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Whats the best kernel

what is your favorite kernel you are using as of right now

I recommend you stick with stock

jt1134 said:
I recommend you stick with stock
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ROFL. You read other posts before replying too¿

You won't see much improvement from any of the kernels here unless maybe you try a voodoo one. I wouldn't recommend it though because its a pain to go back to stock.
I've tried most of the bin voodoo ones. Stupid fast 1.5 seems to have the best performance but you lose vibration. I'm using Linpack and quadrant to test performance.
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voghan said:
You won't see much improvement from any of the kernels here unless maybe you try a voodoo one. I wouldn't recommend it though because its a pain to go back to stock.
I've tried most of the bin voodoo ones. Stupid fast 1.5 seems to have the best performance but you lose vibration. I'm using Linpack and quadrant to test performance.
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The best way to benchmark is how the phone works for you in your everyday usage.....not quadrant or linpack. By that logic oclf turns your phone into a rocket as you can pull 2700 quadrants

DJ05 stock kernel is second only to the Stupidfast 1.5 series kernels. Try one of those.
If not, try 1.3.2 SF

I tried geenik's and had sound issues when playing music. JT's are pretty good. Dirrk's oc voodoo kernel has been amazing so far... my phone absolutely flies now.
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If you remove the bloated apps from the stock rom you'll get a fast phone. Stock rom with stupid fast 1.5 is the fastest combination I've seen.
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now does stupid fast use voodoo lagfix im a little scared of it cause after my last experience my phone went jet black and there was no fixing it i tried everything i just dont want to end up with a black phone again because of a simple mistake i may have made in loading it...i went from a droid 1 which i was flash happy with this phone just gives me the willys every once in a while and i dont want to jepodize its poor life...should i wipe data cache when i flash a new kernel cause i currently use jts with no lagfix but moving to a new one should i wipe

http://totalnerdity.com/sf/
Theses are non voodoo stupidfast kernels.

stupid fast +1

+1 for stupidfast. Extremely noticeable speed difference.
Take note though that with DI01 you'll lose haptic feedback. And for me, anyway, that meant losing vibration for alarms, phone calls, and notifications - not just when tapping a button.

burningembers said:
+1 for stupidfast. Extremely noticeable speed difference.
Take note though that with DI01 you'll lose haptic feedback. And for me, anyway, that meant losing vibration for alarms, phone calls, and notifications - not just when tapping a button.
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I also lost ALL vibration on 1.54 using DI01, but that thing was awesome. Even better than voodoo. Everything was super smooth. Unfortunately, my phone is on vibrate more than 80% of the time.

Voodoo5 w/ DJ05
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So I am wondering what others opinions are of the roms and kernels available for the SF. Doesn't seem to be much of an improvement on Quadrant scores utilizing another rom or even stupidfast kernels.
Are we just kind of screwed a bit until 2.2? Is there a kernel that is overclocked?
TIA.

Quadrant scores are mostly meaningless, and 2.2 is unlikely to be revolutionary. The phone performs well on 2.1 - keep reading the forum and you'll get there.

In my opinion the biggest performance increases ive seen werent in any benchmarks but in dj05. it runs amazing. If u havent tried it i dont know whether you should or not. With the impending froyo release no one knows if they are actually going to release DJ05 or not. I think they should release it and then put froyo on top of that foundation if at all possible
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What do you feel about DJ that helped it out?
I finally stayed with just a Voodoo lag kernel. There certain operations on the phone I had gotten used to that were slow. The kernel with lag fix did show me noticeable improvement, more than just a higher I/O score in Quadrant.
I think the phone is fairly solid on 2.1 but needs a little help. Hopefully the Froyo upgrade really is around the corner but Im not holding my breath

jfigura said:
What do you feel about DJ that helped it out?
I finally stayed with just a Voodoo lag kernel. There certain operations on the phone I had gotten used to that were slow. The kernel with lag fix did show me noticeable improvement, more than just a higher I/O score in Quadrant.
I think the phone is fairly solid on 2.1 but needs a little help. Hopefully the Froyo upgrade really is around the corner but Im not holding my breath
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I'm running DJ05 deox, and the stock DJ05 kernel. I used Titanium Backup to remove all the bloatware, and I use ADW instead of TouchWiz crap. (I took TW off with Titanium Backup too). SetCPU to set max to 1ghz, and minimum to 400mhz. (NO PROFILES!!!) It runs just fine for me. Rather damn speedy actually!! I dont do the whole benchmark test business, doesn't really mean much IMO.

Yes benchmarks dont mean too much. But they are a good indication of overall performance in their specific areas that they test. As they fascinate test well in every area except i/o. But we already kne that. Im not sure what about DJ05 Made it feel so solid to me just overall improvement and actual working GPS
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ksizzle9 said:
Yes benchmarks dont mean too much. But they are a good indication of overall performance in their specific areas that they test. As they fascinate test well in every area except i/o. But we already kne that. Im not sure what about DJ05 Made it feel so solid to me just overall improvement and actual working GPS
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Where did you get the dj05 update?
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Ive only tried voodoo/lagfix
It made a significant difference on my phone. I reverted and restored all the factory stuff in anticipation of JD05 because I want to get it OTA when it drops.
I tried to get the leaked one in IRC but people just kept calling me n00b so I gave up.
I am hopeful that it will solve all my woes and usher in a new era of speed only previously dreamt about

Powell730 said:
Where did you get the dj05 update?
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its been discussed dozens of times where and how to get dj05

joe3681 said:
I'm running DJ05 deox, and the stock DJ05 kernel. I used Titanium Backup to remove all the bloatware, and I use ADW instead of TouchWiz crap. (I took TW off with Titanium Backup too). SetCPU to set max to 1ghz, and minimum to 400mhz. (NO PROFILES!!!) It runs just fine for me. Rather damn speedy actually!! I dont do the whole benchmark test business, doesn't really mean much IMO.
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ksizzle9 said:
Yes benchmarks dont mean too much. But they are a good indication of overall performance in their specific areas that they test. As they fascinate test well in every area except i/o. But we already kne that. Im not sure what about DJ05 Made it feel so solid to me just overall improvement and actual working GPS
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@Joe: same setup here (DJ05 deo, Stock Kernel and Rom, Frozen bloat in Titanium) without SetCPU. It's FAST. My GF and both my sons have EVOs running 2.2 and my Fascinate is just as fast (or faster)
@ksizzle: I agree, it's hard to quantify exactly what is so good about it. I think it's not what's there, but what's NOT there (lag) I think there are going to be plenty of happy n00bs when the OTA hits. This phone will be a screamer right out of the box!

NOsquid said:
Quadrant scores are mostly meaningless, and 2.2 is unlikely to be revolutionary.
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Actually, the real performance difference between 2.2. and 2.1 is very revolutionary, though I certainly agree with you about the irrelevance of Quadrant scores. The Java virtual machine, for example, executes code 450% -- that's not a typo -- faster, which directly impacts most apps.
And, 2.2's browser is also significantly faster than 2.1's -- and iOS4's, for that matter.
I like my Fascinate, and yes, I would consider it fast (especially running DJ05 with Geeknik's kernels) but like many others, I too see slowdowns sometimes that just shouldn't happen with the phone's hardware. Froyo isn't a magic pill, per se, but it should significantly reduce or eliminate those slowdowns (as it did on my old Droid 1, despite it's far-slower processor).
http://crave.cnet.co.uk/mobiles/and...r-vs-android-15-cupcake-speed-taste-49305763/
http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/0...-it-compared-to-2-1-oh-only-about-450-faster/
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/news/2010/07/android-22-demolishes-ios4-in-javascript-benchmarks.ars

Actually, the real performance difference between 2.2. and 2.1 is very revolutionary, though I certainly agree with you about the irrelevance of Quadrant scores. The Java virtual machine, for example, executes code 450% in benchmarks -- that's not a typo -- faster, which do not directly impact most apps.
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Fixed that for ya. Don't let marketing hype get the best of ya.

Everything I've read states that the performance improvements between 2.1 and 2.2 have little effect on Hummingbird processors (which is what is in all Galaxy S phones), and the biggest performance gains are seen on Snapdragon processors. As far as performance goes, I'll believe it when I see it.

imnuts said:
Everything I've read states that the performance improvements between 2.1 and 2.2 have little effect on Hummingbird processors (which is what is in all Galaxy S phones), and the biggest performance gains are seen on Snapdragon processors. As far as performance goes, I'll believe it when I see it.
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This is because JIT was designed specifically around a Snapdragon processor.

[Q] Tips on getting a better speed on my Vibrant??

I have a Vibrant rooted running the Team Whiskey Bionix-v1.2.1 ROM. I have a few apps that I use daily, but the only one I know does any major damage to speed is beautiful widgets. I don't use any live backgrounds. I scored a 1536 on a benchmark test from Quadrant Standard.
Do you guys know of ways to better these scores?

Use AutoKiller Memory Optimizer

Unless your phone actually feels sluggish I wouldnt worry about quadrant scores. If it is sluggish try installing Voodoo or one of the Universal Lagfix in the developers section.

regP said:
Unless your phone actually feels sluggish I wouldnt worry about quadrant scores. If it is sluggish try installing Voodoo or one of the Universal Lagfix in the developers section.
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With a 1500+ quadrant he's already running Voodoo...
I do agree that unless the phone is feeling slow to not worry about it. Quadrant is pretty easy to fudge over 2k even though the phone isn't any faster.

Didn't wana assume lol..

Haha yes I have voodoo, bionix-v1.2.1 comes with it preset. Appreciate the help.
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actually, if you going for score some of the older J-rom series with over clock really scored high........ But with the current setup, you typically have 11-15 or so things that are open and TSR, if you remove alot of those to make it a vanilla barebones, then o.c it...... you can improve the score........ BUT speed scores are not worth much other than bragging rights.......... Like everyone else said if your phone is performing well then,..........who cares about the scores

Yea I'm just trying to see if there are things I can do to make it perform even better than it already is
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Andrew.Dodson07 said:
Yea I'm just trying to see if there are things I can do to make it perform even better than it already is
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What areas is the phone lacking performance for you?

Andrew.Dodson07 said:
Yea I'm just trying to see if there are things I can do to make it perform even better than it already is
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Go look up the Dragon 3.6 Kernel in the Dev section. You can overclock the phone a little or a lot depending how much it can handle. I'm running 1.2ghz at the moment.

regP said:
What areas is the phone lacking performance for you?
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It really isn't particularly lacking in any way that I can tell. But i remember thinking that same thing back when i had AOL dial up haha. I'm impressed with the phones ability now, i just want to know if this is as good as it gets

Andrew.Dodson07 said:
It really isn't particularly lacking in any way that I can tell. But i remember thinking that same thing back when i had AOL dial up haha. I'm impressed with the phones ability now, i just want to know if this is as good as it gets
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Stock 2.2.1 is the fastest/smoothest ROM I've used on this phone ever and it hasn't even been optimized. I also downloaded the Dragon Kernel v3.6 and overclocked it to 1.28Ghz and its very stable. I always use my friends iPhone 4 to compare speeds and with the current setup I have now their isn't any difference in speed.

Quadrant score

What rom has the highest quad score for the vibrant?
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Depends on many factors, not just the rom. There's also the Kernel, OCing, UVing and even the launcher.

Highest I have had without an overclock was 2456, and that was on Simply Galaxy v3 RC3 (Port from i9000) with all the tweaks engaged. It was very very fast. Faster than any other ROM I have used, even with overclock. Hell, if I could OC with that ROM I would bet that I could break 3000+ quads easy. But quads are worthless. You just have to try using the phone with the speed of that ROM. I didn't know the vibrant could be that fast.

Running Trigger right now. Get anywhere from 1400-1600. Runs ok. Was just wondering what some of the other Rome were capable of. How is the Simply Galaxy rom? I personally don't know anyone who has used it.
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2750 Quadrant.
Darky 9.5 Froyo 2.2.1 base rom, 1.48Ghz Bullet Kernel linked in my sig.
Phone is FLYIN. Gingerbread 2.3.3 builds can go higher (but have bugs).

I got a Quadrant of 3300.....!!
I was using my TI-83 calculator with a tic-tac stuck in the DC in slot!

2000 flat w/ bi winning V2 no OC w/ voodoo. VERY FAST though. Quadrant doesn't give it justice.

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2750 Quadrant.
Darky 9.5 Froyo 2.2.1 base rom, 1.48Ghz Bullet Kernel linked in my sig.
Phone is FLYIN. Gingerbread 2.3.3 builds can go higher (but have bugs).
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I get the same on darkys rom
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Quads dont mean anything.
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I have a 3500 quadrant. On top of that, my battery increases 2% every hour as a result.

I'm running Android 3.3 on mine. 4700 quadrant score and when I plug my usb up to my laptop the phone charges it.

5000 with a V8 hemi under the hood!

With the battery in, I get around 16K but I only get 8K if I take the battery out.
I'm using the FBS ROM.

Speaking of Quadrant...It sucks

cashyftw said:
Speaking of Quadrant...It sucks
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I second this.
So useless of an app, it has nothing to do with the actually smoothness and snapyness in any phone. Sometimes I feel it's scores are the other way around, the lowest you get the better your phone is

I'm a total lurker, but after "bricking" my vibrant about 3 weeks after getting it home last Fall and discovering the fix here, I've been tweaking, wiping, flashing, odining, and having a helluva lot of fun with it. I'll probably betray myself as still being a noob, but I see everyone kind of poo-pooing Quadrant as meaningless (and other benchmarks, it seems). Is there any objective measurement that you guys consider worthwhile?
I thought I was all hot **** for breaking the 2K mark, but I guess none of that matters?
Trigger 3.2 with Bullet 1.42...just added bullet, so currently OC'd to 1.2 while I get a feel for what the phone can handle.

anthonys2r said:
I have a 3500 quadrant. On top of that, my battery increases 2% every hour as a result.
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What are you currently on and what kernel are you using?

test4vibrant said:
What are you currently on and what kernel are you using?
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He was obviously being sarcastic. Can't believe someone fell for the increasing battery **** LOL.
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On Biwinning with o.c. I am getting 2580 ....... but it does not perform ant better than leaving the clock @ 1000 so I leave unclocked ......... I get great battery life then...........

Quadrant is amusing...
but it's not always telling of how a rom actually performs. Back in the day when we were using the OCLF, quad scrores were in the 2k range and that was with 2.1
That being said, I felt compelled to post this anyway, mainly just to show the cpu score improvement that we get with gingerbread. My phone was running Cyanogenmod7 at stock speeds. Comparing quadrant scores between roms that are all based off of each other is pointless.
The 1815 score is from CM7
The 1755 score is from MIUI
MIUI performs great, but it's not as buttery smooth as CM7. But from the two scores you wouldn't see that. More importantly I think this also lends to what I said about comparing two scores between roms that are based off of each other.

Best Before Date

my Atrix was flying before i had to send it in for warranty work a few weeks back. (digitizer) Antutu scores around 7000. the rest of the benchmark tests where pretty high also. When it was returned i immediately unlocked the bootloader and rooted it. Now my scores from Antutu are 4500 at best. I am using the exact same rom (Neutrino), and kernel (Faux123) as before. I have tried other roms (cm7 nightlies) reinstalled and full fastboot wipe many times but still the same outcome. The only difference i can see is that i used an different method to unlock the bootloader and root the second time around. Do you think the some of the permission where affected differently the second time around. Am i just overlooking something?
HELP!!!!!!
thks

Is the phone actually slower? Or just scoring lower scores?
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Benchmarks mean nothing
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Alcapone263 said:
Benchmarks mean nothing
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That was going to be my next statement.
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the phone actually feels slower. more laggy when it comes to videos, games, scrolling through menus. my fps scores are all lower across the board in any benckmark. yes i know they mean nothing but when the scores are that drastically effected there is an issue i believe.

gentledroid17 said:
the phone actually feels slower. more laggy when it comes to videos, games, scrolling through menus. my fps scores are all lower across the board in any benckmark. yes i know they mean nothing but when the scores are that drastically effected there is an issue i believe.
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I have heard that refurbished phones USUALLY don't perform as well as the brand new ones do. Here is my example, a refurbished Atrix I read from some users can't even sometimes boot a custom kernel when the custom kernel is around 1.45 to 1.6. For example the one kernel that the dev clemsyn. I saw a FEW mention that when they said they had a refurbished Atrix.
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gentledroid17 said:
my Atrix was flying before i had to send it in for warranty work a few weeks back. (digitizer) Antutu scores around 7000. the rest of the benchmark tests where pretty high also. When it was returned i immediately unlocked the bootloader and rooted it. Now my scores from Antutu are 4500 at best. I am using the exact same rom (Neutrino), and kernel (Faux123) as before. I have tried other roms (cm7 nightlies) reinstalled and full fastboot wipe many times but still the same outcome. The only difference i can see is that i used an different method to unlock the bootloader and root the second time around. Do you think the some of the permission where affected differently the second time around. Am i just overlooking something?
HELP!!!!!!
thks
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There is a "Boost.sh" script included with Neutrino (I believe in /system/etc) that Notorious recommends be run when you get that "not so fresh" feeling. It is a defrag tool that can be assigned to a widget and should be run every so often.
Also, you will want to see if "Nitrocharger.sh" in the same directory is running as Root at Boot. I have seen big improvements by implementing this.
Both of these scripts came with the ROM, so hopefully you have fast access to them. Good luck to you!

thanks for the info fellow xdaers,,,,,

Voelker45 said:
I have heard that refurbished phones USUALLY don't perform as well as the brand new ones do. Here is my example, a refurbished Atrix I read from some users can't even sometimes boot a custom kernel when the custom kernel is around 1.45 to 1.6. For example the one kernel that the dev clemsyn. I saw a FEW mention that when they said they had a refurbished Atrix.
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Actually I had the opposite experience. My original phone wouldn't boot with the clemsyn kernel. My digitizer bombed and I received a refurbished unit from repairs. The new unit runs the clemsyn kernel just fine. So I guess it's just the luck of the draw...
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tobnddl said:
There is a "Boost.sh" script included with Neutrino (I believe in /system/etc) that Notorious recommends be run when you get that "not so fresh" feeling. It is a defrag tool that can be assigned to a widget and should be run every so often.
Also, you will want to see if "Nitrocharger.sh" in the same directory is running as Root at Boot. I have seen big improvements by implementing this.
Both of these scripts came with the ROM, so hopefully you have fast access to them. Good luck to you!
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gentledroid17 said:
the phone actually feels slower. more laggy when it comes to videos, games, scrolling through menus. my fps scores are all lower across the board in any benckmark. yes i know they mean nothing but when the scores are that drastically effected there is an issue i believe.
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As tob said, those "so verry little script" can makes big differences sometimes
I would like to add my personal toughts, for me, the ROM actually scoring higher and higher and feel a litle bit more freshier each week past within the ROM... so my thoughts would be, the cache partition, the more longer the rom is implemented, the more score you'll get cause the cache slowly become bigger and bigger giving you full power to open something tough!
As for the battery, from my experiences, you can't really judge a battery life while you just flashed a rom, you got to wait until the first week to see if there a big changes between the other ROM you came from ... so my guess would be, those scripts and the longer the ROM is implemented on your phone, the more fast and stable it will get, and you will feel the power slowly coming out again!
My bad if I'm completely wrong, but it is my guess!
Hood luck with your "new" phone

i brought up some old Antutu scores and notice that my ram. cpu integar and floating point scores are extremely low. i have tried multiple kernels but still no change. now i am even more confused......doesn't take much. could it be that my cpu is locked so i can not overclock. it kinda feels like its only utilizing one core.

after weeks of exhaustive searching i finally found a fix that worked.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1131649
pdsfix.zip
now my antutu scores are back up to around 7000. less lag in app drawer and opening /closing certain app. its back to silky smooth yeehaw.