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T-Mobile MMS size limits?

I've recently noticed that not many people have been getting my MMSes, and today I did some tests to figure out what was happening.
It seems like pictures sent from the Nexus One using the stock messaging app has the size cap at around 1MB. From some research, T-Mobile USA seems to cap their MMSes at 300KB. Pictures taken with the Nexus One's camera using the highest settings varies from 700KB to a little over 1MB.
When I send a 700KB picture to someone, the messaging app doesn't do any resizing or compression; it'll just send it as it is and the recipient will never get it. When I try sending the larger ones that are more than 1MB, the app will resize and/or compress to about 800KB, and as expected, the recipient won't get that either. I've even tried sending these larger MMS to my email to rule out any device/service incompatibilities on the other end, but those don't go through either.
Sending something tiny, like a 7KB or 100KB picture works just fine, which sort of verifies that there's a cap.
Well, my question is, is there a way to adjust the cap in the messaging app? I don't see any options anywhere, so I kind of doubt it. I don't really want to use a 3rd party app; I think you can set the max size in ChompSMS.

Some providers resize pictures as they're travelling across the network, simply because a lot of phones have small displays/memory and can't handle something that big. You have to tell them you're using a phone that can handle it (eg. N95 or iphone) so they stop doing it.
If Tmobile are dropping the pictures entirely then that's something for them to sort out... I'm surprised they would do that.

I just finished speaking to HTC and T-Mobile. T-Mobile confirmed that MMSes are capped at 300KB, and HTC told there's no way to change the maximum in the messaging app. All they could tell me was to take pictures at a lower resolution, which wasn't the answer I was looking for... Hopefully, when the source comes out, there will be a way to add the option in there.
I'm kind of surprised no one else has run into this issue before.

:/ well, that blows. i was a little whizzed at sprint for capping at 500kb.
your option could be get on wifi, send through email to their phone (e.g. [email protected])
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I'm using handcent sms on tmobile and handcent always resizes my images when i attach them to a message. i tried the normal messaging app and when i try to attach a picture it says "compressing image". For me handcent sms is great and definitely better than the stock app.

I took your guys' thoughts into consideration, but still ran into problems.
Sending a text using email to a T-Mobile number (##########@tmomail.net) with an attachment larger than 300KB will result in the the picture never reaching the recipient. I can't say that this won't work for any of the other carriers though.
Handcent Sms does indeed resize the picture enough to send, but it converted my 800KB picture down to 14KB. It's a little too aggressive with the conversion for my taste.
I'm just hoping that it will be a relatively easy to implement a way of changing the 1MB max size on the messaging app when the source comes out.
If anyone else has any suggestions, I'd love to hear it.

TaFFeR said:
I took your guys' thoughts into consideration, but still ran into problems.
Sending a text using email to a T-Mobile number (##########@tmomail.net) with an attachment larger than 300KB will result in the the picture never reaching the recipient. I can't say that this won't work for any of the other carriers though.
Handcent Sms does indeed resize the picture enough to send, but it converted my 800KB picture down to 14KB. It's a little too aggressive with the conversion for my taste.
I'm just hoping that it will be a relatively easy to implement a way of changing the 1MB max size on the messaging app when the source comes out.
If anyone else has any suggestions, I'd love to hear it.
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Did the 14Kb figure come from the MMS when it was received or did you check it on the phone after it was sent? I'm on O2 in the UK and they seriously butcher any MMS being sent to the Android, if I send a picture to myself its immediately obvious looking in the conversation view that what I've sent and what I've received are not the same.

I too have been having this problem. I would like to stick with the stock messaging app as well. I am sure there will be an update for this I just hope it's soon.

shuflie said:
Did the 14Kb figure come from the MMS when it was received or did you check it on the phone after it was sent? I'm on O2 in the UK and they seriously butcher any MMS being sent to the Android, if I send a picture to myself its immediately obvious looking in the conversation view that what I've sent and what I've received are not the same.
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I checked on both ends. This was with Handcent though, remember. When you send, it's added to the thread where you can check the file sized of the picture. I sent it to myself to my email via MMS, and it was 14Kb on that end too.
On the other hand, if I send something < 300Kb, the picture stays intact on the receiving end. I don't think T-Mobile does any processing of the MMSes in any way.

I too, have been having problems with MMS, just as you stated.
FWIW, my observations:
-Android on VZW can receive my MMS, but I get a 1kb file with nothing in it when he sends me an MMS.
-When iPhone on ATT sends me an MMS, it comes through, but when I send him an MMS, he never gets it. Strangely, when my other friend with a G1 sends him an MMS, it doesn't come through.
-Within Tmo, MMS is fine.
I don't know anyone dumb enough to use Sprint, so I can't check on that.
-I sent a photo from my Gmail app to myself, and it came out perfectly fine. 731k on both sides.
Would be nice to have an app that automatically resizes photos to the 300kb Tmo limit.

Hmm... That's weird, I can't send anything larger than 300Kb to myself or my brother who has a G1. I thought I had this figured out, but now I don't know what's going on anymore

I just checked on my phone, sending via tmo to att...one went through, but two others didnt. i may have to switch to handcent or chompsms.

MMS not being received by another

I sent a picture message many times to my friend and she never received it. I tried it on hanscent, chompsms, and the original messaging app and she hasnt received it. I'm on tmobile by the way. Is there a problem going on right now with the mms department?

I'm having an issue receiving MMS on my N1 on Vodafone in Ireland. I won't receive them at all even thought I have entered all the correct settings!!
Cheers,
M

bigg_daddy said:
I sent a picture message many times to my friend and she never received it. I tried it on hanscent, chompsms, and the original messaging app and she hasnt received it. I'm on tmobile by the way. Is there a problem going on right now with the mms department?
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Is the phone rooted? Do you have a custom rom installed, if so flash the rom again.

jerrycycle said:
Is the phone rooted? Do you have a custom rom installed, if so flash the rom again.
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yes it is rooted to cyanogens 5.0.4.1 i flashed it about 3 times.

i had to change certain settings to be able to send mms to iphones....

I've had issues sending mms on my unrooted n1.
I think it has something to do with the photo size (despite being compressed for mms) if i send a regular picture (always on highest resolution) the report stays on pending until failure. however if i use something like ezimba and reduce the file by say 30% it's received almost immediately...
not sure if this is the cause or not, but that's the work around i've found to get it to work...

DMaverick50 said:
i had to change certain settings to be able to send mms to iphones....
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what settings? i'm having trouble sending pictures to iphones (3gs) too.

Picture size must be under 300k (this includes the text message).
There is a setting under handcent that lets you specify the maximum size. By default it is 500k.
Change that setting and it may work better for you.

iPhone MMS not appearing on Messages but they show fine on Google Hangouts... WTH?!?

This one has me scratching my head looking for answers. I noticed this problem a while ago where my friends MMS sent from iPhones were not appearing on my Messages, I have the option for "fetch MMS automatically" and all I get is the little cloud but its blank, it only shows the time it was received, I've also tried disabling the fetch MMS automatically and even when downloading them it shows me the blank cloud. The doozy comes when I tried using Hangouts just to see what it was and to my surprise I could see all my SMS and MMS conversations from my contacts and all the pictures from the iPhone contacts were shown via Hangouts but they do not show on the stock Messages app.
Things I've tried:
1) Googling for answers only resulted in fanboyism comments and speculations that led to more fanboyism.
2) At first I tried contacting my carrier and they made me reset the APN settings to default, which I did and it was after that that I realized that it was only the iPhone MMS messages that weren't being received.
3) Tried disabling the Hangouts services via the Apps option on the settings menu. Restarted phone and still wouldn't work.
4) Been restarting my phone with each setting I change to see if it helps but no.
5) Been bugging my friends to send me MMS from their iPhones and one did get through but nothing more after that.
6) Made sure their iPhones had the setting of "Send MMS when iChat isn't available" enabled.
7) Made sure my old iPhone account was signed out of my old iPhone 4 so I wasn't receiving anymore iMessages.
I'm speculating that I either need to call my carrier again which is Claro PR and explain the situation to see if it helps, or maybe go to a store. Also, I've been thinking about Rooting my phone so I can uninstall some of the bloat, which included Hangouts but don't want to go down that path yet and I don't know if it would really help anything since I already tried disabling the service via the Apps options.
Please help me figure this out, I love this phone but this thing is bugging the hell out of me.

I have had problems with mms on hangouts and the stock app on Sprint doesn't support group mms. I have been using Go sms pro and everything works fine, including iPhone mms messages.
Hope that helps.
Sent from my Sprint LG G2.

p2cactus said:
I have had problems with mms on hangouts and the stock app on Sprint doesn't support group mms. I have been using Go sms pro and everything works fine, including iPhone mms messages.
Hope that helps.
Sent from my Sprint LG G2.
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Hmm... interesting a replacement messaging app, I would definitely keep this in mind so thanks a lot for the suggestion. I rather use the stock apps while I'm getting used to the phone since this is my first Android device but will definitely use this if resetting to factory defaults doesn't help my problem.
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Any other suggestions for my problem are welcomed.

LG didn't enable MMS group messaging on stock messages. My HTC One and S4 had the option in settings to enable it...LG left it out. If you haven't heard, TEXTRA is one of the best, fastest, light weight messaging apps that can handle iPhone group messages without the bloat on go sms and handcent. Look it up on the playstore...ratings are great and all my Android friends use it now. I've yet ran into any issues with group texting.
Sent from my JEE TWO

SKyRocKeting727 said:
LG didn't enable MMS group messaging on stock messages. My HTC One and S4 had the option in settings to enable it...LG left it out. If you haven't heard, TEXTRA is one of the best, fastest, light weight messaging apps that can handle iPhone group messages without the bloat on go sms and handcent. Look it up on the playstore...ratings are great and all my Android friends use it now. I've yet ran into any issues with group texting.
Sent from my JEE TWO
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Hi and thanks for the reply, I've looked up Textra and seems like a nice alternative and has a very clean interface, I'm currently using Hangouts from Google without a problem but would have preferred the stock message app. It's weird because I went to my carrier and they did some test and everything was fine, turns out its only MMS sent from iPhones that won't show through the Message app from G2. Maybe I should try emailing them to see if I can get some answers?

Yea only the Verizon variant supports group messages. I posted a thread about this in the Themes and Apps forum. Could be the cause.
All my friends group text me all the time and send MMS using the Verizon version Messaging app and hangouts. The stock messaging app world best though.
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[Q] Not receiving MMS images

I am using Textra on my SGS4 and have been for a while now...
I have not had a problem receiving MMS until now. All of the sudden I get a message that I can't download a picture on Textra and when I do receive it, it is a blank black square and I can't even see it.
I have images auto-download to my Downloads folder and it shows up fine but when I tap it to open the photo, it shows a broken image.
All of the people I get MMS from are iPhone users. I finally had them send it to my on email and the image came to be over 2MB.
I have also tried default sms app, Hangouts, and Hello sms to see if it was just Textra, it's not..
APN checks out normal for AT&T, rooted, 4.2.2, I377UCUAMF3
(I also went to AT&T to see if they could do something about it but as soon as I told them I rooted they told me to basically leave... Nice)
Let me know if you need any more information to help get this solved.
Thanks!

I'd check for any MMS settings in textra. I know EvolveSMS had an option to intercept MMS and not let it go to the stock messenger and it never worked. Also try turning off auto download if it's on, since that can cause issues too.
Sent from my SGH-I337 running Blackbox 3.0

Verizon MMS won't download

Having issues with download mms. Some apps work like stock and pulse, but others like yaata, mood, etc don't. I can't edit the apn settings in the native settings app, so does anyone have any suggestions?

Are you cdma_less?
If not, then search. There's a hundred messages about it.

hartleyshc said:
Are you cdma_less?
If not, then search. There's a hundred messages about it.
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Yes.

For me it seems that mms is working in some messaging apps and not others. Signal, for example, cant download mms messages but when i use the default messaging app it seemed to work okay, at least for group messages. SMS works on all and it's been set to CDMA-less

vyruzx said:
For me it seems that mms is working in some messaging apps and not others. Signal, for example, cant download mms messages but when i use the default messaging app it seemed to work okay, at least for group messages. SMS works on all and it's been set to CDMA-less
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Exactly what I'm dealing with. Yaata, textra and mood doesn't download mms at all and I use yaata so I really wanna know what a fix could be.

Psych0t1c20 said:
Exactly what I'm dealing with. Yaata, textra and mood doesn't download mms at all and I use yaata so I really wanna know what a fix could be.
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Yeah. I'm in the same boat. Everything is work on the OP6T after hours with Verizon and my own investigation. Pulse, stock, Textra, Android Messages, Chomp, Verizon message all work properly (sms/mms send/receive). Yaata and Mood won't download mms. Can't change APN on phone

I tried changing the apn via adb. It didn't save. Also tried editing the apn dB file but that made the phone shut down instantly when you get past the boot animation.

I used to use ChompSMS buy couldn't get MMS messages to download. QKSMS has been working great so far with 0 issues!!!

mpetruzz said:
I used to use ChompSMS buy couldn't get MMS messages to download. QKSMS has been working great so far with 0 issues!!!
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Just tried Qksms and it works too. Seems only Yaata and Mood won't download mms. Interesting how the most customizable sms apps are the ones that don't work properly. You'd like to think that with all the customization we'd be able to tweak it to get it to work? Sucks because I really liked Yaata; so much that I purchased it back in the early days. And I like Mood too. Wrote to their support so we will see what they say....

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Just tried Qksms and it works too. Seems only Yaata and Mood won't download mms. Interesting how the most customizable sms apps are the ones that don't work properly. You'd like to think that with all the customization we'd be able to tweak it to get it to work? Sucks because I really liked Yaata; so much that I purchased it back in the early days. And I like Mood too. Wrote to their support so we will see what they say....
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I liked chomp because it has a lock screen quick reply. But not getting MMS is kinda dealbreaker.

I just had this issue with ChompSMS. Under Settings > MMS, I changed Carrier Send Limit = 1MB, and MMS Behavior = System. Forced Closed ChompSMS and reopened it. Seems to be working ok so far most of the time.

Just to add to this I'm having the same issue downloading MMS with Signal.

Verizon user here with CDMA-less mode enabled and all that junk!
I'm running into the same issue with my 6T using Chomp. I saw this about 2 weeks ago and fixed the issue by uninstalling Chomp, then clearing the cache on MMSservice, then reinstalling Chomp. I then tested it every which way I could think of sending tests from my wifes phones (whos on ATT). All were received without issue, SMS, MMS, group texts (which send as MMS).
However now just this morning it's popping up again. Considering more than just Chomp is having the issue (based on this thread) it seems to me it's either a Pie issue, or maybe something with OOS. Searching around though I've seen a lot of people have the same issue back after just upgrading to Nougat on various phones. So if i had to guess i'd say it's more an OS level issue with our fav text apps needing a small tweet somewhere.
For reference:
OOS 9.0.7
Rooted
Call record module
Viper module

Having this issue as well. Going to try QKSMS now.

I used to use Cuomo but couldn't get MMS to work and I true everything.
Using qksms and have had 0 issues!!

Hmmm I'm still having issues with QKSMS. I'm trying to dual sim at&t and Verizon but can never never get full functionality. Closest I was able to get was AT&T fully working but only able to send with Verizon. Otherwise it's one working fully and the other not working at all.
Anyone running dual lte?
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Also, anyone tried Havoc or MIUI?

ChompSMS was updated yesterday. MMS issues still remain though.

I switched over to QKSMS after my initial post and haven't had a problem yet. Although it took a few weeks for it to show up with Chomp as well so I'm still "waiting". So odd that some of you see it constantly, where it takes a couple weeks for it to crop up for me.
Still rocking the same OS and mods as my previous post for reference:
OOS 9.0.7
Rooted
Call record module
Viper module

Working with the ChompSMS dev to get MMS working. His other app Textra seems to be working well with MMS so far.

replica9000 said:
Working with the ChompSMS dev to get MMS working. His other app Textra seems to be working well with MMS so far.
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Has he acknowledged there is a bug or are you guys still gathering data?