I know that google has said you need 1 ghz and 512 megs of ram (and a bigger screen) to run gingerbread, but do you think there is any chance a slimmed down version could make it's way to the HTC magic?
Or is the HTC magic with 2.2 froyo the most advanced we'll get until we go for another upgrade?
I mean, considering the fact that the HTC magic doesn't even have a graphics processor, it's horribly out of date and runs poorly, so an upgrade is certainly worth it.
There's no sure information what I have found on the matter, but maybe yes - but it needs a lot of work, for all the differences.
Even if the SDK derived sneak peek rom seems to work somehow, IDK if it really could be ported.
I'm satisfied with Froyo & and it's features right now.. But OFC would like to donate to those who would port. CM would be best?
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I just read this on engadget
http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/sense-ui-update-for-htc-magic-makes-the-scene-in-taiwan/
Well its for Magic which is essentially dream. so lets hope one of our Devs get a dump of this rom add the english language and we'll finally have FULL Sense UI in our G1s
My_Name_Is_Neo said:
I just read this on engadget
http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/sense-ui-update-for-htc-magic-makes-the-scene-in-taiwan/
Well its for Magic which is essentially dream. so lets hope one of our Devs get a dump of this rom add the english language and we'll finally have FULL Sense UI in our G1s
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We already have the sense dump for the magic, and it's already been ported. Buuuuut it's for the 32A, the 288mb ram model, just like the Hero. Apparently it's the fastest yet, but it's still meant for hardware with a 1/3 more ram.
I believe the Google branded phones are the 32Bs which have the same ram as the G1 (192mb) so it would would make sense (pun intended) for them not to get the update (RAM wise + licensing).
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We already have the sense dump for the magic, and it's already been ported. Buuuuut it's for the 32A, the 288mb ram model, just like the Hero. Apparently it's the fastest yet, but it's still meant for hardware with a 1/3 more ram.
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Aahh.. so thats the "Sence UI" roms floating around. well i think days of my G1 are limited then, as most of the new roms will be for the new HTC or Motorola hardware with more ram. We have been trying Compcache & Swap but its still not up to the mark. forget Cyan's ROM even the T-Mo's 1.6 without modification runs faster than any of the Hero Roms.
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Aahh.. so thats the "Sence UI" roms floating around. well i think days of my G1 are limited then, as most of the new roms will be for the new HTC or Motorola hardware with more ram. We have been trying Compcache & Swap but its still not up to the mark. forget Cyan's ROM even the T-Mo's 1.6 without modification runs faster than any of the Hero Roms.
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Yup, the Sholes/Droid sounds awesome on paper, seems like much more of an upgrade than the Cliq. I'd buy one the second it's released if I had the cash.
While the N1 has a healthy 512mb of memory, the Desire has 576mb. I was thinking, if everything really is the same hardware (the N1 also has a FM radio on its chip too, its just not used for whatever reason..) then maybe the N1 has that memory locked off somewhere. Or something. I was just thinking, because that would be a questionable move by HTC to add ONLY 60mb...your thoughts?
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While the N1 has a healthy 512mb of memory, the Desire has 576mb. I was thinking, if everything really is the same hardware (the N1 also has a FM radio on its chip too, its just not used for whatever reason..) then maybe the N1 has that memory locked off somewhere. Or something. I was just thinking, because that would be a questionable move by HTC to add ONLY 60mb...your thoughts?
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Never thought of it before...Sounds reasonable and considering the HD2.... Definitely Possible
On another note this might be general discussion
I figured they tacked on that little bit more of RAM so that their resource whore can run faster on the desire than the nexus.
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I figured they tacked on that little bit more of RAM so that their resource whore can run faster on the desire than the nexus.
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ya i would think they did it because HTC Sense requires a lil more resources than the stock UI, ie RAM. but maybe it is locked off somewhere. if it is....we will find it!
Is it even really confirmed that this particular development rom has it enabled? It might not even be in the build.
Iman07 said:
ya i would think they did it because HTC Sense requires a lil more resources than the stock UI, ie RAM. but maybe it is locked off somewhere. if it is....we will find it!
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I don't think they gave the Desire extra RAM to run Sense. Why? Well right now on my N1 I'm running the Sense Alpha 3 rom from Modaco and I have 385MB total and only 68% of it is being used and the phone is still very smooth. I really don't know why they added extra RAM but it doesn't really mean much for Android.
On the MWC i have seen that the Desire has only 80-65 MB free. On my Nexus i have 120 (will on the stocked rom )
The Nexus runs faster than the Desire. And i think google will support (with new updates) the Nexus longer than htc it will do.
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On the MWC i have seen that the Desire has only 80-65 MB free. On my Nexus i have 120 (will on the stocked rom )
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And I got around 300MB free when killin some more tasks (on CM 5.0.3)
I think google is brilliant if they have done that... this way they can have 2 "Performance enhancing" updates without really having to do anything but release a new kernal, which they should already have the code for.
I doubt it has anything to do with Sense UI.
Why? :
- The HTC Legend runs the same version of Android with Sense UI fine with only 384MB Ram
- The Hero also runs Sense UI fine with 192MB Ram
crazy cat said:
On the MWC i have seen that the Desire has only 80-65 MB free. On my Nexus i have 120 (will on the stocked rom )
The Nexus runs faster than the Desire. And i think google will support (with new updates) the Nexus longer than htc it will do.
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Really, did you get test a commercially available HTC Desire? They're both similar and equal phones, no point trying to justify your choice, Nexus is a brilliant phone, so is the Desire.
One thing, Nexus does have is faster updates. It is after all a PROPER GooglePhone. HTC have yet to update their old Flagship HTC Hero. Other than that Nexus and Desire are similar except for a little bit more ram, FM radio and removal of dual mic. (Sense UI may be a difference, but do the great devs on XDA, it's isn't really an advantage for Desire, although at most, it may not work 100% compared to the official Desire Sense UI, a small fixable fault).
Desire has 80-65MB Free? Wut? I think you saw that wrong, Lol.
Hi guys,
im trying to get my phone jtaged so i can finally have it rooted. are there any suggestions on the best mod to use for the g1? i know we have limited memeory and i beleive we cant even run 2.0 or 2.1 on the phone is that correct?
THanks!
does this mean we get 2.1!!!
Posted by Cyanogen in Home on May 21, 2010
A whole bunch of us have been working hard to get Android 2.1 (CM 5.0.7) running perfect on the HTC Dream and Magic phones and I think it’s nearly ready to go. This release is almost exactly the same as the Nexus One and Droid versions of CM now, minus a few of the heavier apps.
This was an incredible community effort and I hope everyone likes the result. Breathing new life into old hardware is always awesome.
I expect that a stable release of 5.0.7 should be ready for all devices in the next few days.
And after that.. Google has confirmed that Android 2.2 (FroYo) will be available for ION phones, so it’s guaranteed that CM-6 will continue to support the G1 also when the source code hits AOSP.
Cyanogen 5.0.7test7 runs pretty sweetly on my G1 and its based on 2.1
does it lag at all? are there any limitations that i should know of
I find it ok with comcache enabled, around the same speed (if not a little quicker) then the stable based on 1.6.
It is still a "test / experimental" build though, so proceed at your own risk etc...
Link to the download and details - http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/index....ic-would-you-like-a-pony-v507-test7-05222010/
Changelog for test7 - http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php/Release_Notes#5.0.7-DS-test7_.28experimental.29
omgkush said:
Hi guys,
im trying to get my phone jtaged so i can finally have it rooted. are there any suggestions on the best mod to use for the g1? i know we have limited memeory and i beleive we cant even run 2.0 or 2.1 on the phone is that correct?
THanks!
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Running the Rom on my signature which is CyanogenMod5, latest version themed and tweaked. It is a 2.1 and is running very fast/stable so far. Major downside is the battery life however and is a bit hard to get used to vs. a 1.6 Donut Rom.
In all honesty Id say you try SuperD v1.11 (Best Donut Rom in my opinion) first and then flash the Eclair Roms later on. Sooner or later I am sure a developer will improve the battery degradation problem on the 2.1's.
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I find it ok with comcache enabled, around the same speed (if not a little quicker) then the stable based on 1.6.
It is still a "test / experimental" build though, so proceed at your own risk etc...
Link to the download and details - http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/index....ic-would-you-like-a-pony-v507-test7-05222010/
Changelog for test7 - http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php/Release_Notes#5.0.7-DS-test7_.28experimental.29
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Its been released "stable"
omgkush said:
Hi guys,
im trying to get my phone jtaged so i can finally have it rooted. are there any suggestions on the best mod to use for the g1?
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And what, might I ask, is a "g1"?
This phone you speak of is an HTC phone called "DREAM".
i know we have limited memeory
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That statement is absurd. EVERYTHING has limited memory. Unlimited memory is by definition IMPOSSIBLE, even the smallest memory component possible would consume more than the total available space in the universe to produce unlimited/infinite memory. In fact, it would consume the space consumed by INFINITE UNIVERSES. Inconceivably huge, eh?
and i beleive we cant even run 2.0 or 2.1 on the phone is that correct?
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And just where did you come up with this nonsense? Do you realize that all the chicken littles in the world will always say "your old hardware will never see this!" -- fact is that this is NOT WINDOZE!! Just because windoze phones don't get to see the newer versions does NOT mean that WE won't get to see our newer versions.
**** this guy is annoying with this rooting ****...
You push too much dude. People don't want to work on your phones cause your too pushy
You start threads about the same thing.....useless
I like my magic very much. But it is getting older.
So, i was wondering, if i should exchange it for a Hero.
Yes, yes, i know about the nexus and the others, but they are WAY out of what i want to spend in a phone.
So, basically, i want a faster magic, better if it has more RAM, and since the hero would officially support support 2.1 i thought it should be faster.
But then I read rants from people telling that it runs 2.1 not very good. So, what gives? Is it able to run 2.1 (stock/vanilla) at correct speed?
My Magic does, so I assume the here would. I'm right?
Any other advantages? (besides the camera).
And last, are all HEROS, SOFT ROOTABLE? I do not want to do JTAGS. I have no problem with gold cards.
i dont think there is a stock 2.1 for the hero
we are still waiting for it
sigh
As far as I understand, it has been already scheduled, and released for some versions (i might be wrong).
So, i'm trying to understand, besides memory, it looks like more or less exactly the same as a G1, so, what would it make it run the 2.1 rom just fine?
Well, as far as i can see, whats really made the difference is the OCed kernels. before them, 2.1 was not that smooth on the hero, now its really usable, and completely stable (I use VillainRom 6.2) though its not officialy released yet, and i expect it will get even faster when we do eventually get an update. In fact, i would say 2.1 with OC is much faster than 1.5 ever was, the improvement is clear in games and emulators.
The hero is a nice phone, and im happy with mine, but if i was buying now I would get a desire. On contract in the UK, they cost practicly the same as im still paying for my hero.
I have a Motorola Milestone and am intersted in an HD2. A few people around my area are selling them that run android but I want to know if android is running smoothly and is stable on this device. Is it ok for everyday use without messing around with it very much?
It would be to replace my milestone, which is an android device, so I'm wondering if the HD2 runs as smoothly as an actual android device
Thanks!
With NAND recently released for the HD2, I'd say very stable.
If I were you though, I'd rather buy a stock HD2 rather than an "android ready" HD2 just because of personal preference of builds. Buy a HD2, read the forums and look for a build that'll suit you. For me, iamgpc's gingerbread rom is good enough for me and I'm waiting for a official release of WP7
Well I could still just search around and do a wipe and flash of a build that I like right? (even if its android loaded)
bazinga said:
I'm waiting for a official release of WP7
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WP& Rom is ALREADY offically released. Its simply that it hasnt been directly released on XDA for various reasons.
Just because it hasnt been posted by cotulla doesnt mean it hasnt "officially" been released.
Wond3r said:
Well I could still just search around and do a wipe and flash of a build that I like right? (even if its android loaded)
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Android works Great on the HD2 If you can get one cheep (under $200) get it and yes you can change android any time + if the HD2 already has Android it most likely has already had HSPL 2.08 and the Radio updated so thats less for you to have to learn how to do
Hi :-D
I have a motorola milestone (and develop for it ) and now a brand new HD2, and must say, WM lasted for about 35 seconds LOL
Now I have NAND desreHD build, and (without overclock but with memory optimization and tweaks) is butterly smooth!
Like and maybe more than Milestone...
With a senseless rom is far superior to a milestone (stockspeed) and like same smoothnes with [email protected] with MUCH more memory
As the others said, it is very stable now with NAND, and apparently now you can dual boot WP7 and Android off you SD cards. There are just plain SO MANY OPTIONS on this phone, so you will make a good move going. Plus you can hop back and forth to sense/non-sense with relative ease, especially with clockwork...
I bought my HD2 when launched. I now have NAND Android on it. I'm happy with it... BUT
If you want to buy and HD2 to put Android... why don't you buy a Desire HD instead? I was not able to compare both of them but I imagine that if hardware and OS are developped to go together it has to be better (faster boot, all working, stability) and after a while you will find custom Android ROM for it (maybe yet available).
If I have to buy something today, between HD2, HD7 and DHD... I will go for DHD. The hardware seems the best (8Mp camera, newer proc, more NAND).
Of course, all this depend at what price you'll find each device.
personally i will choose the HD2 because you can run android on it..HD2..HD7..evo there are the same phones..just one has a 8MP camera and a front camera but that is about it..I used to own a touch pro 2 unlocked version and I barely used the front camera..it was useless for me. So HD2 FTW.
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DHD has a front camera? I didn't even know this...
I just read that the DHD boot in 2sec; Is this real? If it is it could be very nice for me, I would like to know also if the A-GPS is working fine (I'm mean that data is written in the chip itself same as WM6 does on HD2).
But anyway, all this is subjective. I had a HD2 and I'm very happy with it. It's a really good device.
And second anyway... all this was not the initial subject... sorry for thread pollution
Yes, Android is stable on HD2 and it can be the main OS.