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[Q] No JIT in DK28

So DK28 is supposedly 2.2.1 but I ran Quandrat with the stock rom and it comes up 873, almost exactly the same as Galaxy S 2.1, leading me to believe that JIT is not in the rom. Correct?

avenger213 said:
So DK28 is supposedly 2.2.1 but I ran Quandrat with the stock rom and it comes up 873, almost exactly the same as Galaxy S 2.1, leading me to believe that JIT is not in the rom. Correct?
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I may be wrong but quadrant:
1) Isn't the best way to base performance
2) Doesn't really show improvements that JIT provides
Download linpack if you want and your score should be around a 14 or so, compared to the 8.5-9 on 2.1

Quadrant isn't a real life benchmark, and is highly flawed. Check out Quantum's "warp speed edition" ROM for proof.
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I got 1205 with stock dk28 but I have noticed others reporting lower scores. Variability in testing with a bad benchmark perhaps?

I've got 1839 lol... For some reason I doubt that's accurate

I did a quadrant test with a stock epic 2.1 and an epic on dk28 and the scores were pretty much the same every time. The major difference was that the Froyo epic ran the cpu benchmarks much faster but hung during the first I/O test. The 2.1 epic ran everything about the same speed and completed the whole test much faster than the froyo epic.

I also noticed this and posted in another thread...
to quote myself
I was getting around 8.3xx in 2.1, and now I'm getting 13.7xx in 2.2.
(I used the 1506bdf2e04b.update-SPH-D700_DI18ToDK28.zip renamed to update.zip method.)
Saw a video the other day showing a nexus 1 scoring 20+ on 1st run and 40+ on 2nd.. My friends Evo (with 2.2) scored @ 38 or so..
Quadrant still shows me well under all of the 2.2+ phones listed.
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I expected a bit more of an increase..
I too am wondering if the JIT was left out of our Froyo (if that's even possible, I'm still a total nube to andriod stuff).

What exactly is JIT, does it speed the phone up?
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Just In Time compiling...
From what I know about .Net (I'm a C# coder), it allows for compilation of the app for the specific CPU during the 1st run.
Someone please correct me if this differes from andriod's JIT...

the epic has fast computation hw between the cpu and gpu, it could be the case that the JIT benefit doesn't show in the benchmark margins.
the device is a fast one, all compared.

Best Way to Improve Performance

So I am wondering what others opinions are of the roms and kernels available for the SF. Doesn't seem to be much of an improvement on Quadrant scores utilizing another rom or even stupidfast kernels.
Are we just kind of screwed a bit until 2.2? Is there a kernel that is overclocked?
TIA.

Quadrant scores are mostly meaningless, and 2.2 is unlikely to be revolutionary. The phone performs well on 2.1 - keep reading the forum and you'll get there.

In my opinion the biggest performance increases ive seen werent in any benchmarks but in dj05. it runs amazing. If u havent tried it i dont know whether you should or not. With the impending froyo release no one knows if they are actually going to release DJ05 or not. I think they should release it and then put froyo on top of that foundation if at all possible
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What do you feel about DJ that helped it out?
I finally stayed with just a Voodoo lag kernel. There certain operations on the phone I had gotten used to that were slow. The kernel with lag fix did show me noticeable improvement, more than just a higher I/O score in Quadrant.
I think the phone is fairly solid on 2.1 but needs a little help. Hopefully the Froyo upgrade really is around the corner but Im not holding my breath

jfigura said:
What do you feel about DJ that helped it out?
I finally stayed with just a Voodoo lag kernel. There certain operations on the phone I had gotten used to that were slow. The kernel with lag fix did show me noticeable improvement, more than just a higher I/O score in Quadrant.
I think the phone is fairly solid on 2.1 but needs a little help. Hopefully the Froyo upgrade really is around the corner but Im not holding my breath
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I'm running DJ05 deox, and the stock DJ05 kernel. I used Titanium Backup to remove all the bloatware, and I use ADW instead of TouchWiz crap. (I took TW off with Titanium Backup too). SetCPU to set max to 1ghz, and minimum to 400mhz. (NO PROFILES!!!) It runs just fine for me. Rather damn speedy actually!! I dont do the whole benchmark test business, doesn't really mean much IMO.

Yes benchmarks dont mean too much. But they are a good indication of overall performance in their specific areas that they test. As they fascinate test well in every area except i/o. But we already kne that. Im not sure what about DJ05 Made it feel so solid to me just overall improvement and actual working GPS
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ksizzle9 said:
Yes benchmarks dont mean too much. But they are a good indication of overall performance in their specific areas that they test. As they fascinate test well in every area except i/o. But we already kne that. Im not sure what about DJ05 Made it feel so solid to me just overall improvement and actual working GPS
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Where did you get the dj05 update?
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Ive only tried voodoo/lagfix
It made a significant difference on my phone. I reverted and restored all the factory stuff in anticipation of JD05 because I want to get it OTA when it drops.
I tried to get the leaked one in IRC but people just kept calling me n00b so I gave up.
I am hopeful that it will solve all my woes and usher in a new era of speed only previously dreamt about

Powell730 said:
Where did you get the dj05 update?
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its been discussed dozens of times where and how to get dj05

joe3681 said:
I'm running DJ05 deox, and the stock DJ05 kernel. I used Titanium Backup to remove all the bloatware, and I use ADW instead of TouchWiz crap. (I took TW off with Titanium Backup too). SetCPU to set max to 1ghz, and minimum to 400mhz. (NO PROFILES!!!) It runs just fine for me. Rather damn speedy actually!! I dont do the whole benchmark test business, doesn't really mean much IMO.
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ksizzle9 said:
Yes benchmarks dont mean too much. But they are a good indication of overall performance in their specific areas that they test. As they fascinate test well in every area except i/o. But we already kne that. Im not sure what about DJ05 Made it feel so solid to me just overall improvement and actual working GPS
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@Joe: same setup here (DJ05 deo, Stock Kernel and Rom, Frozen bloat in Titanium) without SetCPU. It's FAST. My GF and both my sons have EVOs running 2.2 and my Fascinate is just as fast (or faster)
@ksizzle: I agree, it's hard to quantify exactly what is so good about it. I think it's not what's there, but what's NOT there (lag) I think there are going to be plenty of happy n00bs when the OTA hits. This phone will be a screamer right out of the box!

NOsquid said:
Quadrant scores are mostly meaningless, and 2.2 is unlikely to be revolutionary.
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Actually, the real performance difference between 2.2. and 2.1 is very revolutionary, though I certainly agree with you about the irrelevance of Quadrant scores. The Java virtual machine, for example, executes code 450% -- that's not a typo -- faster, which directly impacts most apps.
And, 2.2's browser is also significantly faster than 2.1's -- and iOS4's, for that matter.
I like my Fascinate, and yes, I would consider it fast (especially running DJ05 with Geeknik's kernels) but like many others, I too see slowdowns sometimes that just shouldn't happen with the phone's hardware. Froyo isn't a magic pill, per se, but it should significantly reduce or eliminate those slowdowns (as it did on my old Droid 1, despite it's far-slower processor).
http://crave.cnet.co.uk/mobiles/and...r-vs-android-15-cupcake-speed-taste-49305763/
http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/0...-it-compared-to-2-1-oh-only-about-450-faster/
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/news/2010/07/android-22-demolishes-ios4-in-javascript-benchmarks.ars

Actually, the real performance difference between 2.2. and 2.1 is very revolutionary, though I certainly agree with you about the irrelevance of Quadrant scores. The Java virtual machine, for example, executes code 450% in benchmarks -- that's not a typo -- faster, which do not directly impact most apps.
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Fixed that for ya. Don't let marketing hype get the best of ya.

Everything I've read states that the performance improvements between 2.1 and 2.2 have little effect on Hummingbird processors (which is what is in all Galaxy S phones), and the biggest performance gains are seen on Snapdragon processors. As far as performance goes, I'll believe it when I see it.

imnuts said:
Everything I've read states that the performance improvements between 2.1 and 2.2 have little effect on Hummingbird processors (which is what is in all Galaxy S phones), and the biggest performance gains are seen on Snapdragon processors. As far as performance goes, I'll believe it when I see it.
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This is because JIT was designed specifically around a Snapdragon processor.

Quadrant Benchmark results.

Just wanted to know the highest score anyones ever got. Im using myns rls5 underclocked to 806 with nets kernel. Im getting a score of 908 lmao, wtf?
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Well the fact that the new version reads lower plus the fact that your underclocked that much, I'm surprised it was that high, unless you're still on 1.5.
The highest scores are from CM6 w/ the Snap Turbo Kernel and range from 2500 to ~3000. Highest I ever got was 2700. Miui also gets high scores of like 1700 to 2000ish for some people, although I usually go 1500s. For Sense ROMs, I think the highest I've gotten was 1500s or maybe low 16s with the old Quadrant and MikFroyo + Ziggy's BFS kernel.
I also used to get 1400s with EViO 2 1.7 underclocked to 921. That is a sweet ROM.

Its been a few month's since i ran one, but I think it was a little over 1200

Benchmarks
CM7 Nightly #11, Kernel 2.6.37.1
Quadrant / Linpack / Neocore

9000 my phones a BEAST !
funny part is all the numbers mean squat

CheesyNutz said:
funny part is all the numbers mean squat
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Yeah, if you're phone feels snappy thats all that matters.

CheesyNutz said:
9000 my phones a BEAST !
funny part is all the numbers mean squat
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OMG 9000? Is that a phone or pc bro? lmao
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I get 600 at 384mhz. beat that

Categorically Worthless vs. Overstock

Is there a difference between these two kernels? They both have the same features. Opinion?

Press search. This thread was created about 3 days ago.
Readers digest, both are amazing, seemed like most were on OS.

roguly said:
Is there a difference between these two kernels? They both have the same features. Opinion?
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They perform exactly the same in my opinion

Roughly the same feature set, but categorically worthless kernel seems a bit more stable for me. Theres a more aggressive ram hack in ovedstock, possibly leading to the higher benchmarks. All I want is stability, stock frequency, and voodoo sound. Both are great kernels though, and come highly recommended. In the end you wont see much difference.
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s15274n said:
Press search. This thread was created about 3 days ago.
Readers digest, both are amazing, seemed like most were on OS.
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Sorry, I wasn't like specifically looking for an answer so that's why I didn't search for this question. I was just looking at the kernels and realized they were both the same so I made this thread.
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roguly said:
Sorry, I wasn't like specifically looking for an answer so that's why I didn't search for this question. I was just looking at the kernels and realized they were both the same so I made this thread.
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Don't be sorry, be yourself. With that said, they are not the same. I started with CW and ran quadrants of low to mid 1400's. Battery life decent, phone was snappy but not jaw-dropping. I moved to OS, and quadrant scores jumped to mid to high 1600's. Snappy would be a mild understatement for how the phone responded then. Battery life seemed better, but it could also have been a difference in usage. This was all with stock 2.2 ROM, mind you.
Now... I run Trigger with OverStock, quadrants are consistently mid 1800's, battery life is great, and snappy would be an insult because of how fast this thing screams!
Also, I haven't had even a sniff of instability with either kernel.
OS doesn't blow CW away, but it is faster, and compliments Trigger ROM beautifully, so in my over-confident opinion, it is the better of the 2 kernels.
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Droidificator said:
Don't be sorry, be yourself. With that said, they are not the same. I started with CW and ran quadrants of low to mid 1400's. Battery life decent, phone was snappy but not jaw-dropping. I moved to OS, and quadrant scores jumped to mid to high 1600's. Snappy would be a mild understatement for how the phone responded then. Battery life seemed better, but it could also have been a difference in usage. This was all with stock 2.2 ROM, mind you.
Now... I run Trigger with OverStock, quadrants are consistently mid 1800's, battery life is great, and snappy would be an insult because of how fast this thing screams!
Also, I haven't had even a sniff of instability with either kernel.
OS doesn't blow CW away, but it is faster, and compliments Trigger ROM beautifully, so in my over-confident opinion, it is the better of the 2 kernels.
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OverStock 1.3 and Trigger 2.7 is an awesome combo! Much better than anything I've ran so far!

BriDroid-74 said:
OverStock 1.3 and Trigger 2.7 is an awesome combo! Much better than anything I've ran so far!
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An even better combo is darky's rom with OS . Nuclear reactor
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dany865 said:
An even better combo is darky's rom with OS . Nuclear reactor
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I'm going to have to try that, but if I end up with a bricked brick, I'ma throw it at you!
In all seriousness though, I don't see myself using any other kernel until GB gets optimized and stabilized. OverStock just works.
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Fastest Evo Competition

Now that the Evo is rooted again lets see who can throw up the fastest benchmark numbers. Here's the rules.
1) Must have a screen shot of bench mark results
2) Include your rom and kernal
Let the games begin!

My evo is 9 inches long.

Benchmark scores are much like comparing penis sizes - if you do it on a forum, everyone is going to use someone else's photo or photoshop their own. Or just spout off some random large number, like the nine inches guy.
But, in contrast to penis sizes, benchmark scores don't matter. I personally have no clue what my scores would be, but my phone runs perfectly smooth so I'm not going to waste my time trying to make it faster just for bragging rights.
But I don't have a penis, so maybe I just don't get it.
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plainjane said:
But, in contrast to penis sizes, benchmark scores don't matter.
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I agree with everything you said, so youre saying size DOES matter?

I'm on my computer so no screenshot right now, but I consistently get 1000-1100 Quadrants with the following combination:
Synergy RLS1 non-GM
More Freedom 0.8.5 Universal
245-768 MHz, interactiveX, noop

You do know that quadrant scores can be changed by the user?

Art2Fly said:
I agree with everything you said, so youre saying size DOES matter?
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We (and I'm speaking for most females here) will tell you otherwise, but size does matter to an extent. There's a little wiggle room, but yeah it makes a difference.
Girth is just as important, if not more important than length, and freakishly large penises are personally not much fun. But don't worry, it doesn't have to be as big as you think. I haven't slept with very many guys, but I have found that most of them thought that theirs was too small. Only one's was.
But no, benchmark scores don't matter. Not at all.
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Yeah I can understand the girth part, I guess it's like being a musician, you never feel like youre good enough, even though god blesses you with.. talent.. anywho, i think its time to get it on.
I get 1300 with Miui.

We're talking about penis sizes? Hahahaha <3xda
Deck's + SZ + SuperCharger script + ViperMod script.

nice thats good

My quadrant score is 4.
Mflops is -12
Penis length is 7.1644" @ 75°F
Is that good?
Evo Deck 1.3b2, Tiamat 3.3.7, -75mV undervolt, 245/883mhz, smartass gov.

Running "[KingsROM][Alliance RLS-3] [ODEXED] [NETFLIX]SENSE 2.1+ 3.0 HybriD 3D " The BREED ", stock kernal. Might overclock, but I'm not THAT knowledgable on modding just yet.

LOL - Good to know size doesn't matter My Evo is hung like a hamster, but it's hell at 100 MPH. I try not to make him feel to bad by taking about his benchmarks and short comings. Fortunately for MY Evo he can fake how big he is in certain applications so it makes him feel better.

so.. whats the point of "size matters" if when I flashed Synergy+GM the score was way longer than regular synergy but way slower... makes no sense

Did I win?
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I'm a tripod.
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Using cm7 savagezen kernal 245 min 1113 Max on demand. With v6 supercharger. I've gotten all the way into 1600s on past but I'm to lazy to reset phone and get it up to its Max tonight

I don't have screenshots, but I was running Synergy RLS1 + Godmode and I had a quadrant score of about 2000, but it didn't mean much considering how badly everything else performed.
I remember on stock OTA it was about 500. I'm on Synergy RLS1, and now I get about 1000.

did I win?
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notown775 said:
did I win?
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...Something's not right here... >_>