I've recently noticed that not many people have been getting my MMSes, and today I did some tests to figure out what was happening.
It seems like pictures sent from the Nexus One using the stock messaging app has the size cap at around 1MB. From some research, T-Mobile USA seems to cap their MMSes at 300KB. Pictures taken with the Nexus One's camera using the highest settings varies from 700KB to a little over 1MB.
When I send a 700KB picture to someone, the messaging app doesn't do any resizing or compression; it'll just send it as it is and the recipient will never get it. When I try sending the larger ones that are more than 1MB, the app will resize and/or compress to about 800KB, and as expected, the recipient won't get that either. I've even tried sending these larger MMS to my email to rule out any device/service incompatibilities on the other end, but those don't go through either.
Sending something tiny, like a 7KB or 100KB picture works just fine, which sort of verifies that there's a cap.
Well, my question is, is there a way to adjust the cap in the messaging app? I don't see any options anywhere, so I kind of doubt it. I don't really want to use a 3rd party app; I think you can set the max size in ChompSMS.
Some providers resize pictures as they're travelling across the network, simply because a lot of phones have small displays/memory and can't handle something that big. You have to tell them you're using a phone that can handle it (eg. N95 or iphone) so they stop doing it.
If Tmobile are dropping the pictures entirely then that's something for them to sort out... I'm surprised they would do that.
I just finished speaking to HTC and T-Mobile. T-Mobile confirmed that MMSes are capped at 300KB, and HTC told there's no way to change the maximum in the messaging app. All they could tell me was to take pictures at a lower resolution, which wasn't the answer I was looking for... Hopefully, when the source comes out, there will be a way to add the option in there.
I'm kind of surprised no one else has run into this issue before.
:/ well, that blows. i was a little whizzed at sprint for capping at 500kb.
your option could be get on wifi, send through email to their phone (e.g. [email protected])
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I'm using handcent sms on tmobile and handcent always resizes my images when i attach them to a message. i tried the normal messaging app and when i try to attach a picture it says "compressing image". For me handcent sms is great and definitely better than the stock app.
I took your guys' thoughts into consideration, but still ran into problems.
Sending a text using email to a T-Mobile number (##########@tmomail.net) with an attachment larger than 300KB will result in the the picture never reaching the recipient. I can't say that this won't work for any of the other carriers though.
Handcent Sms does indeed resize the picture enough to send, but it converted my 800KB picture down to 14KB. It's a little too aggressive with the conversion for my taste.
I'm just hoping that it will be a relatively easy to implement a way of changing the 1MB max size on the messaging app when the source comes out.
If anyone else has any suggestions, I'd love to hear it.
TaFFeR said:
I took your guys' thoughts into consideration, but still ran into problems.
Sending a text using email to a T-Mobile number (##########@tmomail.net) with an attachment larger than 300KB will result in the the picture never reaching the recipient. I can't say that this won't work for any of the other carriers though.
Handcent Sms does indeed resize the picture enough to send, but it converted my 800KB picture down to 14KB. It's a little too aggressive with the conversion for my taste.
I'm just hoping that it will be a relatively easy to implement a way of changing the 1MB max size on the messaging app when the source comes out.
If anyone else has any suggestions, I'd love to hear it.
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Did the 14Kb figure come from the MMS when it was received or did you check it on the phone after it was sent? I'm on O2 in the UK and they seriously butcher any MMS being sent to the Android, if I send a picture to myself its immediately obvious looking in the conversation view that what I've sent and what I've received are not the same.
I too have been having this problem. I would like to stick with the stock messaging app as well. I am sure there will be an update for this I just hope it's soon.
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Did the 14Kb figure come from the MMS when it was received or did you check it on the phone after it was sent? I'm on O2 in the UK and they seriously butcher any MMS being sent to the Android, if I send a picture to myself its immediately obvious looking in the conversation view that what I've sent and what I've received are not the same.
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I checked on both ends. This was with Handcent though, remember. When you send, it's added to the thread where you can check the file sized of the picture. I sent it to myself to my email via MMS, and it was 14Kb on that end too.
On the other hand, if I send something < 300Kb, the picture stays intact on the receiving end. I don't think T-Mobile does any processing of the MMSes in any way.
I too, have been having problems with MMS, just as you stated.
FWIW, my observations:
-Android on VZW can receive my MMS, but I get a 1kb file with nothing in it when he sends me an MMS.
-When iPhone on ATT sends me an MMS, it comes through, but when I send him an MMS, he never gets it. Strangely, when my other friend with a G1 sends him an MMS, it doesn't come through.
-Within Tmo, MMS is fine.
I don't know anyone dumb enough to use Sprint, so I can't check on that.
-I sent a photo from my Gmail app to myself, and it came out perfectly fine. 731k on both sides.
Would be nice to have an app that automatically resizes photos to the 300kb Tmo limit.
Hmm... That's weird, I can't send anything larger than 300Kb to myself or my brother who has a G1. I thought I had this figured out, but now I don't know what's going on anymore
I just checked on my phone, sending via tmo to att...one went through, but two others didnt. i may have to switch to handcent or chompsms.
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Android 2.1 currently has an issue with image compression for MMS. The default sms/mms client in Android does compress images, but it doesnt compress enough. It compresses all images so that it has a maximum image size of 2592x1944. However, for many carriers, the file size limit is around 300kb which will make you unable to send the MMS.
Luckily, there is a quick and easy way to manually edit the max sending size value..
I posted a quick guide here
Cyanogen is solving this issue in the next version of his Android ROM, but for everyone who wants a fix now or dont use Cyanogen, this guide should solve your issues
This would require root, right?
Yes it will I think, as you need root in order to push the mms.apk back in as far as i know
I wonder if T-Mobile USA has that limitation.
Does anybody know, if some carriers have a recieving MMS size limitation ?
I dont think Ive heard of a MMS receiving size limit anywhere, so dont think there is one..
How is this done in a Sense Rom? My Evo port for the HD2 doesn't have a "mms_config.xml" file..
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my n1 camera is set to take photos in 1600x1200 only (2mp?). I find that any higher is pointless because you are limitedby the low quality sensor/optics... so you are just wasting resources by using 5mp. also, a higher mp setting usually adds more noise.
Dont handcent and chomp resize automatically ?
Also let you choose max size.
You can set the max size limit on Handcent.
Settings > Send message settings > Maximum MMS size
I have noticed that people on AT&T can only receive mms at 500k or less (I'm sending pics from Tmobile).
WOW!
Thanks....Been wondering about this.
Every single U.S. carrier does transcoding on the MMSC level. Sending a larger quality file is not going to impact the picture that you receive on the other handset after the MMSC transcodes it past a certain point.
robotnoize said:
Thanks....Been wondering about this.
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Glad you found it useful!
And to the one who asked how to do it in Sense, I have no idea, as HTC's messaging app differs from the stock one.
krazichinaman said:
You can set the max size limit on Handcent.
Settings > Send message settings > Maximum MMS size
I have noticed that people on AT&T can only receive mms at 500k or less (I'm sending pics from Tmobile).
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T-Mobile i think went up to 1MB max size but AT&T uses 600KB. Most other carriers are only 300KB (maybe 350KB) still however however.
I generally lower the resolution of my photos too for exactly that reason. No point in sending "5mp" images for people to view on a ".3 - .8mp" screen. I figured 2-3mp is good enough to save to email later on or view on the PC as well as send via MMS.
Everytime I push the mms.apk back to my phone my messaging apps just fc's and won't oppen. Any suggestions?
Since installing whatsapp, stopped using sms and mms, other than replying incomings, no worries on mms size limitations anymore...
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Anyone know the solution since OP's link goes to a toolbar installer now?
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Anyone know the solution since OP's link goes to a toolbar installer now?
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Attention Moderator,
this thread is no longet relevant, and the op link go's to a malware factory...
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Just noticed this today for some reason. If I try to send an MMS to someone and I have their phone number stored as 1-234-567-8901 it will not go through, I get a permanent failure message. If I have their number stored as 1234567890, it goes through without any problems at all. Haven't seen this posted anywhere, thought it might help someone out.
Well I can't MMS messages at all. It has to do with the picture/video settings. The better the quality, the more memory it takes up and even a 10 second video clip on the highest resolution is over the sending limit.
There are specific MMS settings for picture/video and the quality looks like crap, or a phone with a 2mp camera.
I am starting to see just how horrible these android phones are. But as a formal windows mobile/iphone user, there are some things android does far better.
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Of course the quality is crap. MMS are usually limited to 300 kB on every carrier and every phone. Don't blame Android for the same limitations that are in every Windows Mobile and iPhone. If you want to send higher quality pictures or videos to someone., send them as an email attachment.
I have had to enter the phone number without the 1 at the begining also. Sometimes it's the limitations of the network, but there is also an issue in the stock rom that glitches the message and returns it as an unable to send. I do not have the same problem on CM6 though.
slughappy1 said:
Of course the quality is crap. MMS are usually limited to 300 kB on every carrier and every phone. Don't blame Android for the same limitations that are in every Windows Mobile and iPhone. If you want to send higher quality pictures or videos to someone., send them as an email attachment.
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You must not know about the 1mb maximum on most other phones (w/o having to use 3rd party apps) so yes it is an android problem.
Also most other phones don't have crappy mms quality or at least phones made past 2006. It is pathetic to see such a great quality picture/video and then not be able to send it threw mms and even email (sometimes). Then when you see just how garbage the mms settings are, that makes it twice as bad.
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donepate said:
I have had to enter the phone number without the 1 at the begining also. Sometimes it's the limitations of the network, but there is also an issue in the stock rom that glitches the message and returns it as an unable to send. I do not have the same problem on CM6 though.
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I guess that is the MMS fixes that are in the change log of CM6. I have always wondered what they changed.
Hussyfan said:
You must not know about the 1mb maximum on most other phones (w/o having to use 3rd party apps) so yes it is an android problem.
Also most other phones don't have crappy mms quality or at least phones made past 2006. It is pathetic to see such a great quality picture/video and then not be able to send it threw mms and even email (sometimes). Then when you see just how garbage the mms settings are, that makes it twice as bad.
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I grabbed the 300 kB from the MMS wikipedia page. I knew that Android defaulted to 1 mb limit for MMS. I didn't know others did though. I know that if I try and send a message to my gfs phone. It can not be over 1/2 mb, and my dads previous phone it was over 300 kB. I have never had any problem emailing a picture or video to someone. Do you have email attachment problems on your phone?
The phone itself can send a 1Mb or larger file but the carrier limits the size. It has to do with a file or something that gets checked on their servers everytime you send an MMS, if the carrier doesn't 'support' your phone it defaults to a unversal low quality message. It's a bit retarded that I get tmobiles current flagship phone, or what ever you want to call it, and they don't even seem to support it on their servers. My Blackberry 8900 could send and receive MMS messages larger than 1Mb but they limit this phone to 300kb when sending and on a good day, 50kb when receiving.
This is just great... I convince my wife that we need to switch to T-mobile... Get unlimited data plans and android phones. I get the vibrant, she gets the mt3gs... This phone is highly frustrating for her... What a piece of crap. This MMS issue is the icing on the cake
The update was suppose to fix the wifi mms issue. It did for a bit but it has come back. I think it's tmo and their data connection. I just turn off wifi and download the pic and turn it back on. No biggie.
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Is anyone else having issues sending picture mail over 2MB's???? The images just won't send, but when I reduce the size (using picsay pro) the image sends. WTF??? MMS size limit here??
Yes, I have been having that issue, I cant even send screen caps "File is too large" using stock app and also Textra; also does freaking verizon really block MMS over WiFi ??? I just moved from Sprint and I am beginning to regret it... http://i.imgur.com/lMOq8YS.jpg
This is why most everyone I know uses Telegram, Whatsapp, Hangouts.... I mean really? We pay $20/mo for MMS for these kinds of limits? lol. Wireless Carriers are loving how we let them rape us... heck, we hand them the lube and smile willingly. (yeah yeah, unlimited sms is free now, but still part of the overall plan cost).
Been having this issue on and off for awhile I believe it started before I rooted and still is happening on and off. About 50 percent of the time when someone send me a text with a pic I get a broken image like the image is broken and then sometime it comes through fine. It is getting pretty annoying and being the fact that the main phone im receiving pics from is another lg g2 on the verzion network, my phone is on the att network currently running cyanogenmod 11 04/27 version, I also add this issue on the stock software and a few other roms. Also when I send a youtube video now it sends in two separate texts causing the link to be corrupted.
I have had the same problems with my G2. I never knew when it would work or not. I seemed to have permanently fixed it by downloading a 3rd party sms app to replace the stock lg messages. I settled on chomp sms but I had to play around with a few other apps.
Next I set my mms max file size to 300k ....sending and receiving through chomp sms so far has been perfect. Not one failed send or receive.
I have looked all over for a stock messages app that will do the same.
keichler said:
I have had the same problems with my G2. I never knew when it would work or not. I seemed to have permanently fixed it by downloading a 3rd party sms app to replace the stock lg messages. I settled on chomp sms but I had to play around with a few other apps.
Next I set my mms max file size to 300k ....sending and receiving through chomp sms so far has been perfect. Not one failed send or receive.
I have looked all over for a stock messages app that will do the same.
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I like the way chomp looks so im going to try that, so you set your mms to 300kb? My is set up at 600kb by default. Ill try 300
smittyjs said:
I like the way chomp looks so im going to try that, so you set your mms to 300kb? My is set up at 600kb by default. Ill try 300
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Yeah it was the least intrusive. Default is 600 and I tried that but I would still miss receiving MMS and also I couldn't send. 300 would always work. It may be because I use an att mvno hence the crappy service.
Play around with the settings though. Hopefully something will work for you as it has for me.
I have noticed this problem since the phone came out. I know there was a mod for GS3 to stop the compression, but I have yet seen one made for this phone.
I made a similar post over in the Sprint GS5 forum and someone suggested to use a third party SMS app. Unfortunately that didn't stop the compression.
Does anyone know of a solution to this?
Hello, I don't get where this is happening to you? Is it through MMS ? Or a specific chat app?
Yes, MMS. Im using the stock messaging. The images compress to the point where it is very grainy and just awful looking. I was just wondering if there was a way or a mod to stop the compression once added to a message.
Depending on what provider you use, you may not be able to fix it. When I was on Verizon I could not get a better than about 20kb picture to send. Nothing I did from custom Roms to modded apps changed that.
I could change it with sprint, and I dont have to change it with tmo, it already sends really good pics stock. They're still compressed but they're usable.
They Textra sms/mms app. Then go manual MMS settings, and change the value of "largest mms size available". Try 300kb, 600kb and maybe 1mb. But be aware that your carrier will have a limit as well, so if you choose a value in you texting app that is over theirs, the mms will not be delivered.