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ATT 8525 and ATT 8925 Email problems

The company I work for recently (3 months ago) bought 3 ATT 8525's for people who travel. All 3 of the phones have this issue where when they go into their power save mode, and they will not send or receive Email or produce notifications about new email. It appears to me that when the phones go into this power save mode they turn off the wireless card in the phone. I have made every effort to figure this out myself but I finally broke down and called ATT who then transfered me to HTC. HTC told me that this is a bug in the phone and that they do not have a solution for it other than trying Windows Mobile 6. However, since ATT has not released WM6 for the 8525, and I don't feel like bricking a phone, the company decided to go ahead and buy the ATT 8925, hopping that the new phone wouldn't have this problem. Unfortunately it dose.
So getting down to my question. Does anyone know how to get these phones to send and receive Email, through WIFI and not the cell network, when they are in their power save mode?
Any help on this would be greatly appreciated. Oh and BTW, after toying around with the 8925 I do have to say that the new features included in the phone are quite nice, hate the chrome though.
Thanks

Via WiFi? No. You wouldn't like the battery life if it did.

Battery life
I don't really care about that right now. I'm just looking for a solution to the problem i am currently having.

Could be connected to this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=332362

you need to disable the at&t proxie to use wifi to send mail/etc
To have the wifi alwayz on even in standby is not wise, you batter will die fast ......

I have no issues using Active sync with exchange 2007 i get emails even when in power save maybe you should get some exchange accounts

pwnage said:
I don't really care about that right now. I'm just looking for a solution to the problem i am currently having.
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You don't understand the gravity of what he told you. The battery life would literally be 2-3 hours.
Manually pressing the power button and tapping 'check for new messages' is a much better solution than being completely unable to access email for 3/4 of the workday because the battery has died.
Think about it.
Also, on your install CD, you'll find some AT&T software to push email to the phone automatically, waking up the phone using SMS. And, as other people have suggested, these phones were designed with Microsoft Exchange in mind and setting up an Exchange server would also help your problem.

Thank you for the replies.
Dose the "push" feature work with non exchange email servers. The only reason I ask is because we don't have an exchange server.

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Could be connected to this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=332362
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I took a look at this and it seems to describe the problem i have very well. In regards to the battery life, is there a way to have the WIFI turn on when its time to check mail and then turn off after its finished? I would really like these phones to be using WIFI most of the time even though we have an unlimited data plan, WIFI just seems to be faster.

pwnage said:
Dose the "push" feature work with non exchange email servers. The only reason I ask is because we don't have an exchange server.
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Try www.emoze.com

ringy2 thank you. I'll take a look at that.
You know I have been working off of the thread linked above and I have gotten the phone to the point where it seems to be checking our mail server over GPRS/3G (I have turned the WIFI antenna off). The problem now is that the when it goes to check messages it won't DL any new ones that may be on the server. Any ideas?

Do you not have unlimited data with at&t? If you do then there is absolutely no reason not to leave wifi off and just use that for email. As for checking emails and not getting anything new. You need to adjust the settings for your account.

surrept, Yes we have an unlimited data plan and at this point i have given up on getting the phone to check via WIFI. As for the settings, what are you refering to? I have the account setup and i have configured it exactly how it is supposed to be. i have it DLing full copies of messages w/ no attachments, and it is set to check mail every 5 min (will change this back to 15 once i have finished testing).

Um, BTW - AT&T did release WM6 for the 8525... VERY much worth it. However, I'm still going for a 8925 for the doubled RAM/ROM & GPS...

I highly doubt that. Again i have looked in every deep dark place that the internet has and haven't found any WM6 ROM that I can DL from ATT site. you are probably referring to the "official" ATT ROM that i have seen floating around. Im not going to put that on these phones because, one I work for a descent size company and I don't want to be breaking any law and such on there behalf. Two I don't feel like bricking any of these phones. I want the warranty to be valid on them. If it was my personal phone i might try it. but since these are the companies phones it ain't gonna happen.

Instant Messaging Software // AIM

Ive had my Wing for 3 months now, i just this week became interested in further developing my phone into something more of a useable device worth the 100 dollars i pay monthly to keep it running.
one of my only gripes about the standard software has been the lack of alternates. im looking for a program or hack that functions closer to the ichat of the mac for AIM. has any one seen this? If so, please let me know
thanks a mil.

this is where the Wing lacks big time. I came from the Sidekick which had excellent instant messaging and stayed connected well and was instant as the name implies. The IM software that comes with the Wing uses SMS so it is slow and unless you have unlimited text messaging you are in for a rude awakening. I have tried a few of the program out there including IM+, Palringo, agile, and imov and none of them come close to the functionality or the reliability of the sidekick. IM+ is nice but it constantly disconnects and drives friends nuts because you sign on and off all the time. Palringo is better for this but you can not switch users without losing everything you just typed to someone. even if you go to the contacts list you lose your conversation with whomever you are talking to. Agile would not stayed connected for more than a minute or two and constantly lost connection. imov just flat out didn't work well and would freeze so I didn't get to try it out much. And on top of all this. if you are using a cooked rom like touch it. you will not be able to use these because something required by the programs has been removed and no one here knows how to correct it or at least from what I've encountered. I will be waiting impatiently for my contract to end in a couple months and will be switching to a phone better suited for messaging. as far as PPC phones go the Wing is a good little phone even though slow and lacking memory big time it is not a good phone for those wanting to stay connected. I never thought I would miss my sidekick 3 but by oh boy was I wrong.

Here is all IM....
did me just a sec to search.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=315654&highlight=bible
popularthuq said:
Ive had my Wing for 3 months now, i just this week became interested in further developing my phone into something more of a useable device worth the 100 dollars i pay monthly to keep it running.
one of my only gripes about the standard software has been the lack of alternates. im looking for a program or hack that functions closer to the ichat of the mac for AIM. has any one seen this? If so, please let me know
thanks a mil.
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well i just got my t-mo wing and i like it i just dont like the aim client on it.disconnects and cant recive aim messages while off-line.is there anywhere i can download the aim client the the sidekick 3 has? witch i thinks is best aim client ever.can recive messages offline,can set away messages,and stays connected,the wing aim client that it brings is very bad. so if anyone knows where i can download the aim client that the sidekicks have plz tell me thank you.

To HTC Touch or Not ?

Hi, I need some help on deciding if I should get a HTC Touch or not. I have a Nextel/Sprint Hybrid ic902 currently but I played with my friend's iPhone and I like it. I wanted to get a PDA/Smartphone and the closest thing would be the Touch. I played with it at the Sprint store and it seems pretty nice. I don't really use my Nextel Direct Connect that much so I might want to switch over. I use over 500 texts a month and I check my Gmail periodically. I might want to use AIM if its capable on the HTC Touch. So if you guys can help me out with deciding to get the phone or should I wait and see what else Sprint comes out with. Tell me what you guys think. Thanks in advance for anybody who helps.

I had to make the exact same decision, and I decided to go with the touch, for several reasons.
First, I use the phone as a PDA as much (or even moreso) as a phone. You can't beat the syncing of the Touch. I use Sherweb for a hosted Exchange 2007 server (about $8 a month). I enter something in Outlook or on the web interface, and it shows up on my phone. Or, I enter a new contact in my phone, it shows up on my desktop. I *never* have to plug in my phone to sync it. Also, the Touch is much more customizable and has 3rd party apps. The iPHone has no apps without hacking right now, and I'm sure it's going to be a pain and expensive when they do finally come out. Also, EVDO >> EDGE for streaming (you can use vTap for Youtube, and Sprint TV comes on there).
However, the iPhone is a much better media player.
So, if you want a phone to play MP3s and videos, go iPhone. If you want it more as a business tool, go Touch.
What put it over for me was the price. I got the Touch for $250 after rebate, and a $30 SERO plan (500 minutes, unlimited text, data). The iPhone is gonna cost you $400 and run you $60 a month with only 200 text - you'll have to upgrade to get to 500.
So, now, you can do what I did. I got the Touch on SERO, and justified spending some of the $870 I'll save over 2 years and bought the $300 iPod Touch
I have a great media player, and the better phone., and still saved $600.

daveeckert said:
I had to make the exact same decision, and I decided to go with the touch, for several reasons.
First, I use the phone as a PDA as much (or even moreso) as a phone. You can't beat the syncing of the Touch. I use Sherweb for a hosted Exchange 2007 server (about $8 a month). I enter something in Outlook or on the web interface, and it shows up on my phone. Or, I enter a new contact in my phone, it shows up on my desktop. I *never* have to plug in my phone to sync it. Also, the Touch is much more customizable and has 3rd party apps. The iPHone has no apps without hacking right now, and I'm sure it's going to be a pain and expensive when they do finally come out. Also, EVDO >> EDGE for streaming (you can use vTap for Youtube, and Sprint TV comes on there).
However, the iPhone is a much better media player.
So, if you want a phone to play MP3s and videos, go iPhone. If you want it more as a business tool, go Touch.
What put it over for me was the price. I got the Touch for $250 after rebate, and a $30 SERO plan (500 minutes, unlimited text, data). The iPhone is gonna cost you $400 and run you $60 a month with only 200 text - you'll have to upgrade to get to 500.
So, now, you can do what I did. I got the Touch on SERO, and justified spending some of the $870 I'll save over 2 years and bought the $300 iPod Touch
I have a great media player, and the better phone., and still saved $600.
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Well I will have to buy the Touch from like eBay and pay like $300...And I get 25% discount from UPS off my bill...I was wondering how would get my contacts off of my SIM card to the HTC Touch..?..And I would be using Gmail for my email..Is it hard to get Gmail on the phone..?

Ah, forgot to mention the iPhone has the better browser. I mostly only browse news sites, which format well on the HTC Touch. If I have Wi-Fi available, I use my iPod Touch. Otherwise, I just make do with NetFront. Hopefully, Opera Mobile 9.5 will put the Sprint Touch more inline with the iPhone.

Getting the contacts off the SIM depends on what kind of phone you have. Can you sync it do a computer? If so, you can import them into Outlook. If not, you might be stuck. There are some USB SIM readers, I think, but I don't know how much they cost. Since you can just type the contacts into a computer (instead of keying them on the phone), if you don't have 100s of contacts, you might just be best off typing them in manually.
Getting Gmail on the Touch is easy. You can use IMAP or POP3, whichever you prefer. Obviously, IMAP is the best. Don't know what it does to your battery life, but I have mine on push mail, and I still have about 70% of the battery left when I go to bed (maybe down to 50 if I did a lot of surfing). IMAP should be comparable. (In contrast, my Moto Q was on push mail - I took it off the charger at 7am and it was completely dead by 10pm). Anyway, mail is easy on either phone.

Go to a sprint store they will do it for free.

daveeckert said:
I had to make the exact same decision, and I decided to go with the touch, for several reasons.
First, I use the phone as a PDA as much (or even moreso) as a phone. You can't beat the syncing of the Touch. I use Sherweb for a hosted Exchange 2007 server (about $8 a month). I enter something in Outlook or on the web interface, and it shows up on my phone. Or, I enter a new contact in my phone, it shows up on my desktop. I *never* have to plug in my phone to sync it. Also, the Touch is much more customizable and has 3rd party apps. The iPHone has no apps without hacking right now, and I'm sure it's going to be a pain and expensive when they do finally come out. Also, EVDO >> EDGE for streaming (you can use vTap for Youtube, and Sprint TV comes on there).
However, the iPhone is a much better media player.
So, if you want a phone to play MP3s and videos, go iPhone. If you want it more as a business tool, go Touch.
What put it over for me was the price. I got the Touch for $250 after rebate, and a $30 SERO plan (500 minutes, unlimited text, data). The iPhone is gonna cost you $400 and run you $60 a month with only 200 text - you'll have to upgrade to get to 500.
So, now, you can do what I did. I got the Touch on SERO, and justified spending some of the $870 I'll save over 2 years and bought the $300 iPod Touch
I have a great media player, and the better phone., and still saved $600.
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Cool. I have to try the ShareWeb to see what it's Like. That sounds awesome.
My two cents on the issue:
-iPhone doesn't have Bluetooth. (I use blutooth like crazy. I use the Motorola S9 stereo Bluetooth headset with the touch and also I got a Stereo Bluetooth receiver from Sony that I've installed in the car. So the touch is my media player at the Gym and in the Car. Its awesome.) You should install the HTC Adio Manager. It's not anything close to the iPhone's Media Player, but gets the job done.
-iPhone's Internet speed is really bad (unless you use the WiFi). GPRS vs EVDO and Soon RevA. It's no Brainer.
-The memory Card:with iPhone you can't increase the memoy size. You are stuck with 8GB max. With the Touch for now the largest is 8GB microSD, but you can have multiple of those. Maybe soon they will come out with larger cards than that.

I also heard people having problems when the phone goes in standby mode that they don't receive calls and stuff...Is this true..?

i get calls in standby an the new opera browser and the picsel browsers are awesome. I have no iphone envy. I dont even feel the need to copy its theme haha. The way I look at it, if you want a media player grab the iphone, if you want a handheld computer grab the touch. (I use it to freehand draw all the time)

Diplomat2387 said:
I also heard people having problems when the phone goes in standby mode that they don't receive calls and stuff...Is this true..?
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My girlfriend is on her third phone because of it.

ryan stewart said:
My girlfriend is on her third phone because of it.
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Now I'm in a dilemma...LoL....Wat should I do..LoL..

Diplomat2387 said:
Now I'm in a dilemma...LoL....Wat should I do..LoL..
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Honestly some people have problems others don't. I haven't had many of the problems many people have talked about and if they did they only happened once or twice. I love my touch and wouldn't change it for any other phone that sprint has right now.

Took the Plunge
Well - I took the plunge. I have two T-Mobile MDA's that are showing their age.
Went shopping. I was turned off by T-Mobile's inability to get a 3G network going. I saw the spec's on the Kaiser and loved it. But money drove me to Sprint. I get a 25% cut in the cellular plan thanks to my job. Kinda hard to pass that up. So it came down to the Titan or Vogue.
I chose the CPU & RAM boost. I dont think I will miss the WiFi. If RevA is as fast as I have been hearing...I should be happy. I'm coming from EDGE Speed, so anything should look like an improvment.
I ordered two of them today from LetsTalk.com and I should get them by Friday. I guess I will join the rest in "THE GREAT ROM WAIT" waiting for the GPS/REV A to get unlocked even tho I do have a BT GPS receiver I got for the MDA's
I guess I will update my Signature after I get the new toys

Gratz on the choice, but I question your sanity for buying from Let's Talk. I assume the Touch is "free" after rebate. Just be sure to mark your calendar, because you usually have to send it in between 180 and 210 days after purchase, or something like that. Then expect to wait another 6 months for the money to show up. Besides that nonsense, they royally screwed up my port, and then delayed shipping. I was without a phone for a week, very annoying.
Anyway, since it's too late for you, I hope you enjoy the phone anyway

1st time around went ok
I purchaced the two MDA's from them and all went well. Made an issue of sending the rebates the day I received them. 2.5 months later the checks arrived. The whole "REBATE" thing is good business....so many people dont fill them out.
As for porting.... I guess I will find that out soon. Porting both #'s
Porting is a pain, I work as Tech Support for the local cable company and we offer digital phone service.....porting #"s is a crapshoot sometimes.
**********UPDATE************
The Phones have shipped Should get them Tuesday

Diplomat2387 said:
Now I'm in a dilemma...LoL....Wat should I do..LoL..
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I had a problem with my phone not waking from sleep until I disabled the time syncronization (under phone settings). My phone was freezing at least daily and, since disabling synchronization, it's been solid for three weeks.

avoges said:
I had a problem with my phone not waking from sleep until I disabled the time syncronization (under phone settings). My phone was freezing at least daily and, since disabling synchronization, it's been solid for three weeks.
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I second that statement.

You can can transfer your contacts through bluetooth. And I also had ic902 and bought HTC touch and I transfered my contacts through BT.

kmatthews said:
You can can transfer your contacts through bluetooth. And I also had ic902 and bought HTC touch and I transfered my contacts through BT.
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Yeah what he said... I had a Motorola v551 and just transferred the contacts over to my new Bell Touch (Actually its a Vogue... go figure). It was a pain to xfer them individually but hey why not...
Also I have only had my Touch a grand total of 5 1/2 days and already i dont know how i lived WITHOUT it!
If you have some iPhone/Blackberry envy like I did but want something more out of the phone then the Touch is the wayyyyy to gooooO!
Hope that helped sway your decision!

I have the touch and love it. 4gb mem card full of music no need for ipod. Highly customizable w/ free apps, Blue tooth with Jaybird gear headphones. Love it and can't put it down which is why it's 3:00 am and still mesing withit!

New dream on the way.

Hello,
I just bought a HTC Dream off ebay, it closed at $255.00 new, of course, it is T-mobile branded and is the "G1". I became fascinated with the android port for the Kaiser (mine is a tilt), and decided i wanted the android phone everyone was going on about. As you know, because its a tilt, i am with at&t and the Dream is unlocked, will i have any problems making this phone work with my network? Everything ive read says it will be perfectly fine. Along with that, having no experience with Android except the port to the Kaiser, ive only played with linux on my laptop when looking for a new OS. But, is there anything i need to know about the Dream? As you know everything isnt working on the android port, it does enough i can use it as my full phone, but other then the market, few apps., and the browser, i really know nothing about the operating system.

As far as I know you won't get any AT&T 3G on the G1/Dream, but apart from that everything ought to work.

I am on ATT right now and have the G1. Its a wonderful phone. I also had the Tilt before this one. This phone has so much potential. The only flaw that i have found is the ATT 3G doesn't work and that theres not bluetooth file transfer, but besides that. I love this phone.

The 3G doesnt bother me, as i dont live in an area that has it. You could say i live in the "middle of nowhere." The nearest city with 3G im near is probably St. Louis, and thats about a 5 hour drive. And the bluetooth is ok, i never really use it. Have you had any trouble using the Dream with at&t so far?

I also have one more question. Being an open source OS, how does android sync with computers? I have a macbook pro which I use syncmate on to sync my tilt, windows mobile device center on my hp laptop running vista, and activesync on my desktop running xp, so, how does this work? Since it is open source, like OSX, will there be any programs made, or are there any out already? And how will it sync with the Windows computers? Sorry for all the questions, I have never used anything but a WM phone whish is smple for these types of things.

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The nearest city with 3G im near is probably St. Louis
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If you meant STL,MO,there´s no 3G yet.I live in North County and 3G isn´t availble so far.

lstat said:
I also have one more question. Being an open source OS, how does android sync with computers? I have a macbook pro which I use syncmate on to sync my tilt, windows mobile device center on my hp laptop running vista, and activesync on my desktop running xp, so, how does this work? Since it is open source, like OSX, will there be any programs made, or are there any out already? And how will it sync with the Windows computers? Sorry for all the questions, I have never used anything but a WM phone whish is smple for these types of things.
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This Phone doesn't sync with your computer like a Windows Mobile Phone. It syncs with the Google server over the internet. You can mount the phone and view and move files to and from it like you would a Usb drive.

Hmm...maybe i am thinking of KC MO? I could have swore St. Louis had 3G. So, your saying i cant conect to my comp. and go through the phones files like on WM? And what exactly do you mean it syncs with googles servers? I guess when i log into my google acount it syncs what ever data is on the account? Thats what i am understanding from all that i have read.

sorry for the typo, i meant can not cant connect, i am viewing the site from my tilt at the moment so not everything turns out perfect.

When you connect the G1 to the computer the G1 will have a notification. You then will MOUNT it to the computer to make it into a USB MASS STORAGE DEVICE. Then you will be able to browse the files on the sd card. And like the person said above the G1 syncs with Googles server. All your contacts, calanders, gmail will be saved to your gmail account. Make sure when you first setup the phone to setup the APN to ATT, so that you can use the EDGE network for ATT to register your G1. Its kinda a pain to have to setup the APN each time you wipe the phone. But i dont mind it, because this is an awsome phone.

Alright, making mores since now. Thanks for all of you taking the time to explain. I know the APN and such, im using the Android port for the kaiser right now, so i have a little feel for everything that has been ported so far. Is there no way to save the APN settings to the SD card? I thought i read somewhere before that you could do that? All this talking about the phone is making me anxious, cant wait for it to come in.

dta1974 said:
If you meant STL,MO,there´s no 3G yet.I live in North County and 3G isn´t availble so far.
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Ummm... I hate to break it to you but unless you are a freak accident, St Louis has excellent 3G coverage since last October. They have had basic 3G since '06 I think, and last October they HUGELY extended it, about 40 miles further south (YAY! about 15 miles from my house now!) and widely elsewhere. St. Louis has a HUGE 3G coverage area now. Check it out under data at http://wireless.att.com/coverage-viewer and then tell me there is no 3G again.

its in
well, i was just informed that my new dream is in, i wont be home for two hours or so, ill tell about my likes and dislikes and such after a bit.

Well as it turns out, got the phone, and it works great. Popped my at&t sim in it and rebooted, it wants an unlock code, dose anybody know where I can get one fore free? I don't want to pay the 20+ dollars to some of the plasces I've found to get te code, andive read to get it through tmobile you have to be a customer for 90 days. Does anybody have a solution for my problem? Id really like to use my phone! Thanks in advance

Unfortunately there is as of now no way to unlock it for free. The cheapest unlock I have seen so far is on modmygphone.com, the sister site of the famous modmyi.com iphone modding site. So it is trusted and I believe, although I could be wrong, it is only $12-13. Sorry...

Thanks for the info. I went with www.unlock-tmobileg1.com. Ive read much about it so i figured id go ahead. Hopefully i get the code soon, as i am very anxious to use this phone, ive showed it off all night, i just havnt gotten pass sign in. grr. Hoping i get the unlock code in a few hours, for now, i will sleep on it till morning.

[Q] My Experience with the WP7/Samsung Focus

Hey Guys;
So this is my rant about the Samsung Focus. I'll try to keep this brief.
I've been a huge fan of the Zune HD and since day one I've said that I'd switch if they ever add phone features (I was on a 3Gs at the time.)
So enter WP7; I LOVE the UI SOOO much that even though it's missing some really key things I was willing to overlook that and still got the Focus.
- I called AT&T to make sure they'd let me unlock it BEFORE I bought it because I'm taking a trip to Europe for a few months so I need to be able to use their local SIM. AT&T said "NO problem!" Once I got the phone however it turned into "We're not allowing it to be unlocked for 6 Months" (AT&T Sucks)
- It was suppose to take 15 minutes to active, it took 2 days (AT&T sucks)
- found out that WP7 doesn't connect to wireless networks that don't broadcast SSIDs (MS is clueless!) UPDATE: I take this one back... Still a pain, but maybe I'm being harsh...
But even after all these ridiculous issues that had me calling AT&T OVER AND OVER again, I was willing to keep the Phone....
Then came the deal breaker....
Since this is a really new OS from MS, They're supporting the newest exchange servers (2008) and if you're company doesn't have those new exchange servers dependable account syncing isn't in your future! mad:) I've been able to get it to sync, but it errors out before it finishes and then it's unstable. Shooting errors out all the time. Came across this forum: http://tinyurl.com/focus-outlook
So now I'm about to crawl back to the OS I abandoned (android)
Worse of all; I put my 32Gb MicroSD card in the Focus and although it works great, I can't figure out how to format it and get it usable on other devices again. Only the focus can see it now... (has someone come across a fix for that yet?)
So there you have it... I'm not having a good phone week...

kcasante said:
Then came the deal breaker....
Since this is a really new OS from MS, They're supporting the newest exchange servers (2008) and if you're company doesn't have those new exchange servers dependable account syncing isn't in your future!
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Firstly, the lastest Exchange is 2010 If you're not already on it, you really need to! It's awesome!
My Omnia 7 synched up first time, I really didn't expect it to be able to deal with the client certificate, but it seems to handle it all invisibly. I'm very, very, (VERY!), impressed by how flawlessly it has worked.
If you're not on Exchange 2010, you need to get your company into the Microsoft Partner Network and you will get licences for nearly all of the latest software. We jumped a version (from 2003 to 2010) and the improvement is gobsmacking. Exchange 2010 is so much more efficient, the servers are flying!

Smoothound said:
Firstly, the lastest Exchange is 2010 If you're not already on it, you really need to! It's awesome!
My Omnia 7 synched up first time, I really didn't expect it to be able to deal with the client certificate, but it seems to handle it all invisibly. I'm very, very, (VERY!), impressed by how flawlessly it has worked.
If you're not on Exchange 2010, you need to get your company into the Microsoft Partner Network and you will get licences for nearly all of the latest software. We jumped a version (from 2003 to 2010) and the improvement is gobsmacking. Exchange 2010 is so much more efficient, the servers are flying!
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Yes Smoothound, you're right it is 2010; my mistake.
And as for my company switching; I don't think I have any pull in that department. I don't think it's a good idea to call them out on the internet. Lets just say this is a company thats known worldwide as a household name ( and also just bought a dying phone brand due to their OS) I'm actually surprised that they're behind on that tech but I have no way of incluencing an upgrade unfortunately. I'm sure it's in the works but for when I need it, it's too little too late...

ActiveSync is working fine for me on Exchange 2003 without any issues at all. So, no, you don't have to be on the latest version of Exchange.

I'm pretty sure I have Exchange 2003 here (I know it's not 2010 or 2008) and it works just fine. The first time thru it wouldn't download images that were embedded in email but I'd pretty sure that was because of the half-assed network I was using at the time. When I got home and connected to my own network, did a hard reset and set it all up again, mail worked fine. No errors, nothing, just email. I read the same thing about the iPhone 4, too, but it works fine against my server, also.

markgamber said:
I'm pretty sure I have Exchange 2003 here (I know it's not 2010 or 2008) and it works just fine. The first time thru it wouldn't download images that were embedded in email but I'd pretty sure that was because of the half-assed network I was using at the time. When I got home and connected to my own network, did a hard reset and set it all up again, mail worked fine. No errors, nothing, just email. I read the same thing about the iPhone 4, too, but it works fine against my server, also.
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So now I'm really confused...
And when I set it up the first time it worked well too! All emails Contacts, and Calendar updates were flawless...
I have my corporate mail synced on my phone and iPad so when a mail comes in they all ding at the same time... Somewhere along the line, the focus stopped digging and I haven't gotten it back stable since....
When i set up the account automatically it has no problems finding my account but eventually errors out after pulling down some emails and contacts...
I can set it up manually but it doesn't make a difference.
I really don't want to return this thing because the only other phone thats useable on AT&T in my opinion is the iPhone 4 (or the Captivate) and I REALLY don't want to go back down that dark path
Any suggestions guys?

kcasante said:
So now I'm really confused...
And when I set it up the first time it worked well too! All emails Contacts, and Calendar updates were flawless...
I have my corporate mail synced on my phone and iPad so when a mail comes in they all ding at the same time... Somewhere along the line, the focus stopped digging and I haven't gotten it back stable since....
When i set up the account automatically it has no problems finding my account but eventually errors out after pulling down some emails and contacts...
I can set it up manually but it doesn't make a difference.
I really don't want to return this thing because the only other phone thats useable on AT&T in my opinion is the iPhone 4 (or the Captivate) and I REALLY don't want to go back down that dark path
Any suggestions guys?
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It has to be your Exchange infrastructure. I have tested the phone with Exchange 2003, 2007 & 2010 and they all work flawlessly. I'm an IT consultant and I have used my Focus to make sure it is compatible with my customers networks so that I can recommend it.

The only thing I'm sure is unusual about my set up is that since it's a dev system and it's just me using it for mail, I don't use SSL and have it turned off at the phone. Everything else is entirely straightfoward. I would think Microsoft would have decent integration between two of their own products BUT the phone is a Rev 1 system. You might take a look around the MS support site to see if anyone has had problems and if there's a reason and/or correction you can take. I second the thinking that it's probably something with your server and/or network but that's about the best I can do.

We are using Exchange 2007 and it works without a problem after the policy was corrected. Windows Phone 7 will not sync if the policy requires your phone to encrypt or strong unlock password (alphanumeric password). Our admin made a Windows Phone 7 policy for these items. Considering you cannot take the microsd out and it wont sync to desktops.. the encrypt is not a big deal.

In this thread the guy says going back and re-enter the information might work:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=833863&page=2
This happened to me as well. We have an Exchange 2003 server and what I did was go to "email and accounts" on the phone and went through the proccess and setup everything correctly but still got the error messages.
Now this is what fixed my issue (strange). I got out of the "email and accounts" and went into all programs list and opened "Outlook" , from there I put the settings in again for my account and presto, it just started working and syncing.
I did 2 phones likes this already and it works. Dont ask me how, but it does.
Hope this helps OP and anyone else using Exchange 2003.

kcasante said:
So now I'm really confused...
And when I set it up the first time it worked well too! All emails Contacts, and Calendar updates were flawless...
I have my corporate mail synced on my phone and iPad so when a mail comes in they all ding at the same time... Somewhere along the line, the focus stopped digging and I haven't gotten it back stable since....
When i set up the account automatically it has no problems finding my account but eventually errors out after pulling down some emails and contacts...
I can set it up manually but it doesn't make a difference.
I really don't want to return this thing because the only other phone thats useable on AT&T in my opinion is the iPhone 4 (or the Captivate) and I REALLY don't want to go back down that dark path
Any suggestions guys?
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I'm wondering if that additional microsd card you've in the Focus is causing you issues. I would remove the card, and hard reset the phone. Put in your Exchange info again and see if it doesn't work fine after that.

kcasante said:
Hey Guys;
So this is my rant about the Samsung Focus. I'll try to keep this brief.
I've been a huge fan of the Zune HD and since day one I've said that I'd switch if they ever add phone features (I was on a 3Gs at the time.)
So enter WP7; I LOVE the UI SOOO much that even though it's missing some really key things I was willing to overlook that and still got the Focus.
- I called AT&T to make sure they'd let me unlock it BEFORE I bought it because I'm taking a trip to Europe for a few months so I need to be able to use their local SIM. AT&T said "NO problem!" Once I got the phone however it turned into "We're not allowing it to be unlocked for 6 Months" (AT&T Sucks)
- It was suppose to take 15 minutes to active, it took 2 days (AT&T sucks)
- found out that WP7 doesn't connect to wireless networks that don't broadcast SSIDs (MS is clueless!)
But even after all these ridiculous issues that had me calling AT&T OVER AND OVER again, I was willing to keep the Phone....
Then came the deal breaker....
Since this is a really new OS from MS, They're supporting the newest exchange servers (2008) and if you're company doesn't have those new exchange servers dependable account syncing isn't in your future! mad:) I've been able to get it to sync, but it errors out before it finishes and then it's unstable. Shooting errors out all the time. Came across this forum: http://tinyurl.com/focus-outlook
So now I'm about to crawl back to the OS I abandoned (android)
Worse of all; I put my 32Gb MicroSD card in the Focus and although it works great, I can't figure out how to format it and get it usable on other devices again. Only the focus can see it now... (has someone come across a fix for that yet?)
So there you have it... I'm not having a good phone week...
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My company uses Exchange 2003 and I have had NO issues.. Works very well. Curious, what version of Exchange?

Sorry to hear about your issues. If I were consulting you prior to this I would have indicated that corporate users should let early adopters take first swing at the phone before you go for it but it sounded like you were willing to go through some pain.
As for the SSID, I wanted to comment that I think it is sort of unfair you are indicating that MS is clueless on that front. I have read many things from the wireless alliance and they seem to have been saying for more than just a few years (2006) that hidden SSID creates more problems that it solves and that it is not a true security feature. Here is a security analysts take on it: http://blogs.technet.com/b/steriley/archive/2007/10/16/myth-vs-reality-wireless-ssids.aspx
So anyway, as the industry updates it's standards, MS will continue to push those standards, hidden SSID is not a standard and is actually confusing to other wireless networks and traffic congestion resolution problems.

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I think the title of this thread needs to be renamed.
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No worries; It's done.

Thresher said:
Sorry to hear about your issues. If I were consulting you prior to this I would have indicated that corporate users should let early adopters take first swing at the phone before you go for it but it sounded like you were willing to go through some pain.
As for the SSID, I wanted to comment that I think it is sort of unfair you are indicating that MS is clueless on that front. I have read many things from the wireless alliance and they seem to have been saying for more than just a few years (2006) that hidden SSID creates more problems that it solves and that it is not a true security feature. Here is a security analysts take on it: http://blogs.technet.com/b/steriley/archive/2007/10/16/myth-vs-reality-wireless-ssids.aspx
So anyway, as the industry updates it's standards, MS will continue to push those standards, hidden SSID is not a standard and is actually confusing to other wireless networks and traffic congestion resolution problems.
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So here's the update...
I find that if I set the exchange account to check for mail every 15 minutes instead of push, it seems to be more stable... Although this is really weird (cause the same config on my iPad and my Evo 4G for that matter seems to work flawlessly) I'm just going to deal with it. Although my statements at the begining of this post was somewhat hard on the phone I will say again; I really LOVE the UI. and the Display is amazing... So much so that I'll deal with the crap I think it's missing for a while.
Here's to hoping MS is as agressive with their updates as they've said they're going to be.
Thanks for all the input guys.