtA said:
2.1 is most likely unstable. It's ok but I personally prefer stability. Just grab cursorsense and you basically have yourself the hero, but be careful flashing radio and spl.
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That was my main concern about the cursorsense and that's why i was looking for the official HTC Sense UI update. I still don't know what their difference is and what more does cursorsense offer.
I am a computer engineer, so it SHOULDN'T be that big of a deal to flash some firmware on a cell phone, i just have a lot of reading to do, which is not all in one place in a form of a tutorial or something.
If anyone has some useful links to provide, you'd save my day. Thanks a mil once again.
give us the fastboot details on your phone and I'm sure someone (including myself) can help you in the process. Just follow instructions and you should be fine but we'll guide if necessary. Lastly, is that 32A the one with the headphone jack? (If it is, I can't help you too much lol, I can point you places but that's it)
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That was my main concern about the cursorsense and that's why i was looking for the official HTC Sense UI update. I still don't know what their difference is and what more does cursorsense offer.
I am a computer engineer, so it SHOULDN'T be that big of a deal to flash some firmware on a cell phone, i just have a lot of reading to do, which is not all in one place in a form of a tutorial or something.
If anyone has some useful links to provide, you'd save my day. Thanks a mil once again.
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Not to be rude but this link was on the CursorSense thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=605239
Just follow it step by step. It doesn't take a Computer Engineer to figure it out, by the way it's written and explained.
Also, the official update flashes your radio to the 6.35 radio, so I'll say it again, just go with cursor's ROM you won't regret it.
It's fast, it has no carrier branding, it's fast, it's stable and did I mention it's fast?
I advice you against using an official rom. specially if you want to make modifications/root/hack your phone. those official roms usually fix bugs that are needed for hacky things to be done, such as gaining root.
My phone has not arrived yet so i cannot provide any more information as of now.
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I advice you against using an official rom. specially if you want to make modifications/root/hack your phone. those official roms usually fix bugs that are needed for hacky things to be done, such as gaining root.
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Okay so here is a biggie that i need help for.
I am looking into buying a used HTC Magic (32A) that is in mint condition. The seller told me, after i asked him if i can use an unofficial rom on his, that he has flashed an official rom on it and is unsure if i will be able to flash modified ROMs.
He shall provide me the SPL and Radio versions tomorrow, as well as the ROM version he is using.
What do you think i should do? In case the SPL is perfected (which i suppose is what devbro meant) is there any way to revert back to an engineering SPL and Radio (i am looking into using Cursor's ROM).
Thanks guys. And i shall be providing the Info as soon as i get it so you can help me decide.
It's called a 'perfect' SPL for a reason. Just get the Radio and SPL and post it up, we'll be able to tell at that point if it is flashable.
So here are the information guys. Please let me know if the phone is flashable:
SAPPHIRE PVT 32A SHIP S-ON H
ΗΒΟΟΤ-1.76.0009 (SΑP10000)
CPLD-12
RADIO-6.35.08.29
DEC 8 2009,17:38:48
Nope, that indeed is the perfect spl. It has not been successfully flashed yet.
So what would you do? Get another phone with a non perfected SPL, or get that one in hope that someone will find a workaround and maybe a wait for an official 2.1 eclair android update for htc magic (although i doubt it tbh).
how bad is the official htc sense ui compared to cursorsense's?
Myself, I bought a 2nd Magic, so I have 2 rootable phones.
As for the comparison between official HTC releases and Cursor....I have no idea as I've only used cooked ROM's. Both of my phones came pre-rooted, so I never had the pleasure of a stock ROM. LoL
The official 2.1 should be here in the next few months (as late as June), if you can wait, else you will need to drop the $529US+++ on a Nexus 1.
I wish i had the money for a nexus.. but i don't.
This guy is selling his HTC magic for quite cheap (200 dollars) that is seriously in mint condition (but unflashable) and i was very interested. What i really want is a phone that will be able to get the 2.1 android. HTC might not release it officially for the magic, that's what concerns me, and i was thinking if they don't i would be able to flash it myself via a custom rom.
Well then definately wait until you find one with a flashable HBOOT.
With so many people buying N1's there will be Magic's up for sale. I paid $200CND for my 2nd magic, from a local guy who bought a N1. My first magic I traded my HTC Dream for, not sure what the girl was thinking, but she didn't want the Magic and I was more then happy to trade. LoL
Well i am also thinking of getting the hero and get it over with. the hero will deffo get the 2.1 eclair.. What do you think?
I've never even seen a Hero, let alone used one.
My Magic looks like this:
Sapphire PVT 32A SHIP S-ON H
HBOOT-1.33.0014 (SAPP10000)
CPLD-12
RADIO-3.22.23.18
I've been reading this and other forums for awhile now trying to find a "simple" way to get froyo on it but cant seem to find one, there's just too many options and possibilities for my little head to handle.
So now a few questions:
I heard you could overclock it, is it worth it and will it be stable?
Is it even possible to get froyo on it without following a 1mil step guide?
And considering the above to be "yes" the magic question all noobs ask... How?
All the radio and root stuff confuses me, if only it could be done with just a random rom and not having to do anything else
PS. Yes i know others ask about roms often but i have been reading about it for so long now without getting anywhere, i have to get some clear answers to get anywhere...
-The OC dosent give you any mind blowing performance increase (better performance is only noticable with certain games), 576 mhz is stable, other I don't know, your phone will not melt or anything (on 576).
- for any new magic (android) phone you must do a rather "long" procedure before you can start flashing stuff.
- read the whole 32A wiki, also read part 2
- read how to flash radio and spl
- Look into rom bible for roms you might like
- I would recommend cyanogen mod 5.0.8 (2.1) to use as a daily rom, froyo has many bugs
- and don't be hasty, read the wiki again if yu have to, almost every thing is explained there
- don't brick your phone!
happy flashing
"Perfect" SPL Revisions (which prevent us hacking)
Currently HBOOT-1.33.0006, HBOOT-1.33.0010 and HBOOT-1.33.0014 are the known 'Perfect SPL' revisions on the Sapphire handsets that we know of.
It is not possible to fastboot a ROM if you have one of these SPLs; you need to wait until someone has hacked it.
Edit (12 Aug 2009) : Now you can! Refer to "blabla cant post link i'm new user"
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Seems i have a perfect SPL, have somebody developed an easy fix for that?
Quoting the link:
Proceed on your own risk, you might brick your phone!!!
This method is written for the original MT3G back in 2009, DONT USE IT on the Fender/MT3G 1.2!!!
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Got no clue what Fender/MT3G 1.2 is...
Fender is the limited edition myTouch that T-Mobile marketed and he 1.2 is the mytouch's with the 3.5mm jack on top. Since you've got a perfected SPL, the goldcard method is about the only way to root it, AFAIK.
Sent from my HTC Magic using XDA App
I have a Mytouch 3G with the 3.5mm jack.
FASTBOOT Specs:
SAPPHIRE PVT 32A SHIP S-ON G
HBOOT-1.33.0013 (SAPP31000)
CPLD-13
RADIO-2.22.23.02
Oct 21 2009,22:33:27
When I bought the phone (used) it came with 2.2.1
I was able to root the phone by downgrading to 1.6 using HBOOT and then using Universal Androot. I then installed Amon_RA's recovery (RA-sapphire-v1.7.0) using Rom manager.
I want to install Ginger yoshi but I don't understand the information regarding the SPL and the Radio.
I tried installing an Engineering SPL using the recovery mode but this caused the phone to stop booting either normally or to recovery. I had reinstall 1.6 using HBOOT and perform the rooting process all over again.
Do I need to change anything regarding the SPL and Radio in order to install Ginger yoshi or for it to work better?
Is there a different kernel I need to flash in order for it work or work better?
I realize a lot of this is addressed in various posts but I feel I've gotten too close to bricking for comfort and I need some advice specific to my situation.
Edit: I'm not at all set on using Ginger yoshi. I'm totally open to suggestions as far as Roms. I'd prefer a GB rom that's as fast as possible.
Changing the radio on your phone will have little to no effect on anything. Changing the spl will give you a not fully functional device.
If you want to use Ginger yoshi then yo will have to flash another kernel after. They have one in their download folder. The fender one.
A lot of roms (ezgingerbread ad cos are the ones i use) use autokernel so you don't have to deal with that
Oh also I think ezgb is much faster than the others probably beause it doesn't have all the cyanogenmod features (bloat). light and fast
tvall said:
Changing the radio on your phone will have little to no effect on anything. Changing the spl will give you a not fully functional device.
If you want to use Ginger yoshi then yo will have to flash another kernel after. They have one in their download folder. The fender one.
A lot of roms (ezgingerbread ad cos are the ones i use) use autokernel so you don't have to deal with that
Oh also I think ezgb is much faster than the others probably beause it doesn't have all the cyanogenmod features (bloat). light and fast
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Thank you very much for your response. I'm probably going to install ezgingerbread but I have one question first. Do you know what the ginger yoshi post means when it says:
RADIO AND SPL INFO
for 32b you need SPL 1.33.0013d and RADIO 2.22.28.25 or 27.08
for 32a you need SPL 1.33.2010 or 1.33.2009 and RADIO you will need the old radio(3.22)
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That's the part that got me confused. Can I just ignore that?
Edit: Is this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9987696&postcount=2 the best (only?) source for ezgb binaries?
haddiman said:
Thank you very much for your response. I'm probably going to install ezgingerbread but I have one question first. Do you know what the ginger yoshi post means when it says:
That's the part that got me confused. Can I just ignore that?
Edit: Is this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9987696&postcount=2 the best (only?) source for ezgb binaries?
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Yes and yes I think.. haven't actually opened the link to check. Lazy