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I currently have a htc evo, but im thinking of getting a epic.. I just can't have a phone for 2 long..lol.. I had it since launch date.. Now I would like some info on how the dev support is over here such as the best roms and kernels and is it easy to root.. Could you please share your experience with the epic (roms/kernels) and pros and cons would be great.. Thanks..
By the way the gpu on the epic is what is really making me want to switch
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jayv1717 said:
I currently have a htc evo, but im thinking of getting a epic.. I just can't have a phone for 2 long..lol.. I had it since launch date.. Now I would like some info on how the dev support is over here such as the best roms and kernels and is it easy to root.. Could you please share your experience with the epic (roms/kernels) and pros and cons would be great.. Thanks..
By the way the gpu on the epic is what is really making me want to switch
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Rooting is extremely easy..I mean you can even use z4root app if you want to..otherwise we got 1 click root + clockwork..
As for development...its ok, no where as big as the EVO, but EVO has been out longer and people are more familiar with HTC..overall though its getting there..Cyanogen mod is in the works and some night builds are out..
We have a few roms to choose from, as for kernels..right now most of our custom kernels are for Eclair only..as we are waiting for them to release Froyo and with it comes source code (unlike HTC, Samsung releases source within a day or so)...
There are a few developments going on for building the kernel from scratch as well...
I think cyanogan team is working on making a universal kernal for all sgs devices so that we can use the other sgs stuff..(at least thats what I heard I might be mistaken)
Also we have a tool called Odin...which effectively makes our phones "almost" unbrickable...as its a tool used by Samsung themselves to flash roms..
Dev support is great. We should be getting cm6 rather soon as there are really just a few things left to fix and that will of course be the best rom. People running nightlies have been saying they're getting like 1400+ scores in quadrant so it'll be lightning fast.
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wait I forgot the epic isn't on froyo yet, but 1400+ on 2.1 is just crazy.. What setup are you guys using?
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That was just one report of someone running a nightly of cm6. I mean the raw power is there but we'll have to see.
Also I believe cm is being developed on dk28 which is a leaked froyo build
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I just put cm6 on my phone and got a 1693 in quadrant so ya. Cm6 is fast.
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I would be hesitant to move to the epic for the simple reason that samsung can't seem to get a timely update out and this limits what the developers can accomplish. At this point I wonder if samsung will release android 2.3 for the epic. With out an official release and the source code that goes with it, it is unlikely that we will see custom kernels for it.
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Hello my fellow HTC Desire HD users and developers.
My name is StJohn, I'm from South Africa.
I'm very dissapointed to see that we have been left behind in the ICS race.
Nexus one users are seeing progress with ICS, along with the desire users, and a couple others. The desire users already have a flashable ZIP...
So heres the big question:
Where is our ICS progress? Is there no developers working on one for us?
The Desire HD hardware is ahead of the desire, so thats not an excuse. And I
know theres no source code yet, but developers are making progress with the SDK just to give users a taste of ICS at least. I just want to see the same progress for the Desire HD users. Wheres our ICS?
Hi
Developers here tend to wait for the official release before doing anything like that. It saves a ton of hassle because theres less that will go wrong and less complaints and things.
If cyanogen team isn't ready to make it, then I'm not ready to use it
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If cyanogen team isn't ready to make it, then I'm not ready to use it
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Yep, Cyanogen is the most stock like custom ROM I know of, and if they can't make it yet, it must not be fit for general use.
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Yep, Cyanogen is the most stock like custom ROM I know of, and if they can't make it yet, it must not be fit for general use.
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While I agree with the point. CM mod is not really all that close to stock anymore. It has its own framework and built in mods. Nothing wring with it as I use a CM bases rom from time to time.
But I do agree with the fact they are wanting to wait for the source. The sdk is not enough to build anything worth releasing right now. Mainly with huge population of new to Modding people on XDA now. A couple of years ago I would have been all over the sdk as well and tossed something out there knowing that the people using it would be able to help with the loads of issues that it Will have for sure. Can't do that now. To many people blindly flashing with know real idea of what is going on and don't know how to give proper feedback and bug reports. Now I know this is just due to people being new and we were all new at once but now there are more people coming from an iPhone or this is there first smartphone and can't really release what we used to.
Considering that the Galaxy Nexus hasn't even been released yet, saying that DHD users have been left behind is totally ridiculous.
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Considering that the Galaxy Nexus hasn't even been released yet, saying that DHD users have been left behind is totally ridiculous.
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good point, I believe the OP would need to contact CM's client service to complain
This should ease your concerns, https://plus.google.com/105502178297258827378/posts/PxQ6cVjVdUd
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Considering that the Galaxy Nexus hasn't even been released yet, saying that DHD users have been left behind is totally ridiculous.
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+1
Remember assumptions are the mother of all F**K Ups
They have been trying. They have it booting but the touchscreen does not work so nothing can be done.
To be fair,its all different hardware niggles, the end of the day..you could have a dev release a rom...that has a hundred bugs and is generally ****. Gingerbread came out,which was good you could test it but really pissed you off in a way that there was no way to use it daily unless you fancied losing wifi or no bluetooth.
Patience is the key.Why are there so many threads about this **** lol its every time, i do also want to post numerous threads regarding this but patience. How has the hd been left behind anyway, we have had every release so far besides ice cream
i'm almost sure DHD won't get ICS... technicaly DHD could get an 2.3.4 or 2.3.5 official OTA anytime but HTC waits until ICS will hit Sensations. Just about one month before that, DHD will get 2.3.5 as final official update...
It was the same with Hero last year... when htc rolled 2.1 on HERO just before the 2.2 launch on the newer devices. It's all marketing and I'm sure the carriers are the key players... especially the ones in US. They are making the rules and the 2 years product rollout cycle.
I'm also pretty sure that HTC "supports" the "rooting and custom roms development"... as some kind of justice for the HTC hard core consumers...
One way or another ICS will come to the dhd... If its not official it will be a port or cyanogen.
But atm i'm really happy with the 2.3.5 runny rom^^ Lets just be a little patient!
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If cyanogen team isn't ready to make it, then I'm not ready to use it
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What he said.
cristeamax said:
i'm almost sure DHD won't get ICS...
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harrehk said:
This should ease your concerns, https://plus.google.com/105502178297258827378/posts/PxQ6cVjVdUd
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It's a two page thread. Come on.
The Sensation is getting ICS so I'm very sure the DHD will get it.
If you don't think so have more faith in devs on xda.
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in that 2 page thread it says
"New devices,i.e,Released after May 2011 will receive the updates prior to the old phones like Desire HD"
What that means? no ICS TO DHD? ?
did not understadn fully that thing there please explain?
All I want, and so many other people, is a taste of ICS, Just a test drive, I'm not asking for daily use, and the expression "left out" is referring to the SDK roms coming out, not the official source code or official release of ICS.
Just want to see some progress to a flashable ICS port, and now I am seeing that over at the development forum so this is good.
This may a ridiculous question (sorry in advance) but would any port of ICS still have the SRS settings for the music player?
Pruikki said:
in that 2 page thread it says
"New devices,i.e,Released after May 2011 will receive the updates prior to the old phones like Desire HD"
What that means? no ICS TO DHD? ?
did not understadn fully that thing there please explain?
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It means the newer phones will get it first.
Would like to see if anyone has a good working port for ics
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As soon as someone has a working port of ICS, I'd imagine it would be the busiest thread in the development sub-forum. So keep an eye out there.
-Nipqer
Settle down. Source code isn't even out yet. And that will probably be November 17 at the earliest since that is the release date of the European Galaxy Nexus. Traditionally, code had been released a couple weeks after a nexus phone. Expect early December.
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Love the write-up posted here...
http://www.willowtreeapps.com/blog/...s-on-ice-cream-sandwich-and-the-galaxy-nexus/
Thank you just excited for the rom
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Of how much I want to see ICS on my beloved G2.. it seems the only way we'll see ICS on the G2 is through the great devs working on a port, because unfortunately according to PC World HERE HTC has the list of phones that will be getting ICS starting next year, and the G2 is no where in the line-up on getting it.
Oh well.. I was thinking about upgrading my phone to a Galaxy Nexus (32gb version).
lawalty said:
Of how much I want to see ICS on my beloved G2.. it seems the only way we'll see ICS on the G2 is through the great devs working on a port, because unfortunately according to PC World HERE HTC has the list of phones that will be getting ICS starting next year, and the G2 is no where in the line-up on getting it.
Oh well.. I was thinking about upgrading my phone to a Galaxy Nexus (32gb version).
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Why would you care if HTC is going to build 4.0 for your phone? HTC builds **SUCK**. They are polluted with a whole bunch of garbage the *looks* like AOSP, but actually is NOT. The HTC VISION is hacked more thoroughly than any other android phone available. It will NOT be a big deal to build a proper AOSP for it.
Just wait for cm 9 and its variants. The nightlies even now are getting closer to ics.
I love a new release as much as the next guy, but I kinda wish the buzz was over. I can't stop trying to give my phone an ice cream feel. And it probably only does a couple things dif. than gingerbread.
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lawalty said:
Of how much I want to see ICS on my beloved G2.. it seems the only way we'll see ICS on the G2 is through the great devs working on a port, because unfortunately according to PC World HERE HTC has the list of phones that will be getting ICS starting next year, and the G2 is no where in the line-up on getting it.
Oh well.. I was thinking about upgrading my phone to a Galaxy Nexus (32gb version).
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Well did you honestly expect HTC to upgrade our phone to ICS officially? lol...
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Why would you care if HTC is going to build 4.0 for your phone? HTC builds **SUCK**. They are polluted with a whole bunch of garbage the *looks* like AOSP, but actually is NOT. The HTC VISION is hacked more thoroughly than any other android phone available. It will NOT be a big deal to build a proper AOSP for it.
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Precisely.
lawalty said:
Of how much I want to see ICS on my beloved G2.. it seems the only way we'll see ICS on the G2 is through the great devs working on a port, because unfortunately according to PC World HERE HTC has the list of phones that will be getting ICS starting next year, and the G2 is no where in the line-up on getting it.
Oh well.. I was thinking about upgrading my phone to a Galaxy Nexus (32gb version).
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I find it funny that many news sites either don't mention it, or repeating it wrong.
HTC was speaking of a first wave.
There is a second wave of phones that will get ICS.
Second wave of phones are not announced until now.
Incredible S, Desire S, Desire HD and Desire Z have very good chances to be on this second list.
Can somebody explain why ICS is so much better than what I have right now? Just wondering?....
Gpu acceleration is the main reason I want it...
http://blog.htc.com/2012/03/ics/
I woke up in the morning with this news. I have to say that I was very disappointed. Even though I anticipated that HTC won't release an official ICS update for the Desire Z, this news still took a toll on me :-(
now all we can hope for is a better port from the devs (there're already good ICS ROMs for the Desire Z, the Icecream JIBwich ROM I am using is already much better than stock GB, but I do want to have a better camera driver)
well, for anyone who still hopes, at the very least, HTC haven't said that they won't upgrade the Desire Z, and there's still this petition
http://www.change.org/petitions/htc-release-an-android-4-0-update-for-the-htc-desire-z
Another thread about a petition?
no, I about the official upgrade list. In my opinion, the petition is one of the reasons HTC should NOT upgrade the Desire Z, if you look at the petition count.....
Desire hd is getting it so we are fine.
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no, I about the official upgrade list. In my opinion, the petition is one of the reasons HTC should NOT upgrade the Desire Z, if you look at the petition count.....
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Then i misunderstood it. But to get back at a quote you say in your op. HTC never said that the DZ wont be getting the upgrade, there is always a chance of getting it. Unless you got source on that.
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!!IMPORTANT!!
A fellow dutch user pointed me to this link, if you guys all could be so friendly to sign that petition and than maybe we will get us a official version of ICS for our Desire Z!
So please go to the link guys, you're doing us all a favor! I want to see the counter at atleast 1000 tomorrow morning (Amsterdam time)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1493365
guys please sign here
jijus said:
!!IMPORTANT!!
A fellow dutch user pointed me to this link, if you guys all could be so friendly to sign that petition and than maybe we will get us a official version of ICS for our Desire Z!
So please go to the link guys, you're doing us all a favor! I want to see the counter at atleast 1000 tomorrow morning (Amsterdam time)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1493365
guys please sign here
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Dude that link is already in this thread and plenty others
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just signed it. come on people there should be more of us?? shouldn't there???
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http://blog.htc.com/2012/03/ics/
I woke up in the morning with this news. I have to say that I was very disappointed. Even though I anticipated that HTC won't release an official ICS update for the Desire Z, this news still took a toll on me :-(
now all we can hope for is a better port from the devs (there're already good ICS ROMs for the Desire Z, the Icecream JIBwich ROM I am using is already much better than stock GB, but I do want to have a better camera driver)
well, for anyone who still hopes, at the very least, HTC haven't said that they won't upgrade the Desire Z, and there's still this petition
http://www.change.org/petitions/htc-release-an-android-4-0-update-for-the-htc-desire-z
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Thats the same list from months ago nothing changed, HTC said this is the 'first' list of devices rolling out there will Be ANOTHER!
KyraOfFire said:
http://blog.htc.com/2012/03/ics/
I woke up in the morning with this news. I have to say that I was very disappointed. Even though I anticipated that HTC won't release an official ICS update for the Desire Z, this news still took a toll on me :-(
now all we can hope for is a better port from the devs (there're already good ICS ROMs for the Desire Z, the Icecream JIBwich ROM I am using is already much better than stock GB, but I do want to have a better camera driver)
well, for anyone who still hopes, at the very least, HTC haven't said that they won't upgrade the Desire Z, and there's still this petition
http://www.change.org/petitions/htc-release-an-android-4-0-update-for-the-htc-desire-z
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Dude calm down! it's just the first wave. I'm pretty sure HTC going to update our device later on. if not we still have CM9, Virtuous.. ect.
I think we will get it in the second wave imo
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I think the second wave has already been announced. It included the Desire HD and the Desire S. I might be wrong though.
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I think the second wave has already been announced. It included the Desire HD and the Desire S. I might be wrong though.
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Those devices are in the first wave, no second wave has been announced.
I hope we get an update soon.
Most of my friend with different HTC models get the update. I have the desire z and i got nothing up to now, except 2.3.3 last year.
Remember, HTC has never said that they've finalized the list of devices to be upgraded. We still might get it, we may not. Besides, enough phones will be upgraded to give us a 100% working ICS rom anyway from CyanogenMod and others.
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charisk123 said:
Most of my friend with different HTC models get the update. I have the desire z and i got nothing up to now, except 2.3.3 last year.
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Yeah, well, our phones are pretty old, two years now. Most companies rather just spend their money pushing their new line of phones instead. I use the Andromadus ROM and it works very well, running ICS 4.0.3
From the CyanogenMod Q&A
Q: [Device with less than 512mb RAM shipped] gets CyanogenMod 9?
A: No
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From the CyanogenMod Q&A
Q: [Device with less than 512mb RAM shipped] gets CyanogenMod 9?
A: No
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You don't need to use CyanogenMod 9 to have ICS. And HTC Vision is listed with 512MB RAM anyways.
I am about to give up on cm9 and go backwards. I want a 1.6 super d rom from my g1 on my g2. Hell I might go back to eclair if I could, just to flash something different. ...
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It is possible to port old roms but really... maybe I'm in the minority but there are so many roms to choose from on the g2 why are so many people hung up on needing a solid ics build. I get it the latest is the greatest but what more are you really going to get out of it? Plenty of amazing aosp, cyanogen based and sense roms out here that work amazing, how can anyone be so unsatisfied to want to go back to a donut rom?
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I've owned my G2 since it's been out, and I have to say that I'm starting to get bored with it. I have it rooted and I've flashed just about every ROM that's been released for it. Sadly, all the recent ROM development is for ICS, and most of those are in alpha/beta stages. I need something new, fresh and is close to 100% bug-free as possible. I've played with most of the Sense based ROMs, MIUI, and CM7 creations, but my primary DD has been CM7.1 Stable.
Just thought I'd share my thoughts here, see if I'm not alone in this, and what others have done to get out of this rut.
What phone are you thinking of switching to?
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What phone are you thinking of switching to?
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My contract won't expire for about a year, and I'll more than likely be leaving TMO as their service is horrible in my new place. That's an issue that really isn't tolerable at all, but my boredom comes from the decline in ROM development for this kick ass phone. Sure, it's an older phone, but it's still a great phone that other phones can't compete with. Also, I tried ICS and I honestly wasn't all that impressed with it. I still enjoyed running Froyo and love Gingerbread, and wish I had the skills/talent to develop updated/enhanced flavors of Sense/AOSP/MIUI based ROMs. There's many to choose out there, but as I said so many of them are in alpha/beta stages with the prevalent "camera not working" bug.
The purpose of this thread was more so to see what ROMs people were using as their DDs, but based on your question I'd be interested to hear what G2 owners have upgraded their phones to as well. I love my G2 and will be sad to part ways with it when that day comes.
I Recomand HTC one x It's the best phone I've ever .
stian230 said:
I Recomand HTC one x It's the best phone I've ever .
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That's only available for AT&T, correct? Which HTC One phone is coming out for TMO?
dustrho said:
That's only available for AT&T, correct? Which HTC One phone is coming out for TMO?
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Google was my friend, and the S is coming out for TMO and X for AT&T.
I'm getting equally bored. My contract isn't up till next jan but I'm thinking of trading in for an asus padfone. This will also replace my asus transformer. I enjoy the keyboard on the DZ but I just feel there is a drop in gingerbread development and ICS is in need of proper drivers. Maybe things will change when the DHD get official update.
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dustrho said:
Google was my friend, and the S is coming out for TMO and X for AT&T.
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Unconfirmed rumors indicate the X may be coming to T-Mobile (in addition to the S), and also coming to Sprint as the "EVO One" of "EVO HD".
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I Recomand HTC one x It's the best phone I've ever .
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The fact that the HTC One S has no micro sd card slot is a def deal breaker for me. I've been using miui as my daily driver. I would love to see a smooth ics miui rom released
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I've been using miui as my daily driver. I would love to see a smooth ics miui rom released
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Regardless of speed, miuiv4 doesn't have the same feel for me as gingerbread based. It just lacks the user friendly experience.
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I've been using gb miui for nearly the time I've had this phone (about 6 months). I've played with the HTC one x and galaxy note and without custom roms I don't think they are any smoother in general interface than what I have (overclock to 1.5 helps). However you are right, I've also tried nearly every rom out there and after a few hours or days running an ics rom I always come back to miui because it's bug free and fast.
Development has slowed lately, probably because they've run out of things to improve, but there are a few ics development teams improving their roms on a weekly basis so in a couple of months I'd hope for a near perfect ics version.
Saying that I'll be getting a galaxy note in a few days because I still want something new and different.
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G2 is life
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I am also extremely interested in finding out which the roms the community is using as their daily rom. Like OP I have flashed most of the roms and now am just looking for the most stable rom.
ILWT all the way!
I first flashed it in February and have come back to it every time I've flashed another ROM. That's more that can be said of any other ROM I've had.
Supersmooth performance, stable and everything works.
In regards to the phone itself; this is the first phone I've ever had where I'm actually reluctant to get another because I don't want to let it go. I bought my DZ about 14 months ago. I'm not bound to any contract so that is not why I keep it around. I'm guessing it must be true love
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I am also extremely interested in finding out which the roms the community is using as their daily rom. Like OP I have flashed most of the roms and now am just looking for the most stable rom.
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I've tried them all, literally, and I keep coming back to CM 7.1.0 Stable with it OC'd at 1200 MHz. I don't believe I've ever experienced an issue, except for the fact that TMO coverage in my area sucks ass.
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I am also extremely interested in finding out which the roms the community is using as their daily rom. Like OP I have flashed most of the roms and now am just looking for the most stable rom.
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Rocking ILWT. It's one of the best CM7 ROM's around, and my personal favourite. I also find myself coming back to it. =]
I just flashed ILWT and I'm impressed with it, although it's not very different than CM7. I do like the Aroma installer, very nice touch.
G lite all the way baby
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I am using Andromadus Audacity b2 as daily driver and it is very smooth after i understood that I should use 4ext superwipe not 3ext...