RFS Filesystem? Anyone know the answer to this? I would think that this would be a no for sure because a.) Samsung wouldn't surely cripple the Google developer phone with this. B.) Google wouldn't let them I wouldn't think. I would love to know the answer to this because it it does have this I WOULDN'T even begin to consider after sewing how bad it cripples my fascinate.
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A google developer stated that it uses EXT4 and some other filesystem I cannot remember.
If I remember correctly, RFS was put there because Android 2.2- can't handle large internal storage, which has been corrected in 2.3. So logically, there would be no need for RFS in 2.3+
jaju123 said:
A google developer stated that it uses EXT4 and some other filesystem I cannot remember.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=9627089#post9627089
modest_mandroid said:
If I remember correctly, RFS was put there because Android 2.2- can't handle large internal storage, which has been corrected in 2.3. So logically, there would be no need for RFS in 2.3+
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Never heard of that. It's been proven that all the partitions that use RFS can be replaced with EXT4. /system /data /dbdata and /cache. Heck even /efs if you wanted to, but it's not recommended at all.
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A google developer stated that it uses EXT4 and some other filesystem I cannot remember.
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http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2010/12/saving-data-safely.html
From the linked blog post, bold is mine.
The reason this should be of concern to Android developers is that with 2.3, an increasing proportion of devices, notably including the Nexus S, are going to be moving from YAFFS to the ext4 filesystem, which buffers much more aggressively; thus you need to be more assertive about making sure your data gets to permanent storage when you want it to.
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I just want to say thank god it's not RFS.
It makes my Galaxy Spica laggy as.
Well done samsung.
JimJam707 said:
I just want to say thank god it's not RFS.
It makes my Galaxy Spica laggy as.
Well done samsung.
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Well done Google*
JimJam707 said:
I just want to say thank god it's not RFS.
It makes my Galaxy Spica laggy as.
Well done samsung.
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It's all Google at the software end. All Samsung has done for the Nexus S is build the phone according to Google's requests.
What makes me question whether it not android can handle large amounts of internal storage, is the Droid x, it has 8gb so I think that line thinking is out the window.
Edit; it is completely ok if I'm wrong just thought your logic was a littfle off
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It's all Google at the software end. All Samsung has done for the Nexus S is build the phone according to Google's requests.
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not really. Samsung has put together a phone from left over parts from soon to be disconnected Galaxy S. Google didnt request anything.
kolyan said:
not really. Samsung has put together a phone from left over parts from soon to be disconnected Galaxy S. Google didnt request anything.
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Yeah, I think there is an abacus inside
kolyan said:
not really. Samsung has put together a phone from left over parts from soon to be disconnected Galaxy S. Google didnt request anything.
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Really? So the curved screen, the change of internal NAND from Samsung's moviNAND to Sandisk's iNAND, the change of GPS & WiFi antenna, the change of Bluetooth chip & the change in positions of USB & 3.5mm port, all that is because Samsung didn't have THOSE particular left over parts?
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Really? So the curved screen, the change of internal NAND from Samsung's moviNAND to Sandisk's iNAND, the change of GPS & WiFi antenna, the change of Bluetooth chip & the change in positions of USB & 3.5mm port, all that is because Samsung didn't have THOSE particular left over parts?
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Bluetooth is downgraded to 2.1, so yes, I suppose they ran out of 3.0 modules.....curved screen (which i like) and useless NFC chip are the only 2 what you might call improvements....
and i am just curious....how do you know that it has different GPS, WIFI modules, and that it uses different brand storage ? Could you please provide a link to fact.
See the FCC page, it shows that the WiFi & GPS antennas are different. As for the internal storage, see the Nexus S announced thread in General, a guy from Google(Svetlana) has confirmed the same.
Here, links. This is what I mean by, Google has a huge amount of say in this phone. That's why its not just a Galaxy S remodeled.
http://www.intomobile.com/2010/11/29/samsung-nexus-s-fcc/
http://www.talkandroid.com/22376-sa...fcc-with-new-wifi-bluetooth-and-gps-antennas/
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Really? So the curved screen, the change of internal NAND from Samsung's moviNAND to Sandisk's iNAND, the change of GPS & WiFi antenna, the change of Bluetooth chip & the change in positions of USB & 3.5mm port, all that is because Samsung didn't have THOSE particular left over parts?
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They're not using Sandisk's iNand, it's a Samsung product also named iNand. It's the chip that's in teh iPhones.
Rawat said:
They're not using Sandisk's iNand, it's a Samsung product also named iNand. It's the chip that's in teh iPhones.
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http://www.sandisk.com/business-solutions/mobile-handset-vendors/inand
I can't find a link stating that Samsung also has a product called iNAND.
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http://www.sandisk.com/business-solutions/mobile-handset-vendors/inand
I can't find a link stating that Samsung also has a product called iNAND.
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http://bit.ly/fmwwiJ
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4059/nexus-s-and-android-23-review-gingerbread-for-the-holidays/3
See the Anandtech review, lower half of the page. Even they say that the internal memory is Sandisk's iNAND. Need more proof? :/
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If I remember correctly, RFS was put there because Android 2.2- can't handle large internal storage, which has been corrected in 2.3. So logically, there would be no need for RFS in 2.3+
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what is funny, because ext4 (free and available in each linux firmware... just need to say yse compile it) handle that kind of big storage
other fun => the Desire HD had also a big internal memory, but no RFS
conclusion => samsung really don't know what they did ^^
Y'all keep rolling eyes like that and someones gonna twist up an optic nerve!
Family guy anyone?
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Title says it all,
Are the developers here moving to the new developer phone or no?
Can we please forget some of the setbacks for this device and realize what a gem we have? The amazing CPU doesn't miss a beat and I believe is more reliable then the hyped dual cores. (TOO MUCH HYPE !!) 16gb of ROM is plenty enough.
Pure Google is the way too go.
Ok...
16GB of ROM is nice... but are we able to EXT partition that and do the proper apps2sd instead of the stupid froyo based implementation of it the same as we could an SD card? Or does this not matter as it should be mounted automatically anyway? I'm not sure how all that works with built in memory.
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16GB of ROM is nice... but are we able to EXT partition that and do the proper apps2sd instead of the stupid froyo based implementation of it the same as we could an SD card? Or does this not matter as it should be mounted automatically anyway? I'm not sure how all that works with built in memory.
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Same here. Does this mean all storage is available for apps ?
This is very interesting.
If the developers go to the Nexus S, that is where I will going. That is.. if it gets as many ROMs the Nexus One has.
xManMythLegend said:
Same here. Does this mean all storage is available for apps ?
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I'm guessing that about 2GBS will be avaliable for apps. All I know is that it's enough and I REALLY can't wait much longer for this thing to come
I was wondering about that. Awesome. Still torn whether or not I want to retire my N1 yet....
Regarding apps2ext/sd. Why would that be needed if there is 1-2GB of app storage? The N1 has about 200mb. I still haven't filled that up.
El Daddy said:
I was wondering about that. Awesome. Still torn whether or not I want to retire my N1 yet....
Regarding apps2ext/sd. Why would that be needed if there is 1-2GB of app storage? The N1 has about 200mb. I still haven't filled that up.
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If it's 1-2GB storage then I personally won't need EXT, but as it stands if your app storage goes below a certain amount you start to get irritating alerts and your text messages and such stop going through... and if I don't use EXT I reach that point and it's rather annoying.
I hear ya.
Wouldn't it be nice If the user was allowed to partition the remaining internal storage at first boot?
Lets say the nexus s has 14GB left over after /system, radio, etc. It would be cool to decide how much of that space you wanted allocated to apps.
It may be a stupid or impossible idea. I don't know haha.
El Daddy said:
I hear ya.
Wouldn't it be nice If the user was allowed to partition the remaining internal storage at first boot?
Lets say the nexus s has 14GB left over after /system, radio, etc. It would be cool to decide how much of that space you wanted allocated to apps.
It may be a stupid or impossible idea. I don't know haha.
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That would be awesome lmfaoo..
I'm ready to retire anything for this.
Cyanogen?!?!
Any word yet on if he's going to make this *HIS* official device the way he did with the G1 and then the Nexus One? That'll be the biggest factor for me... Or does he only choose devices that end in 1/One?
So this is iphone stile no sd??
N1
fcisco13 said:
So this is iphone stile no sd??
N1
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Yes, sucks. And there is no dual processors. Get a mt4g instead
Quick84 said:
Any word yet on if he's going to make this *HIS* official device the way he did with the G1 and then the Nexus One? That'll be the biggest factor for me... Or does he only choose devices that end in 1/One?
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Look at the support the Evo is getting and its not HIS device. Cyanogen has plenty of love to go around
.... I hope
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I know several other phones get support, but nothing like the G1 did or the Nexus One does... That's all I'm saying...
As for the MT4G, I HATE the MyTouch overlay on everything. It's not a genius button, it's a goofball button... I still will miss the trackball of the N1 and the color customization that comes with it.
he he
I was thinking, this great community has discovered and successfully enabled the hidden FM radio function on Nexus One.
Could there be a hidden SD slot on Nexus S?
I don't think the FM Radio wasn't hidden iirc, It was never programmed into the kernel or the phone. I guess we did learn as a community that the N1 had the right hardware just no software support.
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I know several other phones get support, but nothing like the G1 did or the Nexus One does... That's all I'm saying...
As for the MT4G, I HATE the MyTouch overlay on everything. It's not a genius button, it's a goofball button... I still will miss the trackball of the N1 and the color customization that comes with it.
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That's what custom roms are for. Look like ppl wit be losing more than trackball colors on the nexus s. I was gonna get it also, but after the specs, no thanks
for the memory issue, most likely the NS will follow the GS style of 2GB for apps and about 13GB as the "sd card"
As far as cyanogen goes, i sent him a couple messages on twitter asking his thoughts on the Nexus S and he ignored them. and he hasn't said anything about it on his own so IDK.
They have had MASSIVE issues getting CM to work on any of the samsung devices, but with this one being stock google and being the dev phone, it should be easier to get CM working.
Anyway I don't think Nexus S is enough to be a developer phone.
While most other Android phones have SD and trackball support, Nexus S has neither, how can it still be a developer phone? I thought developer phone should have everything that other phones have.
I think Nexus One is a wonderful developer phone, despite front-camera, there's nothing else that Nexus One is lack of.
Looks like Samsung wised up and accepted ext4 from Google for the Nexus S. If and when we ever get a gingerbread update, it appears the need for voodoo will be gone.
I can't post links, but details of this can be found at androidcentral.
gg101 said:
Looks like Samsung wised up and accepted ext4 from Google for the Nexus S. If and when we ever get a gingerbread update, it appears the need for voodoo will be gone.
I can't post links, but details of this can be found at androidcentral.
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Just because the Nexus S has ext4 doesn't mean that Samsung won't keep RFS for future updates. They would need to find a way to apply the update and convert the partitions all via OTA updates. They may keep the Galaxy S line on RFS just for easier updates.
Sweet, I'm glad Sammy decided to get off of their "selfmade file system" high horse! ext 4 will be nice!
That's because Google is handling the software. They only got the hardware from Samsung. That doesn't mean that the Galaxy S's will be switched. It's extremely unlikely.
GoogleAndroid said:
That's because Google is handling the software. They only got the hardware from Samsung. That doesn't mean that the Galaxy S's will be switched. It's extremely unlikely.
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Touch me, turn me on then burn me down! lol I would say you are probably right...
The rate were going, we wont have to worry about this for years to come
- posted via the fascinating phone Verizon forgot about already.
https://supportforums.motorola.com/thread/47255?tstart=0
And if you are wondering, there is a comment made in another thread that eludes to the fact that an SD card was never promised.
Morkai Almandragon said:
https://supportforums.motorola.com/thread/47255?tstart=0
And if you are wondering, there is a comment made in another thread that eludes to the fact that an SD card was never promised.
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SD card support hinges on Google. Honeycomb doesn't support external storage yet. This is a Google issue, not a Motorola issue.
That is what I have heard...
And you don't think Google and Motorola have discussed this? Come on now, someone knows the answer. My concern is Honeycomb starts to support SD, then the Xoom does not (I do not care why), we are left with a lame duck holding our junk and crying about an 800$ loss.
I'm sure that Toshiba would also be pretty upset if Google decides not to support external storage. They're including an SD card slot in their tablet as well. I'm not sure about all of the others, but there are two manufacturers counting on SD card support.
Morkai Almandragon said:
That is what I have heard...
And you don't think Google and Motorola have discussed this? Come on now, someone knows the answer. My concern is Honeycomb starts to support SD, then the Xoom does not (I do not care why), we are left with a lame duck holding our junk and crying about an 800$ loss.
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Well, then don't be concerned: there's absolutely no reason why Honeycomb would support SD and the Xoom wouldn't. Zero. Zilch. Nada.
The Xoom is being treated as a google expeirance device which puts in the same league of updates as the G1, the Nexus 1, the OG Droid, and the Nexus S. It will get it so stop worrying. This is also the reason for the unlocked boot loader. Now as for when thats a whole other story but the more devices that ship with Honeycomb the better because that will put pressure on google to get the update out.
this might be odd, but what the heck makes it so hard to have SD support in the first place, you would think that this would be one the main functions of the software. I mean, its not like SD cards are new, and not like a million other devices that are running android (not 3.0 but older versions) have SD support. i mean, this confuses me in the first place.
eatonjb said:
this might be odd, but what the heck makes it so hard to have SD support in the first place, you would think that this would be one the main functions of the software. I mean, its not like SD cards are new, and not like a million other devices that are running android (not 3.0 but older versions) have SD support. i mean, this confuses me in the first place.
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I think the problem isn't that honeycomb doesn't support sdcards so much a it doesn't support two. The internal memory is being seen as an sdcard.
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bwcorvus said:
I think the problem isn't that honeycomb doesn't support sdcards so much a it doesn't support two. The internal memory is being seen as an sdcard.
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but with that being said, same thing tho, does my Captivate not have the same setup?
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but with that being said, same thing tho, does my Captivate not have the same setup?
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I'm not sure about the Captivate, but on the Xoom the /data and /sdcard mount points both point to the same logical partition on the internal storage. In most phones, /data has its own partition on the internal storage, and /sdcard is mounted from your sd card slot.
well.. not to argue the point, witch is completely valid, I still do not understand why that was not something that could have been added at the get go.
it just seems simple, as it would require a driver, an just a point in the script to mount it.
Flash, I can see why the issue, new hardware and stuff.
anyways, cant wait to get some SD action, would love to toss some movies on this thing!. (err.. more movies)
the comments on the sd card slot being activated with the 4g is all bs right? Cause I'm getting the wifi one and obviously I'm not sending it in for 4g.
It's a software (honeycomb) thing. It will be enabled with an update. which im sure will be OTA or at least available on XDA
patass said:
the comments on the sd card slot being activated with the 4g is all bs right? Cause I'm getting the wifi one and obviously I'm not sending it in for 4g.
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familiarstranger said:
It's a software (honeycomb) thing. It will be enabled with an update. which im sure will be OTA or at least available on XDA
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I have read this time and time again. But where are you getting your info? Who told you it would be updated?
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the comments on the sd card slot being activated with the 4g is all bs right?
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Yeah, I'm almost 100% sure they pulled that out of their ass, and was confusing the LTE SIM card slot (which is usuaily ultimately attached to a serial port, no special hardware required) with the SD Card slot.
They were probably just hoping it would all get worked out around the same time as the 4G updates.
This is on the Wifi Model listing:
Memory expansion via microSD card slot with support for optional cards up to 32 GB (functionality requires future software upgrade)
Well, the Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 won't have SD card. Might be reason why
smilepak said:
Well, the Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 won't have SD card. Might be reason why
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Do you really think Google created a brand new Android OS that should be around for years to come that will not support SD cards? And on top of that, do you think Motorola working with Google would put an SD slot in the xoom and never activate it?
Really, come on...
Source is available, if for some dumb reason Google doesn't want to support an SD card, motorola can do it themselves.
Is source available?
c0t0d0s2 said:
Source is available, if for some dumb reason Google doesn't want to support an SD card, motorola can do it themselves.
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Credit to DJ Palmis for Source:http://www.samsung.com/uk/support/model/GT-I9300ZKABTU-downloads
Page 20 of the manual:
Just having a quick read through page 20 is a bit worrying
Insert a memory card (optional)
Your device accepts microSD™ or microSDHC™ memory
cards with maximum capacities of 32 GB (depending on the
memory card manufacturer and type).
Your device supports only the FAT file structure for
memory cards.
WTF
Thought it was supposed to support 64gb and Xfat????
Page said 404 - file not found.
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It's most likely an error, since they have openly advertised that the phone will be supporting 64GB SDXC cards
harise100 said:
Page said 404 - file not found.
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Really.... works for me!!
read that too, that should be a misplaced info.
btw the link works fine
bala_gamer said:
read that too, that should be a misplaced info.
btw the link works fine
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I do hope so... Got a 64gb on its way
funb0b said:
I do hope so... Got a 64gb on its way
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Regardless, you can still make it a FAT32 and it will work. You will just have a 4GB limitation which I don't think people will be carrying files that large. But I'm sure it's a typo.
I've never been so excited about reading a user manual.
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I do hope so... Got a 64gb on its way
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as per supercurios info S3 includes a proprietary Samsung exFAT kernel driver, so it should work
SlimJ87D said:
Regardless, you can still make it a FAT32 and it will work. You will just have a 4GB limitation which I don't think people will be carrying files that large. But I'm sure it's a typo.
I've never been so excited about reading a user manual.
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Ya so was I until i got to page 20 lol
I like the sound of page 30
You can use the motion unlock for
unlocking the screen. In the application
list, select Settings → Security → Screen
lock → Motion → OK. To unlock the
screen with the motion unlock, tap and
hold a point on the screen, and then tilt
the device forwards.
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Really.... works for me!!
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If I use my Desktop browser it works.
I hope it will work with 64gb, it's already ordered. Didn't the S2 manual say the same? 32gb+fat?
http://downloadcenter.samsung.com/c...14339308/GT-I9300_UM_EU_Icecream_Eng_Rev.1.0_120511_Screen.pdf
If I understand that bolded text correctly, this manual is from last December.
But the last page says:
English (EU). 05/2012. Rev. 1.0
But it's a definite typo. I think.
Shouldn't let the apprentice do the proof reading
pekkala89 said:
http://downloadcenter.samsung.com/c...14339308/GT-I9300_UM_EU_Icecream_Eng_Rev.1.0_120511_Screen.pdf
If I understand that bolded text correctly, this manual is from last December.
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Yeah most likely it's 5-11-2012. Those foreigners always putting the date in weird formats.
The ICS manual of the S2 reads just the same, word by word and we all know, 64gb sd cards work on the S2.
So I think there is no need to worry, isn't it?!
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Yeah most likely it's 5-11-2012. Those foreigners always putting the date in weird formats.
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That doesn't even make any sense? YYYY-MM-DD is the way to go
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Manual hase been linked today on Samsing official support page.
What about the antenna location and the lack of Mass Storage USN profile?!!
Will it be avaible with any work around?!
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The ICS manual of the S2 reads just the same, word by word and we all know, 64gb sd cards work on the S2.
So I think there is no need to worry, isn't it?!
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Also I recall there's really no difference other than it shouldn't assume max storage is 32GB which some software does.
DJ Palmis said:
Manual hase been linked today on Samsing official support page.
What about the antenna location and the lack of Mass Storage USN profile?!!
Will it be avaible with any work around?!
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What is the problem with the antenna location?
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It is in the bottom, usualy covered by hand..
Do you know Apple's "Antenna Gate"?
First short teardown... unfortunately in German. It seems that the battery can be replaced very easily.
I'm not allowed to post links. Google for areamobile teardown moto g
Three pictures are attached.
Not enough to be removable every day really but good if the battery starts to deteriorate
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is it just me or does that look like the shape of a micro-sd, the metal thing with the blue dot on it.
???
You're right... Motorola has confirmed, that they use an eMMC SD card
Here's the whole article:
http://www.areamobile.de/b/2267-moto-g-teardown-und-die-suche-nach-dem-speicher-update
shaftenberg said:
You're right... Motorola has confirmed, that they use an eMMC SD card
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What does that mean in fool language? Could we upgrade this memory card and get more storage ? I saw that this metal plate is removable and we have access to this memory card.
Don't think, a person with normal soldering equipment will be able to change this without ruining the phone.
Doublepranks said:
What does that mean in fool language? Could we upgrade this memory card and get more storage ? I saw that this metal plate is removable and we have access to this memory card.
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so that's why we don't have external sd card...
i suppose you can't really replace it.
Motorola being a Google company this is a bit of a contradictory move.
Google haven't allowed SD cards in their Nexus devices for a while now because of worries related to failures, slower read and write etc, but here they are using an SD card as the main memory of one of their devices?
Just start building nexus devices with SD card slots again Google and stop this ridiculous apple like behavior.
I wonder if there's any phone with this kind of memory setup. I mean eMMC instead of regular nand? Is it a regular speed / high speed eMMC?
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I don't think this matters that much. Found an interesting article here, don't miss page 2 of this document:
http://www.eetimes.com/document.asp?doc_id=1279018
Thanks good work
shure2 said:
Motorola being a Google company this is a bit of a contradictory move.
Google haven't allowed SD cards in their Nexus devices for a while now because of worries related to failures, slower read and write etc, but here they are using an SD card as the main memory of one of their devices?
Just start building nexus devices with SD card slots again Google and stop this ridiculous apple like behavior.
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Google is a smart company that always find nice PR justifications for what they want to do. The truth is that they won't allow SD cards because they want you use their cloud and / or pay for the extra storage.
Where is the vibration motor? Because I want to replace that thing! It rattles.
LudicrousPeed said:
Where is the vibration motor? Because I want to replace that thing! It rattles.
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Dude totally off topic but your avatar! SKI! Played that game so much as a kid!!!!!! Freaking hate that monster!!!
LudicrousPeed said:
Where is the vibration motor?
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I suppose it is the component right of the camera that you can see on the picture linked in this post.
Whilst you say it seems the battery can be replaced easily.
Where would one find a replacement battery online?? For future knowledge.
Quick google search yields no replacement battery's.
King p1n said:
Whilst you say it seems the battery can be replaced easily.
Where would one find a replacement battery online?? For future knowledge.
Quick google search yields no replacement battery's.
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When the phone is old enough to require aftermarket batteries, don't worry, the Chinese will have them ready.
ares93 said:
When the phone is old enough to require aftermarket batteries, don't worry, the Chinese will have them ready.
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Wouldnt really want a Chineese one lol
Rather have the authentic one:good:, but It'd be nice to have an option I guess.
But anyway I located one on ebay UK not too long after I posted, a Genuine one around £20.
Nice to see theres at least one around, hopefully more will be available a year down the line.
Wont be needed for now but just nice to see whats out there