Question about HardSPL, VERY important. - HD2 General

For the past week I've been on the fence as to whether or not I would keep my HD2, and for a couple of days I thought I was going to return it. I ended up finding the source of the problem I was having, and after really getting to understand the OS, I changed my mind.
I ran HardSPL and flashed to a couple of different ROMs, but after encountering similar issues with both cooked ROMs, I decided to flash to a stock ROM and try again. By this point, I was convinced I was going to return it, so I went ahead and flashed via microSD, uninstalling HSPL.
Now that I've decided to keep it, and figured out what was causing the problems, I would like to go back to one of the cooked ROMs (Dnik and Miri's.) I'm hesitant, because I read that reinstalling HSPL after flashing to stock SPL via microSD, I could brick my device. Is this true, or could I reinstall HSPL on my device, and start flashing ROM's again?
In the meantime, I'm making due with the stock ROM (with a bunch of tweaks installed,) and I'm cool with it, but I would much rather the one I was using before.
Thanks in advance to anyone who can help me with this!

Okay is there any reason why you went back to SPL using that method?
All you had to do is run the HSPL program and select part to SPL.
Now that you want to keep it the best thing I can tell you is to maybe go in as a warranty exchange so you don't risk it just make something up and since you have a normal SPL they should take it back.

I was actually thinking of doing that, but would rather not if I don't have to... you know?
I will keep it in mind, just in case.

First I heard of this...
I went to a HSPL'able rom with stock SPL, then I HSPL, task29, flashed new cooked rom, voila.
So if you return back to SPL from HSPL, then go back to HSPL, it could potentially skew your device??? Doesn't sound legit to me..

glcK23 said:
First I heard of this...
I went to a HSPL'able rom with stock SPL, then I HSPL, task29, flashed new cooked rom, voila.
So if you return back to SPL from HSPL, then go back to HSPL, it could potentially skew your device??? Doesn't sound legit to me..
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I was thinking the same, but it specifically says this in the tutorial on flashing for newbs. It sounds logical that if I flashed to a stock ROM with a hackable SPL version, I should be able to reinstall HardSPL... but I'm not taking the chance without confirmation.

glcK23 said:
First I heard of this...
I went to a HSPL'able rom with stock SPL, then I HSPL, task29, flashed new cooked rom, voila.
So if you return back to SPL from HSPL, then go back to HSPL, it could potentially skew your device??? Doesn't sound legit to me..
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If you read in this Thread by mskip ( senior Moderator) he explains on how to flash custom roms and if you flash a stock rom via microSD the HSPL2 would be over written by the SPL that is attached to the stock rom which means you would not be able to HSPL and could possibly brick the phone.
Flashing Via MicroSD Card
NOTE (PLEASE READ): If you flash a Stock Rom via microSD Card then it will overwrite your HardSPL with a stock SPL included in the nbh file. If you flash a v2.01 or later Rom (with SPL2.*) you will NOT be able to reinstall HardSPL onto your device and could end up bricking it. This does not apply to custom roms as they do not include an SPL. BE CAREFUL!!
1. Make sure your microSD is Formatted to fat32 (you dont have to delete all files but it is safer if you do)
2. Download your prefered Rom from the LEO Rom Develpoment Page and unzip/unrar it to your PC
3. Goto the Roms Folder and rename the .nbh file to LEOIMG.nbh
4. Copy the LEOIMG.nbh file to the root of your MicroSD Card
5. Plug the MicroSD Card into the phone
6. Reset the device while pressing the volume down button to enter the BootLoader screen, you will first see a tri-color screen with the phone and SPL Information at the top
7. Follow the On Screen instructions to start the update
8. After flash has completed, press the reset button with the stylus to reset the device.
Edit: & after reading that all over again to make sure I don't sound like a stupid idiot i still did. I guess as long as you did not install "If you flash a v2.01 or later Rom (with SPL2.*)" you will end up with an SPL so you will need to HSPL it again. Guess I should have read that more carefully sorry

rlacsamana1989 said:
If you read in this Thread by mskip ( senior Moderator) he explains on how to flash custom roms and if you flash a stock rom via microSD the HSPL2 would be over written by the SPL that is attached to the stock rom which means you would not be able to HSPL and could possibly brick the phone.
Flashing Via MicroSD Card
NOTE (PLEASE READ): If you flash a Stock Rom via microSD Card then it will overwrite your HardSPL with a stock SPL included in the nbh file. If you flash a v2.01 or later Rom (with SPL2.*) you will NOT be able to reinstall HardSPL onto your device and could end up bricking it. This does not apply to custom roms as they do not include an SPL. BE CAREFUL!!
1. Make sure your microSD is Formatted to fat32 (you dont have to delete all files but it is safer if you do)
2. Download your prefered Rom from the LEO Rom Develpoment Page and unzip/unrar it to your PC
3. Goto the Roms Folder and rename the .nbh file to LEOIMG.nbh
4. Copy the LEOIMG.nbh file to the root of your MicroSD Card
5. Plug the MicroSD Card into the phone
6. Reset the device while pressing the volume down button to enter the BootLoader screen, you will first see a tri-color screen with the phone and SPL Information at the top
7. Follow the On Screen instructions to start the update
8. After flash has completed, press the reset button with the stylus to reset the device.
Edit: & after reading that all over again to make sure I don't sound like a stupid idiot i still did. I guess as long as you did not install "If you flash a v2.01 or later Rom (with SPL2.*)" you will end up with an SPL so you will need to HSPL it again. Guess I should have read that more carefully sorry
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So, are you confirming that flashing a stock ROM with a hackable SPL, then running HardSPL again will brick my phone?
I actually flashed to stock ROM 2.10.0 via microSD, then updated to latest stock ROM... if that makes any difference.
Edit- Just found this in the "how to flash via microSD" sticky at the top of this forum... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=681317
"If you are flashing an "Official" ROM direct from HTC or T-Mobile, you will more than likely over-write your SPL (Second Program Loader). This means, even if you have HSPL installed now, you could be reverted back to SSPL, rendering you unable to flash custom ROMs.
To make matters worse, if you flash an ROM higher than 2.10 and you attempt to install the current (as of 5/21/10) HSPL, you will brick your phone. Yeah, it's bad.
So, assuming you have flashed an official ROM over 2.10 via the SD card and you decide you want a custom ROM, follow these simple directions:
(You do not have to have your phone connected to your PC for these steps)
Download the "Official" ROM from here. (Thanks to zelendel for the upload!)
Follow the instructions above to flash your phone with this image.
Once you phone has fully booted, I recommend doing an extra hard-reset.
Next, visit mskip's thread to download the latest HSPL and flash that (you can flash it either via RUU or via microSD).
If done properly you should now be able to once again flash custom ROMs. Congratulations!"
So, this contradicts what is in the "flashing for newbs" thread in the ROM development forum. Hopefully someone notices this and corrects the information accordingly... as this is can really intimidate new users.

gilla409 said:
So, are you confirming that flashing a stock ROM with a hackable SPL, then running HardSPL again will brick my phone?
I actually flashed to stock ROM 2.10.0 via microSD, then updated to latest stock ROM... if that makes any difference.
Edit- Just found this in the sticky at the top of this thread... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=681317
"If you are flashing an "Official" ROM direct from HTC or T-Mobile, you will more than likely over-write your SPL (Second Program Loader). This means, even if you have HSPL installed now, you could be reverted back to SSPL, rendering you unable to flash custom ROMs.
To make matters worse, if you flash an ROM higher than 2.10 and you attempt to install the current (as of 5/21/10) HSPL, you will brick your phone. Yeah, it's bad.
So, assuming you have flashed an official ROM over 2.10 via the SD card and you decide you want a custom ROM, follow these simple directions:
(You do not have to have your phone connected to your PC for these steps)
Download the "Official" ROM from here. (Thanks to zelendel for the upload!)
Follow the instructions above to flash your phone with this image.
Once you phone has fully booted, I recommend doing an extra hard-reset.
Next, visit mskip's thread to download the latest HSPL and flash that (you can flash it either via RUU or via microSD).
If done properly you should now be able to once again flash custom ROMs. Congratulations!"
So, this contradicts what is in the "flashing for newbs" thread in the ROM development forum. Hopefully someone notices this and corrects the information accordingly... as this is can really intimidate new users.
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Well according to your post you updated a stock rom higher than 2.01 but I do not know if that rom had an SPL2 because then it would over write your HSPL2. that initially what you need to find out to see if that stock rom had an SPL2 attached to it.

If you read the quote above, it specifically says "So, assuming you have flashed an official ROM over 2.10 via the SD card and you decide you want a custom ROM, follow these simple directions." This obviously means that HSPL has been uninstalled, and is now SPL2. The link he gives for the "Official" ROM is 2.10... which you can use HardSPL on (which I had to do to flash in the first place, and worked fine.)
I believe the warning in the other tutorial is to warn users, and ensure they don't try to run HardSPL on a device with a ROM version later than 2.10 (which will brick your device.) If I'm reading correctly, this means that as long as I revert back to the stock 2.10 ROM, I can run HardSPL again safely.
This is exactly why I'm hoping someone in the know will shed some light on this subject, and set things straight.

Bumping this to the top, can anyone sort this out? Today is the last day of my buyer's remorse period, so I need to know if I should exchange my device or not.

gilla409 said:
If you read the quote above, it specifically says "So, assuming you have flashed an official ROM over 2.10 via the SD card and you decide you want a custom ROM, follow these simple directions." This obviously means that HSPL has been uninstalled, and is now SPL2. The link he gives for the "Official" ROM is 2.10... which you can use HardSPL on (which I had to do to flash in the first place, and worked fine.)
I believe the warning in the other tutorial is to warn users, and ensure they don't try to run HardSPL on a device with a ROM version later than 2.10 (which will brick your device.) If I'm reading correctly, this means that as long as I revert back to the stock 2.10 ROM, I can run HardSPL again safely.
This is exactly why I'm hoping someone in the know will shed some light on this subject, and set things straight.
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You are understanding this correctly.
If you run the 2.10 ROM from the SD card then it will remove the HSPL2 from your device (if it is the official version w/ SPL)
If you update to the 2.13 ROM from the SD card and it changes the SPL to 2.1 (the tri-colored screen), then DO NOT try to run HSPL2 (this is bad).
If you have 2.13 ROM installed and 2.1 (2.10) SPL installed onto your phone then you can install the 2.10 ROM and it should overwrite the SPL to 2.08.
Now you can install the HSPL2 again.
So to recap; get into your bootloader and find out what SPL you have 2.08 or 2.1; (You can install the 2.13 ROM without it updating the SPL).
2.08 and the word Couletta= you are good to go
2.08 and no Couletta = you can HSPL2 your phone
2.1 downgrade to the 2.10 ROM from the SD card before you even attempt to run HSPL2. and before you try make sure the bootloader shows 2.08!!
hopefully this clears it up for you.

Nibbley15 said:
You are understanding this correctly.
If you run the 2.10 ROM from the SD card then it will remove the HSPL2 from your device (if it is the official version w/ SPL)
If you update to the 2.13 ROM from the SD card and it changes the SPL to 2.1 (the tri-colored screen), then DO NOT try to run HSPL2 (this is bad).
If you have 2.13 ROM installed and 2.1 (2.10) SPL installed onto your phone then you can install the 2.10 ROM and it should overwrite the SPL to 2.08.
Now you can install the HSPL2 again.
So to recap; get into your bootloader and find out what SPL you have 2.08 or 2.1; (You can install the 2.13 ROM without it updating the SPL).
2.08 and the word Couletta= you are good to go
2.08 and no Couletta = you can HSPL2 your phone
2.1 downgrade to the 2.10 ROM from the SD card before you even attempt to run HSPL2. and before you try make sure the bootloader shows 2.08!!
hopefully this clears it up for you.
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That clears things up perfectly, THANK YOU!
I'm getting ready to flash back to 2.10 now, and reinstall Dnik & Miri's ROM... so stoked!

Related

Method of flashing?

Which is the best way to flash the Leo now?
Some chefs recommend flashing back to an original rom then to a custom.
Now we have a working HSPL, until now Bepe's custom RUU was used for flashing just the OS part (and this util is still part of the Rom's on here). Do we now no longer use this and use UDK's customRUU instead?
It just seems that when I flash one custom rom over another and one over that one etc etc, I always end up with strange rom results :-/
jonboyuk said:
It just seems that when I flash one custom rom over another and one over that one etc etc, I always end up with strange rom results :-/
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I would of thought that problems with ROMS are due more to them all being new and the chefs trying to iron out the bugs....I ended up going through most of the roms available on the site until I found one that worked for me.
The only time I install an official rom is if I have problems booting and am not able to get activesync working otherwise I just go straight over the top of whatever rom is on my device and then hard reset before booting up for the first time.
Awesome! Good advice, thank you!
Ok, just to piggyback on this. As a first time flasher (without the HD2 as yet), have i got this correct:
a) Install HSPL so I can install 1.48 or 1.61 onto my 1.43 device without goldcard by placing the HTC Rom on a FAT16 microsd card as leoimg.nbh? Then should i want to do that again I will have to re-install hspl?
b) For cooked roms, install HSPL, then use SSPL to install cooked rom. Should it all go wrong I can then put back my stock 1.61 ROM onto a sd card and voila back to work without goldcard?
chris_ah1 said:
Ok, just to piggyback on this. As a first time flasher (without the HD2 as yet), have i got this correct:
a) Install HSPL so I can install 1.48 or 1.61 onto my 1.43 device without goldcard by placing the HTC Rom on a FAT16 microsd card as leoimg.nbh? Then should i want to do that again I will have to re-install hspl?
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I believe that the micro sd card should be formated FAT32. Just remember that when you flash an offical ROM, it will also remove the HSPL so you will need to reinstall it.
chris_ah1 said:
b) For cooked roms, install HSPL, then use SSPL to install cooked rom. Should it all go wrong I can then put back my stock 1.61 ROM onto a sd card and voila back to work without goldcard?
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I only use SSPL, but I've got a Goldcard in case of problems.....just follow the guides and without the goldcard, it's a good idea to make sure that HSPL is installed so you've got a way to revert back if you have any problems. Hope that explains it a bit better
Yep, that's precisely what I thought. thanks for confirming it.
I understand that some regulars are getting irritated by general newbie questions but sometimes it is good just to confirm and understanding of how it all works before hosing a device and then asking stupid qs on how to fix rather than posting how great a new ROM is
sadly I'm a bit too lazy to do the goldcard thing. But I might get one done for safety.
chris_ah1 said:
Ok, just to piggyback on this. As a first time flasher (without the HD2 as yet), have i got this correct:
a) Install HSPL so I can install 1.48 or 1.61 onto my 1.43 device without goldcard by placing the HTC Rom on a FAT16 microsd card as leoimg.nbh? Then should i want to do that again I will have to re-install hspl?
b) For cooked roms, install HSPL, then use SSPL to install cooked rom. Should it all go wrong I can then put back my stock 1.61 ROM onto a sd card and voila back to work without goldcard?
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You do not need any sspl to install a cooked rom when you've hspl'ed your leo.
You can revert back to the original spl by using the sd card method with a stock rom.
chris_ah1 said:
Yep, that's precisely what I thought. thanks for confirming it.
I understand that some regulars are getting irritated by general newbie questions but sometimes it is good just to confirm and understanding of how it all works before hosing a device and then asking stupid qs on how to fix rather than posting how great a new ROM is
sadly I'm a bit too lazy to do the goldcard thing. But I might get one done for safety.
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too bad you got the wrong answer. there is no need for sspl or goldcard after you use HSPL. with that you can install official and custom roms. you don't have to install hspl again. just the once. UNLESS you install a official ROM with the SD card method. that will overwrite HSPL with the original (locked) SPL. you can flash a original ROM over usb. this will leave the hspl intact.
Svenvdmeer said:
too bad you got the wrong answer. there is no need for sspl or goldcard after you use HSPL. with that you can install official and custom roms. you don't have to install hspl again. just the once. UNLESS you install a official ROM with the SD card method. that will overwrite HSPL with the original (locked) SPL. you can flash a original ROM over usb. this will leave the hspl intact.
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Am i bad, just trying to help. Still all they were after was some reassurence they wouldn't brick there device and what i said was at worst long winded.
Didn't see anyone else rushing to help.
So are we supposed to use UDK's RUU utility to flash now?
Svenvdmeer said:
too bad you got the wrong answer. there is no need for sspl or goldcard after you use HSPL. with that you can install official and custom roms. you don't have to install hspl again. just the once. UNLESS you install a official ROM with the SD card method. that will overwrite HSPL with the original (locked) SPL. you can flash a original ROM over usb. this will leave the hspl intact.
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So no cooked ROM will over-write HSPL?
ah, good. I just saw some ROm page (i think Xannytech) which said use only SSPL.
I dunno - it's all a bit technical for a first timer. perhaps i should stick to official updates and CABs for now.
Hopefully someone can put down some clear methods/ways for the new people, as there seems to be a lot of conflicting ideas (or maybe i'm imagining it).
I just tried flashing stock 1.61 to my 1.48 Leo, (after installing HSPL, which seemed to install fine).
I done a bad flash though (for whatever reason) as the phone just went in to perpetual rebooting after the update utility completed. Just managed to get it started by reflashing 1.48 back on to it.
Well here is the issue Hskalay:
You are meant to be able to uninstall HSPL...but some say that flashing a stock rom does not uninstall it.
Some say that cooked roms include SPL.nbh and that it will overwrite HSPL. In fact some rom cookers have said in their posts to only use SSPL and not sd flashing via leoimg.nbh and HSPL. However others say that cooked ROMS do not (and should not) overwrite the HSPL.
From what I have gathered without clear consensus is that as long as HSPL is on the device, ANY rom can be installed from the sd card - cooked or official. Without HSPL you NEEDED goldcard. With HSPL you can still use goldcard but it isnt essential, as long as HSPL works and boots.
From what I have read, it appears that HSPL is a bootloader like GRUB or windows boot loader or LILO. The difference from SSPL is that HSPL gets written to the boot sector, and SSPL is a temporary fix as if you installed GRUB/LILO to your linux system partition and had the stock bootloader in the boot sector point to it to boot.
Goldcard: you dont need a working bootloader (Bepe's HSPL or stock), you dont need a working ROM.
HSPL: you need a working bootloader (i.e HSPL of course), you dont need a working ROM.
SSPL: you need working rom, and working bootloader.
If you ever over-write your Bepe HSPL you will need to put it back on. hence it is not a once only deal. However, it appears as said that it is not over-written.
Thanks for your reply Chris.
With HSPL - Do the rom HAVE to be installed via the SD card? Or can they be launch and installed from the PC (via USB). ie install HSPL to the phone, and then running the standard update program for say, 1.48 to 1.61 (which needed goldcard previously if I am correct).
Right just tested everything out this morning. Installed HSPL.
Can run installs either using CustomRUU or SSPLRUU tools either leaving the phone in active sync or in the boot loader menu by holding down Vol Down key.
To install new Radio ROM just use CustomRUU as this won't wipe your device
and just install the radio. There is a tread with all the Radio only roms here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=611787
Also wiped HSPL by installing original O2 ROM and this did clear the HSPL. To install original ROM, just copy the nbh to the device, rename it to LEOIMG.nbh and then reboot into the Bootloader and it will then reinstall the rom. Just to let you know I got some wiered error when doing this and it restarted the update and then completed. Hope this helps
It's been said that at the moment you shouldn't install custom ROMs by copying the nbh files to your memory card.
Update:
To reinstall HSPL again after flashing original ROM, I had to remove my memory card or it would not work.

HD2 bricked ? Attempted to install UK WWE 1.66 onto Voda HD2 with HPSL

Help!
First time attempt at using HPSL and may have bricked my HD2 :-(
I have a Voda supplied HD2 so can't install the stock ROMs directly...I thought I would be able to do so via HPSL, but it seems not. I was trying to install 1.66 (UK WWE) following the HPSL for dummies guide, and did the following:
- installed HPSL onto HD2, confirmed by going into bootloader
- put nbh file (extracted from stock .exe) onto SD card, named LEOIMG.nbh
- entered bootloader and chose flash option via power button
- flash started (minimal progress)
- within 2mins error showed
- now going into bootloader shows
00028002
Not allow
then..
SPL-1.42.0000 :-(
Upgrade ROM code error Please try again
If I start normally I get a warning triangle.
How can I get my HD2 back from the dead, ideally with 1.66 rather than the crummy Voda 1.43? (can anyone point me at a stock ROM for the voda 1.43, perhaps that would at least unbrick it?)
Help!!!!
*EDIT* Currently downloading the Voda 1.43 image, hoping I can at least get that back and running...if that works will still be keen to find out how to apply stock 1.66 via HPSL (bearing in mind that the CID lock(?) means I can't apply 1.66 on my voda device thru normal means)
CraigBruce said:
(can anyone point me at a stock ROM for the voda 1.43, perhaps that would at least unbrick it?)Help!!!!
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The 3rd sticky down in the HD2 ROM Development thread is titled, "[REF]Leo Official ROMs" - Click that.
Then click, "Shared folder for shipped Leo ROMs".
The first "box" will have the title "Leo 1.43" under it. Click the hand carrying the folder icon.
You'll be greeted with 3 ROM's, select RUU_Leo_Vodafone_UK_1.43.405.1_Radio_Signed_15.26. 50.07U_2.04.50.22_2_Ship.exe and download it.
Hope that helps.
Good luck with getting your phone back up and running.
Your device is not bricked. I think you have not installed HSPL properly.
Try installing HSPL again. As it seems your HSPL is not installed properly. Follow the following instructions very carefully :
Connect your phone to USB
I think when you boot in by default your device goes into bootloader if not press volume down + power butoon on the same time, your phone will enter tri color bootloader mode.
At the bottom of your screen it shoul show "USB"
Now download the HSPL.zip file(I have attached it here)
Now run HSPL.exe and follow the onscreen insteuctions.(Mostly you have nothing to do it will start installing automatically)
After a while on the screen of your phone a text will appear saying "We hacked it". If this text is displayed then everything went ok. Now confirm by clicking yes on the computer screen and it will finish the process.
All done.
Your phone will restart.
If you want to check that your fone has HSPL then press volume down+power key at the same time. The phone will enter into bootloader and should show "cotullaHSPL".
Now you can install any ROM and it will run properly.
Thanks - had just found that and started downloading as you posted this..fingers crossed! If this works will still be keen on ways to apply 1.66 (stock) to my voda CID locked device.
ankush1492 said:
Your device is not bricked. I think you have not installed HSPL properly.
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After a while on the screen of your phone a text will appear saying "We hacked it". If this text is displayed then everything went ok. Now confirm by clicking yes on the computer screen and it will finish the process.
All done.
Your phone will restart.
If you want to check that your fone has HSPL then press volume down+power key at the same time. The phone will enter into bootloader and should show "cotullaHSPL".
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This is exactly what happened 1st time I installed HSPL...however trying it again did get the phone back and apparenty healthy again....thanks!
So - 2nd attempt to flash the 1.66 ROM, same as before. Confirmed HSPL installed via tri-colour bootloader screen, selected (via power button) option to flash from SD. Progress bar gets to (max) 10%, Warning triangle briefly shows then phone goes back to tricolour bootloader (but with std. SPL version) and nothing more happens.
Should I be waiting longer ? i.e. is the phone potentially still flashing when on the tricolour, std. SPL, screen ? Not flashed an HD2 before so not 100% sure I'm doing this right..will double check videos on this site, sure I'm just being stupid/impatient/not read enough....may try downloading the ROM again incase corrupted.
Anyway, HSPL installed for 3rd time and phone appears fine back running with 1.43.
People please read the HSPL thread properly, once you have installed the HSPL you CANNOT install from SD card you HAVE TO USE THE PC to install any rom images that are not original HTC.
CraigBruce said:
This is exactly what happened 1st time I installed HSPL...however trying it again did get the phone back and apparenty healthy again....thanks!
So - 2nd attempt to flash the 1.66 ROM, same as before. Confirmed HSPL installed via tri-colour bootloader screen, selected (via power button) option to flash from SD. Progress bar gets to (max) 10%, Warning triangle briefly shows then phone goes back to tricolour bootloader (but with std. SPL version) and nothing more happens.
Should I be waiting longer ? i.e. is the phone potentially still flashing when on the tricolour, std. SPL, screen ? Not flashed an HD2 before so not 100% sure I'm doing this right..will double check videos on this site, sure I'm just being stupid/impatient/not read enough....may try downloading the ROM again incase corrupted.
Anyway, HSPL installed for 3rd time and phone appears fine back running with 1.43.
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Yeah, the 1.66 ROM you've downloaded may be corrupted. And next time, try installing the ROM with USB connection and the ROM's .exe file. You SPL is reverting back to stock, so it's possible that the culprit is flashing with SD.
OK, problem solved...
Rather than installing the stock ROM via HSPL bootloader I installed HSPL and then ran the RUU exe for the stock ROM. Phone now upgraded
dragon_soft said:
People please read the HSPL thread properly, once you have installed the HSPL you CANNOT install from SD card you HAVE TO USE THE PC to install any rom images that are not original HTC.
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Thats not true, you can flash custom roms with hspl from an sd card
see my video *here*
dragon_soft said:
People please read the HSPL thread properly, once you have installed the HSPL you CANNOT install from SD card you HAVE TO USE THE PC to install any rom images that are not original HTC.
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Thats not true, you can flash custom roms with hspl from an sd card
see my video *here*
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I believe Dragon Soft was possibly referring to not using a stock ROM from SD? If I remember correctly flashing a Stock ROM from SD with HSPL on will remove HSPL.
So in other words, if you have HSPL and want to have a stock ROM, it is best install it from the PC when connected via ActiveSync as this won't affect the HSPL.
Custom ROM absolutely no probs with flashing from SD, the HSPL will stay intact, good work on the video ★
CraigBruce said:
OK, problem solved...
Rather than installing the stock ROM via HSPL bootloader I installed HSPL and then ran the RUU exe for the stock ROM. Phone now upgraded
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Ok. I think you were trying to install official ROM. When you install an official rom your bootloader will revert back to SPL...
dragon_soft said:
People please read the HSPL thread properly, once you have installed the HSPL you CANNOT install from SD card you HAVE TO USE THE PC to install any rom images that are not original HTC.
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thats not true. After HSPL you can intall directly from sd card..I have done it almost 100 times.
Ibb1982 said:
I believe Dragon Soft was possibly referring to not using a stock ROM from SD? If I remember correctly flashing a Stock ROM from SD with HSPL on will remove HSPL.
So in other words, if you have HSPL and want to have a stock ROM, it is best install it from the PC when connected via ActiveSync as this won't affect the HSPL.
Custom ROM absolutely no probs with flashing from SD, the HSPL will stay intact, good work on the video ★
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Well if he does mean that then fair enough, I just thought that he meant custom when he said "that are not official" but whatever, sorry for the mis understanding
Ibb1982 said:
So in other words, if you have HSPL and want to have a stock ROM, it is best install it from the PC when connected via ActiveSync as this won't affect the HSPL.
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I got my Leo two days ago, went home, put HSPL on it in the first place, wanted to upgrade the stock ROM, and ended up same as CraigBruce. Really frustrating, thought I'd bricked it. So I re-flashed HSPL and this time a custom ROM and it was back up again.
Now I know that I should have flashed the stock ROM via ActiveSync and not SD card which would have left the HSPL intact. I will definitely remember that for the future
just remember that some people WANT to remove HSPL when installing a stock ROM - e.g. when returning device.
tbh it should have worked with stock ROM and sdcard as leoimg.nbh - it is the way listed in HSPL thread to uninstall after all!!! we dont always want to use customRUU!!!
As from the noob flashing thread
NOTE: The only way to remove the HSPL is to flash an original SPL from microSD card
* You can also use this method to flash back your Stock Rom and Stock SPL that you originally had on your phone*
VIDEO TUTORIAL: [★] has made a YouTube video to walk people through flashing a Stock SPL via activesync. Find it *HERE*
- Download a shipped Rom from *HERE*
- Rename the extension to .zip
- open it with winzip and extract the RUU_signed.nbh file to a folder
- Rename it to LEOIMG.nbh and copy it to the root of a microSD card thats been formatted to FAT32
- Insert your storage card into your phone
- Enter Bootloader and follow onscreen instructions to flash
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Guys, I had reached the exact same issue with the NOT ALLOW problem. And people, we do read some times (the newbies) and nowhere but here you say that AFTER HSPL YOU MUST NOT UGPRADE FROM MEMORY CARD!!!! And NO it is not included inhere: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=609477
Cheers,
and thanks to all the smart people inhere!
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thug_life_inc said:
Guys, I had reached the exact same issue with the NOT ALLOW problem. And people, we do read some times (the newbies) and nowhere but here you say that AFTER HSPL YOU MUST NOT UGPRADE FROM MEMORY CARD!!!! And NO it is not included inhere: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=609477
Cheers,
and thanks to all the smart people inhere!
D
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With hspl installed you CAN flash CUSTOM roms using sd card, it is only flashing OFFICIAL roms through sd card that removes hspl.
sorry to crash this thread but...
i have flashed HSPL on to my HD2 and am now wanting to install HTC's new 1.66 rom.
i have a VF hd2 so i am a little worried i will hit the same issues as the OP did.
can some one hold my hand through flashing the ROM as im a complete noob to this.. i have read the FAQs and im a bit like with all the acronyms etc
adam_r said:
sorry to crash this thread but...
i have flashed HSPL on to my HD2 and am now wanting to install HTC's new 1.66 rom.
i have a VF hd2 so i am a little worried i will hit the same issues as the OP did.
can some one hold my hand through flashing the ROM as im a complete noob to this.. i have read the FAQs and im a bit like with all the acronyms etc
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Use the custom ruu to flash it. Do not put the nbh on the sd. I quote from the "[HSPL]How to flash everything" thread:
4) Uninstallation
Only way to remove the HSPL is to flash an original SPL from SD card.
- Take any "RUU_signed.nbh" from a ship ROM and copy it to SD card.
- Rename it to "leoimg.nbh"
- Reset the device while pressing the volume down button.
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Why people cant read? refering to the person who started this thread.
No Problem Flashhing to 1.66 on a Voda HD2 with HSPL
I have a voda HD2 and being a total Newbie to the HTC / WM .. I followed the Dummie guide.. (thanx to all, for that.. fantastic..) installed HSPL..and then installed the latest 1.66 from the HTC site using a boggus serial number.. As actual would not let me download it. No problemo..
Feeling a bit more adventureous.. any suggestions for the best 'cooked Rom' ??
From my understanding, you can flash away Stock ROMS using activesync. No need for HSPL.

How can I reset my phone back to stock & update it.

I tried a few cooked roms and I like some things about them and others I dont, so I was going to flash my phone back to stock and if there are any upgrades/updates I would like to do so also.... Please advise me, should I do this why or why not... and How can I go about doing this ? (Would I just use hspl2 1024 and reinstall 2.08 first, then install the latest stock rom ? -but where can I find the latest official stock rom?-can I get it from htc? )....
thanks in adavance...
If you have already run hspl2 there is no need to do it again. All you need to do is download the shipped rom (available here and at ppcgeeks.com) and flash it. There haven't been any updates for the stock rom as of yet. Your personal choice on if you want custom rom or stock. Custom roms usually have less bloatware and performance enhancements that make them ideal over the stock rom.
Link to stock rom: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=653938&highlight=tmobile
looking for help
I installed hspl 2.08.0000 and flashed a custom rom, then I tried to flashed a vodafone Uk shipped Rom and now my Hd2 won't even boot up, when I connect it to the usb windows xp sees the device and tries to install a driver but then fails to find a driver. I cant even use mtty because usb is not listed as one of the selections. does anyone know how to help Please
Could be because you flashed a shipped rom that is for a different device. The european HD2 is different than the US HD2. If you have a US HD2 flash a rom that is designed for 1024 Leo (recommend Miri and Steve's Eleganicia). Put the phone in bootloader and then flash from pc or you can rename the .nbh from a rom to LEOIMG.nbh and place that in the root of your storage card to flash. Can get to bootloader by holding volume down and pressing the reset button under the back cover, holding vol key til tri-colored screen appears.
it wont let me get into bootloader mode, my computer does see the hd2 but wont let me access the usb
Maybe someone else can chime to correct me if im wrong but sounds like you now have one expensive paper weight. Flashing a rom that is not for your phone is not good.
Flashing a Euro Rom on your TmoUS HD2 will brick your phone - for good. Why are so many people doing this?
tmo are sure to get wise to this and stop replacing them at this rate. I've seen 6 or 7 people with the same problem in two days.
Guys with a tmous,
1 - DONT flash any stock roms except the one from tmous. Stock roms include a radio and it will kill your phone.
2 - DONT flash any radio with a .51. in the version. It will kill your phone.
3 - dont flash any cooked rom not based on the 2.10 rom. It will kill your phone. (i think, , , possibly recoverable, not sure yet)
4 - most of all read first, flash later.
OK PLEASE do not hijack the topic,
Remember I asked how can I reset my phone back to completely stock (like when I first bought it).... and then after that I would like to update it (if there are any updates)....
Thanks for all the advice so far...
erebusting said:
OK PLEASE do not hijack the topic,
Remember I asked how can I reset my phone back to completely stock (like when I first bought it).... and then after that I would like to update it (if there are any updates)....
Thanks for all the advice so far...
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2 ways.
1 - connect phone via USB, run hspl1024, choose spl 2.08.0000, thats your spl back to stock. Then flash the tmous 2.1 rom over usb, thats your radio and rom returned to stock.
2 - you can get the tmous 2.1 rom, extract the file ruu_signed.nbh, copy it to sd card, rename it leoimg.nbh and reset your phone, which will see the nbh file and flash it, and because it is from sd card it will also reset the spl (and radio) to stock.
i'd go for option 1, as i haven't read much about people flashing sd card on the tmous, so for now steer clear.
samsamuel said:
2 ways.
1 - connect phone via USB, run hspl1024, choose spl 2.08.0000, thats your spl back to stock. Then flash the tmous 2.1 rom over usb, thats your radio and rom returned to stock.
2 - you can get the tmous 2.1 rom, extract the file ruu_signed.nbh, copy it to sd card, rename it leoimg.nbh and reset your phone, which will see the nbh file and flash it, and because it is from sd card it will also reset the spl (and radio) to stock.
i'd go for option 1, as i haven't read much about people flashing sd card on the tmous, so for now steer clear.
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thank you... so will this unvoid my warranty?
erebusting said:
thank you... so will this unvoid my warranty?
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it's the spl that voids the warranty, not the rom. when you boot to bootloader, so long as it says
spl 2.08.0000
then you are good to go.
Thank you!

Reverting ROM

I did a little searching around the forums but some of the answers posted to similar questions didn't really help, plus most of them were links to other threads.
Ok so heres my situation:
I recently upgraded to 2.13xxxxxx ROM from the T-Mobile HD2 website. Im having difficulty with the touch sensitivity and i have tried a cab file someone posted that tweaks the registry. I guess it worked but anyways. Since Flashing and tweaking i decided i want to revert back to the Stock 2.10xxxxx ROM that came with my phone. I plan on Flashing with custom roms in the future.
My question is simply, what do i need to do to flash my rom from 2.13xxxx back to 2.10xxxx with stock radio 2.8xxxxx. I have visited xmoo's thread with stock roms but im still unsure of what im doing since i just got this HD2 recently.
Heres some additional info,
Currently i run:
2.13.531.1 (90963) WWE ROM
ROM Date: 4/28/10 (Leaked?)
Radio version: 2.10.50.26
When i updated my ROM from 2.10 to 2.13 i use the USB Active Sync method suggested on the Tmobile download website. I didn't flash from the SD Card
EDIT: I went into Bootloader mode and what i see is this:
SPL-2.10.0000 8G XE
Does that mean anything?
I heard a lot of talk about doing something to ur HSPL and SPL or something, but i have absolutely no idea wtf people are talking about lol.
So if someone could give me the details as to how i can flash my rom back to stock, that would be helpful. And yes, i have read the tutorial about flashing your first GSM, still dont get it.
flash via SD card
I did the same thing and what you need to do is take this link and make a folder somewhere and right click on the winrar file and extract here to the folder you made and take the nbh file and rename this (LEOIMG.nbh) and place it on your sd card make sure its on the root of the sd card and not in a folder.Here are some instruction i used.Good Luck,ping33tx P.S remember that you will have to redo the spl and run the hspl again,once that's done your home free to flashing till you get tired of it,lol.
NOTE (PLEASE READ): If you flash a Stock Rom via microSD Card then it will overwrite your HardSPL with a stock SPL included in the nbh file. If you flash a v2.01 or later Rom (with SPL2.*) you will NOT be able to reinstall HardSPL onto your device and could end up bricking it. This does not apply to custom roms as they do not include an SPL. BE CAREFUL!!
1. Make sure your microSD is Formatted to fat32 (you dont have to delete all files but it is safer if you do)
2. Download your prefered Rom from the LEO Rom Develpoment Page and unzip/unrar it to your PC
3. Goto the Roms Folder and rename the .nbh file to LEOIMG.nbh
4. Copy the LEOIMG.nbh file to the root of your MicroSD Card
5. Plug the MicroSD Card into the phone
6. Reset the device while pressing the volume down button to enter the BootLoader screen, you will first see a tri-color screen with the phone and SPL Information at the top
7. Follow the On Screen instructions to start the update
8. After flash has completed, press the reset button with the stylus to reset the device
[ROM][6 May 10][V2.0][23568][B 2.10.1][Kumar's TMOUS HD2][Available in 3 Flavors]
Premium Version 2.0 with HTC messaging:
http://www.4shared.com/file/CRF3NcXL...V20_S2356.html
Thats awfully confusing for a first timer like myself. lol
And your link is broken... xD\
EDIT:
I did some searching and found some threads where peoples custom roms are BASE 2.13. Can i just flash those roms on my current version if i don't downgrade to 2.10? Cause if theres custom roms that works with my current version then im more than ok using those.
since im here, im a little confused with why some custom roms say, 6.5.5 or 6.5.X. Does that mean i need windows mobile 6.5.5 to use those roms or does it mean something else?
AND
Ive seen some custom roms that have a number like 23475 (for example), is that the OS build needed to run the rom or the Custom rom's build?
My current build is: 5.2.21892 (21892.5.0.89)
Thank you everyone for your help!
Lahnas said:
I did some searching and found some threads where peoples custom roms are BASE 2.13. Can i just flash those roms on my current version if i don't downgrade to 2.10? Cause if theres custom roms that works with my current version then im more than ok using those.
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no, you always need hspl for custom roms.
since im here, im a little confused with why some custom roms say, 6.5.5 or 6.5.X. Does that mean i need windows mobile 6.5.5 to use those roms or does it mean something else?
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that's the winmoversion used in the rom. 6.5.3 and 6.5.5 are updates to the current released winmo, 6.5
i think 6.5.3 is just about being shipped but .5 isn't official yet.
the big difference is the start button on the bottom of screen and slightly more finger friendly menus.
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Ive seen some custom roms that have a number like 23475 (for example), is that the OS build needed to run the rom or the Custom rom's build?
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that's the windows build used in the rom. 21xxx is 6.5 and i think 23xxx is 6.5.3, but there are more than three builds.
Almost the similar issue
I had a stock tmobile hd2. I never did any customizations to the phone or any kind of hard spl. Today I installed the tmobile official update that set my SPL to 2.10 making it incompatible with the hardspl tool.
I want to just flash a stock rom through the sd card, and revert the spl back to 2.08 so it can be compatible with the hardspl tool and then I can install the energyROM.
I downloaded the 2.01 stock rom from the rom thread in the leo forum, and right before I was going to rename the file and flash the SD card I read a post above saying that if I revert this back to a stock SPL version, and then try to run hardSPL, I will brick my phone. Is that true??
Suggestions??
mattjirmanos said:
Almost the similar issue
I had a stock tmobile hd2. I never did any customizations to the phone or any kind of hard spl. Today I installed the tmobile official update that set my SPL to 2.10 making it incompatible with the hardspl tool.
I want to just flash a stock rom through the sd card, and revert the spl back to 2.08 so it can be compatible with the hardspl tool and then I can install the energyROM.
I downloaded the 2.01 stock rom from the rom thread in the leo forum, and right before I was going to rename the file and flash the SD card I read a post above saying that if I revert this back to a stock SPL version, and then try to run hardSPL, I will brick my phone. Is that true??
Suggestions??
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flash 2.10.0 from sd card to reset spl to 2.08
You don't need to flash 2.10.0 from sd card to reset from 2.10 SPL to 2.08 SPL. You can flash 2.10.0 over activesync (using the .exe linked to in xmoo's thread) and the SPL will be reverted to the 2.08 version.
Thank you to everyone who posted and a special thank you to samsamuel for clearing things up. Maybe this thread will come in handy for people wondering the same thing.
Gonna move you over to General, also closing since issue has been resolved..
Peace,
Joshua

Restoring to stock

Quick one:
I've got the WWE HD2, sending it to HTC repair tomorrow so I need to flash it back to all stock firmware. What exactly do I need to do ? I'm asking cause I've heard of some bricked devices cause by restoring to stock the wrong way and wanted to be sure.
Do I need to flash back first the SPL from HSPL or the ROM to 1.66 I've had ?
flash 1.66 rom, then run hspl2 and choose 1.66.0000.
Where can I find one to download ? the ROM that is
leo official roms thread in rom development section (it will be on page 1,2 or 3, or use the stickies sticky at the top of the list), first post, first link, 1,66 folder.
Ok cool, but which one should I get ? what are the differences ?
just pick a stock rom that has been released in your region. Take the .nbh, rename it to LEOIMG.nbh and drop it on the root of your storage card.
Put the phone into bootloader, and it will flash the stock ROM and relock the phone, all in one step.
I've downloaded the most popular ROM there and executed it, I didn't move any files to my SD. So now I've got the stock ROM loading but the it's not with the original SPL yet right ? I need to flash that back too ?
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I've got the stock ROM loading but the it's not with the original SPL yet right ? I need to flash that back too ?
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samsamuel said:
flash 1.66 rom, then run hspl2 and choose 1.66.0000.
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thats what the red bit is for
Sorry I'm such a noob but the disclaimer says :
5) Uninstallation
Only way to remove the HSPL is to flash an original SPL from SD card.
- Take any "RUU_signed.nbh" from a ship ROM and copy it to SD card.
- Rename it to "leoimg.nbh"
- Reset the device while pressing the volume down button.
So I need to put this file on my device first and then use the HSPL2 utility ?
no..thats only for HSPL.
hspl2 can install SPL's as well.
so, you've got your stock rom and only need your stock spl...
do, what samsamuel says!
DN41
Thank you, just wanted to be sure I didn't brick anything.

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