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Ok, I will admit I am a total noobie with Android based phones. I have been on the Blackberry platform for years.
I just got my magic yesterday.
To my knowledge it has not been updated yet.
How would I go about seeing if it can be rooted? And what is the best way to get it rooted, if it can be?
I am an IT guy, I am not afraid to try things out, so give me some steps and I will do them ASAP.
Thanks!
1st, boot the phone by holding the back & power buttons. Tell us EXACTLY what is on the first 5 lines at the top of the screen.
From there you will know if your phone is rootable...
It says:
SAPPHIRE PVT 32A SHIP S-ON H
HBOOT-1.33.0009 (SAPP50000)
CPLD-12
RADIO-3.22.20.17
May 8 2009, 21:02:32 .
does this help?
Those specs were the same as mine. I used the Relentless Rooter software to root my phone. It was free then but you now have to pay (you can find it in the app forum).
You can also use the unlockr one click method. Check his site and video. Remember to use the instructions for 32A. Some posters wrote that they could not use this method (flashrec) to flash the latest Amon_Ra recovery and the solution was to shorten Amon_Ra's recovery's name. I know this sounds foreign language right now, but I do suggest you read and research a bit, specially the comments posted under the unlockr's method.
Once rooted, you can find various custom Roms for 32A in the developers section. Make sure the Rom fits your radio and SPL.
Oh, once rooted, I would suggest changing your SPL 1.33.009 to an engineered SPL, like mine (I use 1.33.2010). You can do a search at google or within the developers forum to find out why.
CONSIDER YOURSELF EXTREMELY FORTUNATE, you have a HTC Magic with an OLD non perfected SPL. Hell it isn't even a protected SPL you can load custom roms right away without having to flash a a new SPL.
HTC Magic with that SPL are becoming rarer by the day.
I would look into what ROMs you're interested in, if you want a 1.6 ROM, I would recommend Cyanogen 32A Port or Amon_RA's 1.6 ROM.
If you don't need 1.6 and like Sense UI (I suggest youtubing Sense UI and Stock Android to see which you prefer), CursorDroid's Sense UI ROM is in my opinion the BEST ROM available for the HTC Magic.
Cyanogen and Amon_Ra's ROM will work with your current SPL (I believe). While CursorDroid's requires you to flash the SPL and Radio of your phone. Which is a bit intimidating for novices but if your well prepared and pay close attention to instructions it's easy.
Thanks to all, I used some simple instrutions.
I now have:
6.35.10.18 Radio
1.76.2007 SPL
And I installed the CursorSense32A-1.2.6.1 rom.
This is way better.
networkdawg said:
Thanks to all, I used some simple instrutions.
I now have:
6.35.10.18 Radio
1.76.2007 SPL
And I installed the CursorSense32A-1.2.6.1 rom.
This is way better.
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Sweet, good job man.
I wish the person I bought my Rogers Magic from didnt do the update. Now I dont think I can root it
Wond3r said:
I wish the person I bought my Rogers Magic from didnt do the update. Now I dont think I can root it
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Maybe it was a new Magic which the person obtained from the HTC Dream upgrade.
Taknarosh said:
Maybe it was a new Magic which the person obtained from the HTC Dream upgrade.
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Yeah it was
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Yeah it was
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Then for sure it was updated. Rogers wouldn't send out units with the bugged ROM.
Hi,
I've taken the plunge and finally moved from Windows Mobile to Andriod - picked up a HTC Magic (UK - Vodafone) its already sim unlocked... Having a play with it before i decide whether the HTC Supersonic is worth splashing out on when it comes out..
I know that you cant get the sense upgrade for the UK Vodafone HTC Magic - but i've seen some buzz words like rooting / flashing on here which suggests its still possible.
There are so many threads on here - its difficult to just find what i need - so if anyone could help i'd really appreciate
- Need a simple, idiot proof guide on how to get my HTC Magic with a sense rom on it (I have a 16gb memory card if it requires)
I just want a nice stable ROM which everythings works on - and a foolproof guide on how to install. So both pointing towards the guide, and pointed towards what the best ROM is.
Thanks for the help fellas
Since i don't have a clue what kind of magic the (UK - Vodafone) is i wont be able to guide you unless i start to search for info myself. So please provide me/us with more info about your phone and you probably have better luck getting help. What there will be useful to know is which Hardware revision and SPL you have. To figure that out you should check out the wiki there you should find more than enough info to get started. I will look back in this thread again tomorrow to see if you got further but still need some guidance.
Good luck with this, its not to hard as long as you care to read and read carefully before jumping into doing something there could brick your mobile. Bricks is often made when people does something without fully understanding what they are doing and what it does to the phone. But first of all figure out if you got a 32A or 32B board and what is the SPL. When you know this its easier to figure out what method you need to use to flash a cooked rom into the phone and what rom that will be suitable for the phone you got.
My guess is that since you write that the mobile wont get any sense update it will be a 32B board you got, but again this should not be a guessing game cause it can brick your mobile
You'll have to do some research on your own first. Get some ideas on what SPL's are, how to root, etc. etc. I did a month of research before I did root my phone and flashed different ROMs.
You need to provide your information about your phone like what SPL (although I would guess 1.33.0004 since I do have vodafone Magic as well), running on cupcake or donut, etc. That being said, I have a couple of sites that might be able to help you. Read/watch these thoroughly and understand them before you do root your phone.
http://theunlockr.com/category/howto/android_how_tos/htc-mytouch-3g-magic/ (a lot of video guides that you might find useful)
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php/Full_Update_Guide_-_MT3G/Magic_Firmware_to_CyanogenMod *****I rooted my phone by using cyanogenmod's method for "Non T-mobile 32B Magics". In the last step, you can flash a different ROM instead of cyanogen's if you really want sense, but I highly recommened cyanogenmod as your first choice of ROM since it is so awesome.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Sapphire_Hacking#sec02
Has a general info on 32B Magics. Useful website.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=529062
Has other newbie links.
Don't be in a hurry rooting your phone as you might do something wrong (although it's hard to with all the wonderful guides out there) and deeply regret it. Do your research before you root it. And also try out different ROMs out there for Sense. People have different opinions on each ROM.
Thanks both of you
Love this site - ever need a hand.. Always people around more than willing to throw you some advise.
I haven't gotten the phone yet - arrives tomorrow. So was pre researching for when i get it..
Thanks for all the tips, i'm definitely going to research this as much as possible before attempting it.. As you say, don't want to end up breaking the phone.
I will post back here tomorrow with the motherboard / firmware details it has etc. Then see what direction you guys can point me towards .
Thanks again
Ok fellas
SAPPHIRE PVT 32B SHIP S-ON G
HBOOT-1.33.0004 (SAPP10000)
CPLD-10
RADIO-2.22.19.261
Apr 9 2009,23:30:40
Those are the phone details
Where do i go from here . - "Non T-mobile 32B Magics" guide? and instead of cyanogenmod ROM use one i want?
Also any of u know what the most stable - fast Sense UI ROM is for the HTC Magic 32B is? - just want one like that with everything working.
From reading - looks like this is the best HTC Sense UI ROM to use:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=644275
Question i got - what is Death SPL - and do i need it.. And where in the guide im using, should i do this ext 4 stuff and how
Thanks
Righty -
I decided to just follow the "Non T-mobile 32B Magics" guide you suggested - and do the Sense UI ROM later..
All done . Everything went smoothly.
Now i do wanna try and Sense UI ROM - but do i need the Death SPL? - as searching.. It seems some say thats more for the G1. Not entirely sure..
Also it requires latest radio? u guys got a guide and where i should get the latest radio.. Or is my radio fine..
Ah is ok i managed to flash it
Decided to go back to cyanogenmod stable ROM - the Sense UI ROM is almost there, but not quite yet.
Your radio is fine as it is, it won't hurt to flash the newest radio though.
Haykuro/Danger/Death SPL are the same, 1.33.2005, and again do your research before you ask questions because just asking questions and getting specific answers won't get you much.
Same thing with partitioning your SD card. I recommend checking out theunlockr.com or watch videos from youtube (lots of guides there, I recommened ItsAndroidsWorld
thedalmeny said:
From reading - looks like this is the best HTC Sense UI ROM to use:
Your link was here.
Question i got - what is Death SPL - and do i need it.. And where in the guide im using, should i do this ext 4 stuff and how
Thanks
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When you've rooted your phone the Recover Image will provide you with the options you need to partition your card.
I've personally used this ROM and it is the fastest Sense port I've tried though not something I use every day as it's not as fast as the 1.6 (Donut) based ROMs.
My personal favourite is SuperFast made by HTCClay. He also has a FastTest ROM which has links on this site but you can grab the SuperFast ROM from here the Android Spin forums. I'd post a link but it won't let me yet.
It's fast and stable and I love it.
If you want the DroidEris ROM then your phone should be able to handle it without resorting to a Death/Danger/Whatever SPL. I have the UK Vodafone Magic and I've not had to flash any new radios or SPLs to use those ROMs.
Be careful though. Once you flash one ROM you can't stop!!!
I'm a SERIAL FLASHER!!! AAAAHHH!!!
htc maguc help
Hi
this is my info please help me unlock my sin
imei 354030037017034
phone was with T mobile in the states
htc magic
thank you
never post your imei as it could be used against you=)
Hey there. I've ordered an htc magic, and since it has a 288mb memory, i suppose it's the 32A version (we'll see when it gets here though).
I basically want to turn my magic into the HTC Hero (well the UI at least..) I've spent most of my day today reading about how to flash roms, which ones offer this or that, what the problems are and so on. After about 10 hours of reading, i came across this:
htc.com/hk-en/SupportViewNews.aspx?dl_id=765&news_id=355
on the HTC webpage (EDIT: please add "w w w." in front of the text as the forum won't let me insert a link)
And my first question is... What's the difference between that official rom and, say, the CursorSense32A-1.2.6.1 ROM - which i take is the most popular around here.
Just use Cursor's ROM. You won't regret it.
I'm sure it must be better. I just wanted to know basic differences...
Is CursorSense using Android 2.1 or the normal 1.5?
Cursor is using the 1.5 with SenseUI interface. If you really want the 2.1 i would recommend you check Super-Hero from ahmgsk also with SenseUI.
2.1 is most likely unstable. It's ok but I personally prefer stability. Just grab cursorsense and you basically have yourself the hero, but be careful flashing radio and spl.
KAwAtA said:
2.1 is most likely unstable. It's ok but I personally prefer stability. Just grab cursorsense and you basically have yourself the hero, but be careful flashing radio and spl.
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That was my main concern about the cursorsense and that's why i was looking for the official HTC Sense UI update. I still don't know what their difference is and what more does cursorsense offer.
I am a computer engineer, so it SHOULDN'T be that big of a deal to flash some firmware on a cell phone, i just have a lot of reading to do, which is not all in one place in a form of a tutorial or something.
If anyone has some useful links to provide, you'd save my day. Thanks a mil once again.
give us the fastboot details on your phone and I'm sure someone (including myself) can help you in the process. Just follow instructions and you should be fine but we'll guide if necessary. Lastly, is that 32A the one with the headphone jack? (If it is, I can't help you too much lol, I can point you places but that's it)
petsasj said:
That was my main concern about the cursorsense and that's why i was looking for the official HTC Sense UI update. I still don't know what their difference is and what more does cursorsense offer.
I am a computer engineer, so it SHOULDN'T be that big of a deal to flash some firmware on a cell phone, i just have a lot of reading to do, which is not all in one place in a form of a tutorial or something.
If anyone has some useful links to provide, you'd save my day. Thanks a mil once again.
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Not to be rude but this link was on the CursorSense thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=605239
Just follow it step by step. It doesn't take a Computer Engineer to figure it out, by the way it's written and explained.
Also, the official update flashes your radio to the 6.35 radio, so I'll say it again, just go with cursor's ROM you won't regret it.
It's fast, it has no carrier branding, it's fast, it's stable and did I mention it's fast?
I advice you against using an official rom. specially if you want to make modifications/root/hack your phone. those official roms usually fix bugs that are needed for hacky things to be done, such as gaining root.
My phone has not arrived yet so i cannot provide any more information as of now.
devbro said:
I advice you against using an official rom. specially if you want to make modifications/root/hack your phone. those official roms usually fix bugs that are needed for hacky things to be done, such as gaining root.
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Okay so here is a biggie that i need help for.
I am looking into buying a used HTC Magic (32A) that is in mint condition. The seller told me, after i asked him if i can use an unofficial rom on his, that he has flashed an official rom on it and is unsure if i will be able to flash modified ROMs.
He shall provide me the SPL and Radio versions tomorrow, as well as the ROM version he is using.
What do you think i should do? In case the SPL is perfected (which i suppose is what devbro meant) is there any way to revert back to an engineering SPL and Radio (i am looking into using Cursor's ROM).
Thanks guys. And i shall be providing the Info as soon as i get it so you can help me decide.
It's called a 'perfect' SPL for a reason. Just get the Radio and SPL and post it up, we'll be able to tell at that point if it is flashable.
So here are the information guys. Please let me know if the phone is flashable:
SAPPHIRE PVT 32A SHIP S-ON H
ΗΒΟΟΤ-1.76.0009 (SΑP10000)
CPLD-12
RADIO-6.35.08.29
DEC 8 2009,17:38:48
Nope, that indeed is the perfect spl. It has not been successfully flashed yet.
So what would you do? Get another phone with a non perfected SPL, or get that one in hope that someone will find a workaround and maybe a wait for an official 2.1 eclair android update for htc magic (although i doubt it tbh).
how bad is the official htc sense ui compared to cursorsense's?
Myself, I bought a 2nd Magic, so I have 2 rootable phones.
As for the comparison between official HTC releases and Cursor....I have no idea as I've only used cooked ROM's. Both of my phones came pre-rooted, so I never had the pleasure of a stock ROM. LoL
The official 2.1 should be here in the next few months (as late as June), if you can wait, else you will need to drop the $529US+++ on a Nexus 1.
I wish i had the money for a nexus.. but i don't.
This guy is selling his HTC magic for quite cheap (200 dollars) that is seriously in mint condition (but unflashable) and i was very interested. What i really want is a phone that will be able to get the 2.1 android. HTC might not release it officially for the magic, that's what concerns me, and i was thinking if they don't i would be able to flash it myself via a custom rom.
Well then definately wait until you find one with a flashable HBOOT.
With so many people buying N1's there will be Magic's up for sale. I paid $200CND for my 2nd magic, from a local guy who bought a N1. My first magic I traded my HTC Dream for, not sure what the girl was thinking, but she didn't want the Magic and I was more then happy to trade. LoL
Well i am also thinking of getting the hero and get it over with. the hero will deffo get the 2.1 eclair.. What do you think?
I've never even seen a Hero, let alone used one.
My Magic looks like this:
Sapphire PVT 32A SHIP S-ON H
HBOOT-1.33.0014 (SAPP10000)
CPLD-12
RADIO-3.22.23.18
I've been reading this and other forums for awhile now trying to find a "simple" way to get froyo on it but cant seem to find one, there's just too many options and possibilities for my little head to handle.
So now a few questions:
I heard you could overclock it, is it worth it and will it be stable?
Is it even possible to get froyo on it without following a 1mil step guide?
And considering the above to be "yes" the magic question all noobs ask... How?
All the radio and root stuff confuses me, if only it could be done with just a random rom and not having to do anything else
PS. Yes i know others ask about roms often but i have been reading about it for so long now without getting anywhere, i have to get some clear answers to get anywhere...
-The OC dosent give you any mind blowing performance increase (better performance is only noticable with certain games), 576 mhz is stable, other I don't know, your phone will not melt or anything (on 576).
- for any new magic (android) phone you must do a rather "long" procedure before you can start flashing stuff.
- read the whole 32A wiki, also read part 2
- read how to flash radio and spl
- Look into rom bible for roms you might like
- I would recommend cyanogen mod 5.0.8 (2.1) to use as a daily rom, froyo has many bugs
- and don't be hasty, read the wiki again if yu have to, almost every thing is explained there
- don't brick your phone!
happy flashing
"Perfect" SPL Revisions (which prevent us hacking)
Currently HBOOT-1.33.0006, HBOOT-1.33.0010 and HBOOT-1.33.0014 are the known 'Perfect SPL' revisions on the Sapphire handsets that we know of.
It is not possible to fastboot a ROM if you have one of these SPLs; you need to wait until someone has hacked it.
Edit (12 Aug 2009) : Now you can! Refer to "blabla cant post link i'm new user"
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Seems i have a perfect SPL, have somebody developed an easy fix for that?
Quoting the link:
Proceed on your own risk, you might brick your phone!!!
This method is written for the original MT3G back in 2009, DONT USE IT on the Fender/MT3G 1.2!!!
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Got no clue what Fender/MT3G 1.2 is...
Fender is the limited edition myTouch that T-Mobile marketed and he 1.2 is the mytouch's with the 3.5mm jack on top. Since you've got a perfected SPL, the goldcard method is about the only way to root it, AFAIK.
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My MyTouch 3G with 3.5mm jack is still locked to Tmobile. I don't want to pay for Touchdown for Exchange capabilities and PDAnet for tethering...so want to upgrade to the latest stable ROM which seems to be CyanogenMod's Froyo ROMs.
Can I upgrade a locked phone? Do I need to do anything special before doing it?
I used to have a Touch Diamond earlier and I've used a lot of Custom ROMs - but I am new to Andriod. There are many many posts for newbies like me - but more information is just confusing me rather than helping. Can someone point me to a thread which explains the step by step procedure?
Thanks!!!
U need to root and flasha custom recovery, and mabey radio and hboot and any rom u flash must be for 32A not 32B
Sent from my T-Mobile myTouch 3G Slide using XDA App
Follow this guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=764530
Ashko said:
My MyTouch 3G with 3.5mm jack is still locked to Tmobile. I don't want to pay for Touchdown for Exchange capabilities and PDAnet for tethering...so want to upgrade to the latest stable ROM which seems to be CyanogenMod's Froyo ROMs.
Can I upgrade a locked phone? Do I need to do anything special before doing it?
I used to have a Touch Diamond earlier and I've used a lot of Custom ROMs - but I am new to Andriod. There are many many posts for newbies like me - but more information is just confusing me rather than helping. Can someone point me to a thread which explains the step by step procedure?
Thanks!!!
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yes sir! you can root, flash roms and do everything even though the fone is locked to t-mobile. the only thing is, even after you do everythin you still have to use a t-mobile sim. unlocking is not related to roms, root etc. the sim lock is based only on your fone's imei.
Ashko said:
My MyTouch 3G with 3.5mm jack is still locked to Tmobile. I don't want to pay for Touchdown for Exchange capabilities and PDAnet for tethering...so want to upgrade to the latest stable ROM which seems to be CyanogenMod's Froyo ROMs.
Can I upgrade a locked phone? Do I need to do anything special before doing it?
I used to have a Touch Diamond earlier and I've used a lot of Custom ROMs - but I am new to Andriod. There are many many posts for newbies like me - but more information is just confusing me rather than helping. Can someone point me to a thread which explains the step by step procedure?
Thanks!!!
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=7667987#post7667987