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So Dzo has a thread going on flashing Android to the NAND.... SWEET!!!!!!!!!
I am going to try it out, but I want input from you all.
there are SO MANY different flavors of Android (1.5 1.6 2.0 cupcake eclair ion) and I would like to try them all for myself, but obviously this isn't realistic, so I want to know what you guys like the best?
So please... Anyone, EVERYONE.... Which build do you like best on the Vogue?!
And if you tell your favorite, please tell us as well what basefiles build, Rootfs and zImage build you use for the Version
Otherwise we must ask that again...
160bpm said:
And if you tell your favorite, please tell us as well what basefiles build, Rootfs and zImage build you use for the Version
Otherwise we must ask that again...
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Precisely bpm.
Ion 1.5 for its speed and stability.
Using latest basefiles.
I recommend a Donut build based on cyanogens work. He's added alot more features to the aosp making it more stable and including some of the best developments including the updated contacts and phone apps etc.
mssmison said:
I recommend a Donut build based on cyanogens work. He's added alot more features to the aosp making it more stable and including some of the best developments including the updated contacts and phone apps etc.
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Wanna spoonfeed me your link?
mfpreach said:
Wanna spoonfeed me your link?
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he means to port one(yourself) from cyanogens work
if you are flashing your phone and ridding yourself of windows, keep in mind that donut 1.6 does not have working GPS yet, so you if that is something you use, you might want to stick with a 1.5 build.
standard ion build is nice and stable.
xrom 1.5.4 build has some nice addons (better browser, customizable launcher and home screen numbers). the new launcher can be just a touch slow, however. this is what I use.
sense UI builds (tattoo, hero types) look sweet, and can run well if tweaked just right, but I hate that sms error, drives me insane. don't know if that annoying problem has been worked out yet.
if you never use GPS, flash zen's droid themed donut 1.6, or plemen's AOSP donut, and just wait until the rootfs/initrd get updated for GPS functionality. but remember that unless you keep your resolution in 320x480 from first boot, you will not always see all market apps.
for me, I won't be using NAND until we get full GPS functionality (which will be a while, if ever); I can't live without my turn-by-turn tts gps. i don't use bluetooth much, so I would not miss that. on the upside, NAND flashing gives you a r/w system, and usb mass storage, so you must weigh the pros and cons of what you use most. it'll be while before i'm flashing because i'm married to full GPS, and I don't see that being implemented on android on the vogue for a while as it is not the priority right now.
perfect solution: donut 1.6 with full gps, with market problem fixed for 240x320, then I'm flashing my NAND in a heartbeat and donating again ($50 this time) to dzo and the gang. and you can hold me to that.
hmmm something to think about I suppose....
One of the main reasons I love Android is because there is so much free software that utilizes the GPS.... I wonder just how long it will be until someone finds the missing link...
I personally like donut (1.6). I'm not a fan of the Hero UI or the Tatoo UI, I just like standard android.
I'm using all of the latest basefiles except the zimage, which I compiled from the git repository for the vogue kernel. The rootfs is the one found on dzo's website (it's the one required to even flash to NAND).
tatnai said:
if you are flashing your phone and ridding yourself of windows, keep in mind that donut 1.6 does not have working GPS yet, so you if that is something you use, you might want to stick with a 1.5 build.
standard ion build is nice and stable.
xrom 1.5.4 build has some nice addons (better browser, customizable launcher and home screen numbers). the new launcher can be just a touch slow, however. this is what I use.
sense UI builds (tattoo, hero types) look sweet, and can run well if tweaked just right, but I hate that sms error, drives me insane. don't know if that annoying problem has been worked out yet.
if you never use GPS, flash zen's droid themed donut 1.6, or plemen's AOSP donut, and just wait until the rootfs/initrd get updated for GPS functionality. but remember that unless you keep your resolution in 320x480 from first boot, you will not always see all market apps.
for me, I won't be using NAND until we get full GPS functionality (which will be a while, if ever); I can't live without my turn-by-turn tts gps. i don't use bluetooth much, so I would not miss that. on the upside, NAND flashing gives you a r/w system, and usb mass storage, so you must weigh the pros and cons of what you use most. it'll be while before i'm flashing because i'm married to full GPS, and I don't see that being implemented on android on the vogue for a while as it is not the priority right now.
perfect solution: donut 1.6 with full gps, with market problem fixed for 240x320, then I'm flashing my NAND in a heartbeat and donating again ($50 this time) to dzo and the gang. and you can hold me to that.
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same here, bluetooth is a must for me though I don't speak on the phone without it, holding the phone is so cumbersome!
I like Zen's Droid-ION followed by Msmisson/Kb7sqi's Roger's.
Zen-droid-Donut-ION has been very smooth and I get to use it with 320 x 240 res. + with Donut, app variety in market is more.
tatnai said:
if you never use GPS, flash zen's droid themed donut 1.6, or plemen's AOSP donut, and just wait until the rootfs/initrd get updated for GPS functionality. but remember that unless you keep your resolution in 320x480 from first boot, you will not always see all market apps.
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You mean resolution in defualt.txt right? Do you have to do it before creating a google account or just as long as your signing in the initial time when setting up your device? I've changed my default.txt but even after the change when I run Haret for the first time the resolution looks like normal qvga. Maybe I am not doing something right here's my 320 x 480 default.txt prior to signing into my google account the initial time...
I'm running Windows Mobile / Haret boot /11-16-09 Basefiles
sqsh:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/gjt2wo...stem_v233.sqsh
Rootfs (polyrythmic):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...&postcount=212
your default.txt is correct for 320x480. your google account does not matter, what matters is that the first time you make a data.img with a donut build (1.6) that you boot it with resolution of 320x480 (the lcd.density actually doesn't matter) and sign in to google services and use the market at that resolution. then if you change the resolution, it will actually still work for you for a while, but after a couple days or so the market will become limited again to apps designated OK for donut with lower resolutions. i don't know of a way to go back and fix it without creating a new data.img; if you want to run in a resolution other than 320x480, you could just archive your old data image each time, boot up a new on in 320x480 and log into the market, then shut down and boot back with your old resolution and data.img and you would be good again for a little while. hopefully soon enough all the apps (or all the ones that matter) will begin to show up at 240x320, but who knows how long that will take.
So will I notice a physical difference in resolution when android boots up on my vogue to reflect the 320 x 480 resolution? Larger icons, screen cut-off, etc.? Just wanting some evidence that the market thinks I'm not QVGA.
Reddog80p said:
So will I notice a physical difference in resolution when android boots up on my vogue to reflect the 320 x 480 resolution? Larger icons, screen cut-off, etc.? Just wanting some evidence that the market thinks I'm not QVGA.
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depends what you set your lcd.density to - and lcd density of 110-120 on 240x320 will look similar to 320x480 at a density of 160. however, you should notice a slight squashed appearance at 320x480 because the aspect ratio is off, and the sreen appears just a touch fuzzy. when you boot into 320x428 or 240x320 for the first time, you will note a marked difference in the sharpness of the screen for that reason. like taking oily glasses off for the first time. you are booting from haret (not from nand) right? because the default.txt is not used when you boot from the nand.
The biggest thing I noticed with density 160 (besides the obvious blurring) is that the touchscreen is flakier (rounding / touch location -> pixel mapping issues? I haven't looked into how it's implemented yet...) when doing precise motions - for example, it's almost completely impossible to drag widgets in a Sense UI build or a stock build running with density 160 whereas a build running at native resolution is fine.
And re: the thread, Zen's Donut Droid-ION is my favorite build by far - fast, dead stable, reliable, and not too flashy.
He said over at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5137740&postcount=105 that he's going to have a working Eclair with radio and GPS hopefully today - I'm really excited for that.
Bump.
Any others out there?!!!
been running plemen's Donut AOSP, I must say it is even faster than dzo's droid donut. my new fav.
tatnai said:
been running plemen's Donut AOSP, I must say it is even faster than dzo's droid donut. my new fav.
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Yes, do try Plemen's Donut AOSP. It is very fast and responsive. Most users switch away though due to screen lock issues and stuff. There is a fix and it is to restart your phone a few times and log into google your 2nd. Hope that helps
hi i want to use android on my phone but i have truble choosing, there are just
so many developments!!!
so my question is which one is the best?
i am using the camera the games calling and music
so which one is the best for me?
Because you are using the camera, the Desire HD and Z builds are out for the time being so ignore those.
That leaves you with the choice between Sense and Non-Sense (stock) versions, which only you can decide. This will be a subjective decision anyway as my choices might not reflect what you like in a build.
I would recommend any of MdeeJay's builds as he seems to be the dev that keeps them the most up-to-date and fixes bugs regularly, plus his kernel is reportedly very good.
Personally I use ShubCraft2.0 but this has recently been discontinued along with a number of other builds meaning they will no longer be updated. However, I've heard good things about the following:
NexusHD2-FRG83 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=793924) which is a stock build based off the Nexus One branch
MDJ FroYo Sense Revolution (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=823491) which is as the name suggests a Sense based build.
It's all down to personal taste which you prefer.
There is no "best"... try a bunch and see which you like best.
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
do try mccm
Problems Installing Android
I copied the Mdeejay_FroYo_Sense_v._2.3_Clean_#15 files to my SD card and started CLRCAD and haret.
All I get is very small text on the upper left of my screen nothing else happens
what am I doing wrong.
HTC HD2
Burgum said:
I copied the Mdeejay_FroYo_Sense_v._2.3_Clean_#15 files to my SD card and started CLRCAD and haret.
All I get is very small text on the upper left of my screen nothing else happens
what am I doing wrong.
HTC HD2
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Make sure your startup text is pointing to the Android folder,,, or whatever it is named. That could be the problem.
Burgum said:
I copied the Mdeejay_FroYo_Sense_v._2.3_Clean_#15 files to my SD card and started CLRCAD and haret.
All I get is very small text on the upper left of my screen nothing else happens
what am I doing wrong.
HTC HD2
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by " nothing else happens " you mean the screen goes black or it sticks on the 4 lines text ?
if it goes black, then you have to flash another radio, if it stick then you will just have to remove battery and try again
I tried all of MDJ android builds, in addition to few others, and i am stuck between MDJ FroYo Sense Clean and MDJ Froyo HD:
the FroYo HD has the best interface, the latest Sense with many improvements on the older Desire android (Scenes, Skins, HTC Sense.com, Bluetooth transfer, and other stuff), but the camera is not working, while MDJ Sense Clean 2.3 has the camera working.
When the HD rom can suppor the camera, it will be the best IMHO...
This is one of the most stable roms i have found with working camera and long battery life(as long as you use the right settings).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=820696
[TMOUS? don't bother reading it.. it's for EU Version with 512mb]
AND THERE IS IT!!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=903002
I've been using for quite a while DHD builds and I really like them.
I've tried quite a lot of NAND builds, but the SD builds still better in terms of stability and it suits most the "daily-use" kinda of build.
[that's my personal opinion.. not relevant. the important bit is below]
On EU HD2 there's 512mb of NAND, not enough to put the whole DHD stock build, unfortunately. Few devs found few work around: either by compress it or put the data.img on the SD card.
IMO both these two solution slows down the entire build, especially in the second where also data corruption is introduced.
So I'm requesting a build where only the necessary is cooked in.
These are apps not really useful imo; therefore they should be removed [including their widget]:
-Adobe reader (install from the market if you need it)
-Amazon MP3
-Barcode Scanner (used only 2-3 times)
-Car Panel (Use software like co-pilot & navigon)
[gmail should be cooked in]
-Google Search (just use the browser)
-HTC likes (completely useless)
-Latitude
-G Maps (again, use co-pilot or navigon instead)
-News
-News and Weather (completely useless)
-Quickoffice (old version, install from market if you need it)
-Soundhound (???)
-Twitter (I use another app)
-Facebook (install from market if you need it)
-Teeter (???)
-Stocks
[g talk should be cooked in]
-ebook stuff (doesn't work yet lol)
-Youtube (as the browser has flash, why would you use it? )
-Transfer data
Stuff within the build:
- Skins (only one [I would like Slate]. download the others from HTC hub)
- Only one light wallpaper
- No notification sound; download what you like from htc hub
- No live wallpaper, no even to show to your iPhone-fan friend.
- No boot animation
Program I think should be cooked as they are essential
-SU
SetCPU http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=505419
support the devs
[Any other suggestion will be appreciated.]
Again, this is just me. But I think quite a few people shares my idea.
As a really light build, anyone could enjoy it personalizing as they want.
Also it should be set "SD card" as the default location for installing apps
I don't know if this is gonna work in any way. I hope it will though.
However I do remember that the space left in WinMo with cooked roms wasn't that much.. like 140mb (correct me if I'm wrong.. such a long time I don't use it).
So I'm aiming to have around 100 - 150mb of space. I think it's enough, considering that a large amount of apps will go to the SD.
We can get more than 150mb apparently. AWESOME!!!
Now I'm kindly ask if any dev around could answer my request.
2 people are working on it atm; each is making their own version
Want to join in?
Thank you
EDIT:
Few suggest that the data could be saved on a ext4 partition on the SD card.
What is the difference between data.img and a ext4 partition? Advantages | Disadvantages
How could you create it under Win7 x64?
512mb is enough for system files. good.
no more ext4
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All non european languages could be removed to gain further space I.e. Chinese, Japanese.
Also the related keyboard's dictionaries.
How about only English?
As a TMOUS HD2 user, I'd like to see a Desire HD/Z build that is 100% stock theme with no squashing or stripping of apps. I would like my phone to look and work like a Desire HD would, right after taking it out of the box(minus the obvious things... 720P recording, 8mp camera... etc...).
Tried to make this myself based on m-deejay's Desire HD revolution 2.1 ROM but failed epically. Would love to see one of our highly esteemed Android chef's make this happen.
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As a TMOUS HD2 user, I'd like to see a Desire HD/Z build that is 100% stock theme with no squashing or stripping of apps. I would like my phone to look and work like a Desire HD would, right after taking it out of the box(minus the obvious things... 720P recording, 8mp camera... etc...).
Tried to make this myself based on m-deejay's Desire HD revolution 2.1 ROM but failed epically. Would love to see one of our highly esteemed Android chef's make this happen.
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why would you like to have a stock DHD with all the boatware that only slows down Android?
hrockh said:
I've been using for quite a while DHD builds and I really like them.
I've tried quite a lot of NAND builds, but the SD builds still better in terms of stability and it suits most the "daily-use" kinda of build.
On EU HD2 there's 512mb of nand, not enough to put the whole DHD stock build, unfortunately. Few devs found few work around: either by compress it or put the data.img on the SD card.
IMO both these two solution slows down the entire build, especially in the second where also data corruption is introduced.
So I'm requesting a build where only the necessary is cooked in.
These are apps not really useful imo; therefore they should be removed [including their widget]:
-Adobe reader (install from the market if you need it)
-Amazon MP3
-Barcode Scanner (used only 2-3 times)
-Car Panel (Use software like co-pilot & navigon)
-GMail (don't use gmail. .apk easily findable in google)
-Google Search (just use the browser)
-HTC likes (completely useless)
-Latitude
-G Maps (again, use co-pilot or navigon instead)
-News
-News and Weather (completely useless)
-Quickoffice (old version, install from market if you need it)
-Soundhound (???)
-Twitter (I use another app)
-Facebook (install from market if you need it)
-Teeter (???)
-Stocks
-G talk (i use skype, again install from market if you need it)
-ebook stuff (doesn't work yet lol)
-Youtube (as the browser has flash, why would you use it? )
-Transfer data
Stuff within the build:
-Skins (only one [I would like Slate]. download the others from HTC hub)
-only one light wallpaper
-No notification sound; download what you like from htc hub
Program I think should be cooked as they are essential
-SetCPU
-SU
-XDA
[Any other suggestion will be appreciated.]
Again, this is just me. But I think quite a few people shares my idea.
As a really light build, anyone could enjoy it personalizing as they want.
Also it should be set "SD card" as the default location for installing apps
I don't know if this is gonna work in any way. I hope it will though.
However I do remember that the space left in WinMo with cooked roms wasn't that much.. like 140mb (correct me if I'm wrong.. such a long time I don't use it).
So I'm aiming to have around 100 - 150mb of space. I think it's enough, considering that a large amount of apps will go to the SD.
Now I'm kindly ask if any dev around could answer my request.
Thank you
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I should simply say: cook the apps, which are not downloadable.
By the way I have a european HD2, have 81 apps (a lot moved to SD) and still 65 MB internernal storage free, and everything working fine.
I need a kitchen for all the various ROMs the geniuses at xda have created with detailed instructions on how to build one's own image as it was very eas, for me at least, with Windows Mobile but with Linux, my skills are virtually non-existant. Anyone?
+ 1 for this, something like a superlight-stock ROM would be much appreciated
hrockh said:
why would you like to have a stock DHD with all the boatware that only slows down Android?
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I prefer to be given the choice to remove apps I don't want rather than have them removed ahead of time and not being given the choice. "System App Remover" from Market is the app I use for this.
Ηey corha which nand rom do u use? the 1st one from cottula or another one ?
Have you tried?
Have you tried:
[31 DEC] gauner1986's HD-FI 0.3 (Desire HD based) [KERNEL = my own ] ?
Highly Recommended ROM!
Almost as you asking for....
Enjoy!
come on guys,don,t leave me out of this conversation.i want this special rom also
dharvey4651 said:
As a TMOUS HD2 user, I'd like to see a Desire HD/Z build that is 100% stock theme with no squashing or stripping of apps. I would like my phone to look and work like a Desire HD would, right after taking it out of the box(minus the obvious things... 720P recording, 8mp camera... etc...).
Tried to make this myself based on m-deejay's Desire HD revolution 2.1 ROM but failed epically. Would love to see one of our highly esteemed Android chef's make this happen.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=898708
Just use titanium backup in chuck norris mode to remove all apps and stuff but its still too slow i love dhd sense but cm roms are runnig very quick and are very customizable and with fancy weather widget and launcher pro it looks also good, give a try
Sent from my FutureShocks HD2 MIUI using XDA App
I actually want the opposite a full working DHD Rom with everything except outsider apps like soundhound, I just bought the hd2 to give it to my wife as an alternative to DHD
there is already a solution for this, the classic desire Rom RCmixHD comes in two solutions both very good
first is splitting the Rom in two, main stuff on internal and rest like apps are installed into a2sd+ ext
second solution is data2sd running on ext partition this gives a nice boost to io speed with less risks of delete or corruption
I'm actually surprised no one copied this yet by the way gauner v0.2 runs pretty good compared to v0.3 where the extra squashing has broke it, however even v0.2 has some missing stuff like voice commands in the HTC keyboard
CorHaa said:
I should simply say: cook the apps, which are not downloadable.
By the way I have a european HD2, have 81 apps (a lot moved to SD) and still 65 MB internernal storage free, and everything working fine.
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which build are you using atm?
dharvey4651 said:
I prefer to be given the choice to remove apps I don't want rather than have them removed ahead of time and not being given the choice. "System App Remover" from Market is the app I use for this.
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fair enough.. personally still can't get your point.
try this out; still developing
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=894965
TheAgent1982 said:
Have you tried:
[31 DEC] gauner1986's HD-FI 0.3 (Desire HD based) [KERNEL = my own ] ?
Highly Recommended ROM!
Almost as you asking for....
Enjoy!
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it is compressed I'm trying to avoid that
but thanks
MDJ's Revolution HD NAND was released on the 2nd of Jan and has a version where all the unrequired crap is taken out to free up storage. I ran it for a few days with no issues.
I'm sure HD builds will pop up over the next few days using ext partition on SD for data storage.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=898708
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This is the 100% original build with no apps removed right? As it would be out of the box if it were a Desire Z?
I don't want a ROM that has had anything removed - I want it original.
Your thread doesn't say that anything has been removed but I want to clarify this before I wipe my phone again and install something different.
It's not possible. There isn't enough space available on the Euro HD2 to store everything in NAND.
You'll have to wait until someone released an HD build which installs all of the extras on the EXT partition on SD at first boot. Or use one fo teh builds that comes with a seperate data.img which you have to store on a FAT32 partition on SD.
It's a physical limitation of the hardware.
PS. Epic thread hijack dharvey!
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It's not possible. There isn't enough space available on the Euro HD2 to store everything in NAND.
You'll have to wait until someone released an HD build which installs all of the extras on the EXT partition on SD at first boot. Or use one fo teh builds that comes with a seperate data.img which you have to store on a FAT32 partition on SD.
It's a physical limitation of the hardware.
PS. Epic thread hijack dharvey!
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the guy you are referring to is a TMOUS. so he should be fine.
he's quite OT.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=898708
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Highly Recommanded ! For daily use! Works flawlessly...
ok i know the Z is 99% same, but it has bigger font size which is really not impressive on 4.3inch like the DHD fonts dpi
plus the keyboard has no arrows
The DHD rom is really smart work from htc (never thought i would say that)
this is Robocik rom from the desire forums http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=789830
There are two versions of the rom, if you want stable and fast version choose Old Fasion version.
The Data2ext version is still new and can be changed and updated couple of times before we get it right, so this version is for those who dont are afraid of the mighty wipe hehe *New
The RCMixHD v0.14 D2EXT uses data2ext script, so the ext partition will be your internal storage, so use a size of your ext partition as big as you are gonna need. I am using EXT2 2GB class4 Sdcard, everything is working super.
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we will have to wait for builds that use an ext partition, fingers corssed who ever builds it will keep it purely stock like robocik did
hI,
First of al sorry if quetions have been asked before, I coud not find all answers, and sometimes contradictions.
I am new to NAND. Familiar with Android and WinMo.
I really love my HD2.
Therefor I am wondering about a few things:
- Is it poible to revert to WinMo (eg for guarantee/repair), I read several times it is not posible.
- Battery consumption in Android NAND: Better or worse compared to WinMo?
- Speed on NAND: Better or worse compared to Android on SD?
- Boot time: Comparable to SD or faster (Like factory Desire?)
- Are all Desire sense functions working?
eg1: Desire HD has possibility to ring phone when set to quit via PC, i this posible with Desire HD build on HD2?
eg2: Silence ring by turning phone
- Is there sync software (like with Sony Ericson Xperia 10i) like activesync/mobile center?
Finaly:
Which is the best Desire HD including sense buid around? (Most stable, Longest battery life)
- Yes it is possible to revert back, just people rush into things and don't read so they aren't knowledgeable of their device
- Iunno, considering i have not used winmo since android came out. Well for standby in andoird, 6 hours took off 3% for me
- I'd say it depends on your build. If you're using a sense build, then I feel NAND is faster than SD builds, atleast for desire HD builds. In non sense, it's the same speed
- I wouldn't know if boot time is comparable to an android device as I have never touched one before. To sd, I wouldn't say there's a notable difference
- Yes (except 720p recording, which we all know doesn't work with android on our phones as of yet)
- HTC sync, however I don't know how efficient it is as I've never used it.
There is no best of anything.
- Is it poible to revert to WinMo (eg for guarantee/repair), I read several times it is not posible.
It is possible. I haven't done it but every where I go it says possible. However like flashing winmo rom there is always a certain level of risk.
- Battery consumption in Android NAND: Better or worse compared to WinMo?
Worse. It's close but def worse than winmo.
- Speed on NAND: Better or worse compared to Android on SD?
Didn't try SD android that much, but nand android is FAST.
- Boot time: Comparable to SD or faster (Like factory Desire?)
Don't know. But I used nexus froyo build, sometimes it boots in <20s.
- Are all Desire sense functions working?
eg1: Desire HD has possibility to ring phone when set to quit via PC, i this posible with Desire HD build on HD2?
eg2: Silence ring by turning phone
Don't use sense build.
- Is there sync software (like with Sony Ericson Xperia 10i) like activesync/mobile center?
No need, just copy/paste.
Thanks all for your replies.
I am running Android from BAND now for a couple of days, and I must say that a lot of worries were not needed.
Doing a lot by GGD, I. Missed task sync with Outlook/exchange. I got around that.
Now for the answers in my opinion:
Speed, compared to SD: Faster if one leaves phone to settle for a few minutes after boot. faster than WinMo.
Battery life: With use of advanced taller I believe better, at least comparable to WinMo.
Market offers lots of replacements for my WinMo software, most of the time even surpassing in functionality and mostly for free or very little.
I already flashed back to WinMo, because. I forgot to deactivate CoPilot. Now using my WinMo licence on Android.
Boot is faster, comparable to stock phone, but needs to settle for a few minutes for max performance.
When I chose HD2, I chose it for WinMo, loving the possibility to experiment with Android. Now I am glad I can run Android from NAND.
My wife just got SonyEricson Xperia X10i. Sexy phone (in white). Very happy with Android.
Only disadvantages found on both phones is the missing integration for Exchange. There array a lot of (quite expensive) third party apps, but Google dropped a vital issue by not implementing exchange integration, especially notes and tasks to the Android calendar.
The third party software makes push mail and sending possible, but still separate from Android calendar and contacts. Fix that Google, and Android is A++, now just A.
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Go to setting then account and sync, choose add new account then you'll are the possibility of adding exchange account.
I'm running nexus froyo.
Wilco said:
Thanks all for your replies.
I am running Android from BAND now for a couple of days, and I must say that a lot of worries were not needed.
Doing a lot by GGD, I. Missed task sync with Outlook/exchange. I got around that.
Now for the answers in my opinion:
Speed, compared to SD: Faster if one leaves phone to settle for a few minutes after boot. faster than WinMo.
Battery life: With use of advanced taller I believe better, at least comparable to WinMo.
Market offers lots of replacements for my WinMo software, most of the time even surpassing in functionality and mostly for free or very little.
I already flashed back to WinMo, because. I forgot to deactivate CoPilot. Now using my WinMo licence on Android.
Boot is faster, comparable to stock phone, but needs to settle for a few minutes for max performance.
When I chose HD2, I chose it for WinMo, loving the possibility to experiment with Android. Now I am glad I can run Android from NAND.
My wife just got SonyEricson Xperia X10i. Sexy phone (in white). Very happy with Android.
Only disadvantages found on both phones is the missing integration for Exchange. There array a lot of (quite expensive) third party apps, but Google dropped a vital issue by not implementing exchange integration, especially notes and tasks to the Android calendar.
The third party software makes push mail and sending possible, but still separate from Android calendar and contacts. Fix that Google, and Android is A++, now just A.
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Does Froyo sync tasks and notes too?
Currently I am running desire HD which is Android 2.2
Looking at the problem I encountered, the sync still is not possible.
Using Moxier or touchdown, contacts end up in different db than Android db. Setting up two applications sending the same data is imo principally wrong. (nitpickin) Also for battery life having two sync costs more mA......
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Not sure to understand how you want to sync.
If exchange via Internet... I can't help.
If ou talk about software to sync with your laptop I just found a link (and again advertisement for my post )
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=951567
If you use a sense build, HTC Sense is great (much better than the WM one).
Both solutions are free.
Hi U all !
I just would like to know why this huge difference in performance between any GingerBread rom and any htc sense rom...
I love stock roms but I use my phone also for my work, and htc mail / dialer functions (groups and GAL GAL GAL) are a MUST for me...
All sense roms I have tried are extremely slow and totally useless in my opinion.. Why ?? All GingerBread I have tried are like 20x (or even more) faster than sense roms... is like using windows 7 with a x86486 compared with a i7....
I also need tomtom so for me nand is not an option...
Is there any fast and actual (bugless) sense rom ?? And when I say fast i mean compared with gingerbread roms... not with other slow roms...
Any news for a gingerbread with htc sense ?
I have tried all sense roms that exists here in XDA .
Any way to install htc mail / dialer in gingerbread ? Any other native alternative ?
Functions I missed in stock dialer / mail:
* Dialer:
- T9 phone contact search
- Groups
- GAL search (Global address list)
* Mail:
- Improved tasks and calendar entries integration
- Send a mail to multiple destinations using GAL
- Press in a GAL contact name (inside a mail) and be able to see more info (GAL info)
I miss more things... but these are really important for me...
Any idea / help ??
Really ty for all.
dandiest makes some awesome Sense builds(DesireZ 3.5 is great). They get most in Quadrant and 3D, but for some reason, 2.3 just feels faster. It gets less in Quadrant and benchmarks, but it feels faster. I recommend you use DesireZ 3.5 with ext4, it is by far the fastest sense build.
Hi !
First of all really ty for the answer.
I have been trying that build since first version and I try every update...
At least for me is not fast... In some moments build is ok but under just medium load it turns slow and unstable... When u try to install / update some apks for example the rom runs so slow and laggy... and "alt tab" + notifications bar is instant-respond 1 of each 30 tries... There is something in all sense roms that makes me think there is a bottleneck....
Cope / americandroid.... runs smooth under idle / medium / and full load... U can install apks and all is working great at same time.. notification bar is instant respond 100% and when u press home u go instantly to home... no matter when u press it... "Alt Tab" is also 100% instant respond...
WM + CHT sense is better and runs infinite faster than android sense.... so out of apps like whatsapp, tango and various more there is no reason to use android having a fast WM with more functionality and much faster....
I really like android but I hate to be able to have coffe between pressing a button and the next...
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Hi !
WM + CHT sense is better and runs infinite faster than android sense.... so out of apps like whatsapp, tango and various more there is no reason to use android having a fast WM with more functionality and much faster....
I really like android but I hate to be able to have coffe between pressing a button and the next...
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You are right, WM sometimes feels smoother than Android for example when you call somebody or open contacts, sms - no lag. Also when you move your phone away of your head - there is a LAG that kills me. When install apk - system lags a lot. Strange! I like Android but for daily phone calls I prefer WinMo - because no lags in phone part
Use RAM build or MOTO maxtouch 4G its fast like RAM and have features like desire hd
Yeah, sense roms is very slow. I try too nearly all sense roms and all of its laggy.
I'm now using Nand MIUI Stock (Works perfect, fast boot, not lag like Gingerbreads), I'm also trying to run SD darkstone SuperRAM Sense v0.1 (Boot AD SD in MAGLDR but everytime says Preparing SD Card and freeze, I can't solve it)
I'm also try DL Desire 3.5, DL Desire HD 1.1, DL Desire HD 2.0, AF403 DesireHD, Rafdroid HD v2.3, Stock Desire on EU HD2 v2 but everyone of this builds is laggy.
First boot great but adding google account, adding facebook and twitter accounts and phone starts syncing lag is starting.
When installing apps you can't do anyting just wait the installer.
I don't believe Quadrant Scores, because score says 1500+ but phone is useless.
MIUI Stock gets 1300+ but works great
Hi, I can completely understand your problem, before nand the best rom i used was this one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=791835 it's fast snappy and has sense... i tried about 20 builds.
Does a car drive any faster with a 300-pound man sitting inside?
Come on, if you can't live with it then get a native android with sense.
If you can't afford to buy one then live with that!
Devs are trying their best to do what they do best yet you do your whine also at your best.
"EXTREMELY slow" is an exaggeration! Besides, you are comparing it to non-sense builds. Compare one sense build to another sense build rather than sense build to a non-sense build.
Reality check, it is your choice which build you want to install. Instead of whining, why won't you cook your own rom?