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[HTC Magic 32A] Different rooting methods are NOT working

NB: As my account is a new one I have not been allowed to post URL links, will update once I am allowed to do that!
Android Phone Info
SAPPHIRE PVT 32A SHIP S-ON H
HBOOT-1.76.0007 (SAPP10000)
CPLD-12
RADIO-6.35.07.29
Background
I bought my HTC Magic in Singapore (through SingTel) about 6 months ago. About a month ago I used the HTC software ROM update to update my HTC Android 1.5 to HTC Sense UI 1.5 (NB: the android firmware version remained the same but I am now using HTCs Sense UI).
I finally decided to root yesterday and since then the problems have begun!
Just so things were "clean" I restored my phone to factory settings. However, I cannot figure out how to go back to the stock 1.5 (ie. the one that DOES NOT use Sense UI). So, now I am on a basic (without any modifications) version of Sense UI.
One-Click Method
I then tried this to root my phone with the 1-click method
When I click on “Backup recovery image” I got the “Failed” message. So, I clicked on the hidden asterix and tried to flash the image but I got the same message again. Essentially, this did not work for me. I posted on the comment thread (just yesterday) but have not gotten a response on it yet.
Method on XDA Forum
Then I looked around and found this more "complicated" method and found an HTC Sapphire Hacking wiki post which seemed easy enough to follow.
I generally use linux but just to be sure I followed the guide to the letter I booted up XP.
Everything worked fine until I got to this command: C:\AndroidSDK> fastboot boot recovery-rom.img
I got the following error message: fastboot failed, remote: not allow
Solutions?
I have looked all over this forum and a few others and have found this can be because of the "perfected SPL", however, as far as I know my SPL is 1.76.0007 and NOT the 1.33 "problem" SPLs.
I have NO idea what I should do now. I really want to root my phone but I am completely stuck as the simple method does not work, nor does the "complex" method
Any help on this matter would be very much appreciated

HTC Magic 32A
The same issues with me, i am currently stuck with the Sense UI with no way to root my magic and i have tried everything possible.
If you find a solution please do let me know

Is yours singtel? I think the updated Sense UI rom may have blocked it. I can't find a way of getting back to the stock rom.

I am not sure if it is singtel, but when I first got it before installing the sense rom, the boot screen says AirTel. I am not sure if this is the same but that's what I see.
There is nothing wrong with the Sense UI rom but I just need to have root.
Anyway I will keep looking for solution because I am sure that one of these developers will eventually find a way to root but till then I might just get the nexus one. From what am hearing and reading the phone is pretty simple to unlock and root.

Don't really want to buy a new phone just to root!
Airtel may be from India

Yeh, I think it is from there because I few forums I have visited mentioned India.
Well am not only getting the nexus one for the root capabilities, is just that the performance of the phone is amazing and I am a loyal fan/customer to HTC and Android and I cant wait to have one of that bad boy for myself.

perfected spl me thinks

Do you think? But, I thought it was only certain 1.33 builds?

Can no-one help with rooting my phone?
I have the weekend and I'd be willing to try something complicated.
Actually Singtel has given 12gb free data per month which means that wifi tethering is a really reasonable option and I want to set this up. Hence, I would really like the ability to root my phone.

There's (as for now) no way to root that SPL.

yeah same here,im also from singapore and having problems rooting.
could one of you technology gurus help us out?
seems like a waste if we cant root this phone =(

Wouldn't say it's a waste haha. But, I would like to use 1.6 (and then later 2.1) and also perhaps use tethering and other cool features!

PurpleFries said:
This is how i got mine working from perfected spl->custom rom
If you want a different rom, dont follow the last 2 links, and find whatever you want to flash, after the first 2 links you will have a non-perfected spl and be able to flash whatever your heart desires.
There are easier ways to do this if you are not running windows 7. Apparently theres a way using htc sync, but i cant get it working, even with all of the fixes that people have claimed work for them
PurpleFries said:
u can have a sense ui running on 1.5, if you are only concerned with how it looks. Just flash the cursorsence rom, if u have 32a phone. ensure u dont have a perfect spl. If you did the rogers dream->magic switch, likely you have a 32a phone with 1.33.0010 perfect spl. you must get rid of this first.
here's some links to help you out as i did this process yesterday. took me a helluva long time.
Goldcard Method
Fix perfected spl using this goldcard
MAKE SURE YOU HAVE THE RIGHT RADIO AND SPL!!!!!.
Radio and spl upgrade
Cursorsence
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For the video in that link, watch up until the point where he tests the goldcard by putting it back into his computer to see if it opens. You don't need to follow his instructions past there
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This is a direct copypasta of one of my other posts, so sorry if some of it doesnt have anythign to do with you.
Just follow the guide in the second link after making a goldcard using the video in the first link.
MAKE SURE TO FOLLOW EVERYTHING EXACTLY!!!!!

Will that goldcard method work? I mean I know there are never any guarantees but I'd like a general idea if you can manage it of whether it'll work or not. Don't really want to waste hours on it as it seems REALLY complicated!

abhiroopb said:
Will that goldcard method work? I mean I know there are never any guarantees but I'd like a general idea if you can manage it of whether it'll work or not. Don't really want to waste hours on it as it seems REALLY complicated!
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It doesn't work so don't waste your time. I've tried

Is there NO method to root this at all?

my touch 3g fender need root
hello over the past couple of days I seen many ways to root the 32a but I tried and still no luck.Does anyone have a guaranteed way of getting this working.I thought the process was going to be simple.To jailbreak a Iphone all you all to do is donwload the software and click on the file that simple why can't teh android platform be the same

ermm same as me ... using same version but mine is Malaysia unit

New to Magic on Rogers.. what do I need to know?

Ok, I will admit I am a total noobie with Android based phones. I have been on the Blackberry platform for years.
I just got my magic yesterday.
To my knowledge it has not been updated yet.
How would I go about seeing if it can be rooted? And what is the best way to get it rooted, if it can be?
I am an IT guy, I am not afraid to try things out, so give me some steps and I will do them ASAP.
Thanks!

1st, boot the phone by holding the back & power buttons. Tell us EXACTLY what is on the first 5 lines at the top of the screen.
From there you will know if your phone is rootable...

It says:
SAPPHIRE PVT 32A SHIP S-ON H
HBOOT-1.33.0009 (SAPP50000)
CPLD-12
RADIO-3.22.20.17
May 8 2009, 21:02:32 .
does this help?

Those specs were the same as mine. I used the Relentless Rooter software to root my phone. It was free then but you now have to pay (you can find it in the app forum).
You can also use the unlockr one click method. Check his site and video. Remember to use the instructions for 32A. Some posters wrote that they could not use this method (flashrec) to flash the latest Amon_Ra recovery and the solution was to shorten Amon_Ra's recovery's name. I know this sounds foreign language right now, but I do suggest you read and research a bit, specially the comments posted under the unlockr's method.
Once rooted, you can find various custom Roms for 32A in the developers section. Make sure the Rom fits your radio and SPL.
Oh, once rooted, I would suggest changing your SPL 1.33.009 to an engineered SPL, like mine (I use 1.33.2010). You can do a search at google or within the developers forum to find out why.

CONSIDER YOURSELF EXTREMELY FORTUNATE, you have a HTC Magic with an OLD non perfected SPL. Hell it isn't even a protected SPL you can load custom roms right away without having to flash a a new SPL.
HTC Magic with that SPL are becoming rarer by the day.
I would look into what ROMs you're interested in, if you want a 1.6 ROM, I would recommend Cyanogen 32A Port or Amon_RA's 1.6 ROM.
If you don't need 1.6 and like Sense UI (I suggest youtubing Sense UI and Stock Android to see which you prefer), CursorDroid's Sense UI ROM is in my opinion the BEST ROM available for the HTC Magic.
Cyanogen and Amon_Ra's ROM will work with your current SPL (I believe). While CursorDroid's requires you to flash the SPL and Radio of your phone. Which is a bit intimidating for novices but if your well prepared and pay close attention to instructions it's easy.

Thanks to all, I used some simple instrutions.
I now have:
6.35.10.18 Radio
1.76.2007 SPL
And I installed the CursorSense32A-1.2.6.1 rom.
This is way better.

networkdawg said:
Thanks to all, I used some simple instrutions.
I now have:
6.35.10.18 Radio
1.76.2007 SPL
And I installed the CursorSense32A-1.2.6.1 rom.
This is way better.
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Sweet, good job man.

I wish the person I bought my Rogers Magic from didnt do the update. Now I dont think I can root it

Wond3r said:
I wish the person I bought my Rogers Magic from didnt do the update. Now I dont think I can root it
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Maybe it was a new Magic which the person obtained from the HTC Dream upgrade.

Taknarosh said:
Maybe it was a new Magic which the person obtained from the HTC Dream upgrade.
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Yeah it was

Wond3r said:
Yeah it was
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Then for sure it was updated. Rogers wouldn't send out units with the bugged ROM.

HTC Magic (Vodafone) - Sense? How? - Help Plz :/

Hi,
I've taken the plunge and finally moved from Windows Mobile to Andriod - picked up a HTC Magic (UK - Vodafone) its already sim unlocked... Having a play with it before i decide whether the HTC Supersonic is worth splashing out on when it comes out..
I know that you cant get the sense upgrade for the UK Vodafone HTC Magic - but i've seen some buzz words like rooting / flashing on here which suggests its still possible.
There are so many threads on here - its difficult to just find what i need - so if anyone could help i'd really appreciate
- Need a simple, idiot proof guide on how to get my HTC Magic with a sense rom on it (I have a 16gb memory card if it requires)
I just want a nice stable ROM which everythings works on - and a foolproof guide on how to install. So both pointing towards the guide, and pointed towards what the best ROM is.
Thanks for the help fellas

Since i don't have a clue what kind of magic the (UK - Vodafone) is i wont be able to guide you unless i start to search for info myself. So please provide me/us with more info about your phone and you probably have better luck getting help. What there will be useful to know is which Hardware revision and SPL you have. To figure that out you should check out the wiki there you should find more than enough info to get started. I will look back in this thread again tomorrow to see if you got further but still need some guidance.
Good luck with this, its not to hard as long as you care to read and read carefully before jumping into doing something there could brick your mobile. Bricks is often made when people does something without fully understanding what they are doing and what it does to the phone. But first of all figure out if you got a 32A or 32B board and what is the SPL. When you know this its easier to figure out what method you need to use to flash a cooked rom into the phone and what rom that will be suitable for the phone you got.
My guess is that since you write that the mobile wont get any sense update it will be a 32B board you got, but again this should not be a guessing game cause it can brick your mobile

You'll have to do some research on your own first. Get some ideas on what SPL's are, how to root, etc. etc. I did a month of research before I did root my phone and flashed different ROMs.
You need to provide your information about your phone like what SPL (although I would guess 1.33.0004 since I do have vodafone Magic as well), running on cupcake or donut, etc. That being said, I have a couple of sites that might be able to help you. Read/watch these thoroughly and understand them before you do root your phone.
http://theunlockr.com/category/howto/android_how_tos/htc-mytouch-3g-magic/ (a lot of video guides that you might find useful)
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php/Full_Update_Guide_-_MT3G/Magic_Firmware_to_CyanogenMod *****I rooted my phone by using cyanogenmod's method for "Non T-mobile 32B Magics". In the last step, you can flash a different ROM instead of cyanogen's if you really want sense, but I highly recommened cyanogenmod as your first choice of ROM since it is so awesome.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Sapphire_Hacking#sec02
Has a general info on 32B Magics. Useful website.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=529062
Has other newbie links.
Don't be in a hurry rooting your phone as you might do something wrong (although it's hard to with all the wonderful guides out there) and deeply regret it. Do your research before you root it. And also try out different ROMs out there for Sense. People have different opinions on each ROM.

Thanks both of you
Love this site - ever need a hand.. Always people around more than willing to throw you some advise.
I haven't gotten the phone yet - arrives tomorrow. So was pre researching for when i get it..
Thanks for all the tips, i'm definitely going to research this as much as possible before attempting it.. As you say, don't want to end up breaking the phone.
I will post back here tomorrow with the motherboard / firmware details it has etc. Then see what direction you guys can point me towards .
Thanks again

Ok fellas
SAPPHIRE PVT 32B SHIP S-ON G
HBOOT-1.33.0004 (SAPP10000)
CPLD-10
RADIO-2.22.19.261
Apr 9 2009,23:30:40
Those are the phone details
Where do i go from here . - "Non T-mobile 32B Magics" guide? and instead of cyanogenmod ROM use one i want?
Also any of u know what the most stable - fast Sense UI ROM is for the HTC Magic 32B is? - just want one like that with everything working.

From reading - looks like this is the best HTC Sense UI ROM to use:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=644275
Question i got - what is Death SPL - and do i need it.. And where in the guide im using, should i do this ext 4 stuff and how
Thanks

Righty -
I decided to just follow the "Non T-mobile 32B Magics" guide you suggested - and do the Sense UI ROM later..
All done . Everything went smoothly.
Now i do wanna try and Sense UI ROM - but do i need the Death SPL? - as searching.. It seems some say thats more for the G1. Not entirely sure..
Also it requires latest radio? u guys got a guide and where i should get the latest radio.. Or is my radio fine..

Ah is ok i managed to flash it
Decided to go back to cyanogenmod stable ROM - the Sense UI ROM is almost there, but not quite yet.

Your radio is fine as it is, it won't hurt to flash the newest radio though.
Haykuro/Danger/Death SPL are the same, 1.33.2005, and again do your research before you ask questions because just asking questions and getting specific answers won't get you much.
Same thing with partitioning your SD card. I recommend checking out theunlockr.com or watch videos from youtube (lots of guides there, I recommened ItsAndroidsWorld

thedalmeny said:
From reading - looks like this is the best HTC Sense UI ROM to use:
Your link was here.
Question i got - what is Death SPL - and do i need it.. And where in the guide im using, should i do this ext 4 stuff and how
Thanks
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When you've rooted your phone the Recover Image will provide you with the options you need to partition your card.
I've personally used this ROM and it is the fastest Sense port I've tried though not something I use every day as it's not as fast as the 1.6 (Donut) based ROMs.
My personal favourite is SuperFast made by HTCClay. He also has a FastTest ROM which has links on this site but you can grab the SuperFast ROM from here the Android Spin forums. I'd post a link but it won't let me yet.
It's fast and stable and I love it.
If you want the DroidEris ROM then your phone should be able to handle it without resorting to a Death/Danger/Whatever SPL. I have the UK Vodafone Magic and I've not had to flash any new radios or SPLs to use those ROMs.
Be careful though. Once you flash one ROM you can't stop!!!
I'm a SERIAL FLASHER!!! AAAAHHH!!!

htc maguc help
Hi
this is my info please help me unlock my sin
imei 354030037017034
phone was with T mobile in the states
htc magic
thank you

never post your imei as it could be used against you=)

XDA Sapphire Hacking Wiki now available

I've just finished putting the last touches on the Sapphire Hacking Wiki available at:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Sapphire_Hacking
I urge any new users to read it to help them get started.
I urge any advanced users to read it and help us keep it up to date!
This is a generic Hacking guide for any Sapphire handset - ie. HTC Magic, Vodafone Magic, Rogers HTC Magic, Google ION, even the TMobile MyTouch 3G.
If a moderator could sticky this it would be appreciated.

Looks great man, thanks so much for your hard work =D

+1 Sticky
Hey Radix,
Fantastic effort! I really wish this had been available a few weeks ago when I first got my handset and was trawling through hundreds of posts for info. This should definatly be made a sticky at the very very top...
Cheers
Ben

Yeah, this was partially why I wrote it - everything was so scattered knowledgewise and I kept seeing people flashing roms with no clue and wondering why it wouldn't boot, etc.
My blogs have had quite a few followers and people commenting that this is what they needed, so thought I'd try and braindump everything that I'd learnt over the last month and a half into the wiki and try and put it into some kind of order

Nice one, thread stuck
Dave

Already added some stuff a couple of days ago

Great work

Excellent work
Now if someone is kind enough to write about swap and how to use it .

I wish I read your ultimate guide first before buy my 'Perfected SPL' Magic hahaha..
Excelent work, thanks !!
.dhy

this is professional work.
thanks a lot for sharing.. really...

In section 8.4 I think its have to be
Fastboot flash recovery recovery.img
Sorry for my english

Hi,
Please add http://jimcortez.com/blog/?p=37 to the USB tethering. No root require.
i tried with both ION rom and Hero rom on Vodafone magic Aus

Thanks for both of your suggestions - I've made the changes you've both suggested.
Unfortunately I've had to split the wiki into two pages due to issues with the xda wiki server and it's maximum file upload limit. I've reported it, but meh - splitting it is easier for now.
I would like to point out that if you see something in the wiki that is wrong - simply edit it yourself - that's the whole point of a Wiki!
There's an edit link at the bottom of the page and your existing xda-forums account gives you permission to edit it.
The more people with specific domain knowledge we have editing it, the better it will be.

Thanks a lot. Excelent work.

for section6, How to Restore a Nandroid Backup - how to recover from a bad rom install
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Sapphire_Hacking_2#sec06
I have tried the latest Recovery image by Amon_RA which you can find here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=530492
and the Nandroid v2.1.1 restore function does not need a security-off SPL.
I can backup/restore smoothly by boot to recovery mode and simply choose the appropriate option without flash my SPL.
my current SPL info
SAPPHIRE PVT 32A SHIP S-ON H
HBOOT-1.33.0009 (SAPP10000)
CPLD-12
RADIO-3.22.20.17
May 8 2009,21:02:32

hi
i am a new magic learner,just read your wiki,many thanks for your hard work.
i found if there had a mistake about :"Perfect" SPL Revisions (that prevent us hacking)
Currently HBOOT-1.33.2006 and HBOOT-1.33.0010 are the known 'Perfect SPL' revisions on the Sapphire handsets that we know of.
in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=529019,Haykuro quote : "T-Mobile myTouch : 1.33.0006 and 1.33.0010 is the dreaded "perfected" SPL".
This means that it's currently not possible to run "fastboot boot image" on these SPL's, so don't try to flash them.
I just got the magic SPL：1.33.0006 （SAPP20000）
Could u tell me which should be the right one.
If my magic could flash a new rom?
many thanks

BOTH 1.33.0006 AND 1.33.0010 are perfect SPL, so you can't flash them yet.

I thought it is hacking wifi
Good info for noob like me.

Cheesebaron said:
BOTH 1.33.0006 AND 1.33.0010 are perfect SPL, so you can't flash them yet.
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Thanks
I found the wiki had been revised.

Nice wiki / guide, helped me out when I thought I'd bricked my phone
Could do with a matrix of roms / features though so people know which roms have which features.
Just a simple table with features across the top (HTC keyboard / multitouch / exchange support / working wifi etc etc ) and roms down the side... just a suggestion anyway.
Good work

[Q] Rooted Mytouch 3G with 3.5mm jack; Need help installing Ginger yoshi

I have a Mytouch 3G with the 3.5mm jack.
FASTBOOT Specs:
SAPPHIRE PVT 32A SHIP S-ON G
HBOOT-1.33.0013 (SAPP31000)
CPLD-13
RADIO-2.22.23.02
Oct 21 2009,22:33:27
When I bought the phone (used) it came with 2.2.1
I was able to root the phone by downgrading to 1.6 using HBOOT and then using Universal Androot. I then installed Amon_RA's recovery (RA-sapphire-v1.7.0) using Rom manager.
I want to install Ginger yoshi but I don't understand the information regarding the SPL and the Radio.
I tried installing an Engineering SPL using the recovery mode but this caused the phone to stop booting either normally or to recovery. I had reinstall 1.6 using HBOOT and perform the rooting process all over again.
Do I need to change anything regarding the SPL and Radio in order to install Ginger yoshi or for it to work better?
Is there a different kernel I need to flash in order for it work or work better?
I realize a lot of this is addressed in various posts but I feel I've gotten too close to bricking for comfort and I need some advice specific to my situation.
Edit: I'm not at all set on using Ginger yoshi. I'm totally open to suggestions as far as Roms. I'd prefer a GB rom that's as fast as possible.

Changing the radio on your phone will have little to no effect on anything. Changing the spl will give you a not fully functional device.
If you want to use Ginger yoshi then yo will have to flash another kernel after. They have one in their download folder. The fender one.
A lot of roms (ezgingerbread ad cos are the ones i use) use autokernel so you don't have to deal with that
Oh also I think ezgb is much faster than the others probably beause it doesn't have all the cyanogenmod features (bloat). light and fast

tvall said:
Changing the radio on your phone will have little to no effect on anything. Changing the spl will give you a not fully functional device.
If you want to use Ginger yoshi then yo will have to flash another kernel after. They have one in their download folder. The fender one.
A lot of roms (ezgingerbread ad cos are the ones i use) use autokernel so you don't have to deal with that
Oh also I think ezgb is much faster than the others probably beause it doesn't have all the cyanogenmod features (bloat). light and fast
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Thank you very much for your response. I'm probably going to install ezgingerbread but I have one question first. Do you know what the ginger yoshi post means when it says:
RADIO AND SPL INFO
for 32b you need SPL 1.33.0013d and RADIO 2.22.28.25 or 27.08
for 32a you need SPL 1.33.2010 or 1.33.2009 and RADIO you will need the old radio(3.22)
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That's the part that got me confused. Can I just ignore that?
Edit: Is this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9987696&postcount=2 the best (only?) source for ezgb binaries?

haddiman said:
Thank you very much for your response. I'm probably going to install ezgingerbread but I have one question first. Do you know what the ginger yoshi post means when it says:
That's the part that got me confused. Can I just ignore that?
Edit: Is this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9987696&postcount=2 the best (only?) source for ezgb binaries?
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Yes and yes I think.. haven't actually opened the link to check. Lazy