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Engadget is reporting that the update will come starting tomorrow with a 4 day rollout and will fix the 3g upload issues.
Can someone with more seniority post a link?
I'm too new to post the source link. Here's the quote though:
"Good news - an update will be released tomorrow 9/30. It will be rolled out over a 4 day period so not everyone will get it on day 1. I will have the standard MR information (fixes included, rollout schedule, etc) available tomorrow morning and will post it in a new featured thread."
Here is the link: http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/29/sprint-epic-4g-update-coming-tomorrow-should-fix-3g-upload-iss/
I hope i dont have to add crap again to do this. If so i guess ill do it.
This is good and all...but is there any news of a 2.2 update? Coming from a nexus one, this phone seems severely crippled by it's software(or lack thereof).
I look forward to the update, but if it doesn't get better soon, I'm going to return it. I have 3 weeks left to return it...we'll see how the tmo g2 looks when it comes out...
No official word yet on Froyo, but the rumblings I've been hearing are either the end of September (so tomorrow or this update) according to support people in the UK, or the end of October according to support people in Spain. No support people in the US have said anything firm about Froyo.
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This is good and all...but is there any news of a 2.2 update? Coming from a nexus one, this phone seems severely crippled by it's software(or lack thereof).
I look forward to the update, but if it doesn't get better soon, I'm going to return it. I have 3 weeks left to return it...we'll see how the tmo g2 looks when it comes out...
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I don't follow you. How is the Epic crippled just because it doesn't have Froyo? 2.2 is not going to change hardly anything... it's the exact same UI. Most apps dont allow for apps2SD yet, and Flash is underwhelming. The phone's already fast as ****. So, please tell us what you mean by your comment.
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I don't follow you. How is the Epic crippled just because it doesn't have Froyo? 2.2 is not going to change hardly anything... it's the exact same UI. Most apps dont allow for apps2SD yet, and Flash is underwhelming. The phone's already fast as ****. So, please tell us what you mean by your comment.
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the phone lacks flash for one. to advertise the phone as a media powerhouse and i cant go to hulu, one of the largest free movie sites blows chunks. who wants to use the media hub and spend 12.95 per movie or even 3.99 to rent when i can order netflix and watch online. by the way you cant do that with the phone as well. i have 2 weeks left and as it stands i will be taking the phone back. i got the epic for personal use and i have an evo for work. the epic is faster and the screen is better but functionality wise the evo is better and i think it has to do with not being updated like the evo is.
so the evo is more functional just because it has flash? by the way, hulu blocks all mobile platforms, so even when 2.2 comes you won't be able to use it.
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the phone lacks flash for one. to advertise the phone as a media powerhouse and i cant go to hulu, one of the largest free movie sites blows chunks. who wants to use the media hub and spend 12.95 per movie or even 3.99 to rent when i can order netflix and watch online. by the way you cant do that with the phone as well. i have 2 weeks left and as it stands i will be taking the phone back. i got the epic for personal use and i have an evo for work. the epic is faster and the screen is better but functionality wise the evo is better and i think it has to do with not being updated like the evo is.
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Have you tried it with Skyfire?
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Have you tried it with Skyfire?
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Yes....no worky
Im more wanting the froyo update.
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Froyo's not a big update, I don't see what the fuss is about. It actually slowed down the browser speed (pinch zoom, etc) when it got pushed out to the Evo. I'm happy with how things are, personally.
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Froyo's not a big update, I don't see what the fuss is about. It actually slowed down the browser speed (pinch zoom, etc) when it got pushed out to the Evo. I'm happy with how things are, personally.
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I agree, Froyo caused many more problems on my Evo than it fixed. Actually, other than flash (and even that is not all that) it didn't improve anything and it broke Pandora and others with LOUSY sound, it removed root and it removed RTSP. Since then, many of these things are possible to work around, but the bottom line is that in my opinion, Froyo is over hyped.
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Froyo's not a big update, I don't see what the fuss is about. It actually slowed down the browser speed (pinch zoom, etc) when it got pushed out to the Evo. I'm happy with how things are, personally.
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I'm personally waiting for the Samsung music player which i'm assuming is gonna come out with 2.2.
FLAC + EQ is something I can't find in another music player.
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Yes....no worky
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I can confirm it doesn't work...
There was a way to get around it on one of the other forums for 2.2 and adobe flash. I don't remember how, and I'm sure by now, Hulu has patched it as they were patching exploits daily.
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I agree, Froyo caused many more problems on my Evo than it fixed. Actually, other than flash (and even that is not all that) it didn't improve anything and it broke Pandora and others with LOUSY sound, it removed root and it removed RTSP. Since then, many of these things are possible to work around, but the bottom line is that in my opinion, Froyo is over hyped.
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I really only want it b/c we "think" TW3.0 will be with it... I want the EQ.
Why wouldn't you want the choice to have the latest OS?
JIT compiler and flash is enough for me to want it. If you don't want it just don't upgrade?
Official announcement and release notes
A sticky at Sprint's Community forum today has release notes:
9/30 - Samsung Epic Maintenance Release
Fixes:
WiFi standby battery drain
Amazon MP3 cannot download in 4G
Large emails lag in upload speeds
Increased 3G upload speeds
Update your software
1. The software will be automatically downloaded to your phone since this is a recommended update.
2. A System update screen will prompt the user to 'Install now' or 'Install later'.
If 'Install later' is selected, a reminder will be sent once or twice a day to install the update.
If 'Install now' is selected, the phone will power down and then reboot.
Important Notes:- This update will take approximately 7-8 minutes to download and 7-8 minutes to install.
- The new software version is: S700.0.5S.DI18
- This update is available OTA (over the air) and will be pushed to your device. It is being pushed in stages, beginning on 9/30 12:00AM EST, and will be rolled out to users over several days.
- Your device must be on software version DI07 to perform the update to DI18. If you are still on DG17 or DG27, a Sprint Service and Repair Center should be able to update your device to DI07. The update from DI07 to DI18 is not yet available to the Service and Repair Centers. As soon as it is, this post will be updated.
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I just read this thread at Android Forums and confirmed it with my wife's Captivate. Usually in TouchWiz, the homescreen defaults to the far right until you get to 4 screen, then it's always #4. The captivate now has a little home icon so you can set the center screen regardless of how many screens it has.
Did I miss something or did we just not get that option? If not, can it be ported to the Vibrant?
If anyone knows how to do that and needs a file or package to look at, let me know which one and I'll upload it.
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I just read this thread at Android Forums and confirmed it with my wife's Captivate. Usually in TouchWiz, the homescreen defaults to the far right until you get to 4 screen, then it's always #4. The captivate now has a little home icon so you can set the center screen regardless of how many screens it has.
Did I miss something or did we just not get that option? If not, can it be ported to the Vibrant?
If anyone knows how to do that and needs a file or package to look at, let me know which one and I'll upload it.
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This is touchwiz30launcher.apk from captivate. It is modified by GTG in the captivate forum.
modified twlauncher
I have tested this on my girlfriend's vibrant, and it is working, and eugene has also incorporated it into his jpo froyo rom. Since this works, theoretically any captivate TouchWiz30Launcher.apk should work on vibrant.
Cool, thank you for that.
I still think it's lame that Samsung didn't provide the same features to every Galaxy S device. I wrote them an email. That'll show 'em!
Dur. This doesn't work on 2.1 I guess. Force closes all around. Good thing I'm obsessive about making backups.
First of all, I was going to hang on to my nexus until a hi Res display came along but my wife got a vibrant and I got one free, the point is I've only had it a few weeks and I wasn't following it too closely so I don't even know the original due date for froyo. But this is my 4th android so delays certainly don't surprise me. Anywa, as i understand it the SGS has the same specs as the galaxy tab, and apparently adobe flash is a "disaster" on the tab. http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/artic...e-tab-is-an-embarrassing-disaster-2010-11.DTL
So maybe adobe flash on the vibrant has needed special attention. At this rate however I would expect all able galaxy s owners to just buy the nexus s and simply remove themselves from samsung's incapable firmware update team's psychological abuse
I haven't heard complaints about the unofficial versions but maybe they are having trouble stabilizing flash enough for a stable official version such that we have flash working but other bugs exist, maybe getting those bugs ironed negatively affects flash? Or maybe I'm just trying make myself feel better through poor rationalization...
To Be Honest I've Been Running Froyo For A Little While Now And Flash Works Great For Me...
Granted I'm Not on It 24/7 And I'd Rather Use Mobile Sites Most Of The Time.
But When I Do Use Flash It Works Fine
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To Be Honest I've Been Running Froyo For A Little While Now And Flash Works Great For Me...
Granted I'm Not on It 24/7 And I'd Rather Use Mobile Sites Most Of The Time.
But When I Do Use Flash It Works Fine
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Same here only I prefer the full sites and flash works great I've been watching movies streamed from the web and after two hours of non stop use still no problem
Still flashing
I had no problems with flash but I did set it to On-Demand because it lags up the scrolling. xvideo flash videos played with no problem.
But other countries have froyo already, we don't have froyo mostly because we have a modified GalaxyS, think about it like this, Nexus One would always get updates first because they were plain vanilla not modified (touchwiz or SenseUI). I hope I make sense.
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But other countries have froyo already, we don't have froyo mostly because we have a modified GalaxyS, think about it like this, Nexus One would always get updates first because they were plain vanilla not modified (touchwiz or SenseUI). I hope I make sense.
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Yeah I'm definitely reaching, I just start getting antsy when these firmware updates get delayed and we don't hear much from the responsible party/s. I feel like almost every firmware update I've ever received has been delayed, but ive always had HTC phones until now, is Motorola always behind as well?
Also, is froyo actually that late (I mean, I know its devastatingly late seeing as gingerbread will be out before we get it but as far as what vibrant owners were promised....)? What was the original due date?
If flash is always turned it will really have issues, but if your turned it on when you need it, it will work fine like watching videos, you just have to wait for about 10 seconds of loading then it will work fine.
i feel the same as OP =[
Another theory to why Froyo isn't officially out...
... is that they responsible party(s) decided to leak a froyo version first. Than let the developers here at XDA hammer out details, then recover it and put the fixes into their own version to make it better. Maybe that is why leaks comes out to us. So the manufacturers can get free alpha testers and fixes.
I honestly just uninstalled flash. It bogged down my phone too much. As soon as I got rid of it, my browser was back to being speedy.
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I honestly just uninstalled flash. It bogged down my phone too much. As soon as I got rid of it, my browser was back to being speedy.
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Why not just set flash to "on demand" in your browser? It won't load until you click on the flash content. Most browsers support that.
My phone's better with flash if I'm using the skyfire browser. It much faster than the stock.
You are aware that the Nexus S is also a Samsung phone right?
Yes Flash 10.1 does make the browser laggy and presumably consumes more battery due to being a system hog. I am using Obsidian V2 Froyo ROM. There could be work arounds, but it definitely needs optimization for mobile devices.
Now how does this only affect Galaxy S phones and not any other phone running froyo?
Honestly, I'm gonna be pissed if it turns out they held back 2.2 for ****ing *FLASH*.
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... is that they responsible party(s) decided to leak a froyo version first. Than let the developers here at XDA hammer out details, then recover it and put the fixes into their own version to make it better. Maybe that is why leaks comes out to us. So the manufacturers can get free alpha testers and fixes.
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Not in the slightest, at the most they watch over to listen for bugs. We got JI2 when they had already moved on to JI4/JI5 and then to JI6. Samsung doesn't work off of stuff here, the developers work off of what Samsung gives us.
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Yes Flash 10.1 does make the browser laggy and presumably consumes more battery due to being a system hog. I am using Obsidian V2 Froyo ROM. There could be work arounds, but it definitely needs optimization for mobile devices.
Now how does this only affect Galaxy S phones and not any other phone running froyo?
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Not sure but with apps now poppimg up statimg no support for galaxy s I think I shouls have steered clear of them and their hummingbird...
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RFS Filesystem? Anyone know the answer to this? I would think that this would be a no for sure because a.) Samsung wouldn't surely cripple the Google developer phone with this. B.) Google wouldn't let them I wouldn't think. I would love to know the answer to this because it it does have this I WOULDN'T even begin to consider after sewing how bad it cripples my fascinate.
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A google developer stated that it uses EXT4 and some other filesystem I cannot remember.
If I remember correctly, RFS was put there because Android 2.2- can't handle large internal storage, which has been corrected in 2.3. So logically, there would be no need for RFS in 2.3+
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A google developer stated that it uses EXT4 and some other filesystem I cannot remember.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=9627089#post9627089
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If I remember correctly, RFS was put there because Android 2.2- can't handle large internal storage, which has been corrected in 2.3. So logically, there would be no need for RFS in 2.3+
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Never heard of that. It's been proven that all the partitions that use RFS can be replaced with EXT4. /system /data /dbdata and /cache. Heck even /efs if you wanted to, but it's not recommended at all.
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A google developer stated that it uses EXT4 and some other filesystem I cannot remember.
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http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2010/12/saving-data-safely.html
From the linked blog post, bold is mine.
The reason this should be of concern to Android developers is that with 2.3, an increasing proportion of devices, notably including the Nexus S, are going to be moving from YAFFS to the ext4 filesystem, which buffers much more aggressively; thus you need to be more assertive about making sure your data gets to permanent storage when you want it to.
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I just want to say thank god it's not RFS.
It makes my Galaxy Spica laggy as.
Well done samsung.
JimJam707 said:
I just want to say thank god it's not RFS.
It makes my Galaxy Spica laggy as.
Well done samsung.
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Well done Google*
JimJam707 said:
I just want to say thank god it's not RFS.
It makes my Galaxy Spica laggy as.
Well done samsung.
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It's all Google at the software end. All Samsung has done for the Nexus S is build the phone according to Google's requests.
What makes me question whether it not android can handle large amounts of internal storage, is the Droid x, it has 8gb so I think that line thinking is out the window.
Edit; it is completely ok if I'm wrong just thought your logic was a littfle off
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Superfrag said:
It's all Google at the software end. All Samsung has done for the Nexus S is build the phone according to Google's requests.
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not really. Samsung has put together a phone from left over parts from soon to be disconnected Galaxy S. Google didnt request anything.
kolyan said:
not really. Samsung has put together a phone from left over parts from soon to be disconnected Galaxy S. Google didnt request anything.
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Yeah, I think there is an abacus inside
kolyan said:
not really. Samsung has put together a phone from left over parts from soon to be disconnected Galaxy S. Google didnt request anything.
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Really? So the curved screen, the change of internal NAND from Samsung's moviNAND to Sandisk's iNAND, the change of GPS & WiFi antenna, the change of Bluetooth chip & the change in positions of USB & 3.5mm port, all that is because Samsung didn't have THOSE particular left over parts?
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Really? So the curved screen, the change of internal NAND from Samsung's moviNAND to Sandisk's iNAND, the change of GPS & WiFi antenna, the change of Bluetooth chip & the change in positions of USB & 3.5mm port, all that is because Samsung didn't have THOSE particular left over parts?
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Bluetooth is downgraded to 2.1, so yes, I suppose they ran out of 3.0 modules.....curved screen (which i like) and useless NFC chip are the only 2 what you might call improvements....
and i am just curious....how do you know that it has different GPS, WIFI modules, and that it uses different brand storage ? Could you please provide a link to fact.
See the FCC page, it shows that the WiFi & GPS antennas are different. As for the internal storage, see the Nexus S announced thread in General, a guy from Google(Svetlana) has confirmed the same.
Here, links. This is what I mean by, Google has a huge amount of say in this phone. That's why its not just a Galaxy S remodeled.
http://www.intomobile.com/2010/11/29/samsung-nexus-s-fcc/
http://www.talkandroid.com/22376-sa...fcc-with-new-wifi-bluetooth-and-gps-antennas/
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Really? So the curved screen, the change of internal NAND from Samsung's moviNAND to Sandisk's iNAND, the change of GPS & WiFi antenna, the change of Bluetooth chip & the change in positions of USB & 3.5mm port, all that is because Samsung didn't have THOSE particular left over parts?
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They're not using Sandisk's iNand, it's a Samsung product also named iNand. It's the chip that's in teh iPhones.
Rawat said:
They're not using Sandisk's iNand, it's a Samsung product also named iNand. It's the chip that's in teh iPhones.
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http://www.sandisk.com/business-solutions/mobile-handset-vendors/inand
I can't find a link stating that Samsung also has a product called iNAND.
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http://www.sandisk.com/business-solutions/mobile-handset-vendors/inand
I can't find a link stating that Samsung also has a product called iNAND.
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http://bit.ly/fmwwiJ
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4059/nexus-s-and-android-23-review-gingerbread-for-the-holidays/3
See the Anandtech review, lower half of the page. Even they say that the internal memory is Sandisk's iNAND. Need more proof? :/
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If I remember correctly, RFS was put there because Android 2.2- can't handle large internal storage, which has been corrected in 2.3. So logically, there would be no need for RFS in 2.3+
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what is funny, because ext4 (free and available in each linux firmware... just need to say yse compile it) handle that kind of big storage
other fun => the Desire HD had also a big internal memory, but no RFS
conclusion => samsung really don't know what they did ^^
Y'all keep rolling eyes like that and someones gonna twist up an optic nerve!
Family guy anyone?
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http://www.droid-life.com/2011/11/1...ak-in-two-bloatware-apps-on-the-galaxy-nexus/
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http://www.droid-life.com/2011/11/1...ak-in-two-bloatware-apps-on-the-galaxy-nexus/
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Not necessarily. Those apps might not be integrated into the rom.
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Not necessarily. Those apps might not be integrated into the rom.
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They are. The pics are in the galaxy nexus general forums. This killed my dream of getting a Nexus phone...... Will the international version work on Sprint???
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They are. The pics are in the galaxy nexus general forums. This killed my dream of getting a Nexus phone...... Will the international version work on Sprint???
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I think what he meant is that those apps aren't put there until after the rom is installed, meaning Verizon put them there.
You make your statement with such certainty, yet provide nothing to back it up - why are you so sure?
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The pics show it...... ICS has a built in uninstaller/disable feature...... There is no option to uninstall or delete.... Only disable... Meaning its cooked into the rom(if I've learned correctly) which also means all updates have to go through Verizon. No bueno for a Nexus phone....
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The pics show it...... ICS has a built in uninstaller/disable feature...... There is no option to uninstall or delete.... Only disable... Meaning its cooked into the rom(if I've learned correctly) which also means all updates have to go through Verizon. No bueno for a Nexus phone....
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As long as Google pushed the update with a data backup, it shouldn't be an issue, correct? Google would update everything except carrier apps. Carrier could update them like the way Sprint updated Sprint Navigation to Telenav or some other delivery method.
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The pics show it...... ICS has a built in uninstaller/disable feature...... There is no option to uninstall or delete.... Only disable... Meaning its cooked into the rom(if I've learned correctly) which also means all updates have to go through Verizon. No bueno for a Nexus phone....
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I think that only means that the app is installed into the system app directory, instead of the user app dir. I suppose I will have to adb push an apk into my system app folder to confirm, but I'm fairly certain that the lack of an uninstall button is because android never gives that option for system apps...
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I think that only means that the app is installed into the system app directory, instead of the user app dir. I suppose I will have to adb push an apk into my system app folder to confirm, but I'm fairly certain that the lack of an uninstall button is because android never gives that option for system apps...
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Please say it would be that easy.... But then again it defeats the purpose of me buying a nexus if I have to get rid of bloatware.
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Supposed to be a developer platform....what developer is going to want VZ Backup assistant...lol.
Verizon: You are dumb.
Oh well, I still believe it will be google updated.
Guys, in ICS there is a feature in which you can hide the apps.
Also i dont think this really matters. The two apps included are something verizon users may want. Looking at your status with the company and backing up information with the carrier hardly seem like bloat apps to me. Also, this is only the case for verizon and not other carriers like sprint, which can uninstall bloatware apps. I still believe google will be pushing out their own updates.
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I'm a little curious why this would discourage anyone here from owning this phone. Are any of you guys buying it with the intention of running stock?
Even if people plan on using cooked roms they still want google to push the updates because that means they would come quicker and therefore the developers would have new versions to create new roms off of.
See. I am learnimg.
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Guys, in ICS there is a feature in which you can hide the apps.
Also i dont think this really matters. The two apps included are something verizon users may want. Looking at your status with the company and backing up information with the carrier hardly seem like bloat apps to me. Also, this is only the case for verizon and not other carriers like sprint, which can uninstall bloatware apps. I still believe google will be pushing out their own updates.
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Verizon users that want them could just install them though! that's the complete opposite of them being installed and people who don't want them being unable to uninstall them...
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Verizon users that want them could just install them though! that's the complete opposite of them being installed and people who don't want them being unable to uninstall them...
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The Verizon customers that don't want them are almost certainly going to know at least enough to be able to remove them, but many of the users that would want them would also fall into that special category of users that know just the bare minimum to be able to use the phone - average users, the ones even XDA noobs can run circles around. They make up the majority of Verizon's customer base, so the big V will cater to them. (They're also a lot more likely to pay for things that can be had for free, because they're a lot less likely to know that those things can be free... it's a two-fold win for any service provider)
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Simply put, google can still update the phone.
I don't understand how the OP jumped to the conclusion he did. How does two "bloatware" apps point to "the end of nexus geting [sic] updates directly from google"?
Nonsensical, I tell you!
AmericanJedi001 said:
I don't understand how the OP jumped to the conclusion he did. How does two "bloatware" apps point to "the end of nexus geting [sic] updates directly from google"?
Nonsensical, I tell you!
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I think this is the logic:
When a phone gets major customization from a carrier such as Sense or Touchwiz, it complicates the updates and delays updates due to additional testing and debugging needed on these customized ROMS. People are assuming that is the reason why US carriers get updates so much later than the much more plain European versions. So, the OP assumes that adding two Verizon apps is somehow as complex a modification as adding Touchwiz, therefor it will delay the release of jellybean, or whatever the next version will be called.
Seems pretty silly to me.
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I think this is the logic:
When a phone gets major customization from a carrier such as Sense or Touchwiz, it complicates the updates and delays updates due to additional testing and debugging needed on these customized ROMS. People are assuming that is the reason why US carriers get updates so much later than the much more plain European versions. So, the OP assumes that adding two Verizon apps is somehow as complex a modification as adding Touchwiz, therefor it will delay the release of jellybean, or whatever the next version will be called.
Seems pretty silly to me.
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What I was trying to say all along. Thank you.
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