I've recently noticed that not many people have been getting my MMSes, and today I did some tests to figure out what was happening.
It seems like pictures sent from the Nexus One using the stock messaging app has the size cap at around 1MB. From some research, T-Mobile USA seems to cap their MMSes at 300KB. Pictures taken with the Nexus One's camera using the highest settings varies from 700KB to a little over 1MB.
When I send a 700KB picture to someone, the messaging app doesn't do any resizing or compression; it'll just send it as it is and the recipient will never get it. When I try sending the larger ones that are more than 1MB, the app will resize and/or compress to about 800KB, and as expected, the recipient won't get that either. I've even tried sending these larger MMS to my email to rule out any device/service incompatibilities on the other end, but those don't go through either.
Sending something tiny, like a 7KB or 100KB picture works just fine, which sort of verifies that there's a cap.
Well, my question is, is there a way to adjust the cap in the messaging app? I don't see any options anywhere, so I kind of doubt it. I don't really want to use a 3rd party app; I think you can set the max size in ChompSMS.
Some providers resize pictures as they're travelling across the network, simply because a lot of phones have small displays/memory and can't handle something that big. You have to tell them you're using a phone that can handle it (eg. N95 or iphone) so they stop doing it.
If Tmobile are dropping the pictures entirely then that's something for them to sort out... I'm surprised they would do that.
I just finished speaking to HTC and T-Mobile. T-Mobile confirmed that MMSes are capped at 300KB, and HTC told there's no way to change the maximum in the messaging app. All they could tell me was to take pictures at a lower resolution, which wasn't the answer I was looking for... Hopefully, when the source comes out, there will be a way to add the option in there.
I'm kind of surprised no one else has run into this issue before.
:/ well, that blows. i was a little whizzed at sprint for capping at 500kb.
your option could be get on wifi, send through email to their phone (e.g. [email protected])
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I'm using handcent sms on tmobile and handcent always resizes my images when i attach them to a message. i tried the normal messaging app and when i try to attach a picture it says "compressing image". For me handcent sms is great and definitely better than the stock app.
I took your guys' thoughts into consideration, but still ran into problems.
Sending a text using email to a T-Mobile number (##########@tmomail.net) with an attachment larger than 300KB will result in the the picture never reaching the recipient. I can't say that this won't work for any of the other carriers though.
Handcent Sms does indeed resize the picture enough to send, but it converted my 800KB picture down to 14KB. It's a little too aggressive with the conversion for my taste.
I'm just hoping that it will be a relatively easy to implement a way of changing the 1MB max size on the messaging app when the source comes out.
If anyone else has any suggestions, I'd love to hear it.
TaFFeR said:
I took your guys' thoughts into consideration, but still ran into problems.
Sending a text using email to a T-Mobile number (##########@tmomail.net) with an attachment larger than 300KB will result in the the picture never reaching the recipient. I can't say that this won't work for any of the other carriers though.
Handcent Sms does indeed resize the picture enough to send, but it converted my 800KB picture down to 14KB. It's a little too aggressive with the conversion for my taste.
I'm just hoping that it will be a relatively easy to implement a way of changing the 1MB max size on the messaging app when the source comes out.
If anyone else has any suggestions, I'd love to hear it.
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Did the 14Kb figure come from the MMS when it was received or did you check it on the phone after it was sent? I'm on O2 in the UK and they seriously butcher any MMS being sent to the Android, if I send a picture to myself its immediately obvious looking in the conversation view that what I've sent and what I've received are not the same.
I too have been having this problem. I would like to stick with the stock messaging app as well. I am sure there will be an update for this I just hope it's soon.
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Did the 14Kb figure come from the MMS when it was received or did you check it on the phone after it was sent? I'm on O2 in the UK and they seriously butcher any MMS being sent to the Android, if I send a picture to myself its immediately obvious looking in the conversation view that what I've sent and what I've received are not the same.
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I checked on both ends. This was with Handcent though, remember. When you send, it's added to the thread where you can check the file sized of the picture. I sent it to myself to my email via MMS, and it was 14Kb on that end too.
On the other hand, if I send something < 300Kb, the picture stays intact on the receiving end. I don't think T-Mobile does any processing of the MMSes in any way.
I too, have been having problems with MMS, just as you stated.
FWIW, my observations:
-Android on VZW can receive my MMS, but I get a 1kb file with nothing in it when he sends me an MMS.
-When iPhone on ATT sends me an MMS, it comes through, but when I send him an MMS, he never gets it. Strangely, when my other friend with a G1 sends him an MMS, it doesn't come through.
-Within Tmo, MMS is fine.
I don't know anyone dumb enough to use Sprint, so I can't check on that.
-I sent a photo from my Gmail app to myself, and it came out perfectly fine. 731k on both sides.
Would be nice to have an app that automatically resizes photos to the 300kb Tmo limit.
Hmm... That's weird, I can't send anything larger than 300Kb to myself or my brother who has a G1. I thought I had this figured out, but now I don't know what's going on anymore
I just checked on my phone, sending via tmo to att...one went through, but two others didnt. i may have to switch to handcent or chompsms.
this seems to be a somewhat common problem. the messaging application does not resize or compress photos (enough) so they can be sent as mms. i can send photos taken inside the messaging app. and i can send saved iphone photos that have been sent to me. but i cannot send photos taken using the camera app as an mms.
does anyone know of a fix?
use Handcent SMS ... allows you to specify a max MMS message size.
i know. i tried it last night. but i dont see why i should have to use a 3rd party application when the stock messaging app should work.
rockyxda said:
use Handcent SMS ... allows you to specify a max MMS message size.
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I don't like using 3rd party apps for something that should be built-in either, but that's the workaround I've been using until there's a fix.
Hey everyone, I'm diggin the gtizzle other than one small problem. Everytime I want to send a pic (on stock messaging app) it always shows as a slide show..I never had this problem on my g1 and can't figure it out, a friend said you can send a pic that isn't a slideshow using handscent but I don't like that app, any other solution?
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Nope. I just set handcent to look like the messaging app. Problem solved. I'm assuming they'll fix this in an update.
Handcent is really way better tho. You should just set it as ur default app..
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I use ChompSMS because I've always preferred it over the native app. I just want the LED in the speakergrill to be enabled so I can use my color coded alerts again. There are a few software bugs already causing pretty big issues so I am hoping an OTA update is on the way soon
I've noticed whenever I send MMS, the messaging app will compress the **** out of the picture where the recipient can't see anything; it becomes very small and compressed to the point where they can't see the persons face in the picture.
Is there anyway to adjust this feature? I know blackberries don't always compress their pictures and if I do get a MMS from an iPhone or BB, it looks clear and not compressed to the point where it looks like ****. It shouldn't be a carrier issue neither, there has to be a way to adjust it. Thanks
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Yeah it's a known issue and those assholes should have fixed it by now.
try using handcent.
does handcent create diff inboxes for sms and mms?
I use Handcent and it still compresses it IMO. Sent a pict to my boss yesterday and she responded with WTF is that?
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I use Handcent and it still compresses it IMO. Sent a pict to my boss yesterday and she responded with WTF is that?
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lol i know
but thats why i anytime im sending something now i send it through email
Replace it with the CM6 MMS app and you will no longer get over-compressed images
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=834106
My friend has an iPhone 4. When he sends me a pic through mms i get "your phone is not compatible with this message type or size. portions of this message will not be displayed". he is just sending a picture he took not anything else. i reboot and ask him to resend and still no luck. the only thing that does work is when he zooms in on the pic then takes a screenshot of it then sends it to me.
Does anyone know why this happens? its pretty annoying.
i attached a screenshot of how it looks
Lol, check the size of pictures. I think mms only supports 640x to 320x
I have this probleme too when I send one mms picture to a old phone. I resize and works
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Maybe try a different sms app like GoSMS? That's what I've been using and haven't had any issues with mms... plus it allows me to zoom into pictures which the stock text messaging app wouldn't allow.
That makes sense. It would be great if there wasn't any ristriction. Or like if would automatically resize the picture before it revives or something lol.
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I also use handcent. It gives me the same problem. I'm gonna try the application you mentioned. Hopefully it works for me.
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Interesting.... I've received pictures from my brothers iPhone 4 just fine. That's using the stock text messaging app.