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I contacted HTC and discussed the grounding issue my phone is experiencing (screen unresponsive when ungrounded.) I asked if exchanging would fix the issue and was told all incredibles suffer from it. I would just like to confirm that people have incredibles that function when touched with only one finger on an ungrounded surface such as the arm of leather sofa.
What exactly is ungrounded?
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what is your phone set on when trying to use it?
If the object the phone is sitting on has more charge (and the phone is not in a case) than the object touching the screen (your finger) then it won't work. All capacitive touch screens work this way... at least, that's my understanding. I have never had the unresponsive screen issue, but my phone is also in a case.
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basically a non conductive surface (example leather couch arm). Mine doesn't even work on most wood tables unless i make a second point of contact.
I have not experienced it, and I tried on various objects after seeing videos of the problem, but it seems like it's a somewhat random problem. I think it has to do with the object having a static charge.
Are you in an very dry environment?
Edit: If you can use one, a case may help.
I'm on my second phone, both of them did it.
I just got my incredible last week, I love it but this is annoying me. The people at the store act like they have never heard of the issue and HTC said getting it replaced wouldn't help. I am considering trying the x or waiting on the fascinate, however I just want to know if and likely when i switch back, should i consider this flaw a necessary evil that goes along with owning this phone? would you say the majority of peoples phones work fine?
I've actually never had a grounding issue with my phone, though that may be because I have a case on it.
The only trouble I've had is the screen freezes when I wake it up, albeit VERY rarely. My boyfriend has the same problem, so I know it's not just me.
i hardly ever notice it. a few times i noticed it was this situation
i have the phone laying on my bed and i wake it up and try to unlock it (using the pattern lock) and it won't work or i have to try several times beacause it reads my touch as jumping around.
99.9% of the time though i'm holding the phone in my hand when i'm using it so i never notice it.
I may be wrong here, BUT. I think the 2.2 leak fixes it. i had the problem before the leak, sometimes when trying to scroll through apps or something with the phone laying on my bed it would think i'm long pausing on an app or it wouldn't scroll right. now it seems to be flawless.. only tested it for a few minutes trying to reproduce it, but still. usually it only took a few seconds to notice it.
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I may be wrong here, BUT. I think the 2.2 leak fixes it. i had the problem before the leak, sometimes when trying to scroll through apps or something with the phone laying on my bed it would think i'm long pausing on an app or it wouldn't scroll right. now it seems to be flawless.. only tested it for a few minutes trying to reproduce it, but still. usually it only took a few seconds to notice it.
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could you test something for me since you have the leak? try a pattern lock and see how it goes.
FWIW, mine has had this issue from the start. Bugs me a little, but not enough to replace the handset.
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could you test something for me since you have the leak? try a pattern lock and see how it goes.
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my first incredible had the unresponsive screen, verizon replaced it and that one had it as well, I installed the leaked froyo and the problem is no longer there.
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could you test something for me since you have the leak? try a pattern lock and see how it goes.
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I have had the same problem you have had with both my bed and my couch. After reading the posts here I tried it and it seem that 2.2 has fixed it since I no longer have the problem. Not sure how thats possible if its a grounding issue but its fixed.
While I was unrooted, preparing to flash the leak, I went into the store and got them to exchange my phone. The new one works perfectly but i never tried the leak on the old one. I was told however, via HTC email, that it would not be fixed via update due to being a hardware issue. here is what they sent me. A stated earlier, my new phone now functions perfectly and my name isn't snoopy.
Dear snoopy
Hello snoopy, "Thank you for contacting HTC. I understand how important it is to have your HTC customized to your specifications. I am not sure which HTC device you are writing about, but there is an issue with the Androids. The touchscreen sensor is inconsistent, particularly when the phone is not grounded. Just putting a hand on the device grounds it just fine. This is a physical issue so updates will not resolve it. You do have the option to contact your provider for exchange. James, I hope I have answered your inquiry in sufficient detail. Please feel free to contact HTC at any time in the future. HTC Technical Support www.htc.com/us www.twitter.com/htc www.facebook.com/htc"
i was also told on the phone that exchanging wouldn't fix the issue, however it certainly did correct it.
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While I was unrooted, preparing to flash the leak, I went into the store and got them to exchange my phone. The new one works perfectly but i never tried the leak on the old one. I was told however, via HTC email, that it would not be fixed via update due to being a hardware issue. here is what they sent me. A stated earlier, my new phone now functions perfectly and my name isn't snoopy.
Dear snoopy
Hello snoopy, "Thank you for contacting HTC. I understand how important it is to have your HTC customized to your specifications. I am not sure which HTC device you are writing about, but there is an issue with the Androids. The touchscreen sensor is inconsistent, particularly when the phone is not grounded. Just putting a hand on the device grounds it just fine. This is a physical issue so updates will not resolve it. You do have the option to contact your provider for exchange. James, I hope I have answered your inquiry in sufficient detail. Please feel free to contact HTC at any time in the future. HTC Technical Support www.htc.com/us www.twitter.com/htc www.facebook.com/htc"
i was also told on the phone that exchanging wouldn't fix the issue, however it certainly did correct it.
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No but your name must be James ;p
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No but your name must be James ;p
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How ever did you know that?. I just removed the places with my full name, not worried about being 1 in a million people with the name James so its all good.
My fiance's Evo Shift has sporadic problems with the touch screen. We can't replicate it on demand so the Sprint techs refuse to believe it's actually broken (we've been in 3-4 times).
Basically, it will just go crazy sometimes. We can literally set the phone down and watch her notifications bar jump up and down all over the screen. Her contacts will open and it will start calling people, disconnect the call, then call someone else...all on it's own.
It's as if it becomes hypersensitive and registers touches that aren't there. It's in a completely random fashion but makes the phone unusable for a good amount of time. Sprint forced her to the 2.3.3 update so I can't root it, though I'm not sure I'd want to anyway in case I found a tech who actually knew what the hell they were doing (very rare with Sprint in this area, at least.)
Any ideas on what's causing it? I am convinced it's hardware but Sprint won't replace the phone because it happens to sporadically. Could it be software? Is there a screen calibration tool I can use without being root?
Go into menu-settings-Language & Keyboard-Touch Input settings-Text input-Calibration tool. Folow the prompts. May or may not help.
If they won't fix it in the store and prboy's suggestion doesn't work you should call Sprint and talk to someone. They aren't doing their job otherwise. You shouldn't have to deal with a phone that isn't working properly. It would be different if you were trying to get a free upgrade to an EVO 3D or trying to replace a beat up phone for free or something which it doesn't sound like you are doing. Mentioning you have heard good things about the competition will usually seal the deal if it comes down to it as well.
Car dealerships do this too and it really pisses me off. It can really be hard to diagnose an intermittent problem and they blow you off because of it. They should give you the benefit of the doubt and switch out your phone. Why would you be there if you weren't having issues.
The calibration prboy suggested doesnt sound like itll work because thats only for the htc ime keyboard.
You said it happened on 2.2 then sprint told you to upgrade to the 2.3.3 OTA update and it still has problems?
Yes, that's exactly what happened. FIRST they told me it was the app Lookout that was causing the problem...that they had an internal memo from Sprint saying it was malware and to delete it. They refused to even look at the phone further until we removed Lookout from her device. Then they sent us home and told us to download the 2.3 update and it would fix the issue.
It didn't and that Sprint tech REALLY made me want to punch him in the face. Incredibly condescending.
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Yes, that's exactly what happened. FIRST they told me it was the app Lookout that was causing the problem...that they had an internal memo from Sprint saying it was malware and to delete it. They refused to even look at the phone further until we removed Lookout from her device. Then they sent us home and told us to download the 2.3 update and it would fix the issue.
It didn't and that Sprint tech REALLY made me want to punch him in the face. Incredibly condescending.
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Well first off lookout security protects you from the very thing they said it is so dont listen to that.
If it is happening on both updates then it probably is not Software that is the problem.
Is there alot of times where you press something and it doesnt work and you keeps touching it? maybe it is finally registering those touches after you leave it be and thats why. it reads those touch inputs all at once and performs them
I suppose it could be that, but how could we stop that from happening? Stop them from 'queuing' up in such a manner?
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The calibration prboy suggested doesnt sound like itll work because thats only for the htc ime keyboard.
You said it happened on 2.2 then sprint told you to upgrade to the 2.3.3 OTA update and it still has problems?
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It also calibrates the finger touch response for the screen. To the individual using it, we all press the screen differently.
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If it is happening on both updates then it probably is not Software that is the problem.
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Agreeded. As long as it happens even before you install any apps. Like right after a just doing a phone reset back to factory.
If its because its responding to finger touches at a later time then that usually is a problem with the hardware like the processor. Since it sounds like a hardware issue i can only suggest take it to sprint and show them the problem
I had the same problem with my first shift just call them talk to the tech. dep. Tell them your problem and the will set you up with a new phone they did it for me. But it does sound like what happened with my old one.
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Earlier hardware builds of the shift had problems like mine would overheat like crazy
Hardware 0003 and any lower
i got a new one with hardware version 0004 and ive been fine since
Happened to me, eventually the whole screen will stop taking touch commands. I got a refurb from sprint for 30$.
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Happened to me, eventually the whole screen will stop taking touch commands. I got a refurb from sprint for 30$.
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that sucks i swore to myself ill never get a refurb smartphone because with my luck it wouldnt be in "like new" condition
I'm wondering if these problems are typical of aosp roms or something. One example is that I had a problem with the touchscreen stopping working, and I had to lock the screen and open it again to have it start working again. It's a lot of issues with the touchscreen, it started clicking the same area by itself and I thought it was an app. I wiped the rom and it stopped doing it so I thought it was a software issue, but it did it again later. I think that it is a random things that happens, sometimes more often than not.
It sucks because I love the phone but I'm wondering if it's hardware. Anyone know?
It sounds like hardware issues. Switch to a sense rom and see if it persist.
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You can try switching to a Sense Rom as suggested. See if that solves the issue. But if the issue persits, than RUU the phone back to factory stock. Check if the issue continues. If that does not resolve it than I would say it's a hardware issue. After that at least the phone is already in a condition to take back to Sprint for repair, or exchange.
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I have a couple of questions. Firstly are you using a aftermarket charger! Are you trying to change screens while on the charger? If you are unplug for a few minutes and try not on the charger. If no to above questions then I would suggest doing what prboy suggests.
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I am not using an aftermarket charger, it happens randomly when I am using the phone, usually in bursts. I read that there is a hardware issue sometimes with it sometimes, but it always ends up with the phone being returned.
Does this typically happen on this model? I bought it from someone else, and I'm not sure if it can be exchanged.
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I am not using an aftermarket charger, it happens randomly when I am using the phone, usually in bursts. I read that there is a hardware issue sometimes with it sometimes, but it always ends up with the phone being returned.
Does this typically happen on this model? I bought it from someone else, and I'm not sure if it can be exchanged.
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Not that i'm aware of no but as long as you have TEP for your line/phone it will get fixed. Buying a phone from someone other that sprint doesn't affect TEP
http://forums.androidcentral.com/htc-evo-shift-4g/79297-touch-screen-randomly-pressing-itself.html
looks like its hardware.
Ah i remember reading that thread a long time ago. Well at least we know it is in fact hardware issues
All four of my shifts ended up with this same problem. One tech tried to tell me that it was a software issue and I would have to wait for an update and their was no benefit to switching out the phone. Complete BS. After the fourth one started acting up, I called Sprint and spoke with retentions. The lady was incredibly helpful and I explained that I did not have time to keep visiting the Sprint store and that 4 phones in 6 months was not acceptable. In the end the lady made me a new line and I purchased a new phone with the discount and cancelled my old line. This was ~week after the ET4G released. I still have my shift and flashed ICS a week or so ago on it, but its a pain to use with the screen acting up. Oh well, good luck to you!
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http://forums.androidcentral.com/htc-evo-shift-4g/79297-touch-screen-randomly-pressing-itself.html
looks like its hardware.
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Well now that your certain, RUU and back it goes. Just hope you have TEP. They should still take care of it even if you don't have TEP. It's just they might give you a hard time. But definately take it in, keep us posted on how it goes.
I have this issues every now and then it doesnt really bother me that much and it seems to happen whenever my phones above 75% charged idk the cause but like i said it doesnt really happen to often
Yes, but you don't want to wait till it completely craps out on you. Just makes things harder to deal with.
It happens daily. I'm not sure if I want to return it and get a refurb with the chance of it happening again, or if I want to get a replacement touchscreen. Has anyone ever replaced the touchscreen and have it work good? Most stories I hear are of replacing it again and again until they decide to get another phone.
If you have TEP. I'd say iy's better to just unroot, and take it in. If you have TEP that's what your paying for . Besides if they screw it up you get another one .
TEAM MiK
Mik Roms Since 3/13/11
Need to have this replaced.
The touchscreen is actually dying. I just tried Z-test or whatever and parts of the screen do not work.
So, anyone reading this thread, go get it replaced just like everyone else told me to!
Dratini said:
Need to have this replaced.
The touchscreen is actually dying. I just tried Z-test or whatever and parts of the screen do not work.
So, anyone reading this thread, go get it replaced just like everyone else told me to!
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You replaced the touch screen or the phone?
Did you try going in to a sprint store and getting it repaired/replaced there?
After my last post about needing to run to stock to get my phone fixed, sprint took their time to send me a replacement, might I add my mother has an evo 3D and 2 days before mine broke her's did the same. I got a replacement yesterday finally after being told it was sent more than a week ago (I live in florida so that's illogical)
My replacement is now having the same exact issues of flickering, half touch screen not working and random dead spots on the digitizer for the half that does work.
I am simply done with HTC, I was told that due to the issues I had with them hanging up on me, dropping me after saying I was on hold and having my replacement take 2 weeks to get to me after being told it was shipped on the day I went in only for it to have been shipped few days ago from me receiving it, I may be either switching from sprint. He did put a flag and ticket up for me on my issues though, he seemed to be the only tech that cared. He said I should now be able to get a new phone entirely, so I may just switch to the samsung epic, it's old but It's better than this ****.
Sorry but I needed to vent about this crap, thought some of you might have gone through the same, I am just starting college again and this was not the time to be dealing with this crap.
That sucks, I've never had any issues with HTC myself. Had a HTC G1 before this and it's still working even with a half cracked screen. Every phone is going to have some defective ones made. I've known a lot of people with Samsung that also get defective phones. Sorry you had a bad experience though.
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so I may just switch to the samsung epic, it's old but It's better than this ****.
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Ugh, don't get the Epic... If you push hard enough you should be able to get the NS4G, i know at least 3 people that got the Nexus as a replacement. Plus its a solid device.
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My cousin and friend have the epic and I really liked it, they didn't have any issues with it since the gb update, but if I do get the NS4G I will take it, just don't like not having a keyboard even though I barely used it on my shift. The possibility of me getting another shift is high also but I am going to complain til I get a new phone, 3 phones with same issues is bull.
It's not a problem with the shift that I've seen very frequently. I've gone through 4 shifts. I say you should give the Shift another chance. It's the best phone Sprint has short of a nexus prime and if you're like me, you don't want a nexus prime because there's no keyboard.
edit/note: Make sure you try and get a Sprint store rep to send you a REPLACEMENT rather than going through asurion. Make sure you express your extreme dissatisfaction, time lost, and the fact that you are considering cancelling your account. This is the biggest thing that is hurting Sprint right now, customer retention, so I'm pretty sure that would help. If it doesn't go to another Sprint store, call Sprint customer service, ask for a supervisor, and express your extreme dissatisfaction with the service you received at that store.
That is what I plan to do, guy on the phone said I can ask for a replacement fine due to all the flags on my account from the last week.
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That is what I plan to do, guy on the phone said I can ask for a replacement fine due to all the flags on my account from the last week.
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Cool. From what I've heard getting a replacement phone is almost as good as getting a brand new phone.
If you have issues with the 2nd phone and you have asurion take both phones in to the Sprint store and they can swap bad parts for good parts. Just call Sprint customer service ahead of time and tell them to schedule an appointment for you.
I already sent in my original and I got this replacement here and more parts of my digitizer are slowly not working, I have just enough response to answer calls.
gigermunit said:
I already sent in my original and I got this replacement here and more parts of my digitizer are slowly not working, I have just enough response to answer calls.
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Get 1 more replacement. Trust me I had to go through 3 to get a good shift. Also make sure you hack it up and see how far you can overclock it. If you can get past 1.6ghz you've got a good cut of the wafer CPU.
Both my original and this replacement could do 2.0ghz and be just fine, it's the screen that kept giving out, my flex ribbon in my first broke while I took a nap then this phone's digitizer took a dive right after activating it, then it worked fine, put a screen protector on it. To which it stopped working, then wouldn't work without the protector on now wont work at all.
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Both my original and this replacement could do 2.0ghz and be just fine, it's the screen that kept giving out, my flex ribbon in my first broke while I took a nap then this phone's digitizer took a dive right after activating it, then it worked fine, put a screen protector on it. To which it stopped working, then wouldn't work without the protector on now wont work at all.
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Yeah I found a place here that will put the screen protector on perfectly here, you should be able to find one in the mall once you get a good working Shift.
I really don't want those kids touching my phone....
lol, Ive been thinking about bricking my phone to try and get a nexus s 4g
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lol, Ive been thinking about bricking my phone to try and get a nexus s 4g
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Thought the same but I love our small community. I can only hope my next phone has yet another small community so that I get to know everyone like I do here
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YoungCorruptionV2.0 said:
Thought the same but I love our small community. I can only hope my next phone has yet another small community so that I get to know everyone like I do here
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The more i think about it the more i dont really care.
Honestly, i dont do much with my phone because im stingy with my battery life and ram lol
I honestly dont know why i want a more powerful phone, so I'm just gonna give my shift a good use until its time to upgrade or use my insurance.
If i get offered a nexus though, im taking it.
Not willing to ditch this guy yet, I didnt think I was gonna need/like the slideout keyboard, but now I love it lol
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It's not a problem with the shift that I've seen very frequently. I've gone through 4 shifts. I say you should give the Shift another chance. It's the best phone Sprint has short of a nexus prime and if you're like me, you don't want a nexus prime because there's no keyboard.
edit/note: Make sure you try and get a Sprint store rep to send you a REPLACEMENT rather than going through asurion. Make sure you express your extreme dissatisfaction, time lost, and the fact that you are considering cancelling your account. This is the biggest thing that is hurting Sprint right now, customer retention, so I'm pretty sure that would help. If it doesn't go to another Sprint store, call Sprint customer service, ask for a supervisor, and express your extreme dissatisfaction with the service you received at that store.
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The Shift is obviously not the best phone Sprint has. Don't be a schmuck, get the Nexus.
*if you didn't wipe /system and /boot it is NOT A FULL WIPE*
jesusice said:
The Shift is obviously not the best phone Sprint has. Don't be a schmuck, get the Nexus.
*if you didn't wipe /system and /boot it is NOT A FULL WIPE*
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What is sprint's best phone - e4gt?
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sdk234 said:
What is sprint's best phone - e4gt?
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Maybe... maybe straight hardware wise... but if you're looking for a phone with a good amount of development I think you'll be disappointed with it. Same goes for the E3D and the Design. If I were getting a new phone I'd wait until the Galaxy Nexus is released. There may be phones with better hardware but hardware is kinda like benchmarks - good for comparing your e-penis but doesn't necessarily determine how the actual user experience is. The pure Nexus experience really is nice and the Galaxy Nexus will have a lot of great development for a long time to come. Personally I'm really pleased with my Nexus S and don't think I'll grow tired of it before my next upgrade in 10 months.
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Maybe... maybe straight hardware wise... but if you're looking for a phone with a good amount of development I think you'll be disappointed with it. Same goes for the E3D and the Design. If I were getting a new phone I'd wait until the Galaxy Nexus is released. There may be phones with better hardware but hardware is kinda like benchmarks - good for comparing your e-penis but doesn't necessarily determine how the actual user experience is. The pure Nexus experience really is nice and the Galaxy Nexus will have a lot of great development for a long time to come. Personally I'm really pleased with my Nexus S and don't think I'll grow tired of it before my next upgrade in 10 months.
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Can't find it right now, but I'm pretty sure I saw a comparison (maybe phonedog?) of the Galaxy Nexus vs e4gt and nexus was REALLY laggy going from portrait to landscape compared to e4gt. Of course it was stock vs. stock . . .
Seems to me that development for the shift is great. Seems like e4gt is a really popular phone, hmmm .. . - is development worse because of something intrinsic to the phone?
I have owned my Shift since the day it came out. My friend has one and so does my brother. All working, no problems what's so ever. I love this little guy and I'm sorry you were having bad luck with faulty hardware.
My dad has a Samsung Epic no problems I guess.
I really want ICS but like the physical keyboard to get the Nexus.
I think the pre-ordered ones were a beta firmware or were pre-production, because I just exchanged mines today at a corporate AT&T store and it just seems better and more fluid.
On the pre-ordered, when I check to see if there were a software update, I would get an error, but the in-store version will just say that I'm up to date. I can now view my playlist on the stock music player, which the in-store version would not. Also, when I get a notification, I get a bubble on the lock screen that tells me that, something the pre-order didn't do. The in-store version just feels smoother overall, thus I think Samsung must've screwed something up with the mad rush to get the phones out to everyone.
Interesting. I just read an article about the international S3 getting an update that made the UI smoother and had different radios. One of my friends got the Sprint S3 and it didn't have the launcher redraw issue I have.
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perhaps you just had a bad phone; i dont have any of those issues on mine.
Was there any hassle in exchanging phones? My Wi-Fi seems to work about 70% of the time.
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They definitely changed the build quality....I preordered mine on the 13th and th back cover doesn't close completely flush in a corner....then I ordered one for the wife on the 28th and that one snaps in just fine! It's not the cover as I tried hers on mine (same gap)...
My pre-order seems ok, no errors at all. I see a small gap different from the other side though lol :-/ wouldn't have noticed if u didn't say either lol
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There is nothing different about the pre-order phones, you just happened to get a dud, apparently. It happens.
My phone does all of the things your 'in-store' one does, and has from day 1.
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There is nothing different about the pre-order phones, you just happened to get a dud, apparently. It happens.
My phone does all of the things your 'in-store' one does, and has from day 1.
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I am of this same thought. There are going to be defective units out there. That's what happens in manufacturing (both hardware and software). Sometimes software doesn't "stick", sometimes molds get out of line. It happens.
Mine has issues with wifi, issues with bluetooth, random apps force closing regularly, voice control/s voice not working (opens then just closes) and wont check for updates (I get that server communication error thing).
My new one is on the way to replace the one I pre-ordered last month (middle of the month some time).
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There is nothing different about the pre-order phones, you just happened to get a dud, apparently. It happens.
My phone does all of the things your 'in-store' one does, and has from day 1.
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Same here, my pre order has been fantastic.
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As long as hardware is good im okay with it. Thanks to xda it WILL NOT stay stock anyways.
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My t mobile is perfectly fine too..no issues what so ever..loving it
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My pre-order is a mess.... between the loose volume rocker that rattles like the cans behind a limo leaving a wedding and the robotic voices that the front speaker produces on a call, I can't wait to bring mine back for an exchange! I love this phone though, and considering I use Bluetooth for any call I ever make (was waiting on my newest one to arrive or else I would have never known about the horrible speaker), I'm not going to ***** about it anywhere else online for Apple fanboys to fuel their fire....
Best Buy pre-order, AT&T customer, Silver Rewards member, picked it up on 6/28/12, going to return it 59 days from the date of purchase so I can beat this thing up without a case or screen protector until then and see how it holds up!
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As long as hardware is good im okay with it. Thanks to xda it WILL NOT stay stock anyways.
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I'd be careful with this line of thought. If a unit has a difficult time caring out "stock" tasks, then isn't it possible an "aftermarket" program would cause even more issues?
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I'd be careful with this line of thought. If a unit has a difficult time caring out "stock" tasks, then isn't it possible an "aftermarket" program would cause even more issues?
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We are not on same page bro. Im talking about roms kernels modems. Not apps.
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We are not on same page bro. Im talking about roms kernels modems. Not apps.
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I know exactly what you mean. I wasn't talking about apps.
Are the ROMs, Kernels and modems ALL built totally from scratch? Or, are they pulled from predefined configuration and then tweaked and massaged to the liking of the user? (an Aftermarket build that starts with the stock build and tweaked from there).
So, if the stock build has issues running on a particular unit (defective) what reasoning says it would run better when the ROM/Kernel/Modem is modified to suite the users' tastes? It's really a toss up isn't it? Are we breaking these phones down and physically testing each circuit and then saying "OK all hardware is fine, it must be this one line of code that is the issue."?
My point is, would you build a house on a cracked foundation (defective from factory)?
But, if the foundation is torn down completely and rebuilt from the ground up, then you can have a very stable house. Which I believe is more where you are coming from, and correct me if I am wrong. I am after all a noob. That's not a smart a** comment, I am new to Linux/Android.
NIKKG said:
I think the pre-ordered ones were a beta firmware or were pre-production, because I just exchanged mines today at a corporate AT&T store and it just seems better and more fluid.
On the pre-ordered, when I check to see if there were a software update, I would get an error, but the in-store version will just say that I'm up to date. I can now view my playlist on the stock music player, which the in-store version would not. Also, when I get a notification, I get a bubble on the lock screen that tells me that, something the pre-order didn't do. The in-store version just feels smoother overall, thus I think Samsung must've screwed something up with the mad rush to get the phones out to everyone.
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So what does a program like Antutu Benchmark's information page (or some other system info program) say for details of the new phone? Let us know when you check and what you used to check it. I have probably one of the earliest shipping AT&T phones (received fedex on 6/22) so I'd like to compare component version numbers and such. I get the error on the update check and I don't recall getting a "bubble" on the lock screen. Could you post a screenshot of what you mean by that?
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