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Applying my first ROM - Please Advise..

OK so I've been doing my research and figured out what I wanted to flash my Magic with. Before I get into that though, for reference - here is my version info:
SAPPHIRE PVT 32A SHIP S-ON H
HBOOT-1.33.0009 SAPP50000
CPLD-12
RADIO-3.22.20.17
May 8 2009,21:02:32​
Now, I am planning to use the following recovery:
[Recovery] [32A & 32B] [08-Dec-2009] RA-sapphire-v1.5.1
And flash the following rom:
[ROM][32A][Nov07] MyHero 2.0.5 with Official SenceUI on HTC Kernel 2.6.27
As far as I can tell I won't need to install a different SPL?
These are the steps I am planning to take:
Backup all my apps and APN details
Use fastboot to boot the recovery rom
Make a backup of my current rom
Wipe data
Copy new rom to SD and flash it
This list seems almost too simple though, I feel like I am forgetting something.. can anyone with more experience than me (I am a complete rookie) please check this and let me know if I'm missing something?
Also, any hints and/or tips would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you!

Come on... anyone?

Of the 78 views is there really no one with any input? Really I'm just looking for some simple feedback.. if all I said seems correct to you, please let me know. I am holding off flashing my phone for the first time to be sure that I got all the details right.
Thanks so much for who ever takes their time to respond.

Looks OK for me.
The only thing i can't remember when a exactly i copied the update.zip file.
For the rest, it's ok. No need the SPL. I've got the same rom.

You can go for it, the procedure you describe is OK. Too simple? Sure it is but who said it wasn't?
My only advice would be to prefer Magic GyD over MyHero but it's a matter of taste, I guess (also Redglasses seems to have left the building while GyD is still active... we can therefore still get answers to our questions and even bugfixes if needed)
Happy flashing and as said before there's no real need to change your SPL yet, both mentioned ROMs will flash and work fine using this one.

Thanks for your replies guys, I flashed it yesterday and everything worked fine
swissp, any convincing reasons to switch to "GyD" ? I assume it also runs Android 1.5?

Yes, all fully working SenseUI ROMs run on 1.5
I have no really convincing reason to tell you to switch but I'm using Magic GyD because I feel, after trying MyHero, CaSense and GyD, that it's the "closest to bugfree" custom SenseUI ROM available for 32A. The devs will probably stop there because 2.0 is coming and these ROMs will keep their pros and cons. It's unlikely that MyHero 2.xx will ever get its Market bug fixed, for example. Case also said he will probably not develop his ROM further.
I really hope they can get the camera working with 2.0 soon because that's the only reason I'm staying away from it at the moment.

I gotta say, I've been using MyHero for a full day now and I haven't run into a single bug yet. I do have to terminate all background apps once I start to run +/- 5 or more but that's not a big deal imo.
My only complaint is that it isn't runnin on 1.6

New to Magic on Rogers.. what do I need to know?

Ok, I will admit I am a total noobie with Android based phones. I have been on the Blackberry platform for years.
I just got my magic yesterday.
To my knowledge it has not been updated yet.
How would I go about seeing if it can be rooted? And what is the best way to get it rooted, if it can be?
I am an IT guy, I am not afraid to try things out, so give me some steps and I will do them ASAP.
Thanks!

1st, boot the phone by holding the back & power buttons. Tell us EXACTLY what is on the first 5 lines at the top of the screen.
From there you will know if your phone is rootable...

It says:
SAPPHIRE PVT 32A SHIP S-ON H
HBOOT-1.33.0009 (SAPP50000)
CPLD-12
RADIO-3.22.20.17
May 8 2009, 21:02:32 .
does this help?

Those specs were the same as mine. I used the Relentless Rooter software to root my phone. It was free then but you now have to pay (you can find it in the app forum).
You can also use the unlockr one click method. Check his site and video. Remember to use the instructions for 32A. Some posters wrote that they could not use this method (flashrec) to flash the latest Amon_Ra recovery and the solution was to shorten Amon_Ra's recovery's name. I know this sounds foreign language right now, but I do suggest you read and research a bit, specially the comments posted under the unlockr's method.
Once rooted, you can find various custom Roms for 32A in the developers section. Make sure the Rom fits your radio and SPL.
Oh, once rooted, I would suggest changing your SPL 1.33.009 to an engineered SPL, like mine (I use 1.33.2010). You can do a search at google or within the developers forum to find out why.

CONSIDER YOURSELF EXTREMELY FORTUNATE, you have a HTC Magic with an OLD non perfected SPL. Hell it isn't even a protected SPL you can load custom roms right away without having to flash a a new SPL.
HTC Magic with that SPL are becoming rarer by the day.
I would look into what ROMs you're interested in, if you want a 1.6 ROM, I would recommend Cyanogen 32A Port or Amon_RA's 1.6 ROM.
If you don't need 1.6 and like Sense UI (I suggest youtubing Sense UI and Stock Android to see which you prefer), CursorDroid's Sense UI ROM is in my opinion the BEST ROM available for the HTC Magic.
Cyanogen and Amon_Ra's ROM will work with your current SPL (I believe). While CursorDroid's requires you to flash the SPL and Radio of your phone. Which is a bit intimidating for novices but if your well prepared and pay close attention to instructions it's easy.

Thanks to all, I used some simple instrutions.
I now have:
6.35.10.18 Radio
1.76.2007 SPL
And I installed the CursorSense32A-1.2.6.1 rom.
This is way better.

networkdawg said:
Thanks to all, I used some simple instrutions.
I now have:
6.35.10.18 Radio
1.76.2007 SPL
And I installed the CursorSense32A-1.2.6.1 rom.
This is way better.
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Sweet, good job man.

I wish the person I bought my Rogers Magic from didnt do the update. Now I dont think I can root it

Wond3r said:
I wish the person I bought my Rogers Magic from didnt do the update. Now I dont think I can root it
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Maybe it was a new Magic which the person obtained from the HTC Dream upgrade.

Taknarosh said:
Maybe it was a new Magic which the person obtained from the HTC Dream upgrade.
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Yeah it was

Wond3r said:
Yeah it was
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Then for sure it was updated. Rogers wouldn't send out units with the bugged ROM.

Can anyone point me in the right direction so i can learn how to flash CM6?

cyanogenmod [dot] com/home/cyanogenmod-6-0-0-rc1
forum.xda-developers [dot] com/showthread.php?t=722801
Ive had my HTC Magic (Rogers with HTC sense and 32A) for just over a month now and ive been really looking forward to hacking my phone and putting all those nice custom roms.
But the thing is, i cant seem to get a proper understanding of what the heck i do first. Ive been searching for a while and all i seem to find are guides for already experienced users. All the "easy to read" guides are out dated and seem to be for the other magics and not the Rogers one for HTC sense.
So since hte new CM6 Froyo rom is out for the magic, i figured ill actually make a topic this time and try to figure out what to do. If anyone can offer me some help, it would be greatly appreciated!
My phone info:
SAPPHIRE PVT 32A SHIP S-ON H
HBOOT-1.76.0010 (SAPP50000)
CPLD-12
RADIO-6.35.10.18
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I'm in the exact same boat here, I've got a Rogers Magic with the same radio + SPL.
From what I've gathered, this guide seems to be what applies most closely to us: wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=Full_Update_Guide_-_G1/Dream/Magic32A_Firmware_to_CyanogenMod#6.35.x_Radios
(sorry as new user it won't let me post a real link )
I would love to get Froyo on my phone too, as waiting for Rogers to release updates is proving to be very frustrating (and surely they will be polluted with garbage Rogers "apps" anyway).
I've still got just over 2 years left on my contract and can not really afford to brick my phone, so anything I try I'll have to be pretty confident that it should work :S. Let me know if you find anything further zoltrix, I'll be sure to do the same!

|Black_BoX| said:
I'm in the exact same boat here, I've got a Rogers Magic with the same radio + SPL.
From what I've gathered, this guide seems to be what applies most closely to us: wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=Full_Update_Guide_-_G1/Dream/Magic32A_Firmware_to_CyanogenMod#6.35.x_Radios
(sorry as new user it won't let me post a real link )
I would love to get Froyo on my phone too, as waiting for Rogers to release updates is proving to be very frustrating (and surely they will be polluted with garbage Rogers "apps" anyway).
I've still got just over 2 years left on my contract and can not really afford to brick my phone, so anything I try I'll have to be pretty confident that it should work :S. Let me know if you find anything further zoltrix, I'll be sure to do the same!
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Hmm, well that looks alright. Im sure its a lot harder than it seems. Ill give it a go once some advanced android users can confirm that's what we need to do.
Thanks for the link!

Alright well i tried to setup adb which led me here:
www [dot] mydigitallife [dot] info/2009/08/24/workaround-for-htc-hero-sync-problem-in-windows-7/
now i tried playing around with HTC sync, and now my phone does nothing once connected via usb to my laptop.
I get no notification telling me i need to mount my sd card. I tried different cords, different ports and different computers. Tried fooling around with the settings on my phone and i still get nothing.
What did i do?!

Same boat as the guys above. I have experience in rooting the g1 but this mytouch 3g uses different radios and spl's from what I'm used to and I wanna make sure I upgrade it correctly and not brick the phone. If someone could just post a quick step by step that on how to upgrade to CM6 it would be much appreciated! BTW I have already rooted the device and managed to get CM 5.0.8 up and running but after I flashed CM6 the device just sits on the Mytouch screen.
My Devices is:
Sapphire PVT 32B SHIP S-ON G
HBOOT-1.33.0006(SAPP30000)
CPLD-10
RADIO-2.22.19.26I
Thanks for your help

For the guys with the Rogers 32A's...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=627384&highlight=Rogers
To the dude with the MyTouch.....sorry.

And this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=713878

nice links. which should i lookat first? the ones posted by black_box or the ones posted by tbrummell?
Also, anyone know why my phone wont promt me to mount the sd card when i plug it into my computer anymore?
i was thinking about doing a factory wipe incase i messed up a setting, but i dont know how to back up my data!

zoltrix, I got mine rooted and a 2.2 ROM up and running!
Essentially I followed this guide: rootyourmagic32a.blogspot.com/2010/04/root-htc-magic.html
Is it pretty much identical to the steps in the "6.35" section of the guide I posted in my earlier post (except it continues further to revert radio down, which I didn't want to do with the ROM I chose.)
The toughest parts for me really were getting the goldcard created (the process itself wasn't difficult, but it didn't work properly until the 3rd SD card I tried using), and getting HTC Sync to connect properly while try to run the RUU update.
I chose the FroyoRider 0.6 ROM - everything seems to be working pretty well except the is no support for the camera/video recording, hopefully that will come in a later version.
Just figured I'd let you know since we've got identical phones and it can be hard to find relevant information on these forums without digging around for hours. If you have any questions/problems let me know I'll answer the best I can.

alright man, good to hear!
ill def do it as soon as i get my replacement phone
my usb port only charges and refuses to transfer data..

woo, i got my replacement.
i'll probably try to root it this weekend
Just a question, but is a Nandroid backup the same idea as an OS image on a computer? Once you restore the image/backup its back to how it was befor any changes?
And can i make a nandroid backup before rooting anything or installing a new rom?

Yes, Nandroid is similar to taking a snapshot image of a pc with Ghost or Acronis, or something similar.
Here is a new procedure to root, looks damn simple too:
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=Full_Update_Guide_-_Rogers_Dream_911_Patched
No, you cannot take a Nandroid image until you have the custom recovery installed. And once you do that your phone is wiped and the original OS is gone.

tbrummell said:
Yes, Nandroid is similar to taking a snapshot image of a pc with Ghost or Acronis, or something similar.
Here is a new procedure to root, looks damn simple too:
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=Full_Update_Guide_-_Rogers_Dream_911_Patched
No, you cannot take a Nandroid image until you have the custom recovery installed. And once you do that your phone is wiped and the original OS is gone.
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Wow i was literally just bout to use the goldcard method. I made the card and anything.
Ill follow that. Thanks! Also, now that i have the goldcard made, i can still use it as a normal SD card right? OR should i reformat it first?

I'd reformat it first.

Cool
Also, can you someone look over that wiki link and confirm its correct for a ROGERS Magic? Im reading about it and comparing to the Blogspot tutorial and they use two differnt eng spl's?
EDIT: It also has a part telling me to "COnfirm i have the 3.x radio" when in fact, all Roger's magic's have 6.x

SO i posted the same question in the topic about the new hacking method and this is the response i got:
ezterry said:
Good thing the process is for the DREAM not the magic.. because otherwise I'd be doing something really risky installing a 1.33.* SPL with the 6.x radio..
If you want to root the magic either use the signed leaked rom with a gold card like every one else:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5526163&postcount=1
Or be a dare devil and risk the Magic (w/ 6.x radio) version of the exploid hack:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7340733&postcount=306
(In theory it will get root.. the question is did I miss something in the process having not used a rogers magic myself.
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So, do NOT do that if you are using hte Magic because it is for the Dream. Instead use hte gold card.
Now i have to redo my goldcard!

[Q] The usual... :)

My Magic looks like this:
Sapphire PVT 32A SHIP S-ON H
HBOOT-1.33.0014 (SAPP10000)
CPLD-12
RADIO-3.22.23.18
I've been reading this and other forums for awhile now trying to find a "simple" way to get froyo on it but cant seem to find one, there's just too many options and possibilities for my little head to handle.
So now a few questions:
I heard you could overclock it, is it worth it and will it be stable?
Is it even possible to get froyo on it without following a 1mil step guide?
And considering the above to be "yes" the magic question all noobs ask... How?
All the radio and root stuff confuses me, if only it could be done with just a random rom and not having to do anything else
PS. Yes i know others ask about roms often but i have been reading about it for so long now without getting anywhere, i have to get some clear answers to get anywhere...

-The OC dosent give you any mind blowing performance increase (better performance is only noticable with certain games), 576 mhz is stable, other I don't know, your phone will not melt or anything (on 576).
- for any new magic (android) phone you must do a rather "long" procedure before you can start flashing stuff.
- read the whole 32A wiki, also read part 2
- read how to flash radio and spl
- Look into rom bible for roms you might like
- I would recommend cyanogen mod 5.0.8 (2.1) to use as a daily rom, froyo has many bugs
- and don't be hasty, read the wiki again if yu have to, almost every thing is explained there
- don't brick your phone!
happy flashing

"Perfect" SPL Revisions (which prevent us hacking)
Currently HBOOT-1.33.0006, HBOOT-1.33.0010 and HBOOT-1.33.0014 are the known 'Perfect SPL' revisions on the Sapphire handsets that we know of.
It is not possible to fastboot a ROM if you have one of these SPLs; you need to wait until someone has hacked it.
Edit (12 Aug 2009) : Now you can! Refer to "blabla cant post link i'm new user"
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Seems i have a perfect SPL, have somebody developed an easy fix for that?
Quoting the link:
Proceed on your own risk, you might brick your phone!!!
This method is written for the original MT3G back in 2009, DONT USE IT on the Fender/MT3G 1.2!!!
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Got no clue what Fender/MT3G 1.2 is...

Fender is the limited edition myTouch that T-Mobile marketed and he 1.2 is the mytouch's with the 3.5mm jack on top. Since you've got a perfected SPL, the goldcard method is about the only way to root it, AFAIK.
Sent from my HTC Magic using XDA App

Recovery Mode / ROM Flash help...

Searched & not found a solution...Sorry if this is in wrong thread.
I have a MT3G 1.2 (32A) --> Stock ROM, just rooted it.
Trying to install CyanogenMod ROM --> I boot into recovery mode and get the big Triangle with the yellow exclamation point above the image of a phone.
I am new to android development/hacking, and have read a lot, but can't seem to figure out what this issue is.
I can pull the battery & reboot no problem, and can boot into fastboot no problem. This ROM apparently has to be done via recovery mode, which I'm still trying to figure out, hence my issue.
I've found some awesome step-by-step instructions on how to root & do other things, but I seem to get a bit confused when trying to follow the step-by-steps of installing a custom ROM....even following: http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.ph...anogenMod_5+ The issue for me is when am I entering data on the phone & when am I doing it on my PC TO the phone via shell, etc.
Any help ... a link to a tutorial I've missed or explanation as to why I'm getting the jacked icon on my phone would be greatly appreciated.
HBOOT: 1.33.0013
CPLD 13
Radio 2.22.23.02
Currently stock 1.6 ROM
DYING to get updated stuff....missing the Exchange sync of my HD2 (btw, anyone want to buy a perfectly good HD2 with cracked screen? touch still works, etc.)

tbonezx11 said:
Searched & not found a solution...Sorry if this is in wrong thread.
I have a MT3G 1.2 (32A) --> Stock ROM, just rooted it.
Trying to install CyanogenMod ROM --> I boot into recovery mode and get the big Triangle with the yellow exclamation point above the image of a phone.
I am new to android development/hacking, and have read a lot, but can't seem to figure out what this issue is.
I can pull the battery & reboot no problem, and can boot into fastboot no problem. This ROM apparently has to be done via recovery mode, which I'm still trying to figure out, hence my issue.
I've found some awesome step-by-step instructions on how to root & do other things, but I seem to get a bit confused when trying to follow the step-by-steps of installing a custom ROM....even following: http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.ph...anogenMod_5+ The issue for me is when am I entering data on the phone & when am I doing it on my PC TO the phone via shell, etc.
Any help ... a link to a tutorial I've missed or explanation as to why I'm getting the jacked icon on my phone would be greatly appreciated.
HBOOT: 1.33.0013
CPLD 13
Radio 2.22.23.02
Currently stock 1.6 ROM
DYING to get updated stuff....missing the Exchange sync of my HD2 (btw, anyone want to buy a perfectly good HD2 with cracked screen? touch still works, etc.)
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First... wrong section. Your post belongs in General because it's not Development related.
Second... you just need to flash a custom recovery. Use Amon_Ra's 1.7.0G or ClockworkMod recovery for Google devices.
By the way... I want to make this clear. You do NOT have a 32A phone! You have a 32B. Even though it says 32A, the only thing that it 32A is the amount of memory. You need 32B kernels, radios, roms, etc.

Thanks Bin...sorry for wrong section...
Question: So how on earth would I know I don't have the 32A & need to use 32B ROMs, etc.
This is the Tmobile MT3G with 3.5 mm jack (not fender edition)...When I power up with the vol down, it EVEN SAYS "Sapphire PVT 32A Ship S-On G
By that theory, I should be able to just use the Tmobile update that came out for the 32B, right? Everything I've read says that's NOT the case. Please help me understand this before I go bricking my phone by flashing wrong combo of stuff...
Thanks!

tbonezx11 said:
Thanks Bin...sorry for wrong section...
Question: So how on earth would I know I don't have the 32A & need to use 32B ROMs, etc.
This is the Tmobile MT3G with 3.5 mm jack (not fender edition)...When I power up with the vol down, it EVEN SAYS "Sapphire PVT 32A Ship S-On G
By that theory, I should be able to just use the Tmobile update that came out for the 32B, right? Everything I've read says that's NOT the case. Please help me understand this before I go bricking my phone by flashing wrong combo of stuff...
Thanks!
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Nope... probably not. Because the normal 32B device have a different memory map and different drivers (touch screen and headphone jack) the OTA for 32B devices may not work either. Also our devices have twice as much RAM that is only available in kernels that are built specifically for 32A devices that use 32B radios. The only device like that is the one you're using. Otherwise if you use a 32B rom that isn't built specifically for your type of device you only get half of the ram. Hey, you have the same device as I do.... and I bought it (via upgrade) when it came out. Now I have to wait another 12+ months before I can do another upgrade. Obviously, I regret doing it. You have two options, flash a custom rom from the G1 section, or unroot and wait for the official OTA. Unfortunately I have lost interest in this device and am waiting to either purchase the MyTouch 4G or the Nexus S at full price when the prices drop a little. Until then, like you, I'm stuck.

Thanks again Bin! Yeah, I got this phone off ebay for $100 last month after dropping my HD2 - I don't qualify for an upgrade until end of February -- I'm hoping something really fun is announced at CES in a couple weeks. I love the nexus S, but am not getting a phone that doesn't support HSPA+ !!! Same reason I wouldn't get the HD7 -- maybe the rumors will be true & we'll get the dual-core LG Optimus 2X !!!! THat's a sweet lil piece of hardware.
Anyway, back to this phone...alright so you're telling me that none of the 32A ROMS will work on this phone either? THat might explain why I've been having trouble installing custom ROMs - I am rooted & have ClockWorkMod's recovery.
I tried flashing the newest cyanogenmod ROM (update-cm-6.1.0=DS-signened.zip and the kernel but it didn't work & I tried the 2.2.1_Frg83D-32a.zip ROM too...both locked up & I had to recover...
Not asking you what ROM I should install, but which ones have worked & you like? Are you saying the G1 ROMs will work on this phone/battery, etc.?
Or should I switch the SPL/Radio combo that my phone says it has to install other 32A ROMs? I'm really confused now.
Thanks for your help!!!
WOW, I didn't WIPE before I installed the ROM...that solved my problem...now time to play with my new phone toys....thanks again for your help!!!

tbonezx11 said:
Thanks again Bin! Yeah, I got this phone off ebay for $100 last month after dropping my HD2 - I don't qualify for an upgrade until end of February -- I'm hoping something really fun is announced at CES in a couple weeks. I love the nexus S, but am not getting a phone that doesn't support HSPA+ !!! Same reason I wouldn't get the HD7 -- maybe the rumors will be true & we'll get the dual-core LG Optimus 2X !!!! THat's a sweet lil piece of hardware.
Anyway, back to this phone...alright so you're telling me that none of the 32A ROMS will work on this phone either? THat might explain why I've been having trouble installing custom ROMs - I am rooted & have ClockWorkMod's recovery.
I tried flashing the newest cyanogenmod ROM (update-cm-6.1.0=DS-signened.zip and the kernel but it didn't work & I tried the 2.2.1_Frg83D-32a.zip ROM too...both locked up & I had to recover...
Not asking you what ROM I should install, but which ones have worked & you like? Are you saying the G1 ROMs will work on this phone/battery, etc.?
Or should I switch the SPL/Radio combo that my phone says it has to install other 32A ROMs? I'm really confused now.
Thanks for your help!!!
WOW, I didn't WIPE before I installed the ROM...that solved my problem...now time to play with my new phone toys....thanks again for your help!!!
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No problem. Just stick with 32B roms and don't bother changing your radio or spl. Too much work for little (if any) accomplishment.

If you want to flash CM6.1, be careful of what you do to the radios / spl... you need a specific version of these to be compatible with CM (unless you start looking at specialized kernels...)
I think the CM wiki mentions which versions are compatible....