I purchased an evo for both me and my wife. A friend of mine did the same as well. It seemed like a good deal at the time and the phone seems to be good quality overall...
However, when messaging back and forth quickly, messages disappear from the thread and cannot be seen in any way. All that I receive is a notification. This has happened for all of us. Messages are also often received in the wrong order.
Would the situation be any better if I was using plain android instead of the buggy sense UI? It looks like the froyo rom is making good progress.. I'm going to try it, but if it's still as buggy as it is stock, Sprint will be getting 4 EVOs returned.
Try another messaging app like handcent or chomp. You have choices.
No problems here, and I'm on my 2nd Android phone. Both have worked great with no problems such as yours.
Seems like more of a rant then a request for help. that being said, my family has 5 Evo's between us and we have had not one complaint with the SMS. possibly sprint service in the area? i know when i'm in smaller towns the sms seems to lag, almost like its stuck in queue somewhere before being sent to me.
good luck mate!
Use Handcent. Problem solved. The stock app is slow and sucks.
If you hate it, go back to the iPhone where you obviously came from?
Now to try to find a question to answer within all that complaining....... hmmm... oh yes, I'm having issues with the SMS coming in odd orders occasionally. I did not ever experience this with my Hero.
So what I can derive from that is that this particular release of Sense, which is NOT Android, has a bug. You need to differentiate between the OS and the VERY deep reaching Sense UI that HTC puts on top.
I'd tell you to wait for the ROM development to pick up, but something tells me you're not a tinkerer. The iPhone is a fantastic phone.. you just can't tinker as much as you can with Android. So with Android you'll have choices but you'll have bugs. It's just something I come to expect.
It's like running Linux. Sure it's trendy to hate Microsoft, but holy hell there are a lot of problems with Linux apps in design, UI, and in general stability (Note, I didn't say Linux has problems.. I said apps. Because it's the crap on top of the underlying system I have complaints with). I still love it, I just have to approach it with an attitude that it's not going to be as polished as OS X, and it's not going to be as stable either.
Welcome to Open Source and the stuff people put out with it.
After hearing everyone praise handcent I decided to give it a try myself and wow is it better. Choice is very nice
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Edited to remove ranting, I'll give handcent a shot. Hopefully it doesn't lose random messages =(.
I've gotten some messages out of order, but that's about it.
If I try Handcent and somehow don't like it, is it easy to revert back to the original built-in messaging app?
pekosROB said:
I've gotten some messages out of order, but that's about it.
If I try Handcent and somehow don't like it, is it easy to revert back to the original built-in messaging app?
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Nevermind I realize it's an independent app. I just replaced my Messaging icon with the Handcent one on the homescreen.
BTW, anyone using handcent have a problem sending MMS?
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Nevermind I realize it's an independent app. I just replaced my Messaging icon with the Handcent one on the homescreen.
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Just make sure you disable notifications in the stock app so you don't get double notifications. That's annoying.
Also, I haven't had any problems with MMS while using Handcent.
afazel said:
Just make sure you disable notifications in the stock app so you don't get double notifications. That's annoying.
Also, I haven't had any problems with MMS while using Handcent.
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Thanks, I totally noticed that too. But it looks like if I disable notifications in the notification bar then it doesn't let me make sure it plays a sound.
Does handcent control that on its own so it doesn't matter if the sound is disabled on the stock messaging app?
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Thanks, I totally noticed that too. But it looks like if I disable notifications in the notification bar then it doesn't let me make sure it plays a sound.
Does handcent control that on its own so it doesn't matter if the sound is disabled on the stock messaging app?
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Handcent has its own notification settings.
Jye75 said:
Handcent has its own notification settings.
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Thanks, I turned off the messaging app notification and it still notified me when I got a text.
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BTW, anyone using handcent have a problem sending MMS?
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Yea I have that problem alot I usually use built in messaging for MMS and handcent for all other SMS. I never have a problem receiving MMS with handcent just sending.
I prefer chomp, and have had no issues. well maybe one, or two texts out of order. Like if the sender typed a "two page" text and sent, then sent a short text the short one might come in before the second half of the "two page" text.
roybotnik said:
I purchased an evo for both me and my wife. A friend of mine did the same as well. It seemed like a good deal at the time and the phone seems to be good quality overall...
However, when messaging back and forth quickly, messages disappear from the thread and cannot be seen in any way. All that I receive is a notification. This has happened for all of us. Messages are also often received in the wrong order.
Would the situation be any better if I was using plain android instead of the buggy sense UI? It looks like the froyo rom is making good progress.. I'm going to try it, but if it's still as buggy as it is stock, Sprint will be getting 4 EVOs returned.
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that doesn't happen with my sms app but it does happen with my google mail from time to time.
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Yea I have that problem alot I usually use built in messaging for MMS and handcent for all other SMS. I never have a problem receiving MMS with handcent just sending.
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I ran some tests and I can send over 3g it's only when wifi is enabled. So I did some research and found out sprint only sends MMS over their connections. The default messaging app will bypass wifi and use 3g to send mms. Handcent had patched this for the Hero.
I'd like to put in a plug for ChompSMS. I hadn't used it before, but people were saying that it automatically resizes your pictures when sending MMS. Maybe this isn't a problem on the Evo, but it was on the Hero. I will occasionally get a text out of order if someone sends me a long one that is broken up into more than 2 messages. But, I really like it's interface better than Handcent, which I have also used. As far as I know, I have never had a text go missing when using Chomp.
Android is all about choice. It's really nice to have all these choices and these are FREE (as in beer).
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ok, so since doing the update to 2.1 me as well as everyone i know who have done this have had the problem of getting "failed delivery" notifications for almost all text messages even though they actually send, ive changed every setting i can possibly think of in built in messaging app and handcent
any help would be greatly appreciated, this is getting to be INCREDIBLY annoying
*228 SEND
Fixes alot of network problems. Pick option 1, wait for phone to restart, and see what happens.
tried that, with option 1 and 2, no go
i had the exact same problem, just rebooted the phone and it fixed itself (I also use handcent as my sms client, that might be where this bug is coming from).
This happens only with HandcentSMS or also with your stock messaging app? I had the same problem but only with HandcentSMS, the thing was it'd still be sending the message out an everytime I hit retry I ended up sending a duplicate message. Eventually the notifications became annoying and I switched to ChompSMS, haven't had a problem since.
I'm assuming it's solely a HandcentSMS problem an you just messed with your stock messaging options to see if that was the issue? Let me know.
It's something with the early 2.1 update on the Eris, it isn't compatible with something in the app, I'm not completely phone savvy so I'm not very technical with my terms but you get the idea.
I started getting this...so just switch from handcent to another sms app?
yeah im using chomp, or you can just ignore it because the message still sends it just doesnt register with the app as sending
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ok, so since doing the update to 2.1 me as well as everyone i know who have done this have had the problem of getting "failed delivery" notifications for almost all text messages even though they actually send, ive changed every setting i can possibly think of in built in messaging app and handcent
any help would be greatly appreciated, this is getting to be INCREDIBLY annoying
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I only had this problem when using Handcent and i agree it was very annoying....switched to Chompsms and I haven't had the error once....
rvpartsguy said:
I only had this problem when using Handcent and i agree it was very annoying....switched to Chompsms and I haven't had the error once....
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I cant seem to find Chomp SMS anymore in the Market since going to 2.1 does anyone have the APK they can send me or tell me why I am being an idiot and screwing the search up lol
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I cant seem to find Chomp SMS anymore in the Market since going to 2.1 does anyone have the APK they can send me or tell me why I am being an idiot and screwing the search up lol
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its not in the market on the 2.1 for some reason but you can go to http://www.chompsms.com i think it is and download it there
it's handcent thats the problem, but it IS actually sending the message, the app just doesnt realize it
ok, so i "fixed" it, sort of, heres how
i uninstalled handcent, rebooted phone, reinstalled, set all settings, *228 option 1, rebooted phone
works 98% of the time now, completely bearable, to me at least
i love handcent, the popup thing is the best thing ever in my opinion, chomp dont do it, so i really wanted to get handcent working right
happened to me with handcent as well.. wife got lots of dupes. I switched to chomp till handcent releases update
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ok, so i "fixed" it, sort of, heres how
i uninstalled handcent, rebooted phone, reinstalled, set all settings, *228 option 1, rebooted phone
works 98% of the time now, completely bearable, to me at least
i love handcent, the popup thing is the best thing ever in my opinion, chomp dont do it, so i really wanted to get handcent working right
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what popup thing you referring to? when it doesnt send? (obviously when it works right)
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i love handcent, the popup thing is the best thing ever in my opinion, chomp dont do it, so i really wanted to get handcent working right
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If you're talking about the popup when you receive a new message (with options to type a reply, open the message, call, etc.), then Chomp does have that capability; it's just turned off by default. In the settings, it's called "Quick Reply."
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If you're talking about the popup when you receive a new message (with options to type a reply, open the message, call, etc.), then Chomp does have that capability; it's just turned off by default. In the settings, it's called "Quick Reply."
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yeah, chomp does have it, i noticed though that i cant get it to make the messages private it'll pop up over the lock screen.
but if i miss the text an my screen goes off, its back to the lockscreen when i turn it on which is fine i prefer that, but it doesnt show the notification icon up top so sometimes i think i have no messages an wont even unlock the phone when i really do. maybe i overlooked the setting, but it shows up at first (the notification) and then its gone once the screen goes off an is turned back on
I noticed that all of us have SMS messages threaded in the wrong order. When you reply right away it places the new message on top of the old one. I seen the Vibrants default messaging app and looks a lot like Handcent. Can we get the Vibrant messaging app and install on the Epic?
I believe this difference is the fact that the Epic runs a different and lower version of touchwiz unlike all the other galaxy S phones. I realized the captivate has different messaging.
I believe that's one of the changes that ll come with the Froyo update. Which is hopefully soon, the phones been out for a month...lol.
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I noticed that all of us have SMS messages threaded in the wrong order. When you reply right away it places the new message on top of the old one. I seen the Vibrants default messaging app and looks a lot like Handcent. Can we get the Vibrant messaging app and install on the Epic?
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Sorry, but my SMS thread in the right order. No problem here.
when it places the sms out of order like that it's because you replied to a msg before your phone got it...happens to me all the time on my moment and it happens now on my epic every now and then also.
You should look at some 3rd party sms/msg programs in the market or just wait for 2.2 and developers
I am having a right mare! I use Handcent, however I keep getting dual notifications. One from Handcent and one from the stock SMS App. I have turned off Notifications from within the stock App and still they come through.
I have even gone so far as removing the MMS/SMS App with root explorer and still they persist. It is frankly driving me mental. I want to keep ONLY the Handcent one.
Can anyone suggest anywhere to look? I am rooted with Pauls R10 Modaco ROM!
You forgot to disable notifications from the stock app settings which I believe are connected to but not accessible from the stock settings.
Sent from 1.5GHz CM7 Nexus S.
Same issue I had. I went into the stock messaging app, under menu, settings, notifications, unchecked the box. That worked for me.
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As per the original title I have gone into the Stock App and settings menu from there and disabled them and they still pop up.
You actually did not mention that and frankly I'm inclined to believe that it is still the issue as there would be no other reason I can think of why they would be coming up.
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As per the original title I have gone into the Stock App and settings menu from there and disabled them and they still pop up.
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Sent from 1.5GHz CM7 Nexus S.
On second thoughts I wonder if this is coming from Elsewhere
If I enable notifications in the stock App I get The smiley face symbol with sender name and message, Handcent notification AND a 3rd one which seems to be the problem one. This simply sats You have New Message(s) You have an unread message. Also when the SMS is read this does not go away either
So where the hell is that one coming from LOL?
kenvan19 said:
You actually did not mention that and frankly I'm inclined to believe that it is still the issue as there would be no other reason I can think of why they would be coming up.
Sent from 1.5GHz CM7 Nexus S.
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I wasnt trying to be picky there! Please dont get me wrong! I meant first post which I did state about trying what you suggested from my first post a quote: I have turned off Notifications from within the stock App and still they come through.
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On second thoughts I wonder if this is coming from Elsewhere
If I enable notifications in the stock App I get The smiley face symbol with sender name and message, Handcent notification AND a 3rd one which seems to be the problem one. This simply sats You have New Message(s) You have an unread message. Also when the SMS is read this does not go away either
So where the hell is that one coming from LOL?
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You mean when you enable notifications you get a 3rd popup that is the smiley face in a chat bubble? What happens when you open the unknown notification? What app opens? And if its the stock messaging app, try clearing its defaults.
That is correct about the smiley face chat bubble. When the notification pops up it will open up Handcent. I have tried clearing the defaults as well with no joy.
i had this problem when i was using Handcent
so i removed it
now i'm using GO SMS, same as handcent but better, and it does not have the problem that handcent was having
i only get 1 sms/mms alert instead of 2 when handcent is installed
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I am having a right mare! I use Handcent, however I keep getting dual notifications. One from Handcent and one from the stock SMS App. I have turned off Notifications from within the stock App and still they come through.
I have even gone so far as removing the MMS/SMS App with root explorer and still they persist. It is frankly driving me mental. I want to keep ONLY the Handcent one.
Can anyone suggest anywhere to look? I am rooted with Pauls R10 Modaco ROM!
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OK I will give that one a bash then see if it solves it.
No joy, GoSMS just crashes on me. I still get the message even after uninstalling Handcent as well with the stock App
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No joy, GoSMS just crashes on me. I still get the message even after uninstalling Handcent as well with the stock App
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which ROM are you using?
maybe try another ROM?
Using Modaco r10. Might try another or a fresh install.
Anyone use any app for sending/receiving sms, other than stock, GoSMS, Handcent or Chomp?
I don't like the stock because customising is very limited. GoSMS always conflicts with the stock app for me, even if I turn off notifications in stock the LED doesn't flash. Handcent is okay but is missing something, though I can't put my finger on what. Chomp is ok but the advertising and spam sms p!55 me off.
Any other apps available that you'd recommend?
Chomp is great
It only gives an intro sms on first install. Also i bought it(they don't use paypal anymore) so i don't worry about ads.(of course there are other ways to get rid of those, but we don't talk about that on here)
Have you tried Pansi SMS. I havent actually used it but looks decent enough.
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Have you tried Pansi SMS. I havent actually used it but looks decent enough.
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Looks and feels like a rip-off of GoSMS. Even the screenshots on the market are similar
for me gosms is the best, because you can customize virtually everything and they add new features all the time. great customer support btw
i dont have any problems with stock sms interfering with gosms
Can also recommend go sms.
What is a good ad free text messaging app? I used to run MIUI and LOVE their texting ap. But MIUI isn't working right for me now so switched to CM11. And while I like it the lack of a good text messenger sucks.
I send lots of MMS messages because of work, and I have 3 different gmail accounts logged in on my phone, and while hangouts is boarderline ok, the fact that I get sign in issues because of the two accounts I don't use hangouts with and then the fact that I have to select what account to send the mms over, it's just a pain, and not nearly as smooth as I think it should be, or that it was.
I have tried and tried to find the APK for the MIUI texting ap so I could just install that, but I just can't find it.
Please help me find a suitable replacement. I don't mind paying the few bucks for it, but it has to be worth it without being all bloat ware, I don't care if it has 9999 different emoticons. I just want to be able to text and send good resolution MMS.
Thanks,
PS, being able to schedule text messages would be awesome too.
Chomp
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Jeffrey000 said:
What is a good ad free text messaging app?
Please help me find a suitable replacement. I don't mind paying the few bucks for it, but it has to be worth it without being all bloat ware, I don't care if it has 9999 different emoticons. I just want to be able to text and send good resolution MMS.
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I'm enjoying EvolveSMS a lot. Frequently updated and very smooth. Nice design, a good amount of features and it handles MMS fairly well depending on your carrier.
Google Play - EvolveSMS
The free version is ok but to get the full app and all its awesome extra little features i think its got $2 of in app purchases
Also has backing up to dropbox/google drive and what not
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I'm enjoying EvolveSMS a lot. Frequently updated and very smooth. Nice design, a good amount of features and it handles MMS fairly well depending on your carrier.
Google Play - EvolveSMS
The free version is ok but to get the full app and all its awesome extra little features i think its got $2 of in app purchases
Also has backing up to dropbox/google drive and what not
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Both of those list MMS issues. But will be trying both.
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Both of those list MMS issues. But will be trying both.
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I had MMS issues like 3 weeks ago but they have since been resolved and improved quite a bit.
My favourite SMS app so far, offers quick reply popup settings as well plus themes are amazing.
Also allows sliding between conversations and a nice pull out list of convos.
Seriously once you try it i find it hard to believe you'll end up wanting to use anything else.
Handcent sms. Worked ceven w apn issues on sprint mms where others dailee
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Jeffrey000 said:
What is a good ad free text messaging app? I used to run MIUI and LOVE their texting ap. But MIUI isn't working right for me now so switched to CM11. And while I like it the lack of a good text messenger sucks.
I send lots of MMS messages because of work, and I have 3 different gmail accounts logged in on my phone, and while hangouts is boarderline ok, the fact that I get sign in issues because of the two accounts I don't use hangouts with and then the fact that I have to select what account to send the mms over, it's just a pain, and not nearly as smooth as I think it should be, or that it was.
I have tried and tried to find the APK for the MIUI texting ap so I could just install that, but I just can't find it.
Please help me find a suitable replacement. I don't mind paying the few bucks for it, but it has to be worth it without being all bloat ware, I don't care if it has 9999 different emoticons. I just want to be able to text and send good resolution MMS.
Thanks,
PS, being able to schedule text messages would be awesome too.
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I've been using Hello SMS and I really like it. It's got a different and I think better UI than anything else I have tried.
Jeffrey000 said:
What is a good ad free text messaging app? I used to run MIUI and LOVE their texting ap. But MIUI isn't working right for me now so switched to CM11. And while I like it the lack of a good text messenger sucks.
I send lots of MMS messages because of work, and I have 3 different gmail accounts logged in on my phone, and while hangouts is boarderline ok, the fact that I get sign in issues because of the two accounts I don't use hangouts with and then the fact that I have to select what account to send the mms over, it's just a pain, and not nearly as smooth as I think it should be, or that it was.
I have tried and tried to find the APK for the MIUI texting ap so I could just install that, but I just can't find it.
Please help me find a suitable replacement. I don't mind paying the few bucks for it, but it has to be worth it without being all bloat ware, I don't care if it has 9999 different emoticons. I just want to be able to text and send good resolution MMS.
Thanks,
PS, being able to schedule text messages would be awesome too.
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If you're a Uber-texter,
Sliding Messsaging Pro:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.klinker.android.messaging_donate
Evolve is okay, But it's essentially a pared down version of Sliding Messagin Pro (even made by the same people)--except for the funky UI. It looks nice, but it's wonky to use:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.klinker.android.evolve_sms
Handcent is another beloved SMS app…It's been around for eons and is a favorite around here. It's got every feature a bacon-loving man could ever want…but it's butt ugly:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.handcent.nextsms
Go SMS Pro -- Essentially on par with handcent. But it has a downside. Even though it's one of the most customizable of the bunch….it takes hours to configure, and even then, just like GO Keyboard, it loves to place big buttons in places you don't want them, and it hides obscure details and features deep within the config and settings….which means that you'll find random numbers and other metadata in your inbox, not really understand what they mean, and then you'll spend the next 20-30 mins trying to figure out how to get rid of them. While this is probably the most-heavily-themed of the bunch, the themes are almost universally garbage. They're unpolished-- the whole lot of them. It's nearly impossible to find a theme that actually skins/themes absolutely everything. Dev's choice of colors, graphics, design is questionable at best. Lastly, the GO Dev team's relentless drive towards integration means that any day now, your app will update and you'll suddenly find out that your SMS app is now your dialer, your lock screen, your camera app, and your flashlight app. Oh…and they'll want you to pay for the "prime" version of every one of those apps-- with GETJAR Gold.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jb.gosms
Other options:
Hangouts now integrates SMS into your Hangouts inbox.
ATT Messaging App-- will integrate voicemail, SMS, MMS, and a few other things like account notifications into a single box for you…which is really, really nice…but the app is also really, really ugly.
There are also apps like SMS Popup which will give you the chance to respond to an incoming message via a notification action or popup.
Lastly, you can just find a AOSP SMS app, configure it, and then theme it with XPosed's XTheme.
Good luck.
Textra
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I can't read jamesboy's post, but I think I see a link to a klinker app... Sliding Messaging. Great texting app imho. MMS was a problem until very recently with it, but that appears to be fixed.
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Try the sms app 8sms