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Android Builds: YOUR Favorite?

So Dzo has a thread going on flashing Android to the NAND.... SWEET!!!!!!!!!
I am going to try it out, but I want input from you all.
there are SO MANY different flavors of Android (1.5 1.6 2.0 cupcake eclair ion) and I would like to try them all for myself, but obviously this isn't realistic, so I want to know what you guys like the best?
So please... Anyone, EVERYONE.... Which build do you like best on the Vogue?!

And if you tell your favorite, please tell us as well what basefiles build, Rootfs and zImage build you use for the Version
Otherwise we must ask that again...

160bpm said:
And if you tell your favorite, please tell us as well what basefiles build, Rootfs and zImage build you use for the Version
Otherwise we must ask that again...
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Precisely bpm.

Ion 1.5 for its speed and stability.
Using latest basefiles.

I recommend a Donut build based on cyanogens work. He's added alot more features to the aosp making it more stable and including some of the best developments including the updated contacts and phone apps etc.

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I recommend a Donut build based on cyanogens work. He's added alot more features to the aosp making it more stable and including some of the best developments including the updated contacts and phone apps etc.
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Wanna spoonfeed me your link?

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Wanna spoonfeed me your link?
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he means to port one(yourself) from cyanogens work

if you are flashing your phone and ridding yourself of windows, keep in mind that donut 1.6 does not have working GPS yet, so you if that is something you use, you might want to stick with a 1.5 build.
standard ion build is nice and stable.
xrom 1.5.4 build has some nice addons (better browser, customizable launcher and home screen numbers). the new launcher can be just a touch slow, however. this is what I use.
sense UI builds (tattoo, hero types) look sweet, and can run well if tweaked just right, but I hate that sms error, drives me insane. don't know if that annoying problem has been worked out yet.
if you never use GPS, flash zen's droid themed donut 1.6, or plemen's AOSP donut, and just wait until the rootfs/initrd get updated for GPS functionality. but remember that unless you keep your resolution in 320x480 from first boot, you will not always see all market apps.
for me, I won't be using NAND until we get full GPS functionality (which will be a while, if ever); I can't live without my turn-by-turn tts gps. i don't use bluetooth much, so I would not miss that. on the upside, NAND flashing gives you a r/w system, and usb mass storage, so you must weigh the pros and cons of what you use most. it'll be while before i'm flashing because i'm married to full GPS, and I don't see that being implemented on android on the vogue for a while as it is not the priority right now.
perfect solution: donut 1.6 with full gps, with market problem fixed for 240x320, then I'm flashing my NAND in a heartbeat and donating again ($50 this time) to dzo and the gang. and you can hold me to that.

hmmm something to think about I suppose....
One of the main reasons I love Android is because there is so much free software that utilizes the GPS.... I wonder just how long it will be until someone finds the missing link...

I personally like donut (1.6). I'm not a fan of the Hero UI or the Tatoo UI, I just like standard android.
I'm using all of the latest basefiles except the zimage, which I compiled from the git repository for the vogue kernel. The rootfs is the one found on dzo's website (it's the one required to even flash to NAND).

tatnai said:
if you are flashing your phone and ridding yourself of windows, keep in mind that donut 1.6 does not have working GPS yet, so you if that is something you use, you might want to stick with a 1.5 build.
standard ion build is nice and stable.
xrom 1.5.4 build has some nice addons (better browser, customizable launcher and home screen numbers). the new launcher can be just a touch slow, however. this is what I use.
sense UI builds (tattoo, hero types) look sweet, and can run well if tweaked just right, but I hate that sms error, drives me insane. don't know if that annoying problem has been worked out yet.
if you never use GPS, flash zen's droid themed donut 1.6, or plemen's AOSP donut, and just wait until the rootfs/initrd get updated for GPS functionality. but remember that unless you keep your resolution in 320x480 from first boot, you will not always see all market apps.
for me, I won't be using NAND until we get full GPS functionality (which will be a while, if ever); I can't live without my turn-by-turn tts gps. i don't use bluetooth much, so I would not miss that. on the upside, NAND flashing gives you a r/w system, and usb mass storage, so you must weigh the pros and cons of what you use most. it'll be while before i'm flashing because i'm married to full GPS, and I don't see that being implemented on android on the vogue for a while as it is not the priority right now.
perfect solution: donut 1.6 with full gps, with market problem fixed for 240x320, then I'm flashing my NAND in a heartbeat and donating again ($50 this time) to dzo and the gang. and you can hold me to that.
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same here, bluetooth is a must for me though I don't speak on the phone without it, holding the phone is so cumbersome!

I like Zen's Droid-ION followed by Msmisson/Kb7sqi's Roger's.
Zen-droid-Donut-ION has been very smooth and I get to use it with 320 x 240 res. + with Donut, app variety in market is more.

tatnai said:
if you never use GPS, flash zen's droid themed donut 1.6, or plemen's AOSP donut, and just wait until the rootfs/initrd get updated for GPS functionality. but remember that unless you keep your resolution in 320x480 from first boot, you will not always see all market apps.
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You mean resolution in defualt.txt right? Do you have to do it before creating a google account or just as long as your signing in the initial time when setting up your device? I've changed my default.txt but even after the change when I run Haret for the first time the resolution looks like normal qvga. Maybe I am not doing something right here's my 320 x 480 default.txt prior to signing into my google account the initial time...
I'm running Windows Mobile / Haret boot /11-16-09 Basefiles
sqsh:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/gjt2wo...stem_v233.sqsh
Rootfs (polyrythmic):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...&postcount=212

your default.txt is correct for 320x480. your google account does not matter, what matters is that the first time you make a data.img with a donut build (1.6) that you boot it with resolution of 320x480 (the lcd.density actually doesn't matter) and sign in to google services and use the market at that resolution. then if you change the resolution, it will actually still work for you for a while, but after a couple days or so the market will become limited again to apps designated OK for donut with lower resolutions. i don't know of a way to go back and fix it without creating a new data.img; if you want to run in a resolution other than 320x480, you could just archive your old data image each time, boot up a new on in 320x480 and log into the market, then shut down and boot back with your old resolution and data.img and you would be good again for a little while. hopefully soon enough all the apps (or all the ones that matter) will begin to show up at 240x320, but who knows how long that will take.

So will I notice a physical difference in resolution when android boots up on my vogue to reflect the 320 x 480 resolution? Larger icons, screen cut-off, etc.? Just wanting some evidence that the market thinks I'm not QVGA.

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So will I notice a physical difference in resolution when android boots up on my vogue to reflect the 320 x 480 resolution? Larger icons, screen cut-off, etc.? Just wanting some evidence that the market thinks I'm not QVGA.
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depends what you set your lcd.density to - and lcd density of 110-120 on 240x320 will look similar to 320x480 at a density of 160. however, you should notice a slight squashed appearance at 320x480 because the aspect ratio is off, and the sreen appears just a touch fuzzy. when you boot into 320x428 or 240x320 for the first time, you will note a marked difference in the sharpness of the screen for that reason. like taking oily glasses off for the first time. you are booting from haret (not from nand) right? because the default.txt is not used when you boot from the nand.

The biggest thing I noticed with density 160 (besides the obvious blurring) is that the touchscreen is flakier (rounding / touch location -> pixel mapping issues? I haven't looked into how it's implemented yet...) when doing precise motions - for example, it's almost completely impossible to drag widgets in a Sense UI build or a stock build running with density 160 whereas a build running at native resolution is fine.
And re: the thread, Zen's Donut Droid-ION is my favorite build by far - fast, dead stable, reliable, and not too flashy.
He said over at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5137740&postcount=105 that he's going to have a working Eclair with radio and GPS hopefully today - I'm really excited for that.

Bump.
Any others out there?!!!

been running plemen's Donut AOSP, I must say it is even faster than dzo's droid donut. my new fav.

tatnai said:
been running plemen's Donut AOSP, I must say it is even faster than dzo's droid donut. my new fav.
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Yes, do try Plemen's Donut AOSP. It is very fast and responsive. Most users switch away though due to screen lock issues and stuff. There is a fix and it is to restart your phone a few times and log into google your 2nd. Hope that helps

Just want my 32B to be as fast as possible. What to do?

So, I'm running Cyanogenmod 4.2.15.1 but I always think it's a bit slow. Maybe it's all the widgets, installed apps or often having mp3's playing in the background but I can't help thinking that the original ROM was much faster.
What can I do to improve speed?
I'm running TasKiller but that alone doesn't really speed things up enough.
For music, I'm using Meridian player, but perhaps there's a faster player out there?
Is it worth installing any of the 2.1 ROMs or should I wait for the official release or is that even likely to be slower than Cyanogenmod?

A couple of things you can do. You can use an application called setCPU which is for root users. It allows you to modify how the phone is run e.g. it can run from 128MHz to 528MHz depending on your preference. 528 will give you the highest performance. There is a min and max for them, and I have 384 to 528 usually.
Instead of taskiller, I use advanced task manager. Kill some processes as well. I like it better at least.
My recommendation is use superD or FastTest. They are, in my opinion, the fastest ROMs out there. A lot of Eclair ROMs are stable as well, but not as fast as the donut ROMs.

Thanks.
I've always thought that setCPU didn't make a difference, cause it's Magic is already running at max CPU in most ROMs. If not, how come it's mentioned so rarely around here? Surely it should be one of the most popular apps?
I've never heard of Super D or FastTest til you mentioned them. Might be worth a shot, although I'll have to admit I'd prefer not changing ROM all the time. When I first got the phone I tried loads of Sense ROMs but they all seemed either unstable or slow, or both. I think I'll read up a bit more on SuperD before having a go.

dont really have any other info on your setup except its a 32B....why not give us some more info in your signature, like:
what size and class SD card you have
whether you have swap enabled
whether you have compcache enabled
whether your sdcard is partitioned, and how
IMHO u dont need setcpu, its already written in to CM for the cpu to be 528-384
you could try:
JIT http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=637419
the swap userinit.sh http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5342507&postcount=577
and the lowmemory killer minfree approach (which i prefer instead of "task-killers" which are just another app running) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=622666
and of course, the all important 10 MB RAM Hack http://www.absolutelyandroid.com/10mb-ram-hack-for-cyanogenmod-version-4-2-15/
CM should be nice and fast for you on a 32B, best one I've found so far

"what size and class SD card you have
whether you have swap enabled
whether you have compcache enabled
whether your sdcard is partitioned, and how"
SD card is class 4, 8 GB I think.
Yes, swap enabled. Can't remember the exact details regarding how the SD is partioned. Anyway to check that?
Don't think I've got compcache enabled. As a matter of fact, I've never heard that term before.
That 10 MB hack sounds interesting. I'll give that a shot.

I actually use setCPU profiles to save battery as well. When the screen is turned off, I have it set for almost minimum.
SuperD and FastTest have 10MB RAM hack versions so you don't need to install it on your own I don't thnk JIT hack is necessary for these ROMs anyways.

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So, I'm running Cyanogenmod 4.2.15.1 but I always think it's a bit slow. Maybe it's all the widgets, installed apps or often having mp3's playing in the background but I can't help thinking that the original ROM was much faster.
What can I do to improve speed?
I'm running TasKiller but that alone doesn't really speed things up enough.
For music, I'm using Meridian player, but perhaps there's a faster player out there?
Is it worth installing any of the 2.1 ROMs or should I wait for the official release or is that even likely to be slower than Cyanogenmod?
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I got this just do as I do on my magic
Cyanogen is good for tons of features & I respect Steve (the ROM developer) for the ROM but for full speed & stability on a 32B Magic I suggest going by my signature as a guide.
I'm using Meridian player also & find it the best but Mixzing or Tunewiki is faster Mixzing has a little more then Tunewiki though but Meridian player is the best overall for the features.
OK in regards to ROMS, flash a new one all this talk of setcpu & stuff merely provides a quick fix but doesn't help in the long run (at least in my experience on a 32B Magic).
In fact here...
Download Dwang 1.17.1 - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=567023
Add style & download Pays Black Elegance Theme 1.1 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=608412
Backup your apps & stuff & do a nandroid just to be safe.
Now proceed to enter recovery like your about to flash a ROM (as soon you will be ) wipe all that can be wiped (use Amon_RA Recovery for that) & flash Dwang like you did Cyanogen
Load it up (first start up is the longest), set up & when you hit the home screen power off your Magic & then switch it on into recovery like you are gonna flash a ROM (there it is again).
Flash Pays Black Elegance 1.1 Theme (NO WIPE!!) just flash over Dwang once that is done reboot & then try it for a week & report back here with your verdict
This is what I'm using & have been for over 2months now & I don't see me switching anytime soon as I can't find anything that is éclair that is like this ROM.
YES its 1.6 but it is super sweet for a 1.6 & personally for me it beats those 2.1 ROMs (which are good don't get me wrong but they ain't no Dwang)
ROM Stats
121 Apps installed
15-25sec wait on home screen load at times but not always & that is only cause I use like 12 widgets & filled 4 of the 5 screens with icons to applications.
10MB Hack is on this so 3D Games are a little laggy otherwise overall the best ROM i have used & only 1 random reboot but I kinda caused that running a whole heap of stuff like 30 processes at once haha.
Anyway let me know your verdict I hope my tip helps!

From my experience, super d 1.10.2 was, by far the fastest rom i've ever, used i havent messed with swap or compcache, but super d truly gave me that wow factor when it came to my phone, only downside is that it sorta ate my battery real quick, and i changed back to 1.9.3 wesgarner kernel, which is pretty quick too ...

Use Dwang 1.17.1, buy CacheMate from Market and clear your cache weekly.
This is the fastest I can get my 32B to run. I've tried Super D and CM, they are slower in my opinion. Dwang includes 32Mb compcache by default which seems to be the sweet spot. I've never played around with swap on SD card.
I use the default music player with Pure Music Widget. I used to use some other music player with "genius-like" functionality and all that rubbish but found it to be too slow for my liking.
Make sure you do the build.prop edits for HSPA as per this thread.

[UPDATED 17/01/2011] [Collection] The Perfect Hero Setup (New Market/Keyboard/Kernel)

Thread updated 17/01/2011 (d/m/y) to include FlyKernel 12a and a download for AngryBirds 1.3.5 for those who needed it. thread has also been cleaned up and old content removed. Instructions have been updated accordingly. Please let me know of any bugs or tweaks that need to be made.
Install for fully working Android Gingerbread Keyboard and newest Market at the bottom of this post!
This is a collection of packages that can be found around these forums that I believe amounts to the perfect Hero Setup. I am NOT a developer (although I have been known to make some themes and do some graphics work in the past), and I do not claim to have created any of this content. Instead what I am bringing you is a kind of gathering of the choicest picks from the Hero development forums, as well as the CyanogenMod 6.1 Final base. Most of this post is entirely optional, so this will allow you to build your own device, based on your preferences. Leave out things you feel you do not want, or add in extra steps if you feel you need them. Either way this will allow granular control of your Hero, for you to set it up just the way you want.
If nothing else this should be treated as a learning experience, if however you are unsure, and the post below looks a little daunting, you should consider flashing Floyo (created by the very talented erasmux) which is a complete packaged ROM. A lot of the content here has been taken from offerings that he has made available.
I take no responsibility for you destroying your phone. But for ME, my Hero is now the fastest it has ever been, with much better signal (and hugely faster browsing speed) with a theme I really love. So, presuming your Hero is already rooted, do a FULL wipe of everything, and then:
1) Flash Cyanogen Mod 6.1 FINAL in recovery (no need to reboot yet).
2) Flash Cyanogen Google Apps Addon.
3) Reboot your phone, log in and go through the initial setup. Once this is completed, reboot into recovery again.
4) (UPDATED) Flash Flykernel 12a (HUGE thanks to erasmux, this kernel is amazing). The version linked here is the one I have found to work best with this particular Hero setup (352-576, as such this is not overclocked, but performs exceptionally on my hero and doesn't have the annoying wake up issue, info on how to rename the file to overclock the kernel can be found at the erasmux flykernal post if you wish to do so). NOTE: Do NOT use the "-noatime" switch as this caused reboot loops for me in CM6.1.
5) Flash this notifications fix (provided by erasmux) which should fix some slightly hinky notification issues (jogball etc). This should now not be required with the newest Cyanogen build, I will do more testing and completely remove this section if this is confirmed.
6) Boot phone and let it get to the homescreen.
7) Reboot into recovery for the final time.
8) Flash The Latest Radio from this thread.
9) Reboot the phone (this may take a while after the radio installation).
OPTIONAL SETTINGS!
10) If you like using the HTC_IME mod, you can install it by manually installing the Clicker and then THIS version of the HTC_IME mod created using the AMAZING theming tool provided by gIMpSTa. I have created a theme that suits the feel of this CM6.1 based ROM using his tool, and it is working perfectly on my phone.
11) Enable JIT by going in to Settings > CyanogenMod Settings > Performance Settings > TICK "Use JIT" - And then reboot your phone (You can turn this off if you have issues with it turned on). In the latest Cyanogen 6.1 FINAL JIT is working perfectly, so unlike with RC1, I would now recommend having this turned ON!.
12) If you have issues fixing GPS sats, or if GPS does not update correctly when using it to navigate etc then you can try flashing THIS FIX (GPS libraries taken from FroydVillain and provided by erasmux as a fix for his Floyo ROM). If you are having issues actually fixing satellites you can also try flashing either the Europe, US or Asia sat-packs which can help GPS lock speed in your continent (if everything is already fine, you might want to avoid flashing these). Personally, I DO NOT use GPS on my device, so I can't comment on how well any of this works, but erasmux really knows his stuff, so I'm sure it will work if you are having problems.
13) CM6.1 comes with the NEW (official) Apps2SD built-in. However, the app needs to support this method or it will not allow you to move the app to the SD card. For those of you that prefer to use the OLD STYLE Apps2SD you can download it and flash it separately to enable this feature on this build of CyanogenMod.
That's the main setup sorted. You MAY have an issue with the Market following the radio installation (I did). If this happens, follow the instructions in this thread, the first fix (clearing the data) worked for me.
OK! Now on to apps. There are a few apps that really are a must if you want your Hero to both look and feel smooth as silk. So head over to the market, and download the following:
1) LanucherPro (Cyanogen comes with ADW, but I MUCH prefer LauncherPro). I use the XTG mod created by signals23 which has much more attractive widgets (if you have purchased the LP-Plus edition (I strongly recommend you do). You can, of course, use ANY homescreen, but LP is definitely my choice for beauty and speed. I actually DELETED ADW using: adb shell - rm /system/app/ADWLauncher.apk once I had LauncherPro installed, so it was no longer on the phone at all.
2) Beautiful Widgets - You have to pay for this, but trust me, it is absolutely worth the small amount of money. Once you have it, you can install any clock theme you like, such as SwirlClock made by yours truly
3) SMS Popup. Seriously, this app is amazing. Go into the default messages app, and turn off notifications. then head into the SMS Popup settings, and go into additional settings, turn ON "Quick Reply" and turn OFF "Screen on for Popup".
3) Youlu Address Book. I no longer recommend DialerOne on the Hero, as I find it too slow, especially when using the T9 "Dialer Search" function to call contacts using the numeric keypad. I find Youlou to be much faster, with a nice interface with an easy to navigate tabbed UI.
4) Advanced Task Killer. Once installed, open it up, turn off the notification bar icon in settings, and add your most frequently used apps to the ignore list (so the killer always leaves them running for speedy access). I usually leave: Messaging, Email and DialerOne in the ignore list.
5) SyncMyPix. Lets you properly sync your facebook contacts pictures so that they show up in DialerOne and LauncherPro.
6) Facebook app, or, whatever
7) Photoshop Express. I only add this here because there is no way of uploading multiple images to Facebook using the standard "Gallery" app, but you can do this using Photoshop Express, pretty nice little app, but this feature makes it worth having.
8) THEME! If you want to change the stock theme from white to black, go to: Settings > CyanogenMod Settings > User Interface > Tweaks Extras > Select a Theme and change your theme to STOCK_Black and then reboot your phone. This makes all of the theme a very nice gloss black effect WITHOUT having to flash a seperate theme ROM over Cyanogen (which is a much better way of doing things, as you are not replacing the newer .apk's with older, themed ones... Yes, I know the browser icon kinda sucks, but you can always download the nicer icon .png from here
9) Android 2.3 (Gingerbread) Keyboard. If you want to install this keyboard, it will overwrite the existing Android 2.2.1 Keyboard (and currently there is no way of going back). The Gingerbread keyboard is FULLY FUNCTIONAL, this version now has working dictionary and autocorrect. You CAN still use the HTC_IME keyboard with this installed though, so if you hardly use the stock Android keyboard anyway, there shouldn't be much harm installing it and giving it a shot. HERE it is for those of you that just can't wait
10) The newest Android 2.2.6 Market. Flash in recovery, tested working great on my Hero, very lovely interface and nice and fast
11) (NEW) Angry Birds 1.3.5. for those of you who were wondering how I got angry Birds to run pretty well on the Hero, use this version rather than the latest one available on the market
DONE. Of course, you can modify this in any way you like, but after completing all of this you will have your own, pieced together ROM, without any strange extras or crap you don't really need. On top of this, you can head in to the ROM manager that comes with Cyanogen and install ClockworkMod recovery (if you are still using an older Amon-Ra or something), which is nice and easy.
Also, I'm not joking. It's fast... The screenshot below is with common apps (messages, emails, dialerone) running, and I still have 86mb of free memory. The battery life is fantastic, signal is great, call speed, wifi locking etc all seem faster than I have had them before. So, let me know your results (I have not tested GPS!).
And there yo go, your own freshy squeezed Hero, complete with all the trimmings. Baste lightly in your own choice of apps and serve.
Zeb
This post will be updated as newer packages are released.
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interesting, thanks. There's also an ADW-remover script on the Floyo page.
I didn't realise people were theming LauncherPro widgets to that extent, will have to investigate!

m8 you have done about 90% of the changes that i have put to my hero.
definitely is the perfect setup for me too.

Can I just flash this kernel over VR12 ? And do I have to flash radio if I flash new kernel? What radio really does? thanks
p.s. great work

Dark Emotion said:
Can I just flash this kernel over VR12 ? And do I have to flash radio if I flash new kernel? What radio really does? thanks
p.s. great work
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If you are coming from VR12 you will have to do a FULL wipe of everything (nand, battery setting, dalvik etc) in recovery before flashing all of these packages. So make sure you have backed up everything you want to keep before starting! I have no idea what effect flashing this stuff over an existing ROM will have as I did it all from scratch with a blank phone.
The Radio is possibly the riskiest aspect of this setup, and you can choose to leave it out alltogether if you wish, but for me this made possibly the largest difference, as everything from connecting to Wifi, switching back to 3G/HSPDA is much faster. Signal is better, and small things like initialising the dialler (the time it takes from me choosing to call a contact, to it actually ringing) feels much speedier, so I personally do recommend it! You don't need to use this Radio to use Flykernel 11c, so feel free to leave it out if you wish.
Zeb
Edit: I just noticed, do you mean, can you use Flykernel on it's own with VR12 without any of the other stuff? Yes, I believe you can, check you the Flykernel thread for more information, but I think it works for most ROMs.

Dark Emotion said:
Can I just flash this kernel over VR12 ? And do I have to flash radio if I flash new kernel? What radio really does? thanks
p.s. great work
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If you flash only the kernel, you don't need to do anything else - No wipe at all necessary. Updating the radio is not related to the update of the kernel but still recommended as usually it also improves the hero experience and if there are problems you can always go back

I just received my refurbished hero (the digitalizer was dead) and am trying your setup. So far everything on the setup side was fine though I had a random reboot after flashing the kernel.
I will update with my feelings on this setup, thx for the guide!

I like this post ... what are the advantages of elelinux or floyo over the standard CM 6.1 release though? I tend to go for one of those instead for some reason!

mdon874 said:
I like this post ... what are the advantages of elelinux or floyo over the standard CM 6.1 release though? I tend to go for one of those instead for some reason!
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I believe that the authors of these releases make modifications to the kernel, as well as making theme changes, adding packages of their choice etc. Some distributions are modified more than others (and not ALL of them use Cyanogen as a base I believe). You'd have to look at the specifics of those other ROMS to see exactly what is different (sometimes it's small things, such as the way the jog-ball flashes or how the LED behaves, and sometimes it's bigger, like having hacked settings, or adding otehr keyboards like the HTC_IME mod (which Cyanogen doesn't have as standard, but I prefer the android keyboard anyways). You can always add these things in yourself later if you know how, which is what I have chosen to do using this setup. this way you have complete control over what is added to your phone.
Also, Flykernel, and the Radio mentioned here have serious performance benefits over other offerings as far as I am concerned. you COULD just flash those two over the ROM of your choice, but doing things the way I have mentioned above just gives you a larger level of granular control, if thats what you really want that is
Also, I have wanted to use Cyanogen as a base for a while to see how it was, but I found it very hard to find decent documentation on how to set it up correctly, that is why, once I worked it out, I decided to post the method I used here for other people to try.
Zeb

thanks for the quick reply I kinda like flashing and starting from scratch on a clean install and adding things bit by bit so I'm guna follow ur guide and set my hero up myself.... also thanks for pointing me in the direction of the alternate launcher pro mod ... looks pretty cool!

mdon874 said:
thanks for the quick reply I kinda like flashing and starting from scratch on a clean install and adding things bit by bit so I'm guna follow ur guide and set my hero up myself.... also thanks for pointing me in the direction of the alternate launcher pro mod ... looks pretty cool!
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No problemo! Just as a side-note, the kernel that COMES with Cyanogen 6.1 seems good enough, but I had problems with waking the phone up (sometimes I had to push the power button 3 or 4 times to get to the unlock screen). This is a pretty standard issue with a lot of kernels where the minimum clock speed is a little too low and the phone doesn't quite rev up enough when waking up. So, if using CM6.1 as a base (as posted above) Flykernel is a must (using the clockspeeds I posted above), as it removes this issue entirely and boosts overall performance.
Zeb

agree for the configuration, is the best(for now )
however,instead of sms popup i use handcent sms, the application is very similar to the application of the iPhone, and has a built-in sms popup...try it!

magokh said:
agree for the configuration, is the best(for now )
however,instead of sms popup i use handcent sms, the application is very similar to the application of the iPhone, and has a built-in sms popup...try it!
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Nice addition, thanks! I have used ChompSMS before, but I really like the messaging app in Android 2.2, so I prefer to stick with that and use SMS Popup to handle the quick reply (which is an awesome feature). Also, the theme I posted skins the SMSPopup notification screen to fit with the rest of the device, to it looks extra good and as though it was really all put together into a proper ROM package.
I haven't tried Handcent myself but I have heard good things about it, so yea, probably worth a try if you aren't keen on the stock SMS app!
Zeb

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thanks for this, very useful especially the sms popup thing

Hello to all and thank you for the great topics on whatever is needed to tweak the Hero to full potential. I would like to flash a new rom (from VR12). Should i flash CyanogenMod 6.1.0 RC1 or wait for a custom rom based on CM 6.1 like Floyo or Elelinux's ROM. What would you suggest?

HTC_ime simply does not work. every time i try to to start it it force closes. I followed instructions as i usually did every single time before. help?

marcinr said:
HTC_ime simply does not work. every time i try to to start it it force closes. I followed instructions as i usually did every single time before. help?
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Honestly, I don't use HTC_IME mod so I haven't even tried installing it! I will try tomorrow and let you know if I make it work.
Sent from my HTC Hero using XDA App

vladsk8 said:
Hello to all and thank you for the great topics on whatever is needed to tweak the Hero to full potential. I would like to flash a new rom (from VR12). Should i flash CyanogenMod 6.1.0 RC1 or wait for a custom rom based on CM 6.1 like Floyo or Elelinux's ROM. What would you suggest?
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Personally, I much prefer this method! That's why I made this thread! Give it a try, if you don't like it you can always wipe the phone nice and easy and install Floyo!
Sent from my HTC Hero using XDA App

Settings
Any chance you can add some of the settings you use, like cyanogen or spare parts settings? I followed your guide completely and its pretty fast but i think enabling JIT might help but im too afraid to try. Thank you

[Dec 10][SD]JIGNERSMIUI 12.03 Stock theme (rootfs)+ Hastarin Kernel 8.5.1

BUILD UPDATE base on 12.03 MIUI release
Change log: [10Dec] 12.03 release
- Theme works
- Stock icons
- Much faster than 11.23 release
- improved MIUI music player
- revamped and improved keyboard
- Bluetooth works out of the box, (just sent a photo file to my daughters Nokia phone)
- GPS works out of the box too!!! just tested them this morning
DOWNLOAD JIGNERSMIUI 12.03
Sharing to you the build I found to be very stable after having used it for nearly
two weeks of continuous use. Originally built by domineus of MIUI Developers
forum, updated kernel to Hastarin 8.5.1 old cam.
two weeks of pure bliss, really, thats all i can say. I leave this if you are a fan of
MIUI, then this is definitely worth a test
Advantages:
- No screen freeze at all (just leave Auto Rotate Screen in setting, default is on)
- No SOD (can you believe it, never had any) (See Recommended steps)
- No Robo voice
- No screen wakeup delay
- Wifi works
- Market apps installs without any hassles
- 3G indicates HSPA if you are in its coverage
- Almost no data drops (tip: when turning "Data" on, give it 3-5minutes to stablish a good connection then start updating FB, browse, etc)
- Working Notification lights
- Loud sounds, but not too loud
- Working ringtones, (I prefer Zedge, free membership in market)
- Fast (very fast) graphics courtesy of Hastarin tip: install spareparts in Android Market and set all animations to fast (in my test it hardly affected battery usage)
- Camera and Camcorder
- Facebook Contacts Sync (yes you read it right) for birthdays, I recommend "Birthday Assistant"
- MIUI music interface is one if not the best our there.
- loads of stuff as short cut in the pull down task bar like data, wifi, sound 14 in total including reboot function.
- Battery is excellent, better than the Stock Winmo i was on
How to achieve the best battery life in this build: (5-7mAmp on standby)
- turn "Data" on ONLY when you need to update facebook, browse the web using 3G
or use chat clients like eBuddy etc.
- consequently turn on WIFI only when in range and when you need to connect to it
- only ever use live wallpapers, when you are showing off to your friends
Recommended steps in testing this build:
- charge battery at least >70%
- HSPL 2.08 (Video Guide Link)
- Task 29 - use .nbh file of Radio 2.15 to run it (this will then be your Radio)(YouTube link)
- Flash Oct 13▐ VBNROM *Reloaded 2*▐ 21913/24634▐ WWE 3.14 Core▐ Best Battery <8mA in Standby
- Full format SDCard using SD Formatter 2.0
- Unzip the file using 7zip found here
- at first place ONLY the folder "JIGNERSMIUI" in your SDCard
- Manually run CLRCAD then haret.exe (I prefer this method as it is plain and simple)(you must activate haret.exe while bottom keypads are a light).
- sync with google and facebook
- reboot back to VBN Winmo
- connect to pc (still in winmo) then transfer all your pictures, music, videos via usb
- Turn screen off, disconnect from pc
- run CLRCAD and haret.exe again
- Note: at first run of Gallery, it will be slow as it takes time to index the photo/video
files, just be patient and give it the time it needs (5-10min) depends on how
many photo files you have. After that it will be fast
DOWNLOAD LINK 11.23 release
MIRROR
MIRROR 2 thanks to nafania_19
youtube video comparison to my partners 3GS
Special Thanks To:
- Cotulla - for making all this possible
- domineus - for creating us this build and for giving people a chance to create their own Android roms.
- hastarin - for the kernel
- vbn for creating the perfect winmo base for this MIUI build
- MIUI-DEV team for opening the forum for the HD2

FIXES for 11.23 BUILD
GPS issues: solved
if you cant get a GPS satellite fix HERE is the solution
WIFI Tethering app
WIFI tethering in post 36
Quadrant Score just using default, no cpu tweaks whatever (Thanks to hastarin)

Reserved for screenshots and other updates

I have to check it out hope it is how described!
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

Is this Rom fully in English?
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mirror mirror

So this is domineus's 11/21 release, you just updated Hastarin 8.5.1 old cam kernel, no more no less, is that correct?

will give it try...

zephr5 said:
Is this Rom fully in English?
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99% in English yes

SPooT24 said:
mirror mirror
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your free to make one

Video youtube link up in first post!
enjoy
another battery saving tip: screen brightness setting
- at night or in dark places only set 20% - 30% of the indicator bar
- at daylight or bright places about 30% - 50%

startup.txt states
"rel_path=miui.rootfs nand_boot=0"
Should i re-name the unziped folder to miui.rootfs?
**EDIT** Yes it does need to be re named. **EDIT**

bumbklaatt said:
startup.txt states
"rel_path=miui.rootfs nand_boot=0"
Should i re-name the unziped folder to miui.rootfs?
**EDIT** Yes it does need to be re named. **EDIT**
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Sorry about the mixup, but there is a new download link in first post.
thanks for your patience and now the folder is "miui.rootfs"
so no need to edit startuptext.

Could you tell me where the cat utility is located so I can install adfree? Thx, great build, I am going to use this as my daily build
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App

thanks for the sharing.I love miui builds

i love all the MIUI builds & this one seems like the fastest that i've tried, only problem that i have (and i've had it with every MIUI build) is that after i set everything up, sync google, restart the phone & boot back up into android it freezes up when i see the "Preparing to scan sd card" notification in the taskbar. locks up & have to reset. happens everytime.

mikentucson said:
i love all the MIUI builds & this one seems like the fastest that i've tried, only problem that i have (and i've had it with every MIUI build) is that after i set everything up, sync google, restart the phone & boot back up into android it freezes up when i see the "Preparing to scan sd card" notification in the taskbar. locks up & have to reset. happens everytime.
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Have you gone through all the recommended steps i made in the first post?
it would be worth trying it, as these are the steps I made and i firmly believe
this made running the build on my device stable.

Does the theme manager works? It doesn't work in MIUI 26.11.

im running a different winmo rom (my own), formatted 8gb sd card fat 32, didnt task29 but did hard reset.
maybe a temp fix, but i downloaded Startup Manager from the market and disabled the boot media scan. works for now

mikentucson said:
im running a different winmo rom (my own), formatted 8gb sd card fat 32, didnt task29 but did hard reset.
maybe a temp fix, but i downloaded Startup Manager from the market and disabled the boot media scan. works for now
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thanks for letting us know how you resolve the issue you've encountered.

[Q] Stock-like HD2 Android Builds

I have a few questions about the current state of android builds for the HD2.
I've been running the Cotulla DFT Stock Desire rom for a while with a few tweaks (prj 0.3 kernel, removed some system apps, repartitioned for more /data on NAND). It's been relatively stable but I thought i'd try a Desire HD build as I like some of the newer apps and smaller menu text (it works better on the 4.3" screen).
I tried the imilka RAM Desire HD build. The build has the same WiFi sleep issue (wifi disconnects after phone left in extended sleep) that the DFT Stock build has. It also has a very obscure partition format (with RAM, but system framework on SD), odd slowdowns, and a few other things including the camera FC.
Basically I am looking for a build for the HD2, with the following:
- Suit EU HD2
- Desire HD base
- As stock as possible. No crazy RAM or framework-on-sd stuff. Fine with removed apps (like maps, youtube, etc) and /data on A2SD+
- Odexed. I want performance not fancy graphics
- Good battery life
- Fixed wifi & camera (I dont care what resolution, I just dont want FC on using the share app)
- Prefer Desire keyboard (hate the arrows, take up too much screen space).
Is this wish list too much? I might try skink clean desire but it's not a HD build.
I'm really disappointed that there are so many different android builds for the HD2 yet they all seem to have the same basic problems. I liked the DFT rom as it was well tested and had no extra crud.
HELP!

Well maybe you should ask yourself this first. What major difference is there between a desire hd and desire build in terms of looks/functions? A new music app? A different widget look for messaging and e mail? A different camera interface (Note barely any of the features in the desire hd camera work, which I assume you know)? A camcorder that doesn't sync audio and visual correctly? HTC hub, which isn't even populated with anything of relevance yet. And to top it all off, the desire hd builds are considerably slower than desire builds. I'm just saying here, there's no advantage other than eye candy I guess.

galapogos01 said:
I have a few questions about the current state of android builds for the HD2.
I've been running the Cotulla DFT Stock Desire rom for a while with a few tweaks (prj 0.3 kernel, removed some system apps, repartitioned for more /data on NAND). It's been relatively stable but I thought i'd try a Desire HD build as I like some of the newer apps and smaller menu text (it works better on the 4.3" screen).
I tried the imilka RAM Desire HD build. The build has the same WiFi sleep issue (wifi disconnects after phone left in extended sleep) that the DFT Stock build has. It also has a very obscure partition format (with RAM, but system framework on SD), odd slowdowns, and a few other things including the camera FC.
Basically I am looking for a build for the HD2, with the following:
- Suit EU HD2
- Desire HD base
- As stock as possible. No crazy RAM or framework-on-sd stuff. Fine with removed apps (like maps, youtube, etc) and /data on A2SD+
- Odexed. I want performance not fancy graphics
- Good battery life
- Fixed wifi & camera (I dont care what resolution, I just dont want FC on using the share app)
- Prefer Desire keyboard (hate the arrows, take up too much screen space).
Is this wish list too much? I might try skink clean desire but it's not a HD build.
I'm really disappointed that there are so many different android builds for the HD2 yet they all seem to have the same basic problems. I liked the DFT rom as it was well tested and had no extra crud.
HELP!
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Try the Typhoon NAND rom, it runs very smooth on my EU HD2, very stock, and almost all other points you mentioned.

Well the rom development for hd2 has come a long way from dft/cotulla build. I'd suggest you try some newer nn sense roms which I find way faster than any sense rom, that's the only way to find out for sure.
After countless trail and error I have found my rom(HyperDroid GBX) which does what I want it to do, it fast smooth, everything seems to work for me, battery its good, GPS,Bluetooth,wifi all work as intended and that's why its my daily driver( I still try other roms but this is where I go back to), keep in mind that just because it works for me doest mean it'll work for you.
Td;lr: try other roms and find one that meets your needs (do your home work! )