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HTC Touch WIFI capabilities! (Bell Mobility / Sprint) - (MOD)

This plan is currently in the works and by no means confirmed working. Once confirmed I'll outline detailed methods, and possibly sell working units to the masses if nobody beats me to it. More on the concept further down.
Currently Bell is charging $15/month for 2MB of data! That's right megabytes not gigabytes.
Anyways, I'm not here to sell anything really. I just want cheap free data usage. I live and breath around open access WIFI hotspots, and I know this phone supports it. Not to mention the Touch is a great buy ($0 upfront).
So while my 2MB plan is crap, I can use it when I'm not around WIFI.
This post goes out to customers of BELL Mobility (Canada) and SPRINT(USA).
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Upon proceeding with this "mod", I make two assumptions:
1. The WIFI circuit and antenna are non-existent within CDMA chipsets, which leaves room for more memory than the GSM version of Touch.
2. The WIFI chip and antenna ARE existent but the issued ROMs ignore it's function for annoyance purposes.
Now that's out of the way, here's the concept.
1. Log onto fleebay and Purchase a normal size SD WIFI card with some internal memory of course
2. Mod an obsolete microSD card to carry the pin configuration over to the standard sized WIFI SD card, using thin ribbon cable as the raceway.
With this type of mod, you could close the battery door, and side panel. Of course there will be external circuitry hanging out. I'm planning on adhering it to the back of the door somehow to keep the phone looking cool!
There you have it, a modded Touch which can carry over WIFI capabilities externally.

Was thinking the same thing yesterday. But instead of building a SD-to-microSD adapter, I believe there is already one out there:
http://www.ameri-rack.com/APA-TFC1m.html
Not sure how to purchase from them though...
Also, would you think this mod would work with this? because basically this is what I want, as I have unlimited data (but I don't like WM's browser):
http://www.youtubetoipod.biz/guide/turn-your-ipod-toucn-into-a-3g-iphone.html

I think you are referring to the Ipod Touch which is a great device. But I am referring to the HTC touch CDMA version which is a device already sold as a phone without any mods of course. Big difference, Microsoft and Mac difference.
Although everything I described relates to the first link you posted. That is exactly what I have in mind. I had no idea someone beat me to a full out production version.
I would buy that for $100 even though it would be worth $5 or less in mass produced parts. If they want more than $100 for that extender, I'll build my own and flaunt it at the Bell shop.
But as far as I'm concerned, thanks xDarKnighTx for the link!
Aside from that, there already is a microSD wifi card prototype out there which sticks out like a sore thumb. Good luck closing the battery door and side panel.

wifi
wifi has been one of my peeves about the touch. from what i have read the hardware in the phone does not exist so i think its safe to say the rom is not the problem releasing wifi. a hardware adaption does not seem that far off. i know the microsd card wifi has been rumored but either does not exist or it is crap. supposed the mini sd wifi card was crap. your theory is to go microsd to sd and then sd wifi?
my thinking was a usb plug in for wifi. a plug in antenae that way would be easy to put in and take out. i thought for sure some mfg would already have created one. maybe the usb circuitry prevents this?

To sum up - microSD ---> to SD ---> to Wifi.
USB Wifi would be a great option and has been done before with earlier PDA's. Not sure about any success with the HTC Touch though.
UPDATE:
I Just purchased a Spectec 802.11b Wifi SD Card for a good price. There is no internal memory on this chip. If I get it working then I'll spend more money and upgrade to a WIFI chip with memory.
Now for the microSD mod...

Just an FYI re: Bell's data plans.
thirteenthcell said:
This plan is currently in the works and by no means confirmed working. Once confirmed I'll outline detailed methods, and possibly sell working units to the masses if nobody beats me to it. More on the concept further down.
Currently Bell is charging $15/month for 2MB of data! That's right megabytes not gigabytes.
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Not that I'm against WiFi, but unlimited internet through Bell is only $15/m.
Quoting Bell.ca:
"The Fun 15 bundle includes Call Display, Message Centre Express, 200 sent text, picture and video messages, unlimited received messages and Unlimited Mobile Browser."
They've been offering this package for quite some time, and it's applicable to Bell's Touch.
What Bell DOESN'T make 100% clear (though if you go to their stores they will), is that internally Bell doesn't count the Touch as a smartphone because it doesn't have a full qwerty keyboard.
A few people asked me how I could afford data on Bell, as they were looking at the "Internet for Windows/Palm" type plans. Two of those friends went out and signed up with Bell.
The most I've moved through my Bell Touch in one month is 6.5 gigs (first month playing around), and never saw any overages, though most months I'm just shy of the 1gig mark. This works with Opera for full-html rendering, Newsbreak for RSS and podcast download as well as email.
Just one thing: don't tether your phone to a laptop through the standard WM tethering app or you'll probably get hit with a hefty bill (as it's mobile browsing only).
NOTE: I don't work for Bell, and don't particularly like them, but I'm definitely a happy customer with the data plan, because it's nationwide no roaming charges for data, and it's worked for me in Ontario, Manitoba and Quebec with no problems.

UPDATE:
I sent an email to AMERI-RACK expecting them only to ship the APA-TFC1 in bulk.
Good news, we have a microSD to SD adapter for only 26.75 plus shipping. You just have to email their support team with your address and request this device like I did.
To sum up this thread
The Wifi equation for the CDMA Touch:
AMERI-RACK's APA-TFC1 to link an SD-WIFI card - Thanks xDarKnighTx for the link
A SD WIFI card with memory which supports WM6 at least
Possible home brew ROM with WIFI drivers found in the connection manager
*I'm hoping there's a quick way around enabling WIFI on the software side. Anyone's input is appreciated.
Antboy said:
What Bell DOESN'T make 100% clear (though if you go to their stores they will), is that internally Bell doesn't count the Touch as a smartphone because it doesn't have a full qwerty keyboard.
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That's not what I was told in the store, they put me on a $15 2MB DATA plan which covers your browsing, email and downloads. Can someone else confirm this true who signed up recently like I did (few days ago).

thirteenthcell said:
That's not what I was told in the store, they put me on a $15 2MB DATA plan which covers your browsing, email and downloads. Can someone else confirm this true who signed up recently like I did (few days ago).
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I asked for the $15 Fun Bundle when I was phone shopping a few weeks ago. The store manager said it was only available with certain packages, with certain phones, and all of the packages she mentioned were available ONLY if you get a contract.
I bought a cheapie phone somewhere else after that... Their best offer was nearly double my old phone bill with Telus.

My apologies,
I'm not on the $15 2MB Data Plan. They set me up with Bell's "Fun 15" which includes unlimited browser, message center, callerID, and a few text messages. And apparently the Touch falls in this category.
I heard in a message board that certain programs (like possibly google maps / live mail) call in data as if it were a browser session. Meaning the application's DATA transfer counts towards your unlimited browser. At the same time, other programs call it in as if it were configured as a tethered modem connection where you get charged by the megabyte.
Confusing!
Anyway, I'm going ahead with my WIFI plan and will keep everyone updated with any progress.

thirteenthcell said:
My apologies,
I'm not on the $15 2MB Data Plan. They set me up with Bell's "Fun 15" which includes unlimited browser, message center, callerID, and a few text messages. And apparently the Touch falls in this category.
I heard in a message board that certain programs (like possibly google maps / live mail) call in data as if it were a browser session. Meaning the application's DATA transfer counts towards your unlimited browser. At the same time, other programs call it in as if it were configured as a tethered modem connection where you get charged by the megabyte.
Confusing!
Anyway, I'm going ahead with my WIFI plan and will keep everyone updated with any progress.
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I've been using a full modded HTC Touch with absolutely no issues with my data plans.
I was confused at first, and was told different things by different bell reps. Some told me that I required a special data plan to use a smart phone - and that the HTC Touch didn't use that phone as it wasn't a true "smart phone".
Then, I was told that the only data that I wouldn't be charged for is data loaded through the regular browser - This was quickly debunked.
I've used all types of services for over 1.5 months now. From streaming vide to Google Maps, to downloading music - Nothing has been charged as bandwidth. Mind you, i have an old data plan where I got unlimited 1X browsing and data (it used to be $5 - but I now get it for free ) - so that's the main reason i got the touch in the first place - the potential for modification and it's use of the 1X network.

thirteenthcell said:
I think you are referring to the Ipod Touch which is a great device. But I am referring to the HTC touch CDMA version which is a device already sold as a phone without any mods of course. Big difference, Microsoft and Mac difference.
Although everything I described relates to the first link you posted. That is exactly what I have in mind. I had no idea someone beat me to a full out production version.
I would buy that for $100 even though it would be worth $5 or less in mass produced parts. If they want more than $100 for that extender, I'll build my own and flaunt it at the Bell shop.
But as far as I'm concerned, thanks xDarKnighTx for the link!
Aside from that, there already is a microSD wifi card prototype out there which sticks out like a sore thumb. Good luck closing the battery door and side panel.
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I think you've misunderstood my intention. I want to set up the HTC Vogue to transmit its internet through wifi, so that my ipod touch (or laptop) can connect to it.
Would you think that's possible with the SD wifi card?

xDarKnighTx said:
I think you've misunderstood my intention. I want to set up the HTC Vogue to transmit its internet through wifi, so that my ipod touch (or laptop) can connect to it.
Would you think that's possible with the SD wifi card?
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That makes sense, so you have both the HTC Touch and IPOD Touch.
In order for a program like WMWifiRouter to turn your phone into a WIFI hotspot, there needs to be a few things in place.
My only challenge right now is enabling WIFI options in the COMM MANAGER. I'll experiment with different homebrew ROMS cautiously, and hope the SD WIFI drivers do all of the work for me.
UPDATE:
All of the hardware required is being shipped right now including the APA-TFC1 microSD adapter as well as a standard size WIFI card. Total cost right now $55-$60.

I thought I'd just confirm that Bell handles the Vouge as a regular cellphone (No extra PDA charges), also the unlimited data plan (Mine was $7 a month) is great. I've been using opera 9.2 (Whatever the newest one is) which loads pages just like a desktop pc, as well was downloading music, AVGN videos, whole SCUMM games (700MBs), using google maps and GPS and have not been charged an extra cent. It really is a great plan, and an awesome phone; definitely why I bought it.
Now all I have to do is work out how to hack tethering, not that I have much of a use for it right now.

Just in case you might want to persue a different route, the cdma htc touch actually has a pinout for the full size SD card on the mainboard, it's unknown if it's wired parallel to the microsd slot or not, but being SPI devices, it might very well be...

ya people have the great data plan with bell ya should work out something for sprint our cheapest data plan is $15

Ok, the SD wifi card is a very old idea. Just not gonna work. Yes, you will get internet but each time you want you have to search for access point, chose the right one, ... It just won't work in most case. Another problem is if you do have access to wifi, you normally will have access to a laptop.
Anyway, I am using Bell $7 unlimited Internet for a year now. I don't know why you need to pay $15 for 2MB. The $7 unlimited plan is really open. I am a software developer so I know how much data I used.

c--b said:
I thought I'd just confirm that Bell handles the Vouge as a regular cellphone (No extra PDA charges), also the unlimited data plan (Mine was $7 a month) is great. I've been using opera 9.2 (Whatever the newest one is) which loads pages just like a desktop pc, as well was downloading music, AVGN videos, whole SCUMM games (700MBs), using google maps and GPS and have not been charged an extra cent. It really is a great plan, and an awesome phone; definitely why I bought it.
Now all I have to do is work out how to hack tethering, not that I have much of a use for it right now.
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I've tried tethering to my EEE PC (running Win XP) using PDA Net from http://www.junefabrics.com/pdanet/index.php with no billing overages. It's a $35 program, but does have a trial available for testing. It worked for me when I tested it up at the cottage, and worked from out of province as well.

thirteenthcell, any updates on this?

So, maybe to keep this from showing outside of the case. Can you get the extended battery cover and hide all of those guts(microsd adapter and sdwifi card) underneath it, if it works.

UPDATE:
I would like to make myself clear on a few things, and apologize in advance for any confusion.
When I bought my Vogue three weeks ago, I didn't realize it had "Unlimited data" as a bundle. This confusion was mainly due to their confusing rate plans and classification of the Vogue.
Therefore, I was initially ticked that I would have to pay $15 for 2 megabytes. This case is not true because Bell classifies the Vogue as a regular "dumbphone".
There you have my reasoning for wanting Wifi on this phone, not realizing I could freely use DATA on the phone under a small unlimited data bundle.
There is another reason for wanting Wifi:
Tethering
There are posts out there claiming to get "stealth" tethering where your phone carrier doesn't realize your laptop is connected and sees it as a normal internal cellular data connection. This seems to be a whole new thread as far as I'm concerned, so I'll stick with the plain old getting the WIFI working on the Vogue.
Right now the micro SD --> SD adapter is confirmed working.
Proof: I took pictures of this mod with a digital camera and immediately swapped the SD card into the adapter's slot. I was then able to use my phone to access the standard SD card.
The Wifi card isn't working. This has to do with the stock ROM and or Registry entries. I need to go over the registry perhaps.
Any help with registry settings is greatly appreciated.

Got my HD2 in Hawaii- some questions/issues/answers

I picked it up at the local T-Mobile store. Got there an hour b4 it opened. Long line. They got in 15.
1) Before I call T-Mobile, anybody know why that if I BOUGHT the phone outright, they wouldn't allow me to get my business discount unless I choose 2 year contract and pay the higher rate for the services like I didn't buy the phone? Btw, I am a new T-Mobile customer. I quit them over a year ago for no 3g and spotty coverage.
2) Is there a way to have the Weather on the mainscreen the one that uses gps to locate my weather? I noticed I can't choose my city in Hawaii (Only Honolulu) yet when the GPS version picks me up, I get my actual home town name, and I want that, but under the time.
3) For those wondering, I did get my Jabra headset to pair and I can say things like "What time is it" from the headset. I forgot to check if it'll tell me what number is calling when a call comes in tho.
4) I tried to install Skyfire, but after it downloaded, I couldn't install it. Weird. After trying like 15minutes, I got it to install. But I swear I didn't do anything different.
**Major downer**
5) 3G isn't as good as I was hoping so far. I tried going to many places I goto and about half of them will loose 3G and goto Edge. Edge is at least 50-100% full so not so bad except I loose the ability to use googlemap and get a phone call.
I noticed it might have 1-2bars for 3g, then it'll switch to Edge. Is there a way to tell it NOT to switch to edge so quickly? I swear even 1-2 bars on 3G is faster than Edge.
6) GPS worked out of the box. Unlike my TouchPro,which takes anywhere from 10seconds-10minutes on a cold start. SO far, I get gps in less than a minute. But I guess most of those would be warm starting now.
7) New power cable. Can't use my old Touch Pro power cable.
8) Comes with flashlight. Sweet. 3 brightness levels.

1. I know my discount only applies to monthly bills.
5. why can't you google maps and phone calls? that is odd.

skylinepigeon said:
1. I know my discount only applies to monthly bills.
5. why can't you google maps and phone calls? that is odd.
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It's monthly bills too. But tmobile said I needed a 2yr contract. Made no sense since the only reason for the contracts is to pay for the phones. (per TMobile)
When on Edge, you loose teh ability to use phone+Data at the same time. 3G allows both, but since 3G keeps changing to Edge in my areas, I loose the ability to surf and talk. And I can see how that can cause some trouble.

Just installed my Pocket Informant 9. Hmm... Doesn't intergrate into HTC Sense. Never thought about that. The sense calender is nice,but I like how PI9 calender displays words "9am-2pm Doctors" in the calender view. And while I didn't try the sense version of inputing personal data, it seemed" like it was missing some that the PI9 has in its version. I could be wrong...
Did anybody try and install the cabs for more "info" for the lock screen and the main screen to show more than one calender event on the T-Mobile version of the HD2 yet?

ok, tested my Jawbone Prime. AUGH.
OK, MSVC (Microsoft Voice Command) works. BUT it doesn't tell me whos calling in my BT device. What I hear is a ring sound in my ear, and the phone tells me who's calling. Even if I have it set to vibrate, and it'll still talk on the phone speakers.
I got the weather to show the one with the GPS on my main window. Forgot which screen I was in, but it finally allowed me to pick the GPS version for my main screen.
I wonder if battery will die faster now. 8 hours a day I'm indoors and gps won't pickup. I have it set to check once an hour. I wonder if the gps searching will kill the units battery?

What to do with my G1 thats not being used?

So, I've gone out and bought the MyTouch 3g Slide, and most likely won't be going back to use my G1 as my daily driver. I have no plans to sell the G1, well, not yet anyways.
So what can be done with my G1? I was thinking of maybe using it as a navigation-only device. Problem is, with no SIM, I of course would need a nav system that stores the maps on the SD card. The phone is rooted, so I was wondering whats the best way to try and trim this phone down to almost nothing, so that all it will basically be able to do is load the nav app I install. Is this possible or already done?
I really liked this device. It did pop my Android cherry after all, and I don't just want it to collect dust.
Thanks in advance.
Edit: I intentionally posted this in General, but after re-reading this, would it make more sense to post this in the Development forum? Can a mod move it if so...?

put it in a box and ship it to me this way your not selling it.... your giving it away

yeah... send it my way. My kid has been ogling my G1 forever now. He wants one soooo bad. LOL.

OK, aside from selling it, or giving it away, what else...

I've often thought of what to do with my G1 when and if a successor becomes available.
I personally would love it if some developers could get together to make a rom that would resemble what the Ipod Touch is to the Iphone. All the programs and games, no phone bits. Just use it as a personal media player. Or in my case, i use it as a wifi remote for my HTPC also.
Oh, and does it make you wonder..when 2.2 source is available to the public, would trimming out all the telephone parts make the G1(with dangerspl) upgradeable again?

Cancel your home landline, put google voice on the g1, keep it connected to wi-fi all the time, and you got free nation wide calling and a cheap international calling. Also since it is connected to wi-fi, you can still use it as a phone.

Send it to me pretty please (I need to update my N95).
... Okay fine, how about charity?
LOL ...no?
Well aside from using it as:
a second phone,
Digital camera (poor one),
PMP/iPod (listen to music/watch pictures/videos),
Portable gaming console (Atari, C64, Sega Genesis, GBA, SNES and Android games),
Home entertainment unit (surf on your couch with wifi) and
eBook reader (nonetheless poorly).
I can't think of anything else.
If you can't find another use for it besides just a mobile phone, you're really missing out and should just post it to me

Definitly new ipod or home phone

there's a pretty nifty howto over at instructables.com on using the G1 to power a home-made robot
http://www.instructables.com/id/Android-G1-Serial-To-Arduino/

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=541177&highlight=wifi+talk
I have mine on wifi and setup like this.. pretty cool as I now can use it as separate phone while at work, home etc .. and with the app penetrate I get even more use of the wifi

jamesd86 said:
I've often thought of what to do with my G1 when and if a successor becomes available.
I personally would love it if some developers could get together to make a rom that would resemble what the Ipod Touch is to the Iphone. All the programs and games, no phone bits. Just use it as a personal media player. Or in my case, i use it as a wifi remote for my HTPC also.
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Ya know, I am planning on upgrading to the Touch Slide or whatever in a few months when I can afford it...when I do, I might just whip something up ROM wise that has no phone bits, but strictly media apps like:
WIFI Remote for various HTPC frontends (XBMC, MediaPortal, etc)
Music Apps (stock music, 3, etc)
Anything else I can think of
I think that would be a fun project. And considering everything in my home is OpenSource, it shouldn't be all that hard to find (or create) all the apps I need.

That sir, would be pimp.
But to cut down the rom size why not make those a flashable addon? Make it so they install to sd automatically maybe? The biggest thing would be to fit 2.2 on the phone, with support for apps to sd, jit, and all the other delicious froyo goodness.
Thanks for listening.

Use it as a dedicated SIP phone in wifi areas.
First get a google voice number and a gizmo5 sip number.
Forward your GV number to your regular cell number as well as your gizmo5 sip number using sipdroid (market) on the G1, so that when you're in wifi areas both your cell and your g1 will ring. Now you can answer either based on whatever... caller, importance, etc.
Make outgoing calls in wifi using all of the above and the GV callback program (market) so as to make totally free calls. Add some money to google voice for international.
Use it on the tabletop like a pda and take calls on your cell. actually very convenient. I've got a clamshell which I prefer for talking and can take more abuse than the G1.
Get a Tmobile $100 prepaid sim which is good for a year. That's 10c min and your own number for a year! ..and if you add any money to it the expiration is extended to a year from the add. At that price you can throw it in the car for 11 months and forget about it only to switch it to another phone later.
Put 2 grooves in it and call it an ashtray. -Bill Cosby

i have a retired htc magician which i am using as an alarm clock and listening to audio books. It served me well over the years. Was my first HTC phone. Battery still lasts more than a week...

Holy Cow! What is the deal?

I am on TMobile not AT&T, I started with iphone 2g(jailbroken), upgraded to 3gs(jailbroken), got tired of my iphone and decided to get this mytouch 4g, mainly to have better speed and performance. I am not an apple fan boy, and really dont care for apple products. Have been hearing so much great stuff about Android, that I was really excited to switch.
Now that I have this mytouch 4g, and made the switch, I am really shaking my head. When I plug in my iphone it automatically sync's up with Outlook 2010, zero effort is required on my part, contacts, calendars, tasks, etc done. I have now spent 1hr on phone with TMobile tech support & 2 hours on phone with HTC tech support. So far zero sync up happening with mytouch period. If I turn the phone to disk drive I can see it on my pc no problems, but USB tethering, no way. I mean how in the world do manufactures expect people to put up with this kind of crap. If apple can figure out how to make this sync up happen with zero effort, surely some other manufacture can make this happen without wanting to slit your wrists.
After spending the 2 hrs with HTC tech support, the excusses for their incompetence is incredible. Well we just havn't gotten our software quite right yet, well then why sell the phone. Outlook is what every business in the planet uses(well the majority at least) and you can't figure out how to make your phone work seamlessly with it, are you kidding me? Well you need to create a gmail account, why, I already have too many work email accounts that works fine why do i need another? So now i created a gmail account, exported all my stuff from Outlook to gmail via CSV, I am still saying WTF. So now everyday when I want to sync up this mytouch, i have to export everything from Outlook to CSV, then import it into gmail just to get my latest info into the phone, please tell me I am missing something here.
Now I am reading that the wifi tethering is going to be an additional cost? Someone help me here. Is there a work around for this? On my iphone, I just hit MyWi and I can create a hot spot that my laptop works awesome with and no additional cost, nothing to plug in, just surf away. Someone please tell me I am missing something here with this mytouch.
I really want to like this phone and keep it, but damn why is everything such a PIA? Phone feels good in my hand, don't love the interface, but can live with it, have not played with the apps yet, but I assume most everything that I have on my iphone I can find in Android. I am on the fence here, and need some help and insight from the Jedi Master here. I am not trying to be a hater on this phone, I just don't understand why so much grief, hell my old Moto Razor back in the day sync'd up better than this thing does.
What is the deal with this mini usb plug as well, have to wonder how long that connection will work for, its certainly not a smooth plug in deal.
Help is very much appreciated at this point.

DegoRed said:
What is the deal with this mini usb plug as well, have to wonder how long that connection will work for, its certainly not a smooth plug in deal.
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Can't help you with the other stuff. But that plug is a micro-usb that almost every single phone made today, minus the iphone of course is going to. Its a standard that has proven great with blackberries for a couple of years now. So instead of searching for that iphone cable, you can use the same cable everyone else has. Along with most 2.5" harddrive cases, etc.

Excuse Me but did you expect the android OS to be a magical extension of your brain and not have to bother reading any manuals or instructions. I would bet that if you took time to read rather than just posting hate syncing would be no problem.

DegoRed said:
When I plug in my iphone it automatically sync's up with Outlook 2010, zero effort is required on my part, contacts, calendars, tasks, etc done.
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Check out the program companionlink. This is what I use and it automatically syncs all my calendar/tasks/contacts etc from Outlook to my gmail account and then automatically syncs to my phone. It syncs both ways, when I make a change on my phone, it syncs and updates Out look on my PC. Will this work for you? Don't know but it's the best solution I have found for me.
As far as wireless tether, you will have to root (jailbreak) your phone if you want the wireless hotspot feature without paying tmobiles monthly fee. It's simple to do though.

Just curious, have you tried this? https://tools.google.com/dlpage/gappssync

Someone get this guy a tissue

DegoRed said:
\If I turn the phone to disk drive I can see it on my pc no problems, but USB tethering, no way.
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Have you installed the driver here? http://www.htc.com/us/support/t-mobile-mytouch-4g/downloads/
On my first myTouch, I hooked it up to my computer and it recognized it straight away without any issues.
On my second, I had to install this before it recognized it then I was fine.

Picasosz-I guess you missed the part about spending 2 hrs on phone with HTC tech support? So far I have reinstalled the drivers 4 times now, reinstalled the HTC Sync software twice. I have rebooted my comp so many times, I am scared it may not start the next time I do it. Really, you think the manual would tell me more than the tech support guy at HTC?
According to the Tech Support guy at HTC, the best Sync software to use for this phone is 2.0.40 that you need to download from the HTC EVO, because they have no software for the HTC myTouch 4g as of yet.
What I do expect is that I plug my damn phone it and it automatically with connect to my PC. Hell my printer does, scanner does, portable HD does, flash drive does, iphone does, and my 4 year old Moto Razor did. Is it really to much to ask that a brand new, latest and greatest, phone to plug in and Sync up? I think not. I am sincerely asking for some help, hoping someone has had similar issues and can provide me some insight. Your comment does nothing to help, so thanks for nothing.

dinan, that app looks great, I will try that, hopefully that works, TYVM.

Some years back, Microsoft invested millions of dollars into Apple's development for the purpose of integration of MS software into Apple products. Google, on the other hand, would rather you keep using their "cloud" based stuff. If you really need seamless Outlook integration, get a WP7 phone. You should have done more research before committing to a Google OS.

Google apps sync is $50/year & companionlink is $40.
I guess I am just screwed.
Thanks Xfoo for your input, I just never guessed that this was the case, assumed everything was pretty integrated these days.
Going to hold out for a week before I send this phone back, I think TMob has a 14 day return period, maybe HTC will pull a rabbit out of their hat by then and come up with some new software. The Tech Support guy kind of indicated that might happen due to the amount of people complaining.
Guess I never knew how good I had it with my year old iphone.

Who uses outlook?

A lot of corporations and businesses still sadly use it.
And If you need perfect outlook sync go with windows mobile. Android isn't meant to be synced to outlook or anything like that. The only thing you are suppose to need to plug your phone into a computer for is to put stuff on the sd card or to charge it. Googled created android with the cloud in mind and for me and a lot of other people that works great. For people that need a phone for syncing to outlook get windows mobile plain and simple. I love the fact that I can go on any android phone type in my google account name and everything is synced, I have all my emails, my contacts, events, and app data. Android is a smartphone but it really isn't meant to be something that you should depend on for outlook. There are solutions out there but most of them are equal to you having to pay.

Outlook and the rest of the PCs with their local storage are increasingly going the way of the dinosaur. Everything will be in the cloud shortly. Google's impending OS is one big glorified web browser. I'm sure it will be very successful as are most other Google's products. Server admins will need to find a way for their colleagues to access the company's servers via secure web protocols.
So, to the OP, in order for this transformation to take place, there will be pains for those who rely on being tethered to a PC, but a more natural company to take the reigns of this business than Google I do not know. Google is almost entirely a web services company. So, naturally their mobile OS is going to be tied heavily to the cloud and not to native software running on a PC. While it is very much possible to sync and tether via 3rd party apps, many will find that what ships with their phone suffices to bring everything they need to the table in today's mobile environment.

Have you ever thought to sync all the data from outlook to a gmail account and use the gmail on your myTouch?

Exchange and all my other email took me 1.7 minutes of toilet time to setup.
If you like things to be already done for you... get the iPhone, because that's what it's about. You get things easy and limited. Dumbed down for the average consumer.
If you enjoy freedom, choice and a little DIY satisfaction... go Android.

Exchange was really simple to set up. It took me less than 5 minutes to set it up. Frankly it took longer to type in my strong password than it did for it to connect to the server.

Not sure what your issue is. I have never needed to plug my android phones into a computer, that is the beauty of android.
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Why do you want outlook to sync when you plug it into your computer? This sounds backwards and silly to me. Just have it sync OTA. Al Gore didn't invent the internet so that you could post on forums whining about how you're the only person in the western hemisphere who has never seen a micro-usb cable before. He invented it so that you wouldn't have to use the cable at all.
So what I'm saying is either log into your exchange account with the Mail app and let it auto-sync the calendar. Or shell out for touchdown, which is a little more full featured.

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Google apps sync is $50/year & companionlink is $40.
I guess I am just screwed.
Thanks Xfoo for your input, I just never guessed that this was the case, assumed everything was pretty integrated these days.
Going to hold out for a week before I send this phone back, I think TMob has a 14 day return period, maybe HTC will pull a rabbit out of their hat by then and come up with some new software. The Tech Support guy kind of indicated that might happen due to the amount of people complaining.
Guess I never knew how good I had it with my year old iphone.
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Why would you want to do something that requires effort. Use Gmail, Yahoo mail, Exchange activesync, POP3, IMAP or any of the other wireless syncing services built into the phone.

Just Bought The LG Quantum on Ebay

Hi all,
I just bought a used LG Quantum from ebay. I would greatly appreciate all of your input to help me verify that this phone is working properly. I am upgrading from a Touch Pro 2, wm 6.5.
1. I don't see a water indicator sticker. Is there a blue sticker in the battery compartment to indicate water? I see a small hole that is white filled on the top left region, opposite the sim. Is this it?
2. How can I verify if the ROM is stock? Is there anyway for me to check to see if the previous owner has replaced the ROM or has done anything to the phone that might prevent the Mango update? Mango update is REALLY important, I have been holding off upgrading until Mango comes out.
3. I have been using the Touch Pro 2 without a data plan. I don't have a contract and don't want to enter a contract. All my datat usage is wifi, and it has served me well. I have wifi at the office, and wifi at home, therefore no need for a 3g data. In WM 6.5, I can turn off the 3g data modem. Can I do the same with this LG? I also have AT&T block data on their side, but I don't want any "accidental" data charges. I would feel much better if I can turn 3g off on my end.
4. How do I do a factory wipe? This might be necessary if the previous owner have not done so. It is currently charging so I haven't got the chance to mess with it. Its very hard waiting....
I might have more question as I go along. Thanks in advanced for everyone's help. I really love Windows Mobile and have been using Windows Mobile phone before the iPhone ever came out. I got my wife an Android phone, and I'm very disappointed with Android. I can't believe companies putting out Android phones that are not usable out of the box. You have dig for apps and install additional apps in order to make the phone acceptable for use. Anyway...thanks again everyone.

Update:
Well, I found the factory reset in the Setting menu, and have done it. I noticed that after resetting the phone, I went through the setup, and saw that in the setup process there was a check box for data option. I unchecked the box so that the phone would not use data. Does anyone know if that would stop any 3g data access?

Update:
It looks like no one wants to share their experiences, so I'll just go on with this monologue and post things as I find them.
I found the 3g data switch in the setting menu. So it looks like you can turn off 3g data and just use wifi.

Hey, I just got this phone as well. Local bell was clearing them out for 78.83. looks to be pretty cool. Just bought it as an extra phone. I don't think its anyone is ignoring you, this is just a low profile device haha. I've just updated it to Mango as well. Runs really well.

Kev. said:
Hey, I just got this phone as well. Local bell was clearing them out for 78.83. looks to be pretty cool. Just bought it as an extra phone. I don't think its anyone is ignoring you, this is just a low profile device haha. I've just updated it to Mango as well. Runs really well.
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That's a really good price, did you have to sign a contract for it? I have been buying my phone on ebay to avoid contracts.

Kev. said:
Hey, I just got this phone as well. Local bell was clearing them out for 78.83. looks to be pretty cool. Just bought it as an extra phone. I don't think its anyone is ignoring you, this is just a low profile device haha. I've just updated it to Mango as well. Runs really well.
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I've just connected my phone to the zune software for update to Mango, but it says the phone is up to date: 7.0 (7390).

I got impatient so I did the disconnect from the internet trick. Was a breeze and worked right away and I've had no problems with it.

Can someone verify for me if this is stock rom:
OS Version: 7.0.7390.0
Firmware Revision Number: 1.1.3.11
Hardware Revision Number: 1.1.0.0
Radio Software Version: 1.1.3.11
Radio Hardware version: 0.3.5.0
Bootloader Verson: 1.5.1.0
Chip SOC version: 0.30.2.0
I want to know if the NODO version is official or the beta.

Update:
ok guys, the windows phone gods have looked down and seen how I'm searching and poking around trying to verify my phone OS so that I can update to Mango; and they are smiling on me. Out of the blue today, the zune software said I have an update! Woohoo! Mango is coming, its been updating for 30 minutes now.

Update:
Now running Mango and loving it!
Does anyone know where the water indicator sticker is located on this phone?

Great to hear... I'm still waiting on mine. Trying to be patient.

You were right, the water indicator is the little hole that should be white when dry, and turns pink after getting wet. There's another, larger, square indicator on one end of the battery.

Otnos. I just bought mine as well on Ebay. Been waiting a long time to upgrade from my HTC Tilt to the new OS. I have to wait for mine to show up, but your rambling postings are great reading as i would ask similar questions being new to the WP7.5 world.

arcspeak said:
You were right, the water indicator is the little hole that should be white when dry, and turns pink after getting wet. There's another, larger, square indicator on one end of the battery.
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Thank you for confriming that, now I can leave a positive feedback for the seller.

moonlite said:
Otnos. I just bought mine as well on Ebay. Been waiting a long time to upgrade from my HTC Tilt to the new OS. I have to wait for mine to show up, but your rambling postings are great reading as i would ask similar questions being new to the WP7.5 world.
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hahaha...Good to have you chime in. I'm liking WP more an more each day. AT&T recognized this phone and automatically listed it on my online account. I love thr fact that I can turn off data, in the Settings, Cellular page. I use wifi instead.
At first I was afraid that wifi would drain my battery fast, so I manually turn it off and on. But I have been reading and found that WP will turn of wifi when the screen is off, isn't that great? Now I just leave wifi on, and whenever I turn my phone on, it automatically have a data connection.
I don't use text either. Why pay AT&T $20 a month for this funtion!
Here is my work around. I use Google Voice. Set Google Voice to send text to your Hotmail account that you associated with your phone. When someone text to your Google Voice number, it INSTANTLY goes to your Hotmail. Your Windows Phone will receive a notification in the email live tile. You tap on the email tile to read the text and then reply by email. When you reply to that mail on your phone, your receipient will receive a TEXT reply. Voila! Free text.

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hahaha...Good to have you chime in. I'm liking WP more an more each day. AT&T recognized this phone and automatically listed it on my online account. I love thr fact that I can turn off data, in the Settings, Cellular page. I use wifi instead.
At first I was afraid that wifi would drain my battery fast, so I manually turn it off and on. But I have been reading and found that WP will turn of wifi when the screen is off, isn't that great? Now I just leave wifi on, and whenever I turn my phone on, it automatically have a data connection.
I don't use text either. Why pay AT&T $20 a month for this funtion!
Here is my work around. I use Google Voice. Set Google Voice to send text to your Hotmail account that you associated with your phone. When someone text to your Google Voice number, it INSTANTLY goes to your Hotmail. Your Windows Phone will receive a notification in the email live tile. You tap on the email tile to read the text and then reply by email. When you reply to that mail on your phone, your receipient will receive a TEXT reply. Voila! Free text.
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lol...after describing in details how I can get free texting, I just discovered AT&T Go Phone (pre-paid plan) that has unlimited talk & text for just $50/month. This is a great plan for those of you in the US who have AT&T and no longer under a contract. I used to be on the $40/month plan that only gives me 450 minutes/month. Now I have switched over to their Go Phone prepaid plan that is $50/month ($55.01 with tax) and get unlimited Talk & Text! Data is also available but for additional fee.

moonlite said:
Otnos. I just bought mine as well on Ebay. Been waiting a long time to upgrade from my HTC Tilt to the new OS. I have to wait for mine to show up, but your rambling postings are great reading as i would ask similar questions being new to the WP7.5 world.
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I have a Tilt still and am curious to see what you think! I've been contemplating upgrading either to an LG Fathom, LG eXpo, or maybe a Quantum. However, the Samsung Captivate Glide was just announced, so maybe that's what I'll try... I wonder if it is worth getting a one or two year old brand new phone, when my then new Tilt has worked for over 3.5 years.
otnos said:
lol...after describing in details how I can get free texting, I just discovered AT&T Go Phone (pre-paid plan) that has unlimited talk & text for just $50/month. This is a great plan for those of you in the US who have AT&T and no longer under a contract. I used to be on the $40/month plan that only gives me 450 minutes/month. Now I have switched over to their Go Phone prepaid plan that is $50/month ($55.01 with tax) and get unlimited Talk & Text! Data is also available but for additional fee.
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That is interesting. I have been out of my contract for some time. I am grandfathered with the $30/month unlimited data, and another $5/month for 200 texts. If I didn't travel so much, I think your option would really work. Once I change my plan though, there is no going back...

daveb673 said:
I have a Tilt still and am curious to see what you think! I've been contemplating upgrading either to an LG Fathom, LG eXpo, or maybe a Quantum. However, the Samsung Captivate Glide was just announced, so maybe that's what I'll try... I wonder if it is worth getting a one or two year old brand new phone, when my then new Tilt has worked for over 3.5 years.
That is interesting. I have been out of my contract for some time. I am grandfathered with the $30/month unlimited data, and another $5/month for 200 texts. If I didn't travel so much, I think your option would really work. Once I change my plan though, there is no going back...
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The quantum is a 1st Gen phone. If you are able, I think you should get a 2nd Gen phone instead.

So I'm probably buying one of these on ebay (I cant write on touchscreens so im in need of a smartphone android or WP with QWERTY on it).
Some questions:
-Whats the newest version of windows phone right now?
-Can LG Quantum be updated to that version?
-How's the battery on this model? Can I get 2 days with moderate use?
-Is anyone trying to make a graphic EQ to WP7? I think the lack of this basic multimedia feature is just ridiculous.
Thanks and sorry to make so much questions

rmrbpt said:
So I'm probably buying one of these on ebay (I cant write on touchscreens so im in need of a smartphone android or WP with QWERTY on it).
Some questions:
-Whats the newest version of windows phone right now?
-Can LG Quantum be updated to that version?
-How's the battery on this model? Can I get 2 days with moderate use?
-Is anyone trying to make a graphic EQ to WP7? I think the lack of this basic multimedia feature is just ridiculous.
Thanks and sorry to make so much questions
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WP7 newest version is Mango, and this LG Quantum can be updated to Mango. I'm running Mango right now.
The battery life is good, you can easy get 2 days moderate use.
I'm not sure I understand what you mean by graphic EQ?