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Best overclock kernel?

I'm still more or less a noob to the whole android customization, even though I tried out a lot of different roms on my saphire (MT3G). I recently upgraded to th MyTouch 4G, and immediately found a root method to install a custom rom. I tried several different roms for this device as well over the, last few weeks, and found that the ICE GLACIER 1.1.6 runs the most stable, and closest to the original. So my question is this: I have also been looking into overclock kernels as of late only to find that all the ones I try with my rom are either incompatible or cause frequent freezes, crashes, or restarts. Is there a kernel out here I have missed that will run smoothly with my rom? I have already looked trough some of the forums here and tried both versions of the faux kernel, and all the rest I have seen that aren't CM specific. Anyone can point me in the right direction would be greatly appreciated.
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Gorilla's OC kernel that TeamSilence put in Ice-Glacier is a very strong and stable OC kernel. if I remember correctly that kernel will go up to 1708 or 1709 if you have SetCPU.

I am using set cpu, but even the kernel that comes with the rom freezes my phone up, or causes force closes and restarts out of the blue.
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powduh09 said:
I am using set cpu, but even the kernel that comes with the rom freezes my phone up, or causes force closes and restarts out of the blue.
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If you're OCing to 1.7GHz, that may not be the kernel's fault. Every CPU is different, some can't overclock as high as others. Here's a nifty thread on the subject.

Very true, just like the MT3G-Slide mine could go well into the 900's before it would lockup but my wife's can only hit 844 any higher and it locks

jdkoren said:
If you're OCing to 1.7GHz, that may not be the kernel's fault. Every CPU is different, some can't overclock as high as others. Here's a nifty thread on the subject.
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Thanks for the info. I love my MT4G as is, so overclocking isn't really a big issue, after reading this article, I am begining to wander if it is even a good idea. I was only curious to find out the problem because I never had such troubles overclocking my saphire (MT3G)
Edit: have reduced settings to 1497600mhz. Going to play around a little bit and see what my best settings are. As of now, this settings have outlasted all others. Thanks to those who responded. And HAIL to the devs who spend their time creating all these roms, so noobs like myself can easily make their devices unique!¡!¡!¡!¡!
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Try Faux's kernel with smartass gov. Set at default to 1.1ghz. He makes great kernels and is very active updating and making them better.
I've been flashing his kernels like crazy. As the famous tiger says......there grrrrrreat!
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Vinsane said:
Try Faux's kernel with smartass gov. Set at default to 1.1ghz. He makes great kernels and is very active updating and making them better.
I've been flashing his kernels like crazy. As the famous tiger says......there grrrrrreat!
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Does the kernel affect battery life given the same clock speed? What I mean is if I am using CM7 RC1 with whatever Kernel it came with... and I change to the Faux kernel and keep the same clock speed will I see diff. battery life?
Are there any kernels that are tuned for better battery life?
Thanks,
RA

Vinsane said:
Try Faux's kernel with smartass gov. Set at default to 1.1ghz. He makes great kernels and is very active updating and making them better.
I've been flashing his kernels like crazy. As the famous tiger says......there grrrrrreat!
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I'm running on the kernel that came with Ice Glacier now, thanks to a hard crash around midnight last night. I've been set at 1497mhz since I restored. No freezes, acceptable battery temps, and blazing response time. Now I only wander if one of the kernels allow a little better fine tuning, because if I try to change this one it only has two more setting, one in the 1600s and then max, both of which cause my phone to go crazy...
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radamo said:
Are there any kernels that are tuned for better battery life?
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I don't know for certain, but I would think it matters more if the kernel is undervolted or not. Assuming the same usage patterns and CPU clock settings/profiles, the kernel that utilizes less voltage would preserve more battery, would it not? (Anyone with experience on the subject wanna chime in?)

jdkoren said:
If you're OCing to 1.7GHz, that may not be the kernel's fault. Every CPU is different, some can't overclock as high as others. Here's a nifty thread on the subject.
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I would like to say thanks for your help on this, been set to 1497mhz for almost 24hrs now with no force closes freezes or out of the blue restarts
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Categorically Worthless vs. Overstock

Is there a difference between these two kernels? They both have the same features. Opinion?

Press search. This thread was created about 3 days ago.
Readers digest, both are amazing, seemed like most were on OS.

roguly said:
Is there a difference between these two kernels? They both have the same features. Opinion?
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They perform exactly the same in my opinion

Roughly the same feature set, but categorically worthless kernel seems a bit more stable for me. Theres a more aggressive ram hack in ovedstock, possibly leading to the higher benchmarks. All I want is stability, stock frequency, and voodoo sound. Both are great kernels though, and come highly recommended. In the end you wont see much difference.
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s15274n said:
Press search. This thread was created about 3 days ago.
Readers digest, both are amazing, seemed like most were on OS.
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Sorry, I wasn't like specifically looking for an answer so that's why I didn't search for this question. I was just looking at the kernels and realized they were both the same so I made this thread.
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roguly said:
Sorry, I wasn't like specifically looking for an answer so that's why I didn't search for this question. I was just looking at the kernels and realized they were both the same so I made this thread.
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Don't be sorry, be yourself. With that said, they are not the same. I started with CW and ran quadrants of low to mid 1400's. Battery life decent, phone was snappy but not jaw-dropping. I moved to OS, and quadrant scores jumped to mid to high 1600's. Snappy would be a mild understatement for how the phone responded then. Battery life seemed better, but it could also have been a difference in usage. This was all with stock 2.2 ROM, mind you.
Now... I run Trigger with OverStock, quadrants are consistently mid 1800's, battery life is great, and snappy would be an insult because of how fast this thing screams!
Also, I haven't had even a sniff of instability with either kernel.
OS doesn't blow CW away, but it is faster, and compliments Trigger ROM beautifully, so in my over-confident opinion, it is the better of the 2 kernels.
Sent from my rough sketch of a Vibrant on a brick I like to pretend is running Trigger 2.7 on OverStock 1.3...

Droidificator said:
Don't be sorry, be yourself. With that said, they are not the same. I started with CW and ran quadrants of low to mid 1400's. Battery life decent, phone was snappy but not jaw-dropping. I moved to OS, and quadrant scores jumped to mid to high 1600's. Snappy would be a mild understatement for how the phone responded then. Battery life seemed better, but it could also have been a difference in usage. This was all with stock 2.2 ROM, mind you.
Now... I run Trigger with OverStock, quadrants are consistently mid 1800's, battery life is great, and snappy would be an insult because of how fast this thing screams!
Also, I haven't had even a sniff of instability with either kernel.
OS doesn't blow CW away, but it is faster, and compliments Trigger ROM beautifully, so in my over-confident opinion, it is the better of the 2 kernels.
Sent from my rough sketch of a Vibrant on a brick I like to pretend is running Trigger 2.7 on OverStock 1.3...
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OverStock 1.3 and Trigger 2.7 is an awesome combo! Much better than anything I've ran so far!

BriDroid-74 said:
OverStock 1.3 and Trigger 2.7 is an awesome combo! Much better than anything I've ran so far!
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An even better combo is darky's rom with OS . Nuclear reactor
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dany865 said:
An even better combo is darky's rom with OS . Nuclear reactor
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I'm going to have to try that, but if I end up with a bricked brick, I'ma throw it at you!
In all seriousness though, I don't see myself using any other kernel until GB gets optimized and stabilized. OverStock just works.
Sent from my rough sketch of a Vibrant on a brick I like to pretend is running Trigger 2.7 on OverStock 1.3...

[OC] Tegrak Overclock v0.2.0.1

Hi Captivators!
Let me introduce a tool that helps to improve performance of your phone!
NEED ROOT!
Overclock can be harm to your hardware.
Use at your own risk.
I made a overclocking application for Samsung GalaxyS family.
It's designed to make overclock very easy on stock kernel and custom kernels (almost, not CM7, it has its own way)
Only needs to click 3 times to do it.
I know here is not app category, but based on kernel module.
so I chose "Development" category.
If I'm wrong, please move my thread to correct position.
Working perfectly on GalaxyS Froyo. already proved by many people.
I'm waiting Gingerbread for my phone (SHW-M110S).
App will support Gingerbread after I got it. Hey Samsung, give it to me!!!!
My wish is that all of GalaxyS users install this application on their phone... over 10 million..
But I know. It's just a dream.
Features
*Set cpu max frequency 1.0 to 1.3 GHz
*Show ARM core voltage at max frequency.
*Show frequency and voltage on each CPU perf levels.
*Show your device information
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*Epic 4G (SPH-D700, Froyo 2.2 / 2.2.1)
*Fascinate (SCH-I500, Froyo 2.2 / 2.2.1)
*Fascinate, Telus (SGH-T959D, Froyo 2.2 / 2.2.1)
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*Vibrant (SGH-T959, Froyo 2.2 / 2.2.1 )
*Vibrant Plus (SGH-T959V, Froyo 2.2 / 2.2.1)
The maximum frequency that I found on my phone,
1.15 GHz, 1.25 V (stock voltage)
I experienced faster web surfing, more quadrant score, better Linpack result and more..
Hey, who don't want to make phone faster?
You can find a free version app in Android Market.
If you like it you can also buy ultimate version to help me (think as a donation ver)
UV(under voltage) and OV(over voltage) controls are only available at Ultimate version.
Sorry for that but I believe Free version is quite enough for most of you!
@1.43 Ghz, 1.375V + ext4 = quadrant score 2250, and fried my hands
Enjoy your enhanced phone with my application!
Any questions or opinions? found bugs?
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isnt tegrak only for tegra based devices?

smackdownn said:
isnt tegrak only for tegra based devices?
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It is just my kinckname. no relation to Tegra core... Haha
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but we already have voltage control for free and it does OC and UV....

xredjokerx said:
but we already have voltage control for free and it does OC and UV....
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Oh is that true? can you show me a link about it? thanks. I did not know that. shameful. . :<
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tegrak said:
Oh is that true? can you show me a link about it? thanks. I did not know that. shameful. . :<
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=829731
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1030994
but i guess this is different since u can use it on a stock kernel?
mm i dont know how many people are still running stock however.

xredjokerx said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=829731
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1030994
but i guess this is different since u can use it on a stock kernel?
mm i dont know how many people are still running stock however.
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I have just read all threads that you told me. Yeah you are right at last comment. My app does not need custom kernel. In addition
no reboot, can change at runtime.
This is a big differrence from another apps.
Thanks for links anyway!
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yes this app loads a kernel module much like voodoo control plus does. it adds overclock to any kernel instantly. unfortunately for the developer most of us have a favorite overclock kernel. but this will work for adding overclock to kb1 non overclock kernels that some members prefer to use for call quality reasons, and for people that love the stability of speedmod but want to experiment with faster clock speeds

Dani897 said:
yes this app loads a kernel module much like voodoo control plus does. it adds overclock to any kernel instantly. unfortunately for the developer most of us have a favorite overclock kernel. but this will work for adding overclock to kb1 non overclock kernels that some members prefer to use for call quality reasons, and for people that love the stability of speedmod but want to experiment with faster clock speeds
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onix is speedmod with OC/UV
EDIT: im just curious, ive traditionally undervolted my phone to increase battery life, what would be the purpose of increasing the voltage, seems as though it would be counter productive?

Well this is interesting. A good app for anyone who remains on stock and dosent want to load a custom rom but would like a little extra horsepower. The small percentage that people here make up may or may not use it, but to the rest of the world that is on stock, this could be really nice for them.

ballz0iron said:
onix is speedmod with OC/UV
EDIT: im just curious, ive traditionally undervolted my phone to increase battery life, what would be the purpose of increasing the voltage, seems as though it would be counter productive?
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To AdamNimrod,Dany897
that is what I want to say. Thanks much.
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ballz0iron said:
onix is speedmod with OC/UV
EDIT: im just curious, ive traditionally undervolted my phone to increase battery life, what would be the purpose of increasing the voltage, seems as though it would be counter productive?
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that is a gross over simplification. i believe onix has a lower kernel hz for battery life and additional patches though i never cared to keep track of specifically what features each kernel has.
also the ulk menu on speedmod actually works on all the options including jfs unlike onix

maybe you will have better luck in the epic and fascinate sections where there is no froyo source code so they have to choose between 2.1 overclocked and 2.2

Any chance to get this on 2.3.3?

Hey Dani, Thanks for advise.
.:Crack:. - I don't have Gingerbread rom for my device. I'm waiting for it..

tegrak said:
Hey Dani, Thanks for advise.
.:Crack:. - I don't have Gingerbread rom for my device. I'm waiting for it..
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+1 for you being from south Korea . I hope to visit there next summer :]

yea but what are the values for 1.2ghz?
how long the battery hold with such speed?
Vsel?

ballz0iron said:
onix is speedmod with OC/UV
EDIT: im just curious, ive traditionally undervolted my phone to increase battery life, what would be the purpose of increasing the voltage, seems as though it would be counter productive?
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Decreasing voltage increases battery life (obviously less juice = lasts longer) but also makes your phone less stable. The inverse holds true to a point. For every phone at every cpu speed, there is a range of voltages where your processor doesn't lock up and die instantaneously. Too much voltage makes it die, too little makes it shut off.
In the range where it works, however, the lower end is better for battery life, but if it's doing something towards the upper end of the freq range, it might still die, but the upper end of the voltage spectrum is pretty much good to go.

cant overclock my cappy at all raise it to 1.2ghz without any voltage change and
it says i need the full version...
whats the point in OC app that you cant use it?

overclocking

I have a droid incredible htc running skyrider rom, i red that i can make an overcloking for increase the speed, i would like to know what i have to do. How to do it. What i need. I search in you tube but i cant find anything for droid incredible. Thanks...

SetCPU is the most common CPU frequency changer.

overclock widget is another alternative
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overclock widget is another alternative
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What is the best setting. I have overclock widget. Thanks.... guys....

so there no kernels to help oc, just use setcpu tor similar apps?
on other phones u need kernels to oc. just curious if this phone i different

The default kernel won't overclock, setcpu can perflock the stock HTC Sense based kernel and allow underclocking for better battery preservation.
You can download chad's incredikernel, lou's kernels or ziggy's for Sense-based kernels that can be overclocked.

I don't know about the widget but on setcpu I have mine set to the highest with performence settings.

wao im confused know,do i need a kernel.thanks...

A lot of kernels have oc capabilities, but you still need SetCPU to tell it what speeds to run at and such. CM7 has this functionality built right into the CM Settings.
It will depend on what ROM you're using, and what kernel you're using.

notwen said:
The default kernel won't overclock, setcpu can perflock the stock HTC Sense based kernel and allow underclocking for better battery preservation.
You can download chad's incredikernel, lou's kernels or ziggy's for Sense-based kernels that can be overclocked.
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will ziggys chad's incredikernel, lou's kernels or ziggy's kernels work for new sense 2.1 or 2.2?

Depending on what version they are. IDK what version the new kernels are but the sense 1 kernels are 2.6.32-17. IMO overclocking an incredible doesnt offer that much of a performance gain, it can only be bumped up by about 150-200mhz as compared to the other devices which can do 300-700mhz.

brando56894 said:
Depending on what version they are. IDK what version the new kernels are but the sense 1 kernels are 2.6.32-17. IMO overclocking an incredible doesnt offer that much of a performance gain, it can only be bumped up by about 150-200mhz as compared to the other devices which can do 300-700mhz.
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no that makes sense, im waiting in the mail for my phone so i dont know what new kernels numbers r, but if there the same they should work

I have a kernel version 2.6.3217-g9a2fc16
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Sofware # skyrider 4.0 sence beta
Android version 2.2

Pithism said:
will ziggys chad's incredikernel, lou's kernels or ziggy's kernels work for new sense 2.1 or 2.2?
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All Froyo-based ROMs should be covered by those three kernel builders. Unfortunately those also are about the only active kernel devs that are supporting Sense-based kernels, the majority are AOSP.

Has anyone thought of tweaking with the voltages on the incredible kernels. I also own a Nook Color and they thought 1.1 was the max for us until dal messed with the voltages and a few other things under the hood. If it gets us gains with running features on newer roms (sense 3.0) it might be worth exploring the possibilities.

dont forget my post please. I need more information, thanks..

Glados vs Matr1x

Hey!
I've tested both kernels already.. i want to know if there is anything that one perform better the other or something like that..
What do you think:

IMO Glados is more stable than matrix ATM also i think matrix is built off glados it has all its features but tweaked by matchkid
matrix reboots regardless of OC and glados im able to OC up 1.4 without increasing voltage without reboots. Once Pete tweaks his kernel with OC and voodoo colors ill be jumping ship. i used his his GB with absolutely no issues
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Too be fair I haven't tested new matrix

I see.. and what abt CFS vc BFS?

And btw on every rom i've tested, when im at lockscreen and press the power button to turn screen off, there is some green flash on any kernel but stock.. anyone has the same? no big deal but just wondering..

guitmz said:
And btw on every rom i've tested, when im at lockscreen and press the power button to turn screen off, there is some green flash on any kernel but stock.. anyone has the same? no big deal but just wondering..
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This problem is related to Voodoo Colors. Stock kernel does not have it.

so with a stock kernel, there isn't the "green flash" problem, right?
currently I use the Matr1x v13 kernel. If I install GLaDOS, I'll have the same problem?

juliano_q said:
This problem is related to Voodoo Colors. Stock kernel does not have it.
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I'm not sure that it's the kernel 100%. On GB when I ran CM7 with a voodoo kernel I had the green/yellow flicker (if the brightness wasn't at 100%). But when I switched to the GWK74 stock rooted OTA with a Voodoo kernel, that flicker was completely gone at any brightness.

pastikk said:
so with a stock kernel, there isn't the "green flash" problem, right?
currently I use the Matr1x v13 kernel. If I install GLaDOS, I'll have the same problem?
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using Matr1x v13 on a 4.0.3 stock rom and have no green flash problem. i9023

ah ta, valeu! nao sabia que era por causa disso a telinha verde...
yeah if u change the kernel the screen remains

i9020A here... with no brightness and with brightness the screen is the same on matr1x and glados

clocker66 said:
using Matr1x v13 on a 4.0.3 stock rom and have no green flash problem. i9023
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?!?!?!?!?
try turning on and off the screen quickly for a couple of times...
Other thing: I'm noticing a problem with the automatic brightness using the rom Neapolis (but I still can not write in that thread because I've not reached 10 posts)

guitmz said:
I see.. and what abt CFS vc BFS?
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I'm using CFS
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juliano_q said:
This problem is related to Voodoo Colors. Stock kernel does not have it.
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i get this on every single ics available for ns4g, even before installing any apps or changing the kernel.

pastikk said:
?!?!?!?!?
try turning on and off the screen quickly for a couple of times...
Other thing: I'm noticing a problem with the automatic brightness using the rom Neapolis (but I still can not write in that thread because I've not reached 10 posts)
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nope, no green flashes at all...
trying now glados 2.3

demo23019 said:
... i think matrix is built off glados it has all its features but tweaked by matchkid
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I prefer GLaDOS to Matr1x but Matr1x is not built off GLaDOS. The other kernel devs have accepted Ezekeel's MODs. That's GPL, open source.

I'm running GLADOS @ the moment. Everything looks good, but I do get the green flicker but I'm sure this is normal on every Kernel w/ Voodoo.
However, when I correct my colors through Voodoo, it's not saving upon reboot. It goes back to the default 2.3.3 crap colors. Any words of advice or anyone sharing similar experiences?

phone_user said:
Matr1x is not built off GLaDOS. The other kernel devs have accepted Ezekeel's MODs. That's GPL, open source.
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yup
i misread something in his thread

l don.tee l said:
I'm running GLADOS @ the moment. Everything looks good, but I do get the green flicker but I'm sure this is normal on every Kernel w/ Voodoo.
However, when I correct my colors through Voodoo, it's not saving upon reboot. It goes back to the default 2.3.3 crap colors. Any words of advice or anyone sharing similar experiences?
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I'm not sure why it doesn't save but have you tried changing your bright ness it bring to dim caused the green flicker for alot if people
If so try different settings in voodoo that will remove it I could pm you my settings if your intrested
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From what I've seen CFS is more stable than BFS.
Most devs request you swap back to CFS if BFS is FC-ing a lot.
Pretty sure it's only more stable because it's more common.
From what I've read CFS has more gradual performance increases while BFS relies on more peaks of performance.
What BFS is:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brain_Fuck_Scheduler

Update
Glados 2.3... quicker than previous builds even though no mention of performance increase
this kernel is noticeably quicker than his other kernel and IMO quicker thann other kernels and smooooth also got rid of the occasional slight lag when accessing launcher
BTW im using cfs