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do all incredibles have grounding issues

I contacted HTC and discussed the grounding issue my phone is experiencing (screen unresponsive when ungrounded.) I asked if exchanging would fix the issue and was told all incredibles suffer from it. I would just like to confirm that people have incredibles that function when touched with only one finger on an ungrounded surface such as the arm of leather sofa.

What exactly is ungrounded?
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what is your phone set on when trying to use it?
If the object the phone is sitting on has more charge (and the phone is not in a case) than the object touching the screen (your finger) then it won't work. All capacitive touch screens work this way... at least, that's my understanding. I have never had the unresponsive screen issue, but my phone is also in a case.

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basically a non conductive surface (example leather couch arm). Mine doesn't even work on most wood tables unless i make a second point of contact.

I have not experienced it, and I tried on various objects after seeing videos of the problem, but it seems like it's a somewhat random problem. I think it has to do with the object having a static charge.
Are you in an very dry environment?
Edit: If you can use one, a case may help.

I'm on my second phone, both of them did it.

I just got my incredible last week, I love it but this is annoying me. The people at the store act like they have never heard of the issue and HTC said getting it replaced wouldn't help. I am considering trying the x or waiting on the fascinate, however I just want to know if and likely when i switch back, should i consider this flaw a necessary evil that goes along with owning this phone? would you say the majority of peoples phones work fine?

I've actually never had a grounding issue with my phone, though that may be because I have a case on it.
The only trouble I've had is the screen freezes when I wake it up, albeit VERY rarely. My boyfriend has the same problem, so I know it's not just me.

i hardly ever notice it. a few times i noticed it was this situation
i have the phone laying on my bed and i wake it up and try to unlock it (using the pattern lock) and it won't work or i have to try several times beacause it reads my touch as jumping around.
99.9% of the time though i'm holding the phone in my hand when i'm using it so i never notice it.

I may be wrong here, BUT. I think the 2.2 leak fixes it. i had the problem before the leak, sometimes when trying to scroll through apps or something with the phone laying on my bed it would think i'm long pausing on an app or it wouldn't scroll right. now it seems to be flawless.. only tested it for a few minutes trying to reproduce it, but still. usually it only took a few seconds to notice it.

shortbushemi said:
I may be wrong here, BUT. I think the 2.2 leak fixes it. i had the problem before the leak, sometimes when trying to scroll through apps or something with the phone laying on my bed it would think i'm long pausing on an app or it wouldn't scroll right. now it seems to be flawless.. only tested it for a few minutes trying to reproduce it, but still. usually it only took a few seconds to notice it.
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could you test something for me since you have the leak? try a pattern lock and see how it goes.

FWIW, mine has had this issue from the start. Bugs me a little, but not enough to replace the handset.

the337 said:
could you test something for me since you have the leak? try a pattern lock and see how it goes.
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my first incredible had the unresponsive screen, verizon replaced it and that one had it as well, I installed the leaked froyo and the problem is no longer there.

the337 said:
could you test something for me since you have the leak? try a pattern lock and see how it goes.
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I have had the same problem you have had with both my bed and my couch. After reading the posts here I tried it and it seem that 2.2 has fixed it since I no longer have the problem. Not sure how thats possible if its a grounding issue but its fixed.

While I was unrooted, preparing to flash the leak, I went into the store and got them to exchange my phone. The new one works perfectly but i never tried the leak on the old one. I was told however, via HTC email, that it would not be fixed via update due to being a hardware issue. here is what they sent me. A stated earlier, my new phone now functions perfectly and my name isn't snoopy.
Dear snoopy
Hello snoopy, "Thank you for contacting HTC. I understand how important it is to have your HTC customized to your specifications. I am not sure which HTC device you are writing about, but there is an issue with the Androids. The touchscreen sensor is inconsistent, particularly when the phone is not grounded. Just putting a hand on the device grounds it just fine. This is a physical issue so updates will not resolve it. You do have the option to contact your provider for exchange. James, I hope I have answered your inquiry in sufficient detail. Please feel free to contact HTC at any time in the future. HTC Technical Support www.htc.com/us www.twitter.com/htc www.facebook.com/htc"
i was also told on the phone that exchanging wouldn't fix the issue, however it certainly did correct it.

spazzxb said:
While I was unrooted, preparing to flash the leak, I went into the store and got them to exchange my phone. The new one works perfectly but i never tried the leak on the old one. I was told however, via HTC email, that it would not be fixed via update due to being a hardware issue. here is what they sent me. A stated earlier, my new phone now functions perfectly and my name isn't snoopy.
Dear snoopy
Hello snoopy, "Thank you for contacting HTC. I understand how important it is to have your HTC customized to your specifications. I am not sure which HTC device you are writing about, but there is an issue with the Androids. The touchscreen sensor is inconsistent, particularly when the phone is not grounded. Just putting a hand on the device grounds it just fine. This is a physical issue so updates will not resolve it. You do have the option to contact your provider for exchange. James, I hope I have answered your inquiry in sufficient detail. Please feel free to contact HTC at any time in the future. HTC Technical Support www.htc.com/us www.twitter.com/htc www.facebook.com/htc"
i was also told on the phone that exchanging wouldn't fix the issue, however it certainly did correct it.
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No but your name must be James ;p
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luniz7 said:
No but your name must be James ;p
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How ever did you know that?. I just removed the places with my full name, not worried about being 1 in a million people with the name James so its all good.

G2 Shut off by itself this morning and won't turn on.

Early this morning, I unplugged my G2 from the outlet before leaving to work. The damn thing just shut off and won't turn on again...
I tried the power button, the optical pad button+power, took out the battery and back in multiple times, many times plugged in and not plugged in.
What a POS phone, I mean we get a 1.3gb usable space not the advertised 4gb, it also "corrects" itself with a hidden mirror OS so it's very difficult to root, plus the damn loose hinges and the screen ribbon exposed when the hinges are fully opened, the screen also has a very subtle yellow hue, plus reports of random reboots, market problem where google goggles won't install, live wallpapers crashing and freezing up, and finally the POS just dying on me when I need it for work.
If you have a G2 with no problems (yeah right) then congrats. I'm really considering withdrawing from the extended contract and going with the iFail.
Sorry for the rant, just a little pissed off and the customer service lady was a real *****.

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Yup. Oh BTW. The e39 is also a POS.

You're not alone, man. Between this and the Vibrant headache, I fear my days with T-Mo are numbered. It was a fun decade, but it doesn't look as if they plan to change their course anytime soon.
Unless, of course, they want to start carrying the Desire HD?
We'll see what G2 #2 brings tomorrow. If it's more of the same problems, I will be a disappointed man.

This happened to me too. But I managed to power it back on after fiddling with removing the battery.

Yeah my g2 refused to turn on a couple of times now without taking out the battery and putting it back in.
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Yup. Oh BTW. The e39 is also a POS.
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Sweet observation. You should stay away from both then.

I don't blame you. T-Mobile's customer service has been **** for me too. First they tell me I can exchange it at the store only to have the store tell me no, sorry you have to ship it back. Then they make me pay for shipping, too. As far as the G2 goes, it broke while in my pocket, so no thanks. Maybe they'll rework the hinges soon. Otherwise, I'm just gonna use this crappy ass G1 until the Desire HD comes around.

mines shut off this morning.. first, my on-screen Android Keyboard went missing.. so I shut it off, turned it back on. Then it asked me if I'd give access permission to Google App Engine?? Are they going to start monitoring my apps now?? Just asking? Don't know what that does.. anyways, so after that.. my G2 just sat there til I wen t to go check the time and my phone was off! tried to turn it back on and it wouldn't! So I took the battery out and rebooted. Its on now but this is the second time this week! And not to mention my hinges are starting to become an issue as well! Not cool! They need to bring the Desire HD over so I can replace my G2 with that!

Yeah it happen to my g2 as well. This phone is really not making my android experience any good. tmo need to address these issues ASAP, and i work for them!!! im going to check the "known issues" on the g2 when i get into work 2mrow and see wat is up with this.
i suggest you all who is having these issues to give tmo a call so they have enough calls from customers to generate a ticket with HTC and lvl3 techs to address these issues. Just because tmo is not on these forums and reading about customers issues.

my phone turned off yesterday and also this morning. idk if maybe me trying to snooze the alarm accidently turned it off so im putting my phone in a diff location tonight and checking tomorrow-- if its off tomorrow im calling tmo asap!

My G2 just shut off itself when I was replying to a text. I pulled the battery and reseated it and try turning on but it does not do anything. If I connect it to the charger, the orange charging led just flashes on and off. It's been 20 minutes and I have not been able to turn it back on.

OMG, the desire's symptom comes to G2

Mine as well.
Well my G2 just turned it self off as well today. It was unresponsive to the power button. Took battery out and re-installed and powered back on and has been working ever since but thats just not right.
Edit: Not sure if this is worth anything but this happened shortly after I put the market widget on my home. I've had Beautiful Widget running for a week so don't think that was the problem but not even sure if the market one caused it but thought it might be worth mentioning.

Mine has also soft reboot back to the G2 screen 2 or 3 times now. Dunno what's going on
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I have had this happen twice. In fact, my phone is in that state now. I am going to the TMO store. However, if I decide to return the phone, it isn't for this issue alone. As a side note, I thought this had happened to me with the TMO phone I was playing with in store before I bought mine.
If you take the battery out, wait about 10seconds, and re-install it you will be able to power the phone back up. Anyway, this behavior could be due to either a bad part or a driver problem.
*UPDATE*
Sadly, after talking to the TMO rep at the store, I elected to return the phone rather than exchange. While they wouldn't say how many, they have gotten "several" phones back because of this. My hats off to the Seattle TMO store as they made the return non-hassle and because I was returning it due to a defect, I didn't have to pay the restocking fee.

gjvah said:
Sweet observation. You should stay away from both then.
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Sound advice, especially regarding the e39.

Hey guys,
After another freeze, I was able to actually connect via ADB. The shell was working fine.
Anyways, I did a logcat, and I saw the attached code looping.
http://pastebin.com/DV3uVYJg
It just keeps looping on these audio logs.
Any thoughts?
Anyone else get logcats similar or different than this?
-oldsk00lz

Fuskand said:
This happened to me too. But I managed to power it back on after fiddling with removing the battery.
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2nd that. 10 chars

I had the same issue with my phones screen would just shut off and I would have to pull the battery out just to get it back on. I called tmobile and the answer I get is "that is not a known issue but def we will look into it". So all I did was go back to a tmobile store and trade it out for another one. Hopefully this won't happen again.
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Touch Screen Issues (Sporadic but REALLY bad)

My fiance's Evo Shift has sporadic problems with the touch screen. We can't replicate it on demand so the Sprint techs refuse to believe it's actually broken (we've been in 3-4 times).
Basically, it will just go crazy sometimes. We can literally set the phone down and watch her notifications bar jump up and down all over the screen. Her contacts will open and it will start calling people, disconnect the call, then call someone else...all on it's own.
It's as if it becomes hypersensitive and registers touches that aren't there. It's in a completely random fashion but makes the phone unusable for a good amount of time. Sprint forced her to the 2.3.3 update so I can't root it, though I'm not sure I'd want to anyway in case I found a tech who actually knew what the hell they were doing (very rare with Sprint in this area, at least.)
Any ideas on what's causing it? I am convinced it's hardware but Sprint won't replace the phone because it happens to sporadically. Could it be software? Is there a screen calibration tool I can use without being root?

Go into menu-settings-Language & Keyboard-Touch Input settings-Text input-Calibration tool. Folow the prompts. May or may not help.

If they won't fix it in the store and prboy's suggestion doesn't work you should call Sprint and talk to someone. They aren't doing their job otherwise. You shouldn't have to deal with a phone that isn't working properly. It would be different if you were trying to get a free upgrade to an EVO 3D or trying to replace a beat up phone for free or something which it doesn't sound like you are doing. Mentioning you have heard good things about the competition will usually seal the deal if it comes down to it as well.
Car dealerships do this too and it really pisses me off. It can really be hard to diagnose an intermittent problem and they blow you off because of it. They should give you the benefit of the doubt and switch out your phone. Why would you be there if you weren't having issues.

The calibration prboy suggested doesnt sound like itll work because thats only for the htc ime keyboard.
You said it happened on 2.2 then sprint told you to upgrade to the 2.3.3 OTA update and it still has problems?

Yes, that's exactly what happened. FIRST they told me it was the app Lookout that was causing the problem...that they had an internal memo from Sprint saying it was malware and to delete it. They refused to even look at the phone further until we removed Lookout from her device. Then they sent us home and told us to download the 2.3 update and it would fix the issue.
It didn't and that Sprint tech REALLY made me want to punch him in the face. Incredibly condescending.

ZachSka87 said:
Yes, that's exactly what happened. FIRST they told me it was the app Lookout that was causing the problem...that they had an internal memo from Sprint saying it was malware and to delete it. They refused to even look at the phone further until we removed Lookout from her device. Then they sent us home and told us to download the 2.3 update and it would fix the issue.
It didn't and that Sprint tech REALLY made me want to punch him in the face. Incredibly condescending.
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Well first off lookout security protects you from the very thing they said it is so dont listen to that.
If it is happening on both updates then it probably is not Software that is the problem.
Is there alot of times where you press something and it doesnt work and you keeps touching it? maybe it is finally registering those touches after you leave it be and thats why. it reads those touch inputs all at once and performs them

I suppose it could be that, but how could we stop that from happening? Stop them from 'queuing' up in such a manner?

notsointeresting said:
The calibration prboy suggested doesnt sound like itll work because thats only for the htc ime keyboard.
You said it happened on 2.2 then sprint told you to upgrade to the 2.3.3 OTA update and it still has problems?
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It also calibrates the finger touch response for the screen. To the individual using it, we all press the screen differently.
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If it is happening on both updates then it probably is not Software that is the problem.
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Agreeded. As long as it happens even before you install any apps. Like right after a just doing a phone reset back to factory.

If its because its responding to finger touches at a later time then that usually is a problem with the hardware like the processor. Since it sounds like a hardware issue i can only suggest take it to sprint and show them the problem

I had the same problem with my first shift just call them talk to the tech. dep. Tell them your problem and the will set you up with a new phone they did it for me. But it does sound like what happened with my old one.
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Earlier hardware builds of the shift had problems like mine would overheat like crazy
Hardware 0003 and any lower
i got a new one with hardware version 0004 and ive been fine since

Happened to me, eventually the whole screen will stop taking touch commands. I got a refurb from sprint for 30$.

NinjaMan691 said:
Happened to me, eventually the whole screen will stop taking touch commands. I got a refurb from sprint for 30$.
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that sucks i swore to myself ill never get a refurb smartphone because with my luck it wouldnt be in "like new" condition

S III died yesterday

Hi guys!
Just wanted to share my pain, hope you won´t mind...
This is what happened:
Yesterday I came home from work, pulled my S3 out of my pocket and saw it was turned off. I tried to turn it on, but no luck. The phone was dead! Tried pulling the battery out, leaving it alone for more than 10 mins... tried to boot it into recovery - nothing. Tried the download mode - no signs of life at all. It was just a shiny brick! Putting it on charger didn´t help. No reaction, no led flashing, NOTHING! And just half an hour before everything was fine.
I was running the latest official AOKP build the last couple of days, so I really don´t believe that the software has something to do with it since I didn´t flash anything yesterday. The other question is now if the Samsung guys will notice that the phone wasn´t running stock software and that the warranty is actually void... I hope they won´t! But if they too won´t be able to turn it on, I guess they won´t!
I took the phone to the Samsung service center this morning and didn´t receive any feedback yet. As soon as I know something I´ll share it.
Did anyone happen something similar to this?

awww sorry to hear that , i am sure its covered in warranty

I don't understand the warranty thing, if the phone is dead and not due to you installing a Rom or kernel or modding it then can't really see any reason to refuse fixing or replacing it.
If however it was because of the reason that you did install things then I can see how the warranty is void.
Hope you get it seen to
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In 2013, rooting won't be illegal. Too bad it happened to your device, that is just bad luck.
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i don't know where you live but i'm pretty sure rooting is not illegal anywhere it just voids your warranty. removing the simlock is an entirely different story

Has happened to me too, 1 week after purchase (got stuck on the Samsung Galaxy SIII on boot). Got mine replaced right there and then but i'm left wondering about the quality of the phone. I get it that there are always problems with every product but i see so many people reporting the same lately i start thinking it may be chronic. Some component failing or some batch where something went wrong..
Sorry to hear that, they are an absolute pain in the ass with warranty in my country. They didn't even want to replace mine because the dude was claiming the back of my phone was slightly scratched (i wasn't, even) and they are quite anal about modded phones but, wish you the best of lucks!

Jcossack88 said:
In 2013, rooting won't be illegal. Too bad it happened to your device, that is just bad luck.
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Could you please be a little bit more precise? Is this a rumor or a new law to get passed?

exaclty the same happened to me. just in the middle of the day i realized that my sg3 was off. tried to turn it on but it didnt react. later at home i tried to charge but had the same bad result.
my biggest problem was, that it was rooted and running on a custom firmware since they tell you at every point, that you lose your warranty doing that...
after several hours of trying / searching and reading i became sure, that it would be an hardware fault and sent it to a local cellphone-support center.
they needed about 2 weeks to find out the problem, order a new main board, fix it and luckily didnt care about my custom firmware. they even updated it to the latest offical 4.1!
2 day ago i got it back and became happy - in this 2 weeks i realized how much i depend on this little thing
soo... i feel with you on this and good luck!

ch0ka said:
Could you please be a little bit more precise? Is this a rumor or a new law to get passed?
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It is for the US, YMMV. Droid Life Article/

budx said:
exaclty the same happened to me. just in the middle of the day i realized that my sg3 was off. tried to turn it on but it didnt react. later at home i tried to charge but had the same bad result.
my biggest problem was, that it was rooted and running on a custom firmware since they tell you at every point, that you lose your warranty doing that...
after several hours of trying / searching and reading i became sure, that it would be an hardware fault and sent it to a local cellphone-support center.
they needed about 2 weeks to find out the problem, order a new main board, fix it and luckily didnt care about my custom firmware. they even updated it to the latest offical 4.1!
2 day ago i got it back and became happy - in this 2 weeks i realized how much i depend on this little thing
soo... i feel with you on this and good luck!
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Thanks!
This is actually what I´m thinking... that the motherboard died... I just hope that tomorrow or on wednesday, I will at least get informed what is wrong with it... Don´t even dare to think how long it will take to have it again... And yes... I depend on it too!!! Maybe even too much!!! LOL

spotlight79 said:
Hi guys!
Just wanted to share my pain, hope you won´t mind...
This is what happened:
Yesterday I came home from work, pulled my S3 out of my pocket and saw it was turned off. I tried to turn it on, but no luck. The phone was dead! Tried pulling the battery out, leaving it alone for more than 10 mins... tried to boot it into recovery - nothing. Tried the download mode - no signs of life at all. It was just a shiny brick! Putting it on charger didn´t help. No reaction, no led flashing, NOTHING! And just half an hour before everything was fine.
I was running the latest official AOKP build the last couple of days, so I really don´t believe that the software has something to do with it since I didn´t flash anything yesterday. The other question is now if the Samsung guys will notice that the phone wasn´t running stock software and that the warranty is actually void... I hope they won´t! But if they too won´t be able to turn it on, I guess they won´t!
I took the phone to the Samsung service center this morning and didn´t receive any feedback yet. As soon as I know something I´ll share it.
Did anyone happen something similar to this?
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Stop flashing whatever roms you don't know ,or u will suffer a sever consequence "i'm talking about hard brick" .READ FORUMS AND TUTORIALS

Mine completely died just about 2 weeks ago, stock rom but rooted. Dropped it off at a service centre and got it back today with a shiny new motherboard (and JB)... As long as it's properly dead, they can't tell what's on it as the only way to revive it is to change the innards.
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Stop flashing whatever roms you don't know ,or u will suffer a sever consequence "i'm talking about hard brick" .READ FORUMS AND TUTORIALS
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Dude, I´m not a noob, what happened has nothing to do with software.

I entirely accept that this is a generalism and as such is bound to attract a hoard of punters contradicting it, but in many years on these boards I can recall few if any instances where repairs have been refused due to the installation of non-standard ROMs. It is sensible for manufacturers to discourage the practice - XDA-Developers is plagued with ill-informed noobs charging off to do things beyond their technical capabilities without doing adequate research - but I suspect a refusal to play the game would be counterproductive.
That said, I would always be inclined to revert back to a stock ROM and clean up a bit if I had the option before doing a return for repair.

its the same thing that happened to my phone running cm10 about 2 days ago.
sent my phone in for repairs to samsung. they probably won't be able to find out it was modified. probably needs to change hardware to even boot the phone up.
disappointing experience. :/

by any means, did you played with the clock levels?
oc/uc?

Jcossack88 said:
In 2013, rooting won't be illegal. Too bad it happened to your device, that is just bad luck.
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It's not illegal. You won't go to prison or even get sued (Android is not Apple). It just void your warranty.
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just got back my phone.
They fixed it even though I rooted & had custom rom installed.
Guess they couldn't tell as the phone couldn't even start up. hahah.
Now restoring the latest nandroid I had.

Nice to here that pal, hope this will not happen to anyone in future... this is my 2nd GS 3 (first broken due to Barca loss vs Madrid in August) and never had hardware problems.

So... here I am again...
Got my phone back yesterday. And it was the motherboard so they replaced it.
Man was I happy to have my phone back! But... my hapiness didn't last long.
When I came home I had to discover that now the gyroscope is not working. No autorotate whatsoever, no games that require the accelerometer...
Means they just replaced the mother board, flashed the latest firmware but didn't bother to test the device.
So tomorrow I'm going back to the service center and I'm going to yell my soul out at whoever responsible...
Unbelievable!
(screen rotation is checked, I tried calibrating the gyro, pulling out the battery, etc...)
This is such a disappointing experience... I'll think twice before buying a Samsung phone again...

I am very disappointed with Google

To whomsoever it may concern. Yes that's what my state of mind is right now.
I will begin from the beginning then.
So heard on 4th October 2016 that google is launching it's Pixel phones. Couldn't have been more excited with the news as I am a big android fan boy. I had been using the Nexus 6p then, so the news of the Pixel phones was really pleasing to me.
I wait for the Pixels to get launched in India. 26th October 2016 is the date. I pre-order my Pixel XL very silver 128 GB before hand and receive the handset on 26th! Very happy!!
I haven't ever used a better phone than the Pixel XL. The smoothest android experience. Period.
So a month passes by. The phone does overheat from time to time but other than that it worked fine. My "rock solid" Pixel XL gets about 40 GB full. One fine day, while I was trying to open a PDF from my drive, the device freezes and reboots. Nothing to worry, sometime android does that, I think to myself. Same day, Gmail freezes and the phone reboots. Then the Camera freezes and it reboots. Now I started to see a pattern. Tried uninstalling apps one by one, to pin point the root cause. Found nothing. Tried Safe Mode. Still it would freeze and reboot. Finally, made my peace with a factory reset. The phone started behaving. I told myself that I must be some rogue app.
This cycle continues again when the phone reaches that 40 GB mark. It would freeze and reboot. Factory reset once again. It works fine.
So I start suspecting the phone internal memory. I fill up the around 80 GB with random videos and music. The restarts start happening like clockwork.
Come 6th December 2016, and I receive the 7.1.1 update. Everything goes smooth. The phone acts normal, for sometime at least. I call up Google Support on the 8th and the guy tells me to take my phone to the service center.
Moments after, I see my phone restarting. It boots up and it's sitting on my table. In about five minutes, while lying idle on the table, it reboots. And this time, it reboots to boot-loader. I try to start the phone with the power key and the volume keys by choosing the right option. It boots back to boot-loader. Doesn't load up android. So somehow my phone was soft bricked just sitting idle on the table.
I am not new to the fastboot mode and decide to flash the stock rom. However, there is this issue that i suddenly see. The fastboot screen on my phone says Baseband : N/A and my bootloader is locked! The only option I see to get android up and running is using stock recovery and sideloading the Stock ROM, which should have worked as Google Stock ROMS are signed and might have not need unlocked bootloader(I did my research). I select recovery, and surprise surprise! The phone says recovery can't be loaded, press any key to go back!!
So now my phone has no OS, no baseband, no recovery with a locked bootloader! And i don't know how it happened!
I take the phone to the service center today around 11 am. They can't make sense of what happened. They say they would keep the phone for sometime. I get a call from them around 4, which was like half an hour back. The guy tells me there is a power button issue and another hardware issue(which he doesn't specify) and tells me they will keep the phone for 2 days. And repair it!
WHAT!?! WHY THE HELL ARE YOU REPAIRING MY PHONE GOOGLE!?! It's a new phone, not even 2 months old! And it doesn't come cheap! For the price amount I would expect it to work flawlessly!! I ask the service guy for replacement unit, and he says it is more than 14 days old, and gives me all terms and conditions! The problems that I had with this phone couldn't have been foreseen!! Till the time the internal storage gets to about 30 percent full the restarting issue did not show itself.
I expect a replacement unit or a full refund. Because this is just not fair! Not really happy with you Google. Thanks!
P.S.: thanks for reading this.

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I am not getting it! You mean that the phone you had, had no hardware problems? So if its software only, then why did you submit the phone at service centre at first place? And in case they are offering you a repair service, or a new phone, what is the problem with that? From the sound of it it does sound like a hardware problem anyway, repetitive problems are never software. In fact you should be rather thankful that they accepted the phone and offering you a free service, cause a lot of reviews say that HTC service centre is asking money for a phone which is just one month old and sorts like that.
And you probably are one unlucky fella where the phone might have come with a hardware problem, cause most seem happy with theirs anyway. I am not defending Pixel or its ridiculous price point anyway.

Honestly what's the difference? If they fix it and it's working again then it should be no different than a new unit. unless you've damaged the device and wanted to get a new one with no damage I don't understand.
So if you get a new car from a dealer and it has an issue you would demand a new car instead of letting them repair it? Sounds pretty dumb to me.
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Guarantee this is caused by a bad memory chip. The only way to fix it is to replace the chip (which I highly doubt can be done at a service center) or the motherboard. I had a Nexus 4 that had the same issue. Eventually I could not even write a new system image at all.
At least demand a written explanation of what was done to correct the problem so if it continues after being repaired you can demand a new unit. If they are replacing the board you should be good to go.

So you are angry that Google are fixing the device for you at no charge to yourself? Things go wrong sometimes, sounds like Google are looking after you nicely.
You will get your phone back in the same condition you gave it to them - with the issues resolved.
Or
If they can't fix it, they will replace it.
What's the issue?

Mdizzle1 said:
So you are angry that Google are fixing the device for you at no charge to yourself? Things go wrong sometimes, sounds like Google are looking after you nicely.
You will get your phone back in the same condition you gave it to them - with the issues resolved.
Or
If they can't fix it, they will replace it.
What's the issue?
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He wants a new phone. I understand. From my experience when things like this go wrong like this they keep going wrong. It is a phone not a new car. I am surprised they did not give him a new phone and call it a day.

johnciaccio said:
He wants a new phone. I understand. From my experience when things like this go wrong like this they keep going wrong. It is a phone not a new car. I am surprised they did not give him a new phone and call it a day.
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Agree

Pretty sure that the NAND chips are faulty. That is why after that chip gets written with data, phone starts to act up.
It may not be easy to replace just the faulty chip. Either they will replace the whole logic board or give you a new piece.

ithehappy said:
I am not getting it! You mean that the phone you had, had no hardware problems? So if its software only, then why did you submit the phone at service centre at first place? And in case they are offering you a repair service, or a new phone, what is the problem with that? From the sound of it it does sound like a hardware problem anyway, repetitive problems are never software. In fact you should be rather thankful that they accepted the phone and offering you a free service, cause a lot of reviews say that HTC service centre is asking money for a phone which is just one month old and sorts like that.
And you probably are one unlucky fella where the phone might have come with a hardware problem, cause most seem happy with theirs anyway. I am not defending Pixel or its ridiculous price point anyway.
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It is a hardware problem only, the phone worked fine till the 40 GB or so mark. And yeah, seem to feel unlucky about this now.
Also, I am not bashing HTC for this, they were pretty nice and they are doing their job. I understand that. Just not happy about the situation I am in that's all.

superchilpil said:
Honestly what's the difference? If they fix it and it's working again then it should be no different than a new unit. unless you've damaged the device and wanted to get a new one with no damage I don't understand.
So if you get a new car from a dealer and it has an issue you would demand a new car instead of letting them repair it? Sounds pretty dumb to me.
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I wish i would have damaged the device just so that I would have something to blame this on.
And as for the car issue, you would want a new car, won't you? They will indeed repair it, however, a customer asking for a new car which works doesn't sound dumb to me.

johnciaccio said:
Guarantee this is caused by a bad memory chip. The only way to fix it is to replace the chip (which I highly doubt can be done at a service center) or the motherboard. I had a Nexus 4 that had the same issue. Eventually I could not even write a new system image at all.
At least demand a written explanation of what was done to correct the problem so if it continues after being repaired you can demand a new unit. If they are replacing the board you should be good to go.
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Thought as much. Thanks for reading the long post!!:good:

sanke1 said:
Pretty sure that the NAND chips are faulty. That is why after that chip gets written with data, phone starts to act up.
It may not be easy to replace just the faulty chip. Either they will replace the whole logic board or give you a new piece.
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The problem is when they eventually return the phone, it would be hard for me to understand if the problem persists until I get a PC in front of me and fill up the device. And the problem is pretty random too. Thanks for the reply though.

No problem. Been in similar shoes. You are not getting anything for free here.. It is one of the most expensive phones out there and you paid for a new device. Not one that has been reopened after being assembled. Check it carefully for scratches after getting it back.
I do not even like my car being worked on. Nothing is as perfect as when it comes from the factory.

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Got a faulty Pixel XL, issue with the logic board(based on what i have read on this discussion so far), not really happy with HTC opening my new phone and repairing it. I paid for a new phone and I want a new phone which works! I know I am whining a bit.

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No problem. Been in similar shoes. You are not getting anything for free here.. It is one of the most expensive phones out there and you paid for a new device. Not one that has been reopened after being assembled. Check it carefully for scratches after getting it back.
I do not even like my car being worked on. Nothing is as perfect as when it comes from the factory.
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You read my mind!! Totally agree!!:good:

At least it will be fixed. I purchased my Nexus 4 from a reseller so Google refused to warranty it even though it was completely sealed and new when purchased. Google hates resellers, which I understand the reason, but it is not a good policy to have.

johnciaccio said:
At least it will be fixed. I purchased my Nexus 4 from a reseller so Google refused to warranty it even though it was completely sealed and new when purchased. Google hates resellers, which I understand the reason, but it is not a good policy to have.
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It surely is not a good policy to have. And with the pixel devices the resellers were a part of the launch process. It was not like we had to wait for a few days after it was available online. It was almost the same time. I hope i get my device as soon as possible in working condition, because as I mentioned earlier, I love the phone. Also I have been using a prehistoric Nokia 1100 which I found in some corner of my house as I don't have any other back up device currently.

I'm just impressed that Google had a service center in Bangalore.

Yeah sucks. Let us know how it goes.