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Htc hd2 android froyo 2.2

Hmm ive been using froyo in my hd2 for the past few months its really great but i found a few problems, my screen always goes black randomly and have to remove the battery to restart it but then i have to reboot android from windows again lol, is there a way. I could choose to have automatic boot as droid?, and the facebook app that it supposef to havepre installed doesnt wotk so i cant sync my contacs to it. Hmmm and i cant use it in usb data transfer mode, a few preinstalled stuff dont work and some stuff isnt installed at all dont know how to fix it can anyone help me? I really like my fone as android, cuz windows realy just wasted the nice fone with win on it,
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

Sounds like you're using an outdated version of Android (well the build anyway). I had several problems like you're describing with a few builds when I started out with Android.
Things have come on leaps and bounds now, facebook integration works across the board, black screen freezes and sleeps of death are very close to eradicated on the more mature builds and USB transfer mode has been working for a while too (I use it on a daily basis).
As for the bootloader, I use Exceller Boot Loader (search for it on this very site for an installable cab under WinMo) and you can automatically load Android every reboot once you've got it configured correctly.
So, in summary:
1: Update your build to a current one and see the changes. You can keep your current data a number of ways (data.img stores all your sms, contacts, games etc, but not all builds can read your old data.img, install Titanium Backup and read the wiki for it to get that working for almost guaranteed success)
2: Exceller Boot Loader or another boot loader of your choice, there are lots to choose from.

Thanks, amm do u have aby suggestions on witch froyo i should use cuz i see my post by like froyostone something like that but the one im using is darkfroyo something like that. Hmmm
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

Honestly it's all down to what you prefer. Some people prefer Sense based builds, some prefer non-sense builds (CM6/MIUI/stock) and so on. My best advice to you would be to try a few and see how you get on.
for instance I used to only use sense builds until a couple of nights ago when I plucked up the courage to try ShubCraft 2.0 (A Cyanogen Mod 6 build) and I love it. The main thing to remember is to experiment and enjoy it.

If the andriod rom has grown from leaps and bound, why has there not been one that stable enough to use everyday? Not being a ass about it
But Id like to be able to use my phone without the issues that these new roms have, its bad enough when the window roms act up

I think you'll find that a lot of HD2 owners here are (and have been for a while!) using various android builds full time now. I have not actively used my HD2 in winmo mode for many weeks now.
Whilst there may be a few minor issues my experience is that current builds are much better than many winmo builds with fewer problems.
I prefer using desire based builds are better than Evo based builds but that is a personal preference.
Try them out seriously... the developers here have done great work.

[REQ] Desire HD ALL in NAND EU Version [NOT A BUILD yet]

[TMOUS? don't bother reading it.. it's for EU Version with 512mb]
AND THERE IS IT!!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=903002
I've been using for quite a while DHD builds and I really like them.
I've tried quite a lot of NAND builds, but the SD builds still better in terms of stability and it suits most the "daily-use" kinda of build.
[that's my personal opinion.. not relevant. the important bit is below]
On EU HD2 there's 512mb of NAND, not enough to put the whole DHD stock build, unfortunately. Few devs found few work around: either by compress it or put the data.img on the SD card.
IMO both these two solution slows down the entire build, especially in the second where also data corruption is introduced.
So I'm requesting a build where only the necessary is cooked in.
These are apps not really useful imo; therefore they should be removed [including their widget]:
-Adobe reader (install from the market if you need it)
-Amazon MP3
-Barcode Scanner (used only 2-3 times)
-Car Panel (Use software like co-pilot & navigon)
[gmail should be cooked in]
-Google Search (just use the browser)
-HTC likes (completely useless)
-Latitude
-G Maps (again, use co-pilot or navigon instead)
-News
-News and Weather (completely useless)
-Quickoffice (old version, install from market if you need it)
-Soundhound (???)
-Twitter (I use another app)
-Facebook (install from market if you need it)
-Teeter (???)
-Stocks
[g talk should be cooked in]
-ebook stuff (doesn't work yet lol)
-Youtube (as the browser has flash, why would you use it? )
-Transfer data
Stuff within the build:
- Skins (only one [I would like Slate]. download the others from HTC hub)
- Only one light wallpaper
- No notification sound; download what you like from htc hub
- No live wallpaper, no even to show to your iPhone-fan friend.
- No boot animation
Program I think should be cooked as they are essential
-SU
SetCPU http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=505419
support the devs
[Any other suggestion will be appreciated.]
Again, this is just me. But I think quite a few people shares my idea.
As a really light build, anyone could enjoy it personalizing as they want.
Also it should be set "SD card" as the default location for installing apps
I don't know if this is gonna work in any way. I hope it will though.
However I do remember that the space left in WinMo with cooked roms wasn't that much.. like 140mb (correct me if I'm wrong.. such a long time I don't use it).
So I'm aiming to have around 100 - 150mb of space. I think it's enough, considering that a large amount of apps will go to the SD.
We can get more than 150mb apparently. AWESOME!!!
Now I'm kindly ask if any dev around could answer my request.
2 people are working on it atm; each is making their own version
Want to join in?
Thank you
EDIT:
Few suggest that the data could be saved on a ext4 partition on the SD card.
What is the difference between data.img and a ext4 partition? Advantages | Disadvantages
How could you create it under Win7 x64?
512mb is enough for system files. good.
no more ext4
EDIT2:
All non european languages could be removed to gain further space I.e. Chinese, Japanese.
Also the related keyboard's dictionaries.
How about only English?

As a TMOUS HD2 user, I'd like to see a Desire HD/Z build that is 100% stock theme with no squashing or stripping of apps. I would like my phone to look and work like a Desire HD would, right after taking it out of the box(minus the obvious things... 720P recording, 8mp camera... etc...).
Tried to make this myself based on m-deejay's Desire HD revolution 2.1 ROM but failed epically. Would love to see one of our highly esteemed Android chef's make this happen.

dharvey4651 said:
As a TMOUS HD2 user, I'd like to see a Desire HD/Z build that is 100% stock theme with no squashing or stripping of apps. I would like my phone to look and work like a Desire HD would, right after taking it out of the box(minus the obvious things... 720P recording, 8mp camera... etc...).
Tried to make this myself based on m-deejay's Desire HD revolution 2.1 ROM but failed epically. Would love to see one of our highly esteemed Android chef's make this happen.
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why would you like to have a stock DHD with all the boatware that only slows down Android?

hrockh said:
I've been using for quite a while DHD builds and I really like them.
I've tried quite a lot of NAND builds, but the SD builds still better in terms of stability and it suits most the "daily-use" kinda of build.
On EU HD2 there's 512mb of nand, not enough to put the whole DHD stock build, unfortunately. Few devs found few work around: either by compress it or put the data.img on the SD card.
IMO both these two solution slows down the entire build, especially in the second where also data corruption is introduced.
So I'm requesting a build where only the necessary is cooked in.
These are apps not really useful imo; therefore they should be removed [including their widget]:
-Adobe reader (install from the market if you need it)
-Amazon MP3
-Barcode Scanner (used only 2-3 times)
-Car Panel (Use software like co-pilot & navigon)
-GMail (don't use gmail. .apk easily findable in google)
-Google Search (just use the browser)
-HTC likes (completely useless)
-Latitude
-G Maps (again, use co-pilot or navigon instead)
-News
-News and Weather (completely useless)
-Quickoffice (old version, install from market if you need it)
-Soundhound (???)
-Twitter (I use another app)
-Facebook (install from market if you need it)
-Teeter (???)
-Stocks
-G talk (i use skype, again install from market if you need it)
-ebook stuff (doesn't work yet lol)
-Youtube (as the browser has flash, why would you use it? )
-Transfer data
Stuff within the build:
-Skins (only one [I would like Slate]. download the others from HTC hub)
-only one light wallpaper
-No notification sound; download what you like from htc hub
Program I think should be cooked as they are essential
-SetCPU
-SU
-XDA
[Any other suggestion will be appreciated.]
Again, this is just me. But I think quite a few people shares my idea.
As a really light build, anyone could enjoy it personalizing as they want.
Also it should be set "SD card" as the default location for installing apps
I don't know if this is gonna work in any way. I hope it will though.
However I do remember that the space left in WinMo with cooked roms wasn't that much.. like 140mb (correct me if I'm wrong.. such a long time I don't use it).
So I'm aiming to have around 100 - 150mb of space. I think it's enough, considering that a large amount of apps will go to the SD.
Now I'm kindly ask if any dev around could answer my request.
Thank you
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I should simply say: cook the apps, which are not downloadable.
By the way I have a european HD2, have 81 apps (a lot moved to SD) and still 65 MB internernal storage free, and everything working fine.

I need a kitchen for all the various ROMs the geniuses at xda have created with detailed instructions on how to build one's own image as it was very eas, for me at least, with Windows Mobile but with Linux, my skills are virtually non-existant. Anyone?

+ 1 for this, something like a superlight-stock ROM would be much appreciated

hrockh said:
why would you like to have a stock DHD with all the boatware that only slows down Android?
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I prefer to be given the choice to remove apps I don't want rather than have them removed ahead of time and not being given the choice. "System App Remover" from Market is the app I use for this.

Ηey corha which nand rom do u use? the 1st one from cottula or another one ?

Have you tried?
Have you tried:
[31 DEC] gauner1986's HD-FI 0.3 (Desire HD based) [KERNEL = my own ] ?
Highly Recommended ROM!
Almost as you asking for....
Enjoy!

come on guys,don,t leave me out of this conversation.i want this special rom also

dharvey4651 said:
As a TMOUS HD2 user, I'd like to see a Desire HD/Z build that is 100% stock theme with no squashing or stripping of apps. I would like my phone to look and work like a Desire HD would, right after taking it out of the box(minus the obvious things... 720P recording, 8mp camera... etc...).
Tried to make this myself based on m-deejay's Desire HD revolution 2.1 ROM but failed epically. Would love to see one of our highly esteemed Android chef's make this happen.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=898708

Just use titanium backup in chuck norris mode to remove all apps and stuff but its still too slow i love dhd sense but cm roms are runnig very quick and are very customizable and with fancy weather widget and launcher pro it looks also good, give a try
Sent from my FutureShocks HD2 MIUI using XDA App

I actually want the opposite a full working DHD Rom with everything except outsider apps like soundhound, I just bought the hd2 to give it to my wife as an alternative to DHD
there is already a solution for this, the classic desire Rom RCmixHD comes in two solutions both very good
first is splitting the Rom in two, main stuff on internal and rest like apps are installed into a2sd+ ext
second solution is data2sd running on ext partition this gives a nice boost to io speed with less risks of delete or corruption
I'm actually surprised no one copied this yet by the way gauner v0.2 runs pretty good compared to v0.3 where the extra squashing has broke it, however even v0.2 has some missing stuff like voice commands in the HTC keyboard

CorHaa said:
I should simply say: cook the apps, which are not downloadable.
By the way I have a european HD2, have 81 apps (a lot moved to SD) and still 65 MB internernal storage free, and everything working fine.
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which build are you using atm?
dharvey4651 said:
I prefer to be given the choice to remove apps I don't want rather than have them removed ahead of time and not being given the choice. "System App Remover" from Market is the app I use for this.
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fair enough.. personally still can't get your point.
try this out; still developing
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=894965
TheAgent1982 said:
Have you tried:
[31 DEC] gauner1986's HD-FI 0.3 (Desire HD based) [KERNEL = my own ] ?
Highly Recommended ROM!
Almost as you asking for....
Enjoy!
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it is compressed I'm trying to avoid that
but thanks

MDJ's Revolution HD NAND was released on the 2nd of Jan and has a version where all the unrequired crap is taken out to free up storage. I ran it for a few days with no issues.
I'm sure HD builds will pop up over the next few days using ext partition on SD for data storage.

imilka said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=898708
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This is the 100% original build with no apps removed right? As it would be out of the box if it were a Desire Z?
I don't want a ROM that has had anything removed - I want it original.
Your thread doesn't say that anything has been removed but I want to clarify this before I wipe my phone again and install something different.

It's not possible. There isn't enough space available on the Euro HD2 to store everything in NAND.
You'll have to wait until someone released an HD build which installs all of the extras on the EXT partition on SD at first boot. Or use one fo teh builds that comes with a seperate data.img which you have to store on a FAT32 partition on SD.
It's a physical limitation of the hardware.
PS. Epic thread hijack dharvey!

Sentinel196 said:
It's not possible. There isn't enough space available on the Euro HD2 to store everything in NAND.
You'll have to wait until someone released an HD build which installs all of the extras on the EXT partition on SD at first boot. Or use one fo teh builds that comes with a seperate data.img which you have to store on a FAT32 partition on SD.
It's a physical limitation of the hardware.
PS. Epic thread hijack dharvey!
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the guy you are referring to is a TMOUS. so he should be fine.
he's quite OT.
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imilka said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=898708
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Highly Recommanded ! For daily use! Works flawlessly...

ok i know the Z is 99% same, but it has bigger font size which is really not impressive on 4.3inch like the DHD fonts dpi
plus the keyboard has no arrows
The DHD rom is really smart work from htc (never thought i would say that)
this is Robocik rom from the desire forums http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=789830
There are two versions of the rom, if you want stable and fast version choose Old Fasion version.
The Data2ext version is still new and can be changed and updated couple of times before we get it right, so this version is for those who dont are afraid of the mighty wipe hehe *New
The RCMixHD v0.14 D2EXT uses data2ext script, so the ext partition will be your internal storage, so use a size of your ext partition as big as you are gonna need. I am using EXT2 2GB class4 Sdcard, everything is working super.
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we will have to wait for builds that use an ext partition, fingers corssed who ever builds it will keep it purely stock like robocik did

photo editing

hi im looking for the same integrated application to edit photos after they are taken. the feature was present on mdj froyo 4.6 rom. i tried some editing programs from the market and im not satisfied. even though the integrated photo editor on mdj froyo rom had a small selection i was very impressed with things i could do. any files to transfer to a nand rom?

The editing feature your talking about is only on Desire HD roms. Not regular desire or CM roms. It's one of the main reason I stick with HD roms because I love the auto correct fature. I don't particularly like any of the apps from the market either. I SOMETIMES you photoshop mobile but it's rare.

oh ok i kind of figured that. well she will have to just deal with running from the sd card then. thanks for the info. its very appreciated.

[Q] Why sense builds are EXTREMELY slow compared with stock ?

Hi U all !
I just would like to know why this huge difference in performance between any GingerBread rom and any htc sense rom...
I love stock roms but I use my phone also for my work, and htc mail / dialer functions (groups and GAL GAL GAL) are a MUST for me...
All sense roms I have tried are extremely slow and totally useless in my opinion.. Why ?? All GingerBread I have tried are like 20x (or even more) faster than sense roms... is like using windows 7 with a x86486 compared with a i7....
I also need tomtom so for me nand is not an option...
Is there any fast and actual (bugless) sense rom ?? And when I say fast i mean compared with gingerbread roms... not with other slow roms...
Any news for a gingerbread with htc sense ?
I have tried all sense roms that exists here in XDA .
Any way to install htc mail / dialer in gingerbread ? Any other native alternative ?
Functions I missed in stock dialer / mail:
* Dialer:
- T9 phone contact search
- Groups
- GAL search (Global address list)
* Mail:
- Improved tasks and calendar entries integration
- Send a mail to multiple destinations using GAL
- Press in a GAL contact name (inside a mail) and be able to see more info (GAL info)
I miss more things... but these are really important for me...
Any idea / help ??
Really ty for all.

dandiest makes some awesome Sense builds(DesireZ 3.5 is great). They get most in Quadrant and 3D, but for some reason, 2.3 just feels faster. It gets less in Quadrant and benchmarks, but it feels faster. I recommend you use DesireZ 3.5 with ext4, it is by far the fastest sense build.

Hi !
First of all really ty for the answer.
I have been trying that build since first version and I try every update...
At least for me is not fast... In some moments build is ok but under just medium load it turns slow and unstable... When u try to install / update some apks for example the rom runs so slow and laggy... and "alt tab" + notifications bar is instant-respond 1 of each 30 tries... There is something in all sense roms that makes me think there is a bottleneck....
Cope / americandroid.... runs smooth under idle / medium / and full load... U can install apks and all is working great at same time.. notification bar is instant respond 100% and when u press home u go instantly to home... no matter when u press it... "Alt Tab" is also 100% instant respond...
WM + CHT sense is better and runs infinite faster than android sense.... so out of apps like whatsapp, tango and various more there is no reason to use android having a fast WM with more functionality and much faster....
I really like android but I hate to be able to have coffe between pressing a button and the next...

Istarth said:
Hi !
WM + CHT sense is better and runs infinite faster than android sense.... so out of apps like whatsapp, tango and various more there is no reason to use android having a fast WM with more functionality and much faster....
I really like android but I hate to be able to have coffe between pressing a button and the next...
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You are right, WM sometimes feels smoother than Android for example when you call somebody or open contacts, sms - no lag. Also when you move your phone away of your head - there is a LAG that kills me. When install apk - system lags a lot. Strange! I like Android but for daily phone calls I prefer WinMo - because no lags in phone part

Use RAM build or MOTO maxtouch 4G its fast like RAM and have features like desire hd

Yeah, sense roms is very slow. I try too nearly all sense roms and all of its laggy.
I'm now using Nand MIUI Stock (Works perfect, fast boot, not lag like Gingerbreads), I'm also trying to run SD darkstone SuperRAM Sense v0.1 (Boot AD SD in MAGLDR but everytime says Preparing SD Card and freeze, I can't solve it)
I'm also try DL Desire 3.5, DL Desire HD 1.1, DL Desire HD 2.0, AF403 DesireHD, Rafdroid HD v2.3, Stock Desire on EU HD2 v2 but everyone of this builds is laggy.
First boot great but adding google account, adding facebook and twitter accounts and phone starts syncing lag is starting.
When installing apps you can't do anyting just wait the installer.
I don't believe Quadrant Scores, because score says 1500+ but phone is useless.
MIUI Stock gets 1300+ but works great

Hi, I can completely understand your problem, before nand the best rom i used was this one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=791835 it's fast snappy and has sense... i tried about 20 builds.

Does a car drive any faster with a 300-pound man sitting inside?

Come on, if you can't live with it then get a native android with sense.
If you can't afford to buy one then live with that!
Devs are trying their best to do what they do best yet you do your whine also at your best.
"EXTREMELY slow" is an exaggeration! Besides, you are comparing it to non-sense builds. Compare one sense build to another sense build rather than sense build to a non-sense build.
Reality check, it is your choice which build you want to install. Instead of whining, why won't you cook your own rom?

[Q] Stock-like HD2 Android Builds

I have a few questions about the current state of android builds for the HD2.
I've been running the Cotulla DFT Stock Desire rom for a while with a few tweaks (prj 0.3 kernel, removed some system apps, repartitioned for more /data on NAND). It's been relatively stable but I thought i'd try a Desire HD build as I like some of the newer apps and smaller menu text (it works better on the 4.3" screen).
I tried the imilka RAM Desire HD build. The build has the same WiFi sleep issue (wifi disconnects after phone left in extended sleep) that the DFT Stock build has. It also has a very obscure partition format (with RAM, but system framework on SD), odd slowdowns, and a few other things including the camera FC.
Basically I am looking for a build for the HD2, with the following:
- Suit EU HD2
- Desire HD base
- As stock as possible. No crazy RAM or framework-on-sd stuff. Fine with removed apps (like maps, youtube, etc) and /data on A2SD+
- Odexed. I want performance not fancy graphics
- Good battery life
- Fixed wifi & camera (I dont care what resolution, I just dont want FC on using the share app)
- Prefer Desire keyboard (hate the arrows, take up too much screen space).
Is this wish list too much? I might try skink clean desire but it's not a HD build.
I'm really disappointed that there are so many different android builds for the HD2 yet they all seem to have the same basic problems. I liked the DFT rom as it was well tested and had no extra crud.
HELP!

Well maybe you should ask yourself this first. What major difference is there between a desire hd and desire build in terms of looks/functions? A new music app? A different widget look for messaging and e mail? A different camera interface (Note barely any of the features in the desire hd camera work, which I assume you know)? A camcorder that doesn't sync audio and visual correctly? HTC hub, which isn't even populated with anything of relevance yet. And to top it all off, the desire hd builds are considerably slower than desire builds. I'm just saying here, there's no advantage other than eye candy I guess.

galapogos01 said:
I have a few questions about the current state of android builds for the HD2.
I've been running the Cotulla DFT Stock Desire rom for a while with a few tweaks (prj 0.3 kernel, removed some system apps, repartitioned for more /data on NAND). It's been relatively stable but I thought i'd try a Desire HD build as I like some of the newer apps and smaller menu text (it works better on the 4.3" screen).
I tried the imilka RAM Desire HD build. The build has the same WiFi sleep issue (wifi disconnects after phone left in extended sleep) that the DFT Stock build has. It also has a very obscure partition format (with RAM, but system framework on SD), odd slowdowns, and a few other things including the camera FC.
Basically I am looking for a build for the HD2, with the following:
- Suit EU HD2
- Desire HD base
- As stock as possible. No crazy RAM or framework-on-sd stuff. Fine with removed apps (like maps, youtube, etc) and /data on A2SD+
- Odexed. I want performance not fancy graphics
- Good battery life
- Fixed wifi & camera (I dont care what resolution, I just dont want FC on using the share app)
- Prefer Desire keyboard (hate the arrows, take up too much screen space).
Is this wish list too much? I might try skink clean desire but it's not a HD build.
I'm really disappointed that there are so many different android builds for the HD2 yet they all seem to have the same basic problems. I liked the DFT rom as it was well tested and had no extra crud.
HELP!
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Try the Typhoon NAND rom, it runs very smooth on my EU HD2, very stock, and almost all other points you mentioned.

Well the rom development for hd2 has come a long way from dft/cotulla build. I'd suggest you try some newer nn sense roms which I find way faster than any sense rom, that's the only way to find out for sure.
After countless trail and error I have found my rom(HyperDroid GBX) which does what I want it to do, it fast smooth, everything seems to work for me, battery its good, GPS,Bluetooth,wifi all work as intended and that's why its my daily driver( I still try other roms but this is where I go back to), keep in mind that just because it works for me doest mean it'll work for you.
Td;lr: try other roms and find one that meets your needs (do your home work! )