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Internal memory...

Why does it only show me 1.23GB available fresh out of the box?
I understand the OS itself takes up room, but I know it can't take up 2.5ishGB of it.
Do we really only have 1.5GB internal memory like the Desire Z despite the 4GB claimed on the T-Mobile and HTC websites?

Someone brought up that the space might be set aside for Gingerbread which drops later this year. Could be it.

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Someone brought up that the space might be set aside for Gingerbread which drops later this year. Could be it.
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As nice as that would be, they wouldn't do that and it'd be extra trouble on HTC's part to accomplish...nothing. Even if Gingerbread was a ridiculously major update, it wouldn't account for another 2.5gb of space...
I think the truth is, we got 1.5gb instead of the claimed 4gb.

Also, I have the full system dump on my PC, and it's only weighing in at 1.7GB (This includes the ~1.3GB userdata partition).
If anyone would like to see a screenshot, give me a shout and I'll upload one.

I was thinking that they may have partitioned off a FAT32 section which you could mount to. Vibrant and the Gentouch have done that. Though from a post on tmobiles board, it didn't look like the missing amount was mounted. Total for the partitions was 2169356.
Hmmm..
What do you see when you plug in your USB, just the SDCard, or do you get a notice about an internal memory as well?
-oldsk00lz

Perhaps someone with a G2 on hand could install ConnectBot and run the command
cat /proc/partitions
and post the result here

jashsu said:
Perhaps someone with a G2 on hand could install ConnectBot and run the command
cat /proc/partitions
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major minor #blocks name
179 0 2203648 mmcb1k0
lord there's so many for me to type it'd be ridic, how do I take a screen shot with the phone so I can upload it? Basically though I go from 0 to 33 in that minor category.
I wonder why I have so many partitions (I'm assuming that's what these all are)

Not cool if it doesn't have the claimed 4GB.

If it doesn't have the claimed 4GB, then maybe someone can start a class action lawsuit?

I'm not upset enough that I'd push for a lawsuit, but I do feel kind of let down I don't even think I'll use the full 1.5gb, but I expected 4gb and didn't get what I expected.

Jorsher said:
I'm not upset enough that I'd push for a lawsuit, but I do feel kind of let down I don't even think I'll use the full 1.5gb, but I expected 4gb and didn't get what I expected.
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They advertised it as 4GB, so it must have 4GB. If it doesn't then the class action lawsuit will come and you won't even have to do a thing other than reap a small reward. I feel confident that there is 4GB in there, even if it isn't user accessible.

keyl10 said:
They advertised it as 4GB, so it must have 4GB. If it doesn't then the class action lawsuit will come and you won't even have to do a thing other than reap a small reward. I feel confident that there is 4GB in there, even if it isn't user accessible.
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Yeah, I understand it would come and I'd expect it to, just saying that personally I don't think it's that big of a deal.
Honestly I don't see why they'd make it inaccessible, at least not 2.5gb of it. I'm thinking it's only 1.5gb to match the Desire Z hardware, since everything else is the same as far as hardware.

I could be wrong (I don't have a G2). On my vibrant the available space is saying 12.75GB under "Phone storage" but only 1.47 under "Application storage".
I suspect that there's a set application storage area in android up to maybe 1.5GB and then the rest is for the OS and other data (music, movies, files, etc). The Vibrant's storage is 16GB which translates to around 15.xx. Then Android is taking up 1 or so and pre-installed apps only a tiny fraction (50MB or less)...that's why I'm showing 12.75. It's the remainder of the 15-Android (1 or so GB maybe less)+App Space (1.5GB)

Yeah, maybe it's just hidden space that can be unlocked by a custom rom. If the Desire Z only has 1.5GB total, I just have a hard time seeing why they'd hide 2.5GB on the G2.

^ has anyone called HTC and asked why they might only be seeing such low memory when it was supposed to have 4gb? maybe they can give us an answer?

i agree about the not really caring on the lawsuit bit. but i'm curious to know where it is lol... we didn't buy these phones pre-order cuz it was cheap lol, so if you need the money get hit by a car. more money and easier just step in front... so suing a company like htc whom we like very much would not be cool... just my .02

crr127 said:
i agree about the not really caring on the lawsuit bit. but i'm curious to know where it is lol... we didn't buy these phones pre-order cuz it was cheap lol, so if you need the money get hit by a car. more money and easier just step in front... so suing a company like htc whom we like very much would not be cool... just my .02
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errr - as "uncool" as advertising 4GB and not delivering it??
seriously, i suspect it's there, just locked or hidden for whatever purposes

i'm sure it is there also. it is a brand new phone, i'm sure it is hiding or waiting to be used for something
apps2sd? using it somehow?

I'm going with the missing space being taken up by all the bloat apps.
Sent from my T-Mobile G2.

Drakon911 said:
I'm going with the missing space being taken up by all the bloat apps.
Sent from my T-Mobile G2.
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There are most definitely not 2.5gb of bloat apps.
If there was, it'd be impossible for the considerably-more-bloated Desire Z to cope with only 1.5gb of memory.

[Q] How can i get more than 1GB internal storage mytouch 4g

I got my mytouch 4g and notice there was only about 1GB available. I want to get closer to the 4GB that they say it has. Anyone get more than 1GB on theirs? I rooted but i looked in applications not sure what to uninstall to get the most space available. from what it looks like around 20mb is largest file I see.

It has the same lock down crap as the G2 that is using it.

march7th said:
It has the same lock down crap as the G2 that is using it.
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Yep, have to wait until the hidden partition hack is resolved and full root is achieved
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I find this incredibly shady of tmo to advertise 4GB. If they said 2GB, it would be understandable that some part of that is occupied by the OS and apps. But c'mon, 1/4 of the total? WTF...

HamNCheese said:
I find this incredibly shady of tmo to advertise 4GB. If they said 2GB, it would be understandable that some part of that is occupied by the OS and apps. But c'mon, 1/4 of the total? WTF...
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You guys have to wait for tmo/htc to release a patch or fix for the bug(?). But they may be referring to the total space on the device(inc data/sys/cache) partition combined.

i still think it was false advertisement on their part.. if they would have said 4gb* available were *= 4gb (inc data/sys/cache) then i think a lot of ppl would have been ok with it.
but i just cant return my g2!

-FuRBz- said:
i still think it was false advertisement on their part.. if they would have said 4gb* available were *= 4gb (inc data/sys/cache) then i think a lot of ppl would have been ok with it.
but i just cant return my g2!
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I can understand your frustration (kinda) but wtf would you want 4gb of internal storage for anyway? It's not like you can save music or pictures to it. Even without save to sd you'd be hard pressed to fill up the gig they gave us. Is this just about the principle??
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-FuRBz- said:
i still think it was false advertisement on their part.. if they would have said 4gb* available were *= 4gb (inc data/sys/cache) then i think a lot of ppl would have been ok with it.
but i just cant return my g2!
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to say false advertising is a little out there dont you think? i mean unless this is the first electric device with storage you have ever had :/ anything with storage always includes the stock hardware (look at your ipod for example). if you really wanna get technical you could also complain that it isnt 4gbs in the first place because of how they round disk space
c_licious said:
I can understand your frustration (kinda) but wtf would you want 4gb of internal storage for anyway? It's not like you can save music or pictures to it. Even without save to sd you'd be hard pressed to fill up the gig they gave us. Is this just about the principle?
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great point

its about the principle.. yea i wasn't expecting the whole 4gigs to be available but when you only get 1.2 its pretty upsetting

-FuRBz- said:
its about the principle.. yea i wasn't expecting the whole 4gigs to be available but when you only get 1.2 its pretty upsetting
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true but by the time you would fill that we should have root cracked by then so youll be able to save the apps to sd either way... i just cant find it to be that much to complain about

Listen, people are complaining because 4GB is a lot of space really. They don't need it, but just to see it would make them happy. That's all...
myTouch4G (Glacier)

not having the full 4gb doesnt bother me that much. Just paying for something and expecting to get everything that is advertised leaves me feeling a little shorted out. but that comes with almost everything now a days.

This is interesting

https://supportforums.motorola.com/thread/47255?tstart=0
And if you are wondering, there is a comment made in another thread that eludes to the fact that an SD card was never promised.

Morkai Almandragon said:
https://supportforums.motorola.com/thread/47255?tstart=0
And if you are wondering, there is a comment made in another thread that eludes to the fact that an SD card was never promised.
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SD card support hinges on Google. Honeycomb doesn't support external storage yet. This is a Google issue, not a Motorola issue.

That is what I have heard...
And you don't think Google and Motorola have discussed this? Come on now, someone knows the answer. My concern is Honeycomb starts to support SD, then the Xoom does not (I do not care why), we are left with a lame duck holding our junk and crying about an 800$ loss.

I'm sure that Toshiba would also be pretty upset if Google decides not to support external storage. They're including an SD card slot in their tablet as well. I'm not sure about all of the others, but there are two manufacturers counting on SD card support.

Morkai Almandragon said:
That is what I have heard...
And you don't think Google and Motorola have discussed this? Come on now, someone knows the answer. My concern is Honeycomb starts to support SD, then the Xoom does not (I do not care why), we are left with a lame duck holding our junk and crying about an 800$ loss.
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Well, then don't be concerned: there's absolutely no reason why Honeycomb would support SD and the Xoom wouldn't. Zero. Zilch. Nada.

The Xoom is being treated as a google expeirance device which puts in the same league of updates as the G1, the Nexus 1, the OG Droid, and the Nexus S. It will get it so stop worrying. This is also the reason for the unlocked boot loader. Now as for when thats a whole other story but the more devices that ship with Honeycomb the better because that will put pressure on google to get the update out.

this might be odd, but what the heck makes it so hard to have SD support in the first place, you would think that this would be one the main functions of the software. I mean, its not like SD cards are new, and not like a million other devices that are running android (not 3.0 but older versions) have SD support. i mean, this confuses me in the first place.

eatonjb said:
this might be odd, but what the heck makes it so hard to have SD support in the first place, you would think that this would be one the main functions of the software. I mean, its not like SD cards are new, and not like a million other devices that are running android (not 3.0 but older versions) have SD support. i mean, this confuses me in the first place.
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I think the problem isn't that honeycomb doesn't support sdcards so much a it doesn't support two. The internal memory is being seen as an sdcard.
Sent from my EVO

bwcorvus said:
I think the problem isn't that honeycomb doesn't support sdcards so much a it doesn't support two. The internal memory is being seen as an sdcard.
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but with that being said, same thing tho, does my Captivate not have the same setup?

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but with that being said, same thing tho, does my Captivate not have the same setup?
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I'm not sure about the Captivate, but on the Xoom the /data and /sdcard mount points both point to the same logical partition on the internal storage. In most phones, /data has its own partition on the internal storage, and /sdcard is mounted from your sd card slot.

well.. not to argue the point, witch is completely valid, I still do not understand why that was not something that could have been added at the get go.
it just seems simple, as it would require a driver, an just a point in the script to mount it.
Flash, I can see why the issue, new hardware and stuff.
anyways, cant wait to get some SD action, would love to toss some movies on this thing!. (err.. more movies)

the comments on the sd card slot being activated with the 4g is all bs right? Cause I'm getting the wifi one and obviously I'm not sending it in for 4g.

It's a software (honeycomb) thing. It will be enabled with an update. which im sure will be OTA or at least available on XDA
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the comments on the sd card slot being activated with the 4g is all bs right? Cause I'm getting the wifi one and obviously I'm not sending it in for 4g.
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familiarstranger said:
It's a software (honeycomb) thing. It will be enabled with an update. which im sure will be OTA or at least available on XDA
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I have read this time and time again. But where are you getting your info? Who told you it would be updated?

patass said:
the comments on the sd card slot being activated with the 4g is all bs right?
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Yeah, I'm almost 100% sure they pulled that out of their ass, and was confusing the LTE SIM card slot (which is usuaily ultimately attached to a serial port, no special hardware required) with the SD Card slot.

They were probably just hoping it would all get worked out around the same time as the 4G updates.
This is on the Wifi Model listing:
Memory expansion via microSD card slot with support for optional cards up to 32 GB (functionality requires future software upgrade)

Well, the Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 won't have SD card. Might be reason why

smilepak said:
Well, the Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 won't have SD card. Might be reason why
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Do you really think Google created a brand new Android OS that should be around for years to come that will not support SD cards? And on top of that, do you think Motorola working with Google would put an SD slot in the xoom and never activate it?
Really, come on...

Source is available, if for some dumb reason Google doesn't want to support an SD card, motorola can do it themselves.

Is source available?
c0t0d0s2 said:
Source is available, if for some dumb reason Google doesn't want to support an SD card, motorola can do it themselves.
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LTE NOT Landing Before July

The Verizon XOOM LTE upgrade will not be hitting before July, when it is currently scheduled. This date, as loose as it is, had the specific caveat that it is very possibly subject to further delay.
For obvious reasons, I won't name the source, but I will state that they are within Verizon, and are in a position to have accurate information.

Its not coming. Just like the sd card fix. I've already given up. Lesson learned: never buy from Motorola.
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timrock said:
Its not coming. Just like the sd card fix. I've already given up. Lesson learned: never buy from Motorola.
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I believe it is coming my friend.... when? Prolly not soon but if never I believe VZW and Moto will be slammed with lawsuits from us sue happy Americans.

The SD card issue is joke already. There is NO REASON as to why they cany have it working for us.

Sadly, those of us who gave Motorola one last try (on the Xoom, after we were all burned with locked boot loaders on the Droid X and subsequent phones) have been shown, once again, to not trust Motorola.
Yeah, some of the things that come with the Galaxy Tab 10.1 are limited/annoying, but Samsung is proving to be a monster of a manufacturer/designer. Thinner than iPad2? Yes please. OPTIONAL Tablet Touch Wiz UI? Doesn't bother me, it's OPTIONAL. Sure, it was probably Google's call on that one, but that's actually a good thing. Sounds like Google is headed in the right direction regarding Android skins.
Anyway, my Xoom is fine for me for now - and it was great as a first-adopter product. But NEVER again will I buy Motorola. EVER. This was the nail in the coffin. But I got my Honeycomb first, which was worth one last chance on Motorola.
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dubie76 said:
The SD card issue is joke already. There is NO REASON as to why they cany have it working for us.
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As an Android developer who has to deal daily with multiple APIs across android revisions to store files on the sdcard, I pretty much want to punch you right now.
The sdcard situation is a huge mess. I'd rather have a final decent API, not another half-assed hack.
It's not "no reason", bub.

ZanshinG1 said:
As an Android developer who has to deal daily with multiple APIs across android revisions to store files on the sdcard, I pretty much want to punch you right now.
The sdcard situation is a huge mess. I'd rather have a final decent API, not another half-assed hack.
It's not "no reason", bub.
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There is ABSOLUETLY NO REASON WHY

ZanshinG1 said:
As an Android developer who has to deal daily with multiple APIs across android revisions to store files on the sdcard, I pretty much want to punch you right now.
The sdcard situation is a huge mess. I'd rather have a final decent API, not another half-assed hack.
It's not "no reason", bub.
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I can understand from a developer perspective but the damage is already done with all these other tablets releasing with working SD cards. It is too late now. Google/Motorola should have had this working before any other tablet released with a working SD card and they failed. I am also in the group where I will never buy a Motorola device again. My first and last.

keitht said:
I can understand from a developer perspective but the damage is already done with all these other tablets releasing with working SD cards. It is too late now. Google/Motorola should have had this working before any other tablet released with a working SD card and they failed. I am also in the group where I will never buy a Motorola device again. My first and last.
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Yea.....agreed..they robbed 800 from me. I will never even by so much as a Bluetooth from moto again. I know it will impact nothing. But the4g and SD card is just 2 much...lawyer said in 2 months there would be a leg to stand on if no lte and SD by then...not so much SD as it was never really advertised but lte def.

csseale said:
Yea.....agreed..they robbed 800 from me. I will never even by so much as a Bluetooth from moto again. I know it will impact nothing. But the4g and SD card is just 2 much...lawyer said in 2 months there would be a leg to stand on if no lte and SD by then...not so much SD as it was never really advertised but lte def.
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Good. I bought this thing on day one... almost 4 months ago. I have never seen anything like this before. Add me to the lawsuit please.

What's the SD card issue anyway? I'm not understanding how ref's can get it to work but a multi-million dollar corporation can't.

http://www.PetitionOnline.com/4268499/petition.html

csseale said:
There is ABSOLUETLY NO REASON WHY
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Thing is, you'd be the first person screaming if a majority of your apps started force closing due to the sdcard hack that'd have to be used until Google finalizes the new API.
Also, I wish people would stop making absolute statements they lack the qualifications to make.

Just saw over at Droid world that 4g and SD card slot will be done in mid July but get this you will have to box up your Xoom and send it off.I'm happy to see the updates coming but jeez sending off my xoom and waiting for god knows how long is absurd

Hey just hack ur xoom! No but seriously, not one honeycomb tablet has a functioning sd card slot. Google did not have support for it in honeycomb. I would settle for powering down and being able to just load my files the old fashion way, if it would just read the sd card! And 4G ain't really tha important to me. Not like i'm gonna be streaming a moving dtiving down the road any way. It will get fixed, just give it some time. The xoom rocks no matter how you look at it. And just be happy not buying one those crapple knockoffs from samsung! That thing looks like a kids toy.
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hammer4203 said:
Hey just hack ur xoom! No but seriously, not one honeycomb tablet has a functioning sd card slot. Google did not have support for it in honeycomb. I would settle for powering down and being able to just load my files the old fashion way, if it would just read the sd card! And 4G ain't really tha important to me. Not like i'm gonna be streaming a moving dtiving down the road any way. It will get fixed, just give it some time. The xoom rocks no matter how you look at it. And just be happy not buying one those crapple knockoffs from samsung! That thing looks like a kids toy.
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Sorry but you are incorrect. There are several honeycomb tablets released that have working microSD card slots.

Arun01 said:
Just saw over at Droid world that 4g and SD card slot will be done in mid July but get this you will have to box up your Xoom and send it off.I'm happy to see the updates coming but jeez sending off my xoom and waiting for god knows how long is absurd
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We've always known we were going to have to send it in...

ZanshinG1 said:
Thing is, you'd be the first person screaming if a majority of your apps started force closing due to the sdcard hack that'd have to be used until Google finalizes the new API.
Also, I wish people would stop making absolute statements they lack the qualifications to make.
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BUT.. here is the thing... why did the SD card need a new API in the first place? SD cards have been working since 1.X; apps to SD since 2.2. None of this functionality is new, so why the sudden inability to keep it?

Divine_Madcat said:
BUT.. here is the thing... why did the SD card need a new API in the first place? SD cards have been working since 1.X; apps to SD since 2.2. None of this functionality is new, so why the sudden inability to keep it?
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When Android first came out internal storage was meant for apps and data only. Things like music and movies were stored on external storage (i.e. sdcard). When an application requests access to external storage it is in reality given access to /sdcard.
Now devices, like the xoom, have much larger internal storage and so can store what historically been kept on an sdcard internally. The problem is that applications are still (correctly) requesting external storage for the storage and manipulation of large files. This access points to /sdcard still. If you look on your xoom you will see all your music, movies, dropbox, etc... are stored in the /sdcard folder.
One problem. The xoom does not have an sdcard in it.
So now, with more modern devices Android needs a way to be able to intelligently allocate access to both the internal storage as well as a sdcard. This can not be done well if both point to /sdcard and thus a solution must be made.
Does that help to explain why this was not a problem in the past but now is?

this is without a doubt, the most well written easy to understand post i have seen on this forum in regards to why the SD card feature has been delayed. This explains it well for the laymen. thank you for the thought out post.
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When Android first came out internal storage was meant for apps and data only. Things like music and movies were stored on external storage (i.e. sdcard). When an application requests access to external storage it is in reality given access to /sdcard.
Now devices, like the xoom, have much larger internal storage and so can store what historically been kept on an sdcard internally. The problem is that applications are still (correctly) requesting external storage for the storage and manipulation of large files. This access points to /sdcard still. If you look on your xoom you will see all your music, movies, dropbox, etc... are stored in the /sdcard folder.
One problem. The xoom does not have an sdcard in it.
So now, with more modern devices Android needs a way to be able to intelligently allocate access to both the internal storage as well as a sdcard. This can not be done well if both point to /sdcard and thus a solution must be made.
Does that help to explain why this was not a problem in the past but now is?
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living without a SD?

yes im asking this. im on a HTC Desire Z now with a sd card and i wanted to know if its a big difference to live with or without a SDcard. is it do-able? i cant choose bitween the s3 and nexus 4

The SD card doesn't make a difference, you just have to figure out if you can live with 8/16 GB of storage. The answer is probably yes, if you are willing to use streaming services (google music, netflix, etc.)

I personally would not be able to live with SD cards in my life. I will have to end myself soon because Dropbox and Google Drive are taking over.

Oh well...

yumcax said:
The SD card doesn't make a difference, you just have to figure out if you can live with 8/16 GB of storage. The answer is probably yes, if you are willing to use streaming services (google music, netflix, etc.)
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i have 32 GB now so and i have 9GB free. but google music is not available in my country (yet). does it stream your music or is it like itunes?

more threads of sdcard complaints... will it ever end?

Will u be able to transfer stuff from phone to a computer, even if u don't have a SD card
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mohnim said:
Will u be able to transfer stuff from phone to a computer, even if u don't have a SD card
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of course you can, just plug the phone into your computer and it gets recognized as a mass storage device...

I think 16GB will be more than sufficient for me. If it isn't than I will just get a USB OTG cable and use the current Micro SD card that I have. I have an adapter that I can plug the SD card into that allows it to be plugged into a USB port. So effectively giving myself access to expandable SD storage
Probably won't need it, but that's my plan.

DonDizzurp said:
more threads of sdcard complaints... will it ever end?
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eh man i am not complaining

Came from a G2 (with microSD card slot) to a Gnex, I have to say I didn't miss the card even a bit. 16GB is fine since I use Google music for streaming, and that's the majority part of storage. I don't use GNex's camera that much. I have a Canon D550 and there isn't a phone camera that could produce pictures even similar in quality.
You might want to mange your space a little, like deleting unwanted backups, not having a million Titanium backups, but it's manageable.

I must admit, although I would rather have a micro-SD slot, its really not a feature I'm over worried about in terms of storage. What concerns me is whether it increases the risk of flashing roms etc to the phone. I you brick you phone, is it not going to make it more difficult to unbrick it? Or can adb always push stuff to the phone one way or another?
Also, just to confirm, you personal data stored internally (in what I assume will be called the sdcard folder) is retained each time you wipe your phone, right?

mazdarati2 said:
eh man i am not complaining
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what do you want to hear, then?
did you not see the other 25 threads on the same damn topic?
no, living without an SDcard is not doable, it is like burning in hell. dont do it or you will hang yourself within a week. okay? okay. now stfu and gtfo

DonDizzurp said:
what do you want to hear, then?
did you not see the other 25 threads on the same damn topic?
no, living without an SDcard is not doable, it is like burning in hell. dont do it or you will hang yourself within a week. okay? okay. now stfu and gtfo
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wtf man what is your problem. You cant stand it that im not as smart as you so you are going to flame on me? dude please, grow up

G405T said:
I must admit, although I would rather have a micro-SD slot, its really not a feature I'm over worried about in terms of storage. What concerns me is whether it increases the risk of flashing roms etc to the phone. I you brick you phone, is it not going to make it more difficult to unbrick it? Or can adb always push stuff to the phone one way or another?
Also, just to confirm, you personal data stored internally (in what I assume will be called the sdcard folder) is retained each time you wipe your phone, right?
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intern is not your SD

I've got a GS3 with a 32gb SD Card (as well as the internal at 16gb) and now a 16gb Nexus 7. I have to be honest and say it does bug me. If you download nightlies and make a lot of Nandroids then your going to suffer to get used to it. There is no way I would recommend an 8gb. I travel a lot on flights and that is when I really miss the storage for music and films, but I do have the phone to fall back on. That said, there are plenty of iSheep out there that don't seem to struggle and Google Drive and Google Music are awesome services. Perhaps I'm the one that should be more tolerant.
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mazdarati2 said:
yes im asking this. im on a HTC Desire Z now with a sd card and i wanted to know if its a big difference to live with or without a SDcard. is it do-able? i cant choose bitween the s3 and nexus 4
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Hey mazdarati2,
I came from the Droid Incredible to the Galaxy Nexus and I can tell you that having a large internal memory rather than the SD card slot is really not a big deal. At first, I thought I would miss it also, but I really wanted the Nexus. The only downside comes if you have a tendency to work with experimental/unstable ROMs, which can corrupt the filesystem on the memory and you will have to reformat and push the factory image with fastboot. When you do this, the SD memory partition gets formatted as well, which is a bummer and if you ever had any problems like that on phones with a physical SD card, you wouldn't have that problem. For the average user that doesn't use more than 8-16GB of space, it will cause no problems, in fact, it will be better because it gets rid of system confusion when saving pictures/videos/other files and then finding them when you connect to your PC. I hope this helps and sways your decision towards getting a nexus 4. It's a great phone and if you're on pre-paid, it will save you a lot of money in the long run! Good Luck!

mazdarati2 said:
intern is not your SD
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The reason I assumed 'sdcard' folder, is because the LG 4X HD, which has both sd and 16GB internal storage places all of your user files in the sdcard directory independent of whether you are using an sdcard. The actual sdcard files are stored in '/sdcard/external_sdcard' which I must admit I found slightly odd.

nschiwy said:
Hey mazdarati2,
I came from the Droid Incredible to the Galaxy Nexus and I can tell you that having a large internal memory rather than the SD card slot is really not a big deal. At first, I thought I would miss it also, but I really wanted the Nexus. The only downside comes if you have a tendency to work with experimental/unstable ROMs, which can corrupt the filesystem on the memory and you will have to reformat and push the factory image with fastboot. When you do this, the SD memory partition gets formatted as well, which is a bummer and if you ever had any problems like that on phones with a physical SD card, you wouldn't have that problem. For the average user that doesn't use more than 8-16GB of space, it will cause no problems, in fact, it will be better because it gets rid of system confusion when saving pictures/videos/other files and then finding them when you connect to your PC. I hope this helps and sways your decision towards getting a nexus 4. It's a great phone and if you're on pre-paid, it will save you a lot of money in the long run! Good Luck!
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i dont think im gonna try out new ROMS. maybe only Pimp My ROM, but thats it

SUer said:
I've got a GS3 with a 32gb SD Card (as well as the internal at 16gb) and now a 16gb Nexus 7. I have to be honest and say it does bug me. If you download nightlies and make a lot of Nandroids then your going to suffer to get used to it. There is no way I would recommend an 8gb. I travel a lot on flights and that is when I really miss the storage for music and films, but I do have the phone to fall back on. That said, there are plenty of iSheep out there that don't seem to struggle and Google Drive and Google Music are awesome services. Perhaps I'm the one that should be more tolerant.
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yes i need to know to use Google Drive and stream apps like that. never used it