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sms to mms...

Seriously, this is getting beyond a joke. I thought this problem was solved back with the G1...
I can't believe that after all of this time there is no option to disable auto-mms conversion.
And before anyone comments: I have looked through google; It is NOT a problem with my network, or violation of any other UK network; I have sent much more than 3 or even 10 stringed sms's on winmo and iPhone OS. It is 100% Android, and I would like a fix without installing a new messaging client (nothing supports the N1's resolution).
To be honest, I wouldn't mind disabling outgoing mms since it's completely obsolete; I email something if I want to send a picture and I thought Android was made to promote data usage, not prehistoric phone methods.
If it's what it takes, I would disable it altogether.
On the odd occasion (like once or twice a year), I may receive an mms, but I have never, in my entire life sent an mms. What is Google's problem? Do they live in the 90's?

Have you tried removed the MMS setting from your APN in the settings?

Sounds like an advantage to me.. Nokias do that too if you type a message too long for SMS. What's the problem? Your message arrives at the other end correctly.

stewart1988 said:
Have you tried removed the MMS setting from your APN in the settings?
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I removed the MMS settings and it hasn't said "converting to mms" after 3 sms's. I suppose that means it's working
Thanks.

TonyHoyle said:
Sounds like an advantage to me.. Nokias do that too if you type a message too long for SMS. What's the problem? Your message arrives at the other end correctly.
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Yeah but I have unlimited sms texts so MMS is automatically a minus for me.

replace the standard messaging app with handcent sms. it's probably my only must-have app on android and it has that option.

niiiick said:
replace the standard messaging app with handcent sms. it's probably my only must-have app on android and it has that option.
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Resolution's too low i'm afraid.
I've only just got away from the iPhone messaging client

resolution of...the icon? everything else is properly done. but if that's your thing, then yeah, the icon looks slightly blurry. wait for an update in the market i guess.

Yeah all of the edges are pixelated.
And I want to get rid of the iPhone messaging client because with only using half of the screen, I don't get as much message on as when it uses the whole width.
I guess I'm a bit bored of the iPhone now and I'd like to mess around with android for a bit first.

Antiskunk said:
I removed the MMS settings and it hasn't said "converting to mms" after 3 sms's. I suppose that means it's working
Thanks.
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Oh wait, it's converting to mms again ¬¬ and I've removed al of the settings for mms.

T-Mobile MMS size limits?

I've recently noticed that not many people have been getting my MMSes, and today I did some tests to figure out what was happening.
It seems like pictures sent from the Nexus One using the stock messaging app has the size cap at around 1MB. From some research, T-Mobile USA seems to cap their MMSes at 300KB. Pictures taken with the Nexus One's camera using the highest settings varies from 700KB to a little over 1MB.
When I send a 700KB picture to someone, the messaging app doesn't do any resizing or compression; it'll just send it as it is and the recipient will never get it. When I try sending the larger ones that are more than 1MB, the app will resize and/or compress to about 800KB, and as expected, the recipient won't get that either. I've even tried sending these larger MMS to my email to rule out any device/service incompatibilities on the other end, but those don't go through either.
Sending something tiny, like a 7KB or 100KB picture works just fine, which sort of verifies that there's a cap.
Well, my question is, is there a way to adjust the cap in the messaging app? I don't see any options anywhere, so I kind of doubt it. I don't really want to use a 3rd party app; I think you can set the max size in ChompSMS.

Some providers resize pictures as they're travelling across the network, simply because a lot of phones have small displays/memory and can't handle something that big. You have to tell them you're using a phone that can handle it (eg. N95 or iphone) so they stop doing it.
If Tmobile are dropping the pictures entirely then that's something for them to sort out... I'm surprised they would do that.

I just finished speaking to HTC and T-Mobile. T-Mobile confirmed that MMSes are capped at 300KB, and HTC told there's no way to change the maximum in the messaging app. All they could tell me was to take pictures at a lower resolution, which wasn't the answer I was looking for... Hopefully, when the source comes out, there will be a way to add the option in there.
I'm kind of surprised no one else has run into this issue before.

:/ well, that blows. i was a little whizzed at sprint for capping at 500kb.
your option could be get on wifi, send through email to their phone (e.g. [email protected])
common addresses

I'm using handcent sms on tmobile and handcent always resizes my images when i attach them to a message. i tried the normal messaging app and when i try to attach a picture it says "compressing image". For me handcent sms is great and definitely better than the stock app.

I took your guys' thoughts into consideration, but still ran into problems.
Sending a text using email to a T-Mobile number (##########@tmomail.net) with an attachment larger than 300KB will result in the the picture never reaching the recipient. I can't say that this won't work for any of the other carriers though.
Handcent Sms does indeed resize the picture enough to send, but it converted my 800KB picture down to 14KB. It's a little too aggressive with the conversion for my taste.
I'm just hoping that it will be a relatively easy to implement a way of changing the 1MB max size on the messaging app when the source comes out.
If anyone else has any suggestions, I'd love to hear it.

TaFFeR said:
I took your guys' thoughts into consideration, but still ran into problems.
Sending a text using email to a T-Mobile number (##########@tmomail.net) with an attachment larger than 300KB will result in the the picture never reaching the recipient. I can't say that this won't work for any of the other carriers though.
Handcent Sms does indeed resize the picture enough to send, but it converted my 800KB picture down to 14KB. It's a little too aggressive with the conversion for my taste.
I'm just hoping that it will be a relatively easy to implement a way of changing the 1MB max size on the messaging app when the source comes out.
If anyone else has any suggestions, I'd love to hear it.
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Did the 14Kb figure come from the MMS when it was received or did you check it on the phone after it was sent? I'm on O2 in the UK and they seriously butcher any MMS being sent to the Android, if I send a picture to myself its immediately obvious looking in the conversation view that what I've sent and what I've received are not the same.

I too have been having this problem. I would like to stick with the stock messaging app as well. I am sure there will be an update for this I just hope it's soon.

shuflie said:
Did the 14Kb figure come from the MMS when it was received or did you check it on the phone after it was sent? I'm on O2 in the UK and they seriously butcher any MMS being sent to the Android, if I send a picture to myself its immediately obvious looking in the conversation view that what I've sent and what I've received are not the same.
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I checked on both ends. This was with Handcent though, remember. When you send, it's added to the thread where you can check the file sized of the picture. I sent it to myself to my email via MMS, and it was 14Kb on that end too.
On the other hand, if I send something < 300Kb, the picture stays intact on the receiving end. I don't think T-Mobile does any processing of the MMSes in any way.

I too, have been having problems with MMS, just as you stated.
FWIW, my observations:
-Android on VZW can receive my MMS, but I get a 1kb file with nothing in it when he sends me an MMS.
-When iPhone on ATT sends me an MMS, it comes through, but when I send him an MMS, he never gets it. Strangely, when my other friend with a G1 sends him an MMS, it doesn't come through.
-Within Tmo, MMS is fine.
I don't know anyone dumb enough to use Sprint, so I can't check on that.
-I sent a photo from my Gmail app to myself, and it came out perfectly fine. 731k on both sides.
Would be nice to have an app that automatically resizes photos to the 300kb Tmo limit.

Hmm... That's weird, I can't send anything larger than 300Kb to myself or my brother who has a G1. I thought I had this figured out, but now I don't know what's going on anymore

I just checked on my phone, sending via tmo to att...one went through, but two others didnt. i may have to switch to handcent or chompsms.

Messaging app is completely terrible

I purchased an evo for both me and my wife. A friend of mine did the same as well. It seemed like a good deal at the time and the phone seems to be good quality overall...
However, when messaging back and forth quickly, messages disappear from the thread and cannot be seen in any way. All that I receive is a notification. This has happened for all of us. Messages are also often received in the wrong order.
Would the situation be any better if I was using plain android instead of the buggy sense UI? It looks like the froyo rom is making good progress.. I'm going to try it, but if it's still as buggy as it is stock, Sprint will be getting 4 EVOs returned.

Try another messaging app like handcent or chomp. You have choices.

No problems here, and I'm on my 2nd Android phone. Both have worked great with no problems such as yours.

Seems like more of a rant then a request for help. that being said, my family has 5 Evo's between us and we have had not one complaint with the SMS. possibly sprint service in the area? i know when i'm in smaller towns the sms seems to lag, almost like its stuck in queue somewhere before being sent to me.
good luck mate!

Use Handcent. Problem solved. The stock app is slow and sucks.

If you hate it, go back to the iPhone where you obviously came from?
Now to try to find a question to answer within all that complaining....... hmmm... oh yes, I'm having issues with the SMS coming in odd orders occasionally. I did not ever experience this with my Hero.
So what I can derive from that is that this particular release of Sense, which is NOT Android, has a bug. You need to differentiate between the OS and the VERY deep reaching Sense UI that HTC puts on top.
I'd tell you to wait for the ROM development to pick up, but something tells me you're not a tinkerer. The iPhone is a fantastic phone.. you just can't tinker as much as you can with Android. So with Android you'll have choices but you'll have bugs. It's just something I come to expect.
It's like running Linux. Sure it's trendy to hate Microsoft, but holy hell there are a lot of problems with Linux apps in design, UI, and in general stability (Note, I didn't say Linux has problems.. I said apps. Because it's the crap on top of the underlying system I have complaints with). I still love it, I just have to approach it with an attitude that it's not going to be as polished as OS X, and it's not going to be as stable either.
Welcome to Open Source and the stuff people put out with it.

After hearing everyone praise handcent I decided to give it a try myself and wow is it better. Choice is very nice
Sent from my EVO using Tapatalk

Edited to remove ranting, I'll give handcent a shot. Hopefully it doesn't lose random messages =(.

I've gotten some messages out of order, but that's about it.
If I try Handcent and somehow don't like it, is it easy to revert back to the original built-in messaging app?

pekosROB said:
I've gotten some messages out of order, but that's about it.
If I try Handcent and somehow don't like it, is it easy to revert back to the original built-in messaging app?
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Nevermind I realize it's an independent app. I just replaced my Messaging icon with the Handcent one on the homescreen.

BTW, anyone using handcent have a problem sending MMS?

pekosROB said:
Nevermind I realize it's an independent app. I just replaced my Messaging icon with the Handcent one on the homescreen.
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Just make sure you disable notifications in the stock app so you don't get double notifications. That's annoying.
Also, I haven't had any problems with MMS while using Handcent.

afazel said:
Just make sure you disable notifications in the stock app so you don't get double notifications. That's annoying.
Also, I haven't had any problems with MMS while using Handcent.
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Thanks, I totally noticed that too. But it looks like if I disable notifications in the notification bar then it doesn't let me make sure it plays a sound.
Does handcent control that on its own so it doesn't matter if the sound is disabled on the stock messaging app?

pekosROB said:
Thanks, I totally noticed that too. But it looks like if I disable notifications in the notification bar then it doesn't let me make sure it plays a sound.
Does handcent control that on its own so it doesn't matter if the sound is disabled on the stock messaging app?
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Handcent has its own notification settings.

Jye75 said:
Handcent has its own notification settings.
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Thanks, I turned off the messaging app notification and it still notified me when I got a text.

donatom3 said:
BTW, anyone using handcent have a problem sending MMS?
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Yea I have that problem alot I usually use built in messaging for MMS and handcent for all other SMS. I never have a problem receiving MMS with handcent just sending.

I prefer chomp, and have had no issues. well maybe one, or two texts out of order. Like if the sender typed a "two page" text and sent, then sent a short text the short one might come in before the second half of the "two page" text.

roybotnik said:
I purchased an evo for both me and my wife. A friend of mine did the same as well. It seemed like a good deal at the time and the phone seems to be good quality overall...
However, when messaging back and forth quickly, messages disappear from the thread and cannot be seen in any way. All that I receive is a notification. This has happened for all of us. Messages are also often received in the wrong order.
Would the situation be any better if I was using plain android instead of the buggy sense UI? It looks like the froyo rom is making good progress.. I'm going to try it, but if it's still as buggy as it is stock, Sprint will be getting 4 EVOs returned.
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that doesn't happen with my sms app but it does happen with my google mail from time to time.

prestonr83 said:
Yea I have that problem alot I usually use built in messaging for MMS and handcent for all other SMS. I never have a problem receiving MMS with handcent just sending.
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I ran some tests and I can send over 3g it's only when wifi is enabled. So I did some research and found out sprint only sends MMS over their connections. The default messaging app will bypass wifi and use 3g to send mms. Handcent had patched this for the Hero.

I'd like to put in a plug for ChompSMS. I hadn't used it before, but people were saying that it automatically resizes your pictures when sending MMS. Maybe this isn't a problem on the Evo, but it was on the Hero. I will occasionally get a text out of order if someone sends me a long one that is broken up into more than 2 messages. But, I really like it's interface better than Handcent, which I have also used. As far as I know, I have never had a text go missing when using Chomp.
Android is all about choice. It's really nice to have all these choices and these are FREE (as in beer).

Anyone find a solution for the MMS Slideshow issue?

So everytime I get a mms the picture wants to open is slideshow, which is really annoying. Has anyone found a way to make it open in gallery like normal? I don't want to long press and save and all that. I just want it to open in gallery when I touch it.

Same happened if I try to send a pic. It never sends and when I click on pic it opens like it is a video.
Sent from my GT-N7000 using xda premium

i downloaded handcent for just opening and sending pictures, it doesnt compress them as much when sending them as well. test it yourself, send a pic to yourself, see how low the quality is, now send a pic to yourself with handcent

I wondered if it was me only! Had the same issue. I had been using handcent for almost a year and thought I'd try the 'messaging' app as I like the split screen in landscape mode. . . Because of this wired slide show issue and the white background setting never really working and the inconsistent send issue (with mms) I switched back to handcent.
Works well! Note: I had one or two mms no send issues with handcent (overall huge reduction from 'messaging' - which was near 99%) - I added '80' as my mms port in apn settings. . . I don't think I have had a send hang since.
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Long Screenshot

Hello
Anyone know why when take a long Screenshot the image is pixelated or distorted????
Thanks

Try using a different app to view the screenshot. I have not seen any screenshots from this device that are pixelated or anything, they are taken in full resolution.

Mine are only blurry when I send them in a text message but if I view them in the gallery there crystal clear. I can't figure it out but then again I'm using Google msgs not the stock OnePlus msg app.

666syco said:
Mine are only blurry when I send them in a text message but if I view them in the gallery there crystal clear. I can't figure it out but then again I'm using Google msgs not the stock OnePlus msg app.
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Your messaging app is compressing the picture before it sends it. This is standard for pretty much all messaging apps since MMS has a file size limit per carrier.

Jager said:
Your messaging app is compressing the picture before it sends it. This is standard for pretty much all messaging apps since MMS has a file size limit per carrier.
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But on Android 9.0 with the same Google msgs app it sent fine once I jumped to 10 there we're being sent blurry. And I dumped my phone several times in-between and still get the same end result. I don't remember if I was using RCS while on 9 either I'll have to shut it down see if it has anything to do with it.
RCS has no play on it neither does wifi or cellular data. Still blurry.

666syco said:
But on Android 9.0 with the same Google msgs app it sent fine once I jumped to 10 there we're being sent blurry. And I dumped my phone several times in-between and still get the same end result. I don't remember if I was using RCS while on 9 either I'll have to shut it down see if it has anything to do with it.
RCS has no play on it neither does wifi or cellular data. Still blurry.
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RCS is not the same as MMS and most likely has much larger file size limits, hence the screenshot not being compressed while using RCS.
But once again its all up to what your messaging app wants to do with the picture when you send it.

Jager said:
RCS is not the same as MMS and most likely has much larger file size limits, hence the screenshot not being compressed while using RCS.
But once again its all up to what your messaging app wants to do with the picture when you send it.
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Would the Carrier Services be a solution for this?

jova33 said:
Would the Carrier Services be a solution for this?
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https://lmgtfy.com/?q=carrier+services+rcs
Search is your friend.

Jager said:
https://lmgtfy.com/?q=carrier+services+rcs
Search is your friend.
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https://community.t-mobile.com/thread/150267