For the past week I've been on the fence as to whether or not I would keep my HD2, and for a couple of days I thought I was going to return it. I ended up finding the source of the problem I was having, and after really getting to understand the OS, I changed my mind.
I ran HardSPL and flashed to a couple of different ROMs, but after encountering similar issues with both cooked ROMs, I decided to flash to a stock ROM and try again. By this point, I was convinced I was going to return it, so I went ahead and flashed via microSD, uninstalling HSPL.
Now that I've decided to keep it, and figured out what was causing the problems, I would like to go back to one of the cooked ROMs (Dnik and Miri's.) I'm hesitant, because I read that reinstalling HSPL after flashing to stock SPL via microSD, I could brick my device. Is this true, or could I reinstall HSPL on my device, and start flashing ROM's again?
In the meantime, I'm making due with the stock ROM (with a bunch of tweaks installed,) and I'm cool with it, but I would much rather the one I was using before.
Thanks in advance to anyone who can help me with this!
Okay is there any reason why you went back to SPL using that method?
All you had to do is run the HSPL program and select part to SPL.
Now that you want to keep it the best thing I can tell you is to maybe go in as a warranty exchange so you don't risk it just make something up and since you have a normal SPL they should take it back.
I was actually thinking of doing that, but would rather not if I don't have to... you know?
I will keep it in mind, just in case.
First I heard of this...
I went to a HSPL'able rom with stock SPL, then I HSPL, task29, flashed new cooked rom, voila.
So if you return back to SPL from HSPL, then go back to HSPL, it could potentially skew your device??? Doesn't sound legit to me..
glcK23 said:
First I heard of this...
I went to a HSPL'able rom with stock SPL, then I HSPL, task29, flashed new cooked rom, voila.
So if you return back to SPL from HSPL, then go back to HSPL, it could potentially skew your device??? Doesn't sound legit to me..
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I was thinking the same, but it specifically says this in the tutorial on flashing for newbs. It sounds logical that if I flashed to a stock ROM with a hackable SPL version, I should be able to reinstall HardSPL... but I'm not taking the chance without confirmation.
glcK23 said:
First I heard of this...
I went to a HSPL'able rom with stock SPL, then I HSPL, task29, flashed new cooked rom, voila.
So if you return back to SPL from HSPL, then go back to HSPL, it could potentially skew your device??? Doesn't sound legit to me..
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If you read in this Thread by mskip ( senior Moderator) he explains on how to flash custom roms and if you flash a stock rom via microSD the HSPL2 would be over written by the SPL that is attached to the stock rom which means you would not be able to HSPL and could possibly brick the phone.
Flashing Via MicroSD Card
NOTE (PLEASE READ): If you flash a Stock Rom via microSD Card then it will overwrite your HardSPL with a stock SPL included in the nbh file. If you flash a v2.01 or later Rom (with SPL2.*) you will NOT be able to reinstall HardSPL onto your device and could end up bricking it. This does not apply to custom roms as they do not include an SPL. BE CAREFUL!!
1. Make sure your microSD is Formatted to fat32 (you dont have to delete all files but it is safer if you do)
2. Download your prefered Rom from the LEO Rom Develpoment Page and unzip/unrar it to your PC
3. Goto the Roms Folder and rename the .nbh file to LEOIMG.nbh
4. Copy the LEOIMG.nbh file to the root of your MicroSD Card
5. Plug the MicroSD Card into the phone
6. Reset the device while pressing the volume down button to enter the BootLoader screen, you will first see a tri-color screen with the phone and SPL Information at the top
7. Follow the On Screen instructions to start the update
8. After flash has completed, press the reset button with the stylus to reset the device.
Edit: & after reading that all over again to make sure I don't sound like a stupid idiot i still did. I guess as long as you did not install "If you flash a v2.01 or later Rom (with SPL2.*)" you will end up with an SPL so you will need to HSPL it again. Guess I should have read that more carefully sorry
rlacsamana1989 said:
If you read in this Thread by mskip ( senior Moderator) he explains on how to flash custom roms and if you flash a stock rom via microSD the HSPL2 would be over written by the SPL that is attached to the stock rom which means you would not be able to HSPL and could possibly brick the phone.
Flashing Via MicroSD Card
NOTE (PLEASE READ): If you flash a Stock Rom via microSD Card then it will overwrite your HardSPL with a stock SPL included in the nbh file. If you flash a v2.01 or later Rom (with SPL2.*) you will NOT be able to reinstall HardSPL onto your device and could end up bricking it. This does not apply to custom roms as they do not include an SPL. BE CAREFUL!!
1. Make sure your microSD is Formatted to fat32 (you dont have to delete all files but it is safer if you do)
2. Download your prefered Rom from the LEO Rom Develpoment Page and unzip/unrar it to your PC
3. Goto the Roms Folder and rename the .nbh file to LEOIMG.nbh
4. Copy the LEOIMG.nbh file to the root of your MicroSD Card
5. Plug the MicroSD Card into the phone
6. Reset the device while pressing the volume down button to enter the BootLoader screen, you will first see a tri-color screen with the phone and SPL Information at the top
7. Follow the On Screen instructions to start the update
8. After flash has completed, press the reset button with the stylus to reset the device.
Edit: & after reading that all over again to make sure I don't sound like a stupid idiot i still did. I guess as long as you did not install "If you flash a v2.01 or later Rom (with SPL2.*)" you will end up with an SPL so you will need to HSPL it again. Guess I should have read that more carefully sorry
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So, are you confirming that flashing a stock ROM with a hackable SPL, then running HardSPL again will brick my phone?
I actually flashed to stock ROM 2.10.0 via microSD, then updated to latest stock ROM... if that makes any difference.
Edit- Just found this in the "how to flash via microSD" sticky at the top of this forum... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=681317
"If you are flashing an "Official" ROM direct from HTC or T-Mobile, you will more than likely over-write your SPL (Second Program Loader). This means, even if you have HSPL installed now, you could be reverted back to SSPL, rendering you unable to flash custom ROMs.
To make matters worse, if you flash an ROM higher than 2.10 and you attempt to install the current (as of 5/21/10) HSPL, you will brick your phone. Yeah, it's bad.
So, assuming you have flashed an official ROM over 2.10 via the SD card and you decide you want a custom ROM, follow these simple directions:
(You do not have to have your phone connected to your PC for these steps)
Download the "Official" ROM from here. (Thanks to zelendel for the upload!)
Follow the instructions above to flash your phone with this image.
Once you phone has fully booted, I recommend doing an extra hard-reset.
Next, visit mskip's thread to download the latest HSPL and flash that (you can flash it either via RUU or via microSD).
If done properly you should now be able to once again flash custom ROMs. Congratulations!"
So, this contradicts what is in the "flashing for newbs" thread in the ROM development forum. Hopefully someone notices this and corrects the information accordingly... as this is can really intimidate new users.
gilla409 said:
So, are you confirming that flashing a stock ROM with a hackable SPL, then running HardSPL again will brick my phone?
I actually flashed to stock ROM 2.10.0 via microSD, then updated to latest stock ROM... if that makes any difference.
Edit- Just found this in the sticky at the top of this thread... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=681317
"If you are flashing an "Official" ROM direct from HTC or T-Mobile, you will more than likely over-write your SPL (Second Program Loader). This means, even if you have HSPL installed now, you could be reverted back to SSPL, rendering you unable to flash custom ROMs.
To make matters worse, if you flash an ROM higher than 2.10 and you attempt to install the current (as of 5/21/10) HSPL, you will brick your phone. Yeah, it's bad.
So, assuming you have flashed an official ROM over 2.10 via the SD card and you decide you want a custom ROM, follow these simple directions:
(You do not have to have your phone connected to your PC for these steps)
Download the "Official" ROM from here. (Thanks to zelendel for the upload!)
Follow the instructions above to flash your phone with this image.
Once you phone has fully booted, I recommend doing an extra hard-reset.
Next, visit mskip's thread to download the latest HSPL and flash that (you can flash it either via RUU or via microSD).
If done properly you should now be able to once again flash custom ROMs. Congratulations!"
So, this contradicts what is in the "flashing for newbs" thread in the ROM development forum. Hopefully someone notices this and corrects the information accordingly... as this is can really intimidate new users.
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Well according to your post you updated a stock rom higher than 2.01 but I do not know if that rom had an SPL2 because then it would over write your HSPL2. that initially what you need to find out to see if that stock rom had an SPL2 attached to it.
If you read the quote above, it specifically says "So, assuming you have flashed an official ROM over 2.10 via the SD card and you decide you want a custom ROM, follow these simple directions." This obviously means that HSPL has been uninstalled, and is now SPL2. The link he gives for the "Official" ROM is 2.10... which you can use HardSPL on (which I had to do to flash in the first place, and worked fine.)
I believe the warning in the other tutorial is to warn users, and ensure they don't try to run HardSPL on a device with a ROM version later than 2.10 (which will brick your device.) If I'm reading correctly, this means that as long as I revert back to the stock 2.10 ROM, I can run HardSPL again safely.
This is exactly why I'm hoping someone in the know will shed some light on this subject, and set things straight.
Bumping this to the top, can anyone sort this out? Today is the last day of my buyer's remorse period, so I need to know if I should exchange my device or not.
gilla409 said:
If you read the quote above, it specifically says "So, assuming you have flashed an official ROM over 2.10 via the SD card and you decide you want a custom ROM, follow these simple directions." This obviously means that HSPL has been uninstalled, and is now SPL2. The link he gives for the "Official" ROM is 2.10... which you can use HardSPL on (which I had to do to flash in the first place, and worked fine.)
I believe the warning in the other tutorial is to warn users, and ensure they don't try to run HardSPL on a device with a ROM version later than 2.10 (which will brick your device.) If I'm reading correctly, this means that as long as I revert back to the stock 2.10 ROM, I can run HardSPL again safely.
This is exactly why I'm hoping someone in the know will shed some light on this subject, and set things straight.
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You are understanding this correctly.
If you run the 2.10 ROM from the SD card then it will remove the HSPL2 from your device (if it is the official version w/ SPL)
If you update to the 2.13 ROM from the SD card and it changes the SPL to 2.1 (the tri-colored screen), then DO NOT try to run HSPL2 (this is bad).
If you have 2.13 ROM installed and 2.1 (2.10) SPL installed onto your phone then you can install the 2.10 ROM and it should overwrite the SPL to 2.08.
Now you can install the HSPL2 again.
So to recap; get into your bootloader and find out what SPL you have 2.08 or 2.1; (You can install the 2.13 ROM without it updating the SPL).
2.08 and the word Couletta= you are good to go
2.08 and no Couletta = you can HSPL2 your phone
2.1 downgrade to the 2.10 ROM from the SD card before you even attempt to run HSPL2. and before you try make sure the bootloader shows 2.08!!
hopefully this clears it up for you.
Nibbley15 said:
You are understanding this correctly.
If you run the 2.10 ROM from the SD card then it will remove the HSPL2 from your device (if it is the official version w/ SPL)
If you update to the 2.13 ROM from the SD card and it changes the SPL to 2.1 (the tri-colored screen), then DO NOT try to run HSPL2 (this is bad).
If you have 2.13 ROM installed and 2.1 (2.10) SPL installed onto your phone then you can install the 2.10 ROM and it should overwrite the SPL to 2.08.
Now you can install the HSPL2 again.
So to recap; get into your bootloader and find out what SPL you have 2.08 or 2.1; (You can install the 2.13 ROM without it updating the SPL).
2.08 and the word Couletta= you are good to go
2.08 and no Couletta = you can HSPL2 your phone
2.1 downgrade to the 2.10 ROM from the SD card before you even attempt to run HSPL2. and before you try make sure the bootloader shows 2.08!!
hopefully this clears it up for you.
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That clears things up perfectly, THANK YOU!
I'm getting ready to flash back to 2.10 now, and reinstall Dnik & Miri's ROM... so stoked!
hi there, my hd2 has radio 3.03 and ROM 3.14. from doing a bit of research on the forums I've found that i can run Android roms without needing to flash. however after trying a few different roms they all seem to freeze on the white htc screen even after leaving them go boot for around 30 mins. can anybody please help me with this issue?
appreciate any help given.
bump, anyone?
how do you run your rom?
Android folder on the root of the sd card?
First boot can take 15 minutes
I haven't heard of radio 3.03 it must be your spl.
I use radio 2.15 wich is stock with 3.14 roms
nickytheshaft said:
how do you run your rom?
Android folder on the root of the sd card?
First boot can take 15 minutes
I haven't heard of radio 3.03 it must be your spl.
I use radio 2.15 wich is stock with 3.14 roms
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yeh i use an android folder on my sd card. and sorry my spl is 3.03, my radio is 2.15 and my rom is 3.14. even though i wait for about 30 mins, the phone doesnt boot up and just stays on the white htc screen...
any idea of where its going wrong?
can't boot android
I've got the same prob.After install it works great but after reboot it just hangs on white screen.
Plz help someone
Did you guys format your sd card to FAT32 and follow the correct steps:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=653614
What are your guys' stats in order to help properly.
I need help to install american andriod SD build on my htc
I am doing fresh n clean installation after formating my 4GB sd card but when ever i try to install the build it runs and after appearing hTc logo it stuck on the screen and do not respond even for 20min i tried to do it after removing the battery.
please please help me in this matter
my Radio ROM is 2.10.50
masood8 said:
I need help to install american andriod SD build on my htc
I am doing fresh n clean installation after formating my 4GB sd card but when ever i try to install the build it runs and after appearing hTc logo it stuck on the screen and do not respond even for 20min i tried to do it after removing the battery.
please please help me in this matter
my Radio ROM is 2.10.50
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Hi mate, I use SD American Android and it works well.
You should have SPL 2.08 HSPL
You need Radio 2.15.xx
And you need a custom rom that is compatible. As a reference, I use platinum series custom wm rom (check my sig below)
Reformat your micro sd with fat32. Dont put any files on there, except the Android files in the root of your sd card.
Dont forget to change the gps zone in the "Startup.cfg" to your location/country code
Leave it booting for 30 minutes..
I also thought that it wouldn boot, after almost 30 minutes it booted...
Dont give up mate
silverwind said:
You should have SPL 2.08 HSPL
And you need a custom rom that is compatible.
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You do not have to have HSPL to run Android from SD card, HSPL is only needed if you are going to flash a custom Win Mo ROM, a stock Win Mo ROM that os not for your HD2, MAGLDR, cLK, or if you are going to run a Task 29. I ran three different Android SD builds before going NAND and never had HSPL on my HD2 until I got ready to flash MAGLDR.
Also you do not have to flash a custom ROM to run Android. You just want to have a 3.14 Win Mo ROM be it stock or custom. what matters is that ot is a 3.14 ROM. I ran all three Android SD card builds on a completely stock 3.14 ROM and never had any problems with them, except data drops which are just because they are SD builds.
Oh and by they way I accidently hit your thanks button trying to hit quote. lol
T-Macgnolia said:
You do not have to have HSPL to run Android from SD card, HSPL is only needed if you are going to flash a custom Win Mo ROM, a stock Win Mo ROM that os not for your HD2, MAGLDR, cLK, or if you are going to run a Task 29. I ran three different Android SD builds before going NAND and never had HSPL on my HD2 until I got ready to flash MAGLDR.
Also you do not have to flash a custom ROM to run Android. You just want to have a 3.14 Win Mo ROM be it stock or custom. what matters is that ot is a 3.14 ROM. I ran all three Android SD card builds on a completely stock 3.14 ROM and never had any problems with them, except data drops which are just because they are SD builds.
Oh and by they way I accidently hit your thanks button trying to hit quote. lol
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ok brother let me try it. I will need ur guidence in any case of problem
thanks for the help
Yesterday i was trying to restore my LEO with official HTC 3.14 Rom after a few months playing with Android on Nand... All went well and i didn't had any errors but for my surprise, after reboot i pressed vol down and hspl 2.08 was still there... Ok, so i repeated the process and this time from sd card and the same appened... I tought it would be better to use hspl4 to flash hspl 3.04, and try again, but this time hspl 3.04 was still there after reflash... So, flash29 and hspl2.08, and tried official rom 1.66 from sd card... stuck on 0%... also tried 3.04 from sd card and from pc on bootloader mode, but once flashing, allways stuck on 0%... So, and getting allready to the nerves, battery out once again and use hspl4 to flash original spl 3.04, flashed again from sd card and all went well and the phone booted ok and original... Naturely, the spl3.04 is there but i can't say if it was flashed with original rom, or if it's still the one flashed with hspl4...
Just my 50cents sharing another experience with our beloved LEO...
would it be possible that the Nand is getting "tired" ?
Is Spl 3.04 not the latest from stock? Is that not why we now have hspl4? I've been away from the forums for months so I'm not 100% but I think its just the new spl
Sent from my HTC HD2
If i'm not wrong hspl4 is just a tool that allows you to flash the originals or the bypassed bootloaders 2.08 and 3.04, that's why i decided the last time to flash original spl 3.04... What i forgot to say is that (and most strangly), once i flashed the 3.04 stock rom and it didn't overwrited hspl 2.08 the first time, once the device booted, looking in hardware informations on sence, it displayed 576 mb ram, and that shouldn't appen on a stock rom. Anyway, that's wath made me go back, reboot and check the bootloader version... I could even say that a stock 3.04 EU LEO rom with hspl 2.08, manage to entirely use of the 576mb ram... I'm not sure though... I can only say wath i've seen and could try to reproduce it to confirm it...
I've been trying different roms, different methods (clk,mag, etc) . And I have had no luck all day, every rom gets stuck at the boot screen and I am forced to go back to my stock rom. I've flashed this phone before, so i'm not completely new but i'm obviously no expert. Any thoughts or ideas guys ?
before you flash other , would you try flash sd rom ?
need hspl and not 51 radio.
till now i'm happy with my HD2 , HD2 with android SD rom.
I did try flashing from an SD , mine is 16G and I heard that was too big or something. can you link me to radios if that wouldn't be too much ?
maybe you can use this link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=611787
must be on hspl 2.08 flash.
Not sure which radio to use, but when I get into magldr i try to boot from NAND and I get "Nand kernel open Fail" , the same when i try to boot from SD
i'm not familiar with nand , because i flash nand with this one.
i still can check my radio because i still use with WM6.5
my radio 2.15.50.40